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I'm not suggesting anyone else does this, but I have severe misgivings about the Pardew sacking. I believe we would have a better record over the 4 games since than we have had, for sure.

 

So, with this in mind, I will not be present at any games, will not purchase any merchandise and will cut down my use of anything Saints until I receive a satisfactory explanation as to Pardew sacking. And I don't mean the classic 'he had to go', I want a fully ratified reason. Until then there will only be 1 scapegoat for what could be a dire season and that will be Nicola. Mr Cortese it is your prerogative to ensure this doesn't happen. The onus is on you unless you want to be villified by a large section of our fanbase.

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I think you will be alone on this one, and you will never ever get a explanation as there are gagging orders and NDA's all over the shop.

 

What happened, happened. Time to forget it, move on and support NA. He's a good manager and he needs our support now, we've got to stop living in the past. We've always done it!

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I think you will be alone on this one, and you will never ever get a explanation as there are gagging orders and NDA's all over the shop.

 

What happened, happened. Time to forget it, move on and support NA. He's a good manager and he needs our support now, we've got to stop living in the past. We've always done it!

 

In total agreement. Get behind the team and the new man and forget the past.

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I think you will be alone on this one, and you will never ever get a explanation as there are gagging orders and NDA's all over the shop.

 

What happened, happened. Time to forget it, move on and support NA. He's a good manager and he needs our support now, we've got to stop living in the past. We've always done it!

 

I certainly do support NA, I really rate him, but that is not where my issue is. What I don't understand is why NDA's were signed. From what we've heard it was to protect Pardew. But why would Cortese do that when he must have realised his judgement would be questioned with his sacking.

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I think you will find that the information you require about the pardew sacking will never be made available to you.....you will just have to accept that the sacking was justified.

 

You are free to take the action you speak of but it seems a bit extreme,just accept that this is the way it is for saints fans,it's hard work supporting the red and White and probably always will be.

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I'm not suggesting anyone else does this, but I have severe misgivings about the Pardew sacking. I believe we would have a better record over the 4 games since than we have had, for sure.

 

So, with this in mind, I will not be present at any games, will not purchase any merchandise and will cut down my use of anything Saints until I receive a satisfactory explanation as to Pardew sacking. And I don't mean the classic 'he had to go', I want a fully ratified reason. Until then there will only be 1 scapegoat for what could be a dire season and that will be Nicola. Mr Cortese it is your prerogative to ensure this doesn't happen. The onus is on you unless you want to be villified by a large section of our fanbase.

 

You're not on your own on this one. The whole thing has really annoyed me too. I'm not sure about the Adkins appoinment at all. For some reason it reminds me of the Paul Sturrock appointment. I hope I'm proved wrong, but I think it's going to be a very long season :(

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It's easy to blame the chairman or the manager (past or present) but most people are letting those passionless ****s on the pitch off the hook. They've got no pride in playing for us and all they care about is their pay cheque. They are supposed to be professionals footballers.

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I'm not suggesting anyone else does this, but I have severe misgivings about the Pardew sacking. I believe we would have a better record over the 4 games since than we have had, for sure.

 

So, with this in mind, I will not be present at any games, will not purchase any merchandise and will cut down my use of anything Saints until I receive a satisfactory explanation as to Pardew sacking. And I don't mean the classic 'he had to go', I want a fully ratified reason. Until then there will only be 1 scapegoat for what could be a dire season and that will be Nicola. Mr Cortese it is your prerogative to ensure this doesn't happen. The onus is on you unless you want to be villified by a large section of our fanbase.

 

will you boycott this site?

 

I suggest you will never get an explanation.

 

I think everyone will agree it is unlikely we would have lost 4 games if Pardew was still here.

 

If Adknis turns things around things will soon be forgotten.

 

Move on.

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I'm not suggesting anyone else does this, but I have severe misgivings about the Pardew sacking. I believe we would have a better record over the 4 games since than we have had, for sure.

 

So, with this in mind, I will not be present at any games, will not purchase any merchandise and will cut down my use of anything Saints until I receive a satisfactory explanation as to Pardew sacking. And I don't mean the classic 'he had to go', I want a fully ratified reason. Until then there will only be 1 scapegoat for what could be a dire season and that will be Nicola. Mr Cortese it is your prerogative to ensure this doesn't happen. The onus is on you unless you want to be villified by a large section of our fanbase.[/quote

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I'm not suggesting anyone else does this, but I have severe misgivings about the Pardew sacking. I believe we would have a better record over the 4 games since than we have had, for sure.

