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Legod Third Coming

Legod Third Coming

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It still is.

 

There is not a team who can boast as good a first 11 as ours. Ask any fan of any other club in this division.

 

No-one else has a million pound forward or centre back. Puncheon was MK Dons best player. Harding is easily the best left back in the league. Richardson (when fit) is the best right back in the league.

 

Lallana is the best creative player in the league. Barnard was the second top scorer last season. Davis was asked to join West Ham - twice. Few teams have a French U21 midfielder with as much class and quality.

 

Just thought people needed to remember that.

 

Why are we losing? Oh, there are these things called managers... you might have heard of them. Once they organise, motivate, inspire and introduce a formation and tactics, things tend to get a lot better....

 

(PS: For the hard of thinking, none of the above is sarcastic. I have just had a lumpy bet on us to win the league at 4/1, it's finally a sensible price).

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It still is.

 

There is not a team who can boast as good a first 11 as ours. Ask any fan of any other club in this division.

 

No-one else has a million pound forward or centre back. Puncheon was MK Dons best player. Harding is easily the best left back in the league. Richardson (when fit) is the best right back in the league.

 

Lallana is the best creative player in the league. Barnard was the second top scorer last season. Davis was asked to join West Ham - twice. Few teams have a French U21 midfielder with as much class and quality.

 

Just thought people needed to remember that.

 

Why are we losing? Oh, there are these things called managers... you might have heard of them. Once they organise, motivate, inspire and introduce a formation and tactics, things tend to get a lot better....

 

(PS: For the hard of thinking, none of the above is sarcastic. I have just had a lumpy bet on us to win the league at 4/1, it's finally a sensible price).

 

Fine, but where's the competition for places?

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It is amongst the best squads ..... on paper. But it could benefit from a loan with pace and a loanee striker to back up Ricky. Key as LTC writes is the fact that it needs an able Manager.

 

It is clear that Adkins wants to be signed up today and the Sc***thorpe Chairman will be under significant pressure to do a deal as this is unsettling his own side.

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It still is.

 

There is not a team who can boast as good a first 11 as ours...........

Really????? What about the 21 teams above us in the table?

 

Yesterday, we even managed to lose to a team below us. Other teams score, we can't. Other teams can keep a clean sheet, we can't..........

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Really????? What about the 21 teams above us in the table?

 

Yesterday, we even managed to lose to a team below us. Other teams score, we can't. Other teams can keep a clean sheet, we can't..........

 

It's quite simple really, as LTC stated, we need a MANAGER. Unless you have forgotten the fundamental needs for football then I would've thought you could've figured that one out without the need of reading the OP or my reply.

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Anyone who thinks Harding is "easily the best left back in the league" either had too much last night, or thinks we play in the Wessex League.

 

Exactly! I have never been able to understand what people see in him! Personally I think he is an average League One p

Left-back, at best. He is forever losing his man, always being caught out of position, passing is terrible and he thinks he is David Beckham in 1998 with his floppy hair. He had had a couple of good games I admit, and I also like how he gets forward and overlaps with Lallana down the left flank, but seriously... That does not make him the best left-back in the division.

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Best Squad/first 11? Yes, undoubtedly.

 

Best TEAM? Not by a very long shot.

 

Technically, the team is short of pace (you cannot rely on a 16 year old kid performing 110% EVERY week) and with only one "flyer" it is easy for teams to negate him.

Yes it has creativity in the missing Lallana and to an extent the potential of Puncheon (if only his decision making was better)

 

BUT, it is not a TEAM, it is 11 technically able footballers.

 

TEAMs are created by a good manager, but they also rely on a bond between the players. For a simplistic example rewatch England in the (actually ANY) World Cup and compare to Germany.

 

It is not TOTALLY a manger thing, the manager establishes the environment for the team and allows not such good players to be better than the sum of their parts. (Example - see Bournemouth last season and the start of this)

 

Could the TEAM have been unsettled by something? Or is it simply the Manager (lack of) not getting them to that level?

