The Kraken Posted 30 October, 2010 Share Posted 30 October, 2010 A MK Dons - L (0-2) H Colchester - D (0-0) A Sheffield Wednesday - W (1-0) A Yeovil - D (1-1) H Bournemouth - W (2-0) H Tranmere - W (2-0) A Huddersfield - L (0-2) H Oldham - W (2-1) A Notts County - W (3-1) H Daggers - W (4 -0) [EDIT WITH NEW RESULTS] A total of 20 points from 10 games, 2 points per game which would equate to 92 points over a whole season. Not quite championship winning form (yet), but very impressive nonetheless. And more impressive, our form in October has seen us win 4 of our 5 games. Manager of the Month for Nige? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint Posted 30 October, 2010 Share Posted 30 October, 2010 And the loss at franchise after adkins had only had 1 or 2 training sessions with the team, hardly much he could do. Great record since that tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkadill Posted 30 October, 2010 Share Posted 30 October, 2010 Hat eating moment now as i feel Nige is a top manager. Showed tactical awerness and courage today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 30 October, 2010 Share Posted 30 October, 2010 To be fair I think we should look at it after the Daggers game when Adkins will have been in charge for 5home and 5 away games. If we win on Tuesday his record will be 20 points from ten games which is 2 per game. Over a season that would be 92 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 30 October, 2010 Share Posted 30 October, 2010 I think Adkins start has been very encouraging and is starting to justify Cortese's decision to get rid of Pardew. There's a long way to go yet but there could be quite a few people eating their words with regards to Cortese at the end of the season. Saints overall are playing better than we were doing than at the start of the season, we are starting to look like a team that will be going after Brighton at the top of the table Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted 30 October, 2010 Share Posted 30 October, 2010 We'll walk this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 30 October, 2010 Share Posted 30 October, 2010 And the loss at franchise after adkins had only had 1 or 2 training sessions with the team, hardly much he could do. Great record since that tho agree. And 8 games is a good amount to judge someone over - gives over 2 points per game and that is champion/promotion form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Posted 30 October, 2010 Share Posted 30 October, 2010 Were not the people on the match thread questioning whether NA was good enough and whether he was just a temporary appointment and, indeed, didn't one poster say he would be gone by the end of the season - FACT? NA said during the week that they would not get carried away if they won a couple of games and would not panic if they lost one - it is a long season! I wish some of you guys on here would not write them off after just ten minutes in a game or on one result at Huddersfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 30 October, 2010 Author Share Posted 30 October, 2010 Panda, its the nature of football forums, they are totally reactionary to individual results. It's why I liked NickG's threads last year of Pardew's form, it gave complete perspective to a series of results over a long period rather than individually criticising single performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 30 October, 2010 Share Posted 30 October, 2010 Panda, its the nature of football forums, they are totally reactionary to individual results. It's why I liked NickG's threads last year of Pardew's form, it gave complete perspective to a series of results over a long period rather than individually criticising single performances. This is true, coupled with the fact that some people know absolutely naff all about football as well...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 30 October, 2010 Share Posted 30 October, 2010 happy to start one if we win on Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 30 October, 2010 Share Posted 30 October, 2010 Adkins seems tactically sound. Whilst I could only follow the Twitter updates today, it sounded as if the game was physical, which meant that bringing Bignall on instead of Guly was a wise move. The future seems to be bright with Adkins, but he's only as good as the players he has at his disposal. At the moment, that's great, but keeping Lallana in January is crucial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 October, 2010 Share Posted 30 October, 2010 his record is pretty impressive so far..and seems to have made quite an instant impact... two games in a row we have come from behind to win....and one or two people claim the players are not playing for nige etc etc just did a predictor thingy and have us 2nd in 5 games time (or course I am biased lol) even if brighton wobble a bit now..they have built up a bit of a lead to give them that luxury....still, they will surely lose a few at some point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 30 October, 2010 Share Posted 30 October, 2010 I think Adkins start has been very encouraging and is starting to justify Cortese's decision to get rid of Pardew. There's a long way to go yet but there could be quite a few people eating their words with regards to Cortese at the end of the season. Saints overall are playing better than we were doing than at the start of the season, we are starting to look like a team that will be going after Brighton at the top of the table I don't know what happened to Pardew at the start of the season, I'm starting to believe Weston in that he just wanted out. I am a very big fan of Adkins, but we are still getting things wrong but at least this one knows how to put in the fix. Until we get Ricky on form, I would not guarantee an automatic spot, though favour our chances. If Ricky cannot get back to form I feel we must get in what's required to do the job, I just cannot understand what is going on there! Again I am not totally convinced pairing Morgan in midfield, but Adkins looks to have that