 

So, with this in mind, I will not be present at any games, will not purchase any merchandise and will cut down my use of anything Saints until I receive a satisfactory explanation as to Pardew sacking. And I don't mean the classic 'he had to go', I want a fully ratified reason. Until then there will only be 1 scapegoat for what could be a dire season and that will be Nicola. Mr Cortese it is your prerogative to ensure this doesn't happen. The onus is on you unless you want to be villified by a large section of our fanbase.[/quote

 

Good bye then, hope you find something nice to do with your free time

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To the OP and any others agreeing (can't be arsed to read such tripe!)

 

Good, f**k off and don't come back - EVER

 

YOU WON'T BE MISSED.

 

Now infract me and ban me forever. This place is full of sad, unrealistic morons who just have no idea.

 

What a t w a t you are Dibden!

 

Quite a strong reaction to what I thought was quite a reasoned, if not slightly controversial post.

 

But it's alright love, I've reported it as you requested. Big kisses.

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I'm not suggesting anyone else does this, but I have severe misgivings about the Pardew sacking. I believe we would have a better record over the 4 games since than we have had, for sure.

 

So, with this in mind, I will not be present at any games, will not purchase any merchandise and will cut down my use of anything Saints until I receive a satisfactory explanation as to Pardew sacking. And I don't mean the classic 'he had to go', I want a fully ratified reason. Until then there will only be 1 scapegoat for what could be a dire season and that will be Nicola. Mr Cortese it is your prerogative to ensure this doesn't happen. The onus is on you unless you want to be villified by a large section of our fanbase.

 

I'd hate to be on trial with you as the foreman of the jury. Even though you have not one shred of evidence as to the reasons for Pardew's departure, you don't allow for one second that there might have been very good reasons for Cortese's actions. The only scapegoat here is you, prepared to take Pardew's side without knowing why. It isn't a very intelligent position to adopt, is it? As has been mentioned, there is no way that you are going to get an explanation from Cortese, or indeed Pardew beyond the OS announcement. With a little bit of sober thought, surely you would realise that if Pardew was as keen to throw his toys out of the pram as you, he would have been moaning to all and sundry at how unfairly he had been treated. Have you heard anything from him?

 

Even the alleged premise for your boycott, that Pardew would have achieved better results than have been attained since his departure is not beyond challenge. Presumably you think that Lambert is only off colour because Pardew wasn't there, that Barnard would have been firing on all cylinders and Lallana knocking them in for fun. Or that an entirely different team would have been playing in a completely different way under Pardew.

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I certainly do support NA, I really rate him, but that is not where my issue is. What I don't understand is why NDA's were signed. From what we've heard it was to protect Pardew. But why would Cortese do that when he must have realised his judgement would be questioned with his sacking.

 

NDA were signed by both of them. Pardew didn't have to sign, did he? It takes two to tango. Go away and think about it a bit more, as it rather looks as if this thread is a reaction to the loss of another game rather than some righteous indignation about a miscarriage of justice. Is Cortese worried about the reaction of a few like you? I don't think so.

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I think you will find that the information you require about the pardew sacking will never be made available to you.....you will just have to accept that the sacking was justified.

 

You are free to take the action you speak of but it seems a bit extreme,just accept that this is the way it is for saints fans,it's hard work supporting the red and White and probably always will be.

 

Have to say I agree fully. As supporters (mushrooms) our job is to support, come what may. OP, I think yours is wishful thinking re NC giving us details.

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Frankly I am embarrassed to call myself a Saints fan, so I'm going to take a step back until I have a reason for this embarrassment.

 

Frankly you are not a loyal supporter then are you? I have supported Saints since the late 60's and no matter what happens I go to watch my team play because I SUPPORT Southampton FC. Not the chairman, not the board, not the office staff but the team that plays for my home city. When will people realise that we have no influence on the owners, even when it was PLC shareholders had very little say and no power. We will never know why Pardew was sacked, get over it and move on.

 

Get behind the new manager and the players, that is what true supporters will do

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Can't say I'm best chuffed at losing games and not scoring goals, can't imagine anyone is.

 

I also can't imagine what it would take to stop me supporting Southampton Football Club. Probably death, nothing less

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NDA were signed by both of them. Pardew didn't have to sign, did he? It takes two to tango. Go away and think about it a bit more, as it rather looks as if this thread is a reaction to the loss of another game rather than some righteous indignation about a miscarriage of justice. Is Cortese worried about the reaction of a few like you? I don't think so.

 

I've sent you a PM to explain why I support the side of Pardew.

 

In response to the rest, maybe I'm not as good a fan as the rest of you, but that still doesn't help to explain a decision that, until I receive a reason for, has really soured my experience of supporting Saints.