 

Is it something simple such as Guly being brought in instead of an Antonio/Papa clone? Or is it something different?

 

Is it something simple where a new player earns more than an establisehed player causing resentment?

 

Those who say they are professionals and it should not bother them have never understood the psychology of Team building, again as an example look at the Terry / Bridge incident. Both professionals, both should have seen the need for the greater good, Bridge walked out on the Team.

 

The Manager plays a critical role in fostering, nurturing, mentoring and coaching, but the TEAM spirit, the togetherness, the almost psychic understanding between players comes from within. A good manager knows how to do that. But if something happens to knock that spirit it is VERY difficult to get it back without changes to the players, management or environment...

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It still is.

 

There is not a team who can boast as good a first 11 as ours. Ask any fan of any other club in this division.

 

No-one else has a million pound forward or centre back. Puncheon was MK Dons best player. Harding is easily the best left back in the league. Richardson (when fit) is the best right back in the league.

 

Lallana is the best creative player in the league. Barnard was the second top scorer last season. Davis was asked to join West Ham - twice. Few teams have a French U21 midfielder with as much class and quality.

 

Just thought people needed to remember that.

 

Why are we losing? Oh, there are these things called managers... you might have heard of them. Once they organise, motivate, inspire and introduce a formation and tactics, things tend to get a lot better....

 

(PS: For the hard of thinking, none of the above is sarcastic. I have just had a lumpy bet on us to win the league at 4/1, it's finally a sensible price).

 

I bet Swindon & Rochdale ****e themselves b4 playing us then !!!

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There are two critical words to consider here...."on form" we certainly have the best TEAM, but we do not have the best squad on form or otherwise!

 

Keeper - arguably the best two!

LB - two good L1 players, any higher, not sure

CB- Fonte too good for L1! Jaidi excellent back up now.

Martin is getting better and better but there are better in the league. seaborne, no thanks!!

RB - Richardson best in league last year, Butterfield from the Chsmpionship,

 

Overall the defence is far better than last year

 

CM - Morgan is good and developing but no where near form

Hammond is best used as back up.

Wotton, fourth choice maybe

Guly, too early to know yet. Unfair to judge as not had a real chance in his best position

LM - Adam, obviously no one better!

Holmes,when fit can be useful

Mills, Dickson, ok for back up

RM - Puncheon, creative, like his attitude but is not getting enough results for hid effort

Ox-Ch. Exciting prospect but should not be relied on for 40 games

 

overall I think we are worse off than last year without thenoptiins of Papa and Antonio out right and I think we need a very commanding centre midfielder

 

Strikers - lambert, IS the best on form, isn't on form! Barnard really good for this league will likely only be 3rd or 4th choice higher up. Connolly is class but needs to feed off Lambert and out-swinging crosses

 

Overall we lack a striker as highlighted yesterday, when one us out we have NO option on the bench. ( I know Doble was there but he's not a real option yet is he!!)

 

to sum up we have a great team "on form" for this league but I think we need to sign on loan ( and then permanantly in Jan) a Centre Midfielder in the mould of Savage, Barton etc, and a tall quick striker. We also need a right footed right winger!!

 

Then we will have the best squad!!

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It's very true we have the best team and when I return from the holiday I will put £50 on us to win this league.

 

We need tweaking which starts with a manager that has a system he wants the players to work on and then we need options from the bench for plan B.

 

I still think we will **** this league.

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Best squad in the league - you are having a laugh.

Best 1st XI, when on form and fully fit, definitely. A squad consists more than 11 first choice players, need 20 players able to come in and do a job, change things round, cover for injuries, loss of form, suspensions. We don't have that. With AL injured and LB suspended our bench is **** poor. I still think we have a better 1st XI than last season, but thats not the point, we need back up, after all Waigo and Antonio were never regular starters.

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Legod Third Coming

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Best Squad/first 11? Yes, undoubtedly.

 

Best TEAM? Not by a very long shot.