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NDA were signed by both of them. Pardew didn't have to sign, did he? It takes two to tango. Go away and think about it a bit more, as it rather looks as if this thread is a reaction to the loss of another game rather than some righteous indignation about a miscarriage of justice. Is Cortese worried about the reaction of a few like you? I don't think so.

 

An NDA is always between two parties. Without two parties signing it it is invalid. Pardew would I am sure had his contract paid in full on condition of its signature. What erks me is the fact it was three members of staff sacked and not just Pardew. If there was a non football related misdeamenour by Pardew then this would make some sense if HE was fired... but all three. !!!. It would be my assumption that all three were paid off, all on NDA's. As to the real reason why we will never know.

 

I think Adkins appears a decent man but after watching last night he has a lot to do and little time to do it in.

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I'm not suggesting anyone else does this, but I have severe misgivings about the Pardew sacking. I believe we would have a better record over the 4 games since than we have had, for sure.

 

So, with this in mind, I will not be present at any games, will not purchase any merchandise and will cut down my use of anything Saints until I receive a satisfactory explanation as to Pardew sacking. And I don't mean the classic 'he had to go', I want a fully ratified reason. Until then there will only be 1 scapegoat for what could be a dire season and that will be Nicola. Mr Cortese it is your prerogative to ensure this doesn't happen. The onus is on you unless you want to be villified by a large section of our fanbase.

 

Do grow up FFS. You are not going to get an explanation due to the terms of the Compromise Agreement.

 

Attention-seeking bell-end.

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I've sent you a PM to explain why I support the side of Pardew.

 

In response to the rest, maybe I'm not as good a fan as the rest of you, but that still doesn't help to explain a decision that, until I receive a reason for, has really soured my experience of supporting Saints.

 

Apart from the fact that the club, as Pardew's former employers is legally prohibited from disclosing information about his sacking, 1. why do you think you are entitled to know? 2. Do you really think most employee / employer parting of the ways is down to one single easily identifiable and explained reason?

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I think its pretty dreadful to try to get others to boycott. The club needs all the support and unification it can get at the moment, not uprising amongst fans. I don't think many clubs idolise the chairman, but it shouldn't stop our support once the players cross the line. If you can't be arsed or don't want to go fair enough, but please don't try to start protests.

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I'm not suggesting anyone else does this, but I have severe misgivings about the Pardew sacking. I believe we would have a better record over the 4 games since than we have had, for sure.

 

So, with this in mind, I will not be present at any games, will not purchase any merchandise and will cut down my use of anything Saints until I receive a satisfactory explanation as to Pardew sacking. And I don't mean the classic 'he had to go', I want a fully ratified reason. Until then there will only be 1 scapegoat for what could be a dire season and that will be Nicola. Mr Cortese it is your prerogative to ensure this doesn't happen. The onus is on you unless you want to be villified by a large section of our fanbase.

 

If (when) Pardew cashes in and gets a ghostwriter to turf out an autobiography you might get some idea of what happend, albeit a sanitised Pardew-friendly version of events. Cortese is too professional to provide you with an explanation. Anyone who leaks anything will no doubt be sued. The local press won't want to take the risk; the national rags won't waste the time on this league. DP, you could well be boycotting for 20 years.

 

Had you conducted your boycott offline I might have overlooked it if you broke you self-imposed boycott without achieving your objective. As you have tried to encourage others to jump on this ridiculous crusade, I think you should be branded a hypocrite if you spend any further money on Saints without getting your "satisfactory explaination".

 

As a fellow ex-DP resident, I wish you had a different username.

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I think its pretty dreadful to try to get others to boycott. The club needs all the support and unification it can get at the moment, not uprising amongst fans. I don't think many clubs idolise the chairman, but it shouldn't stop our support once the players cross the line. If you can't be arsed or don't want to go fair enough, but please don't try to start protests.

 

In all fairness to the OP he did say he is not suggesting other people do it.

 

OP, if you don't want to go to games that's fine, but STFU!!!! It's pathetic that you can't let the reasons for the sacking drop, we have a new manager now and he needs our support now.

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I'm not suggesting anyone else does this, but I have severe misgivings about the Pardew sacking. I believe we would have a better record over the 4 games since than we have had, for sure.

 

So, with this in mind, I will not be present at any games, will not purchase any merchandise and will cut down my use of anything Saints until I receive a satisfactory explanation as to Pardew sacking. And I don't mean the classic 'he had to go', I want a fully ratified reason. Until then there will only be 1 scapegoat for what could be a dire season and that will be Nicola. Mr Cortese it is your prerogative to ensure this doesn't happen. The onus is on you unless you want to be villified by a large section of our fanbase.

 

To me this is a laughably naive knee jerk reaction to another defeat. You must know (if you have given what you wrote more than a second's thought) that there is no way that we the fans will ever get an official explanation of AP's dismissal. There will be rumours - we've had loads already, and we can be pretty sure that he didn't go for footballing reasons, but there will never be further official explanation.

 

Go ahead with your boycott, you'll miss Saints more than they miss you.

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I think its pretty dreadful to try to get others to boycott. The club needs all the support and unification it can get at the moment, not uprising amongst fans. I don't think many clubs idolise the chairman, but it shouldn't stop our support once the players cross the line. If you can't be arsed or don't want to go fair enough, but please don't try to start protests.

 

I NEVER said, nor implied that anyone else should do this. In fact, I explicitly said that I don't want people too.

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lol you pathetic mong!

 

We've had one game under new manager. Anyone would think we are Man UTD with our fans expectations.

 

This has nothing to do with the new Manager, who I quite rate. This has to do with me being unsatisfied with the reason for living the old one and destabilizing us at this time of the season.

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if (when) pardew cashes in and gets a ghostwriter to turf out an autobiography you might get some idea of what happend, albeit a sanitised pardew-friendly version of events. Cortese is too professional to provide you with an explanation. Anyone who leaks anything will no doubt be sued. The local press won't want to take the risk; the national rags won't waste the time on this league. Dp, you could well be boycotting for 20 years.

 

Had you conducted your boycott offline i might have overlooked it if you broke you self-imposed boycott without achieving your objective. As you have tried to encourage others to jump on this ridiculous crusade, i think you should be branded a hypocrite if you spend any further money on saints without getting your "satisfactory explaination".

 

As a fellow ex-dp resident, i wish you had a different username.

 

i am not trying to get others to boycott. All you have to do is read the first line to realise that.

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To me this is a laughably naive knee jerk reaction to another defeat. You must know (if you have given what you wrote more than a second's thought) that there is no way that we the fans will ever get an official explanation of AP's dismissal. There will be rumours - we've had loads already, and we can be pretty sure that he didn't go for footballing reasons, but there will never be further official explanation.

 

Go ahead with your boycott, you'll miss Saints more than they miss you.

 

This is not knee jerk, its something I have been thinking about since Pardews sacking. I know I won't get an explanation. At least I now know what the Lowe boycotters felt like (I was one of their biggest criticisers).

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i am not trying to get others to boycott. All you have to do is read the first line to realise that.

 

I'm unhappy with TescoExxonCorp, they didn't tell me the full reason why their last CEO resigned. As such I'm going to boycott them until they tell me exactly what happened in the board meeting. Until they do so I'm going to come on a website full of followers of TescoExxonCorp, and discreetly inform them all of my decision to boycott, which is not in any way an attempt by me to rally support, or encourage others, err.. honest guv. Nope, I'm merely shouting 'look at me' loudly, with absolutely no intention of hoping to encourage others. Of course, I could have kept my boycott quiet, but that simply wouldn't have had the same desired effect, which is, err, um... what was my intention again? Perhaps I shouldn't have started the thread?

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I'd hate to be on trial with you as the foreman of the jury. Even though you have not one shred of evidence as to the reasons for Pardew's departure, you don't allow for one second that there might have been very good reasons for Cortese's actions. The only scapegoat here is you, prepared to take Pardew's side without knowing why. It isn't a very intelligent position to adopt, is it? As has been mentioned, there is no way that you are going to get an explanation from Cortese, or indeed Pardew beyond the OS announcement. With a little bit of sober thought, surely you would realise that if Pardew was as keen to throw his toys out of the pram as you, he would have been moaning to all and sundry at how unfairly he had been treated. Have you heard anything from him?

 

Even the alleged premise for your boycott, that Pardew would have achieved better results than have been attained since his departure is not beyond challenge. Presumably you think that Lambert is only off colour because Pardew wasn't there, that Barnard would have been firing on all cylinders and Lallana knocking them in for fun. Or that an entirely different team would have been playing in a completely different way under Pardew.

 

Agree Wes, the silence from Pardew is deafening... but so is it from Cortese. The more I hear the more I believe he was right but he has to say something if not to just clear his name. The fact that we've heard jack from Pardew tells me the rumours are right (from Saints AND Hammers fans..)

 

I won't be boycotting, I'll be there on Saturday as for me, I think my mum would want me to. Nothing will be gained from staying away from St Marys...