 

Technically, the team is short of pace (you cannot rely on a 16 year old kid performing 110% EVERY week) and with only one "flyer" it is easy for teams to negate him.

Yes it has creativity in the missing Lallana and to an extent the potential of Puncheon (if only his decision making was better)

 

BUT, it is not a TEAM, it is 11 technically able footballers.

 

TEAMs are created by a good manager, but they also rely on a bond between the players. For a simplistic example rewatch England in the (actually ANY) World Cup and compare to Germany.

 

It is not TOTALLY a manger thing, the manager establishes the environment for the team and allows not such good players to be better than the sum of their parts. (Example - see Bournemouth last season and the start of this)

 

Could the TEAM have been unsettled by something? Or is it simply the Manager (lack of) not getting them to that level?

 

Is it something simple such as Guly being brought in instead of an Antonio/Papa clone? Or is it something different?

 

Is it something simple where a new player earns more than an establisehed player causing resentment?

 

Those who say they are professionals and it should not bother them have never understood the psychology of Team building, again as an example look at the Terry / Bridge incident. Both professionals, both should have seen the need for the greater good, Bridge walked out on the Team.

 

The Manager plays a critical role in fostering, nurturing, mentoring and coaching, but the TEAM spirit, the togetherness, the almost psychic understanding between players comes from within. A good manager knows how to do that. But if something happens to knock that spirit it is VERY difficult to get it back without changes to the players, management or environment...

 

You do not 'need' pace in my view (although it helps). It depends what formation you want to play and how.

 

Not every team at the top of every league has pace - not in Walcott or Antonio terms anyway. Pace like that is very, very rare.

 

QPR have little pace and yet they are cruising the Championship.

 

We lack Antonio as an outlet for sure - why? Because we are not controlling the ball well enough, using it intelligently enough in the final third and using the width of the pitch. Our full backs are not getting forward and to play 4-4-2 with the players we have lacks imagination.

 

We have the best hold-up forward in the league, is anyone passing it to him?

 

We have some of the best crossers of a ball in the league. Are they hitting it to anyone in space, out wide who can stretch the opposition?

 

And as for a 'squad' requirement, does anyone genuinely think there is a club in this league with MORE strength in depth than us?

If anyone thinks this, they should get out a bit more...

 

I agree Phil, we need a manager simply because all our players lack is some direction, some confidence and some belief.

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Putting everything else aside, I'd rather have had the 11/4 at the start of the season off a level start than 4/1 giving a team like Peterborough what could be an 8 point start, but will certainly be at least 5 points

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Legod Third Coming

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Putting everything else aside, I'd rather have had the 11/4 at the start of the season off a level start than 4/1 giving a team like Peterborough what could be an 8 point start, but will certainly be at least 5 points

 

Really and truly with over 120 points to play for, I'm not losing sleep over an 8 point gap just yet... ;)

 

I'd like to know the depth of Peterborough's squad!

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Really and truly with over 120 points to play for, I'm not losing sleep over an 8 point gap just yet... ;)

 

I'd like to know the depth of Peterborough's squad!

 

Last time out in L1, the same two strikers as they have now bagged 20+ goals apiece. They're available at 7/1 right now. They've got to stay fit but then any bet is a bet on that team's best players staying fit.

 

I'm just talking with my punter's head on; my heart says I hope you win a fortune...

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We got relegated with Crouch, Phllips, Beattie, Pahars, Camara, Claus, Niemi and so on. Good players or not, poor form and lack of management can be very dangerous in any league.

 

We have an excellent squad, but this season we're a pathetic team. It doesn't need signings, it's needs a leader and motivation. No-one is on form. Just hope Adkins can get them going quickly. We're lucky that no-one looks likely to run away with the league.

 

We're so bad, we spanked Britsol Rovers 4-0 away.

 

That's the difference. Wafer thin margins.

 

A good manager and we have the potential to kill this league stone dead.

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We got relegated with Crouch, Phllips, Beattie, Pahars, Camara, Claus, Niemi and so on. Good players or not, poor form and lack of management can be very dangerous in any league.