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Agree Wes, the silence from Pardew is deafening... but so is it from Cortese. The more I hear the more I believe he was right but he has to say something if not to just clear his name. The fact that we've heard jack from Pardew tells me the rumours are right (from Saints AND Hammers fans..)

 

But the Club stated that he and the other 2 had to go to improve co-operation between the First Team and Less Reed's empire.

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I can't agree with the OP at all and I do think that sort of attention seeking self serving rant is pathetic.

 

But if that's your true feelings St Marys will be a better place without you.

 

As for Pardew, I do think that we may have got one or two more points but at the time of his dismissal he had failed me in terms of his squad.

 

He did improve the defence, well the full backs at least. However he completely failed to improve on the attacking options we have. About 3-4 weeks beforehand I remember a thread where Alpine amongst others were very critical of this lack of activity and at the time I remarked that as ling as Pardew added 2-3 attacking options by close of the window then I would be happy.

 

Although he did not get the last two days there are no signs that anything would have changed. As such we would be in exactly the same position with no striker on the bench (when one is out) no width in our play, a lack of pace particularly out right and up front, as well as another option to Morgan and Hammond in midfield who are not good enough.

 

I think it is very probable that the last 4 results still would have happened with Pardew in charge and he would now be gone for football reasons....

 

In hindsight he seemed to have got quite complacent and full of excuses.

 

Adkins will bring in a new energy, enthusiasm, coaching ethos, fresh ideas and (hopefully!!) two or three loanees.

 

My gripe with Cortese (now) is that he didn't get rid of Pardew earlier!!!

 

Boycott all you want you will miss out.

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I'm unhappy with TescoExxonCorp, they didn't tell me the full reason why their last CEO resigned. As such I'm going to boycott them until they tell me exactly what happened in the board meeting. Until they do so I'm going to come on a website full of followers of TescoExxonCorp, and discreetly inform them all of my decision to boycott, which is not in any way an attempt by me to rally support, or encourage others, err.. honest guv. Nope, I'm merely shouting 'look at me' loudly, with absolutely no intention of hoping to encourage others. Of course, I could have kept my boycott quiet, but that simply wouldn't have had the same desired effect, which is, err, um... what was my intention again? Perhaps I shouldn't have started the thread?

 

Excellent post!!

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I can't agree with the OP at all and I do think that sort of attention seeking self serving rant is pathetic.

 

But if that's your true feelings St Marys will be a better place without you.

 

As for Pardew, I do think that we may have got one or two more points but at the time of his dismissal he had failed me in terms of his squad.

 

He did improve the defence, well the full backs at least. However he completely failed to improve on the attacking options we have. About 3-4 weeks beforehand I remember a thread where Alpine amongst others were very critical of this lack of activity and at the time I remarked that as ling as Pardew added 2-3 attacking options by close of the window then I would be happy.

 

Although he did not get the last two days there are no signs that anything would have changed. As such we would be in exactly the same position with no striker on the bench (when one is out) no width in our play, a lack of pace particularly out right and up front, as well as another option to Morgan and Hammond in midfield who are not good enough.

 

I think it is very probable that the last 4 results still would have happened with Pardew in charge and he would now be gone for football reasons....

In hindsight he seemed to have got quite complacent and full of excuses.

 

Adkins will bring in a new energy, enthusiasm, coaching ethos, fresh ideas and (hopefully!!) two or three loanees.

 

My gripe with Cortese (now) is that he didn't get rid of Pardew earlier!!!

 

Boycott all you want you will miss out.

 

Maybe, but the Rovers game suggests not. Maybe they would have been very c.ocky after that and the same thing happened.

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Jeeez - When will people accept that AP was sacked for NON football reasons ???

Some already have but others never will, because the club gave football performance reasons as justification for the decision and people are entitled to accept that at face value unless the club changes its story, which seems unlikely. If it is correct that it was non-football reasons then the club has lied to its supporters which would not have been a healthy thing to have done and is bound to cause resentment.

 

None of this reflects on Nigel Adkins, but neither does it ensure that he is a better candidate as manager than was Pardew. Pardew had his failings, one of which was 85th minute substitions when players could not make any difference. Adkins brought on Holmes at 90 minutes at MK, so have we improved in that respect?

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But the Club stated that he and the other 2 had to go to improve co-operation between the First Team and Less Reed's empire.

 

Then I think the club were a bit liberal with the truth. Why has Pardew said nothing? Maybe because he he can't without looking really bad?

 

I think Reed is a red herring here and the more I hear from reasonably credible people, the more I think Pardew had to go...

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