 

We have an excellent squad, but this season we're a pathetic team. It doesn't need signings, it's needs a leader and motivation. No-one is on form. Just hope Adkins can get them going quickly. We're lucky that no-one looks likely to run away with the league.

 

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It still is.

 

There is not a team who can boast as good a first 11 as ours. Ask any fan of any other club in this division.

 

No-one else has a million pound forward or centre back. Puncheon was MK Dons best player. Harding is easily the best left back in the league. Richardson (when fit) is the best right back in the league.

 

Lallana is the best creative player in the league. Barnard was the second top scorer last season. Davis was asked to join West Ham - twice. Few teams have a French U21 midfielder with as much class and quality.

 

Just thought people needed to remember that.

 

Why are we losing? Oh, there are these things called managers... you might have heard of them. Once they organise, motivate, inspire and introduce a formation and tactics, things tend to get a lot better....

 

(PS: For the hard of thinking, none of the above is sarcastic. I have just had a lumpy bet on us to win the league at 4/1, it's finally a sensible price).

 

You have a very strong squad no doubt, but I still disagree. IMO you are not the strongest. You are definitely in a false position though and I expect you to take off soon. ;) Hopefully after you've lost at Hillsborough.

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You have a very strong squad no doubt, but I still disagree. IMO you are not the strongest. You are definitely in a false position though and I expect you to take off soon. ;) Hopefully after you've lost at Hillsborough.

 

How's Otsemobor doing for you guys?

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George Boyd of Peterbrough is better than Lambert and anyone else in this division

 

Totally different players. It's close between Boyd and Lallana.

 

As far as front 3's go, there's not much between Boyd, CMS and McLean and Lallana, Lambert and Barnard - and we have Puncheon, who is certainly better than any of Posh's options on the right, imo.

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How's Otsemobor doing for you guys?

 

Sitting on the bench mostly. He has looked pretty poor from what we've seen of him so far. Buxton is one of our weaker players and he's still keeping him out of the team.

 

Who is?

 

Personally I think our squad is better but I'm bound to say that.

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you dont need the best squad to go up...millwall did not, swindon did very well and certainly did not

 

look at oldham and carlise so far this season......player for player, I would like to think we beat them in nearly every position

 

Agreed, but it's like good coffee - the right blend for the best result.

 

Which reminds me - luncheon i think.

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There are two critical words to consider here...."on form" we certainly have the best TEAM, but we do not have the best squad on form or otherwise!

 

Keeper - arguably the best two!

LB - two good L1 players, any higher, not sure

CB- Fonte too good for L1! Jaidi excellent back up now.

Martin is getting better and better but there are better in the league. seaborne, no thanks!!

RB - Richardson best in league last year, Butterfield from the Chsmpionship,

 

Overall the defence is far better than last year

 

CM - Morgan is good and developing but no where near form

Hammond is best used as back up.

Wotton, fourth choice maybe

Guly, too early to know yet. Unfair to judge as not had a real chance in his best position

LM - Adam, obviously no one better!

Holmes,when fit can be useful

Mills, Dickson, ok for back up

RM - Puncheon, creative, like his attitude but is not getting enough results for hid effort

Ox-Ch. Exciting prospect but should not be relied on for 40 games

 

overall I think we are worse off than last year without thenoptiins of Papa and Antonio out right and I think we need a very commanding centre midfielder

 

Strikers - lambert, IS the best on form, isn't on form! Barnard really good for this league will likely only be 3rd or 4th choice higher up. Connolly is class but needs to feed off Lambert and out-swinging crosses

 

Overall we lack a striker as highlighted yesterday, when one us out we have NO option on the bench. ( I know Doble was there but he's not a real option yet is he!!)

 

to sum up we have a great team "on form" for this league but I think we need to sign on loan ( and then permanantly in Jan) a Centre Midfielder in the mould of Savage, Barton etc, and a tall quick striker. We also need a right footed right winger!!

 

Then we will have the best squad!!

 

A sound assessment me thinks.. so +1

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