worked out. I don't want to be too critical of Ricky because he is still a useful player even at his current form, but just look at the goals he scored last season and the impact that had for us. I can't remember if he has scored a free kick for us yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz Posted 30 October, 2010 Share Posted 30 October, 2010 NA is doing very well, looks like a great appointment and I hope the run continues. Of course, we'll have blips (who doesn't), I just hope some fans won't take the opportunity to jump on his back and lay into him like we have done in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.JonB Posted 30 October, 2010 Share Posted 30 October, 2010 Why can he not get us starting matches well? Not enough homework? Two matches in a row that we have started badly; he needs to sort this out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint In Exile Posted 30 October, 2010 Share Posted 30 October, 2010 I don't know what happened to Pardew at the start of the season, I'm starting to believe Weston in that he just wanted out. I am a very big fan of Adkins, but we are still getting things wrong but at least this one knows how to put in the fix. Until we get Ricky on form, I would not guarantee an automatic spot, though favour our chances. If Ricky cannot get back to form I feel we must get in what's required to do the job, I just cannot understand what is going on there! Again I am not totally convinced pairing Morgan in midfield, but Adkins looks to have that worked out. I don't want to be too critical of Ricky because he is still a useful player even at his current form, but just look at the goals he scored last season and the impact that had for us. I can't remember if he has scored a free kick for us yet. It's true Ricky's not at his best at the moment and yet we're still winning games, if he can get back to his form of last season and really get scoring then I reckon a few teams above us will be really worrying!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asaint4ever Posted 30 October, 2010 Share Posted 30 October, 2010 Im really starting to like the bloke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 30 October, 2010 Share Posted 30 October, 2010 Nothing to do with Adkins. Our record against Ince? Played five, won five. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 30 October, 2010 Share Posted 30 October, 2010 Ricky still remains a mystery, although he still has confidence enough to put away very good penalties. Lets hope he is saving up his goodies ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 October, 2010 Share Posted 30 October, 2010 Adkins is a good manager and i feel quite safe with him in charge, he's so motivated to do well for us and i think he's such a clever fella. Maybe his press conferences are a little too cliched though...! Listen, you can tell what he is going to say before he's said it, it's a simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Jude Posted 30 October, 2010 Share Posted 30 October, 2010 Just been looking at forms tables on footymad..on the basis of the last 6 games..we're second..1 point behind B&A....you have ton give any new manager a few games to impose his style...learn the ropes. I think it's only fair to judge NA after Christmas really...but have to say it's looking more positive again.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 31 October, 2010 Share Posted 31 October, 2010 Last 5 games - we have gained 10 points on cherries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 31 October, 2010 Share Posted 31 October, 2010 (edited) I still remain unconvinced that Adkins is the man to take us forward. Any manager worth his salt should get this squad promoted,however,we are still playing in an unconvincing manner. We beat a poor Tranmere and a 10 man Notts County side,besides that we have been poor. He may still gain us promotion,and i surely hope he does,but he will not be here this time next year. The managerial revolving door will be in operation soon, promotion this season or not. Some still see him as the 'new messiah' after a couple of results,however we are playing mediocre football with a squad capable of alot more. Prove me wrong Adkins,but thus far we are inferior to last season. I do not go in to games confident of a victory. The style of football that so many on here were convinced we would play,quick fluid passing with width and flair,when he was appointed has been non exsistant. Sfc and Scunny are tottally different animals. Mediocre manager, managing a medicore side that should be producing more. All imo. Edited 31 October, 2010 by saint lard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 31 October, 2010 Share Posted 31 October, 2010 Last 5 games - we have gained 10 points on cherries. as if Bournemouth were a bench mark team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 31 October, 2010 Share Posted 31 October, 2010 I still remain unconvinced that Adkins is the man to take us forward. Any manager worth his salt should get this squad promoted,however,we are still playing in an unconvincing manner. We beat a poor Tranmere and a 10 man Notts County side,besides that we have been poor. yet..2 points from 2nd... so you expect us to play like arsenal every week..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 31 October, 2010 Share Posted 31 October, 2010 as if Bournemouth were a bench mark team. They were 5 games ago. Let's hope we can do the same to Brighton in the next 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 31 October, 2010 Share Posted 31 October, 2010 At the end of the day I'd rather be winning 2-1 /3-1 whilst not playing that well. As opposed to totally outplaying a team whilst playing beautiful football, but only drawing or loosing. Winning when you are not at 100% is an indicator of a very good team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 31 October, 2010 Share Posted 31 October, 2010 They were 5 games ago. Let's hope we can do the same to Brighton in the next 5. Brighton are a different matter altogether, they have a really good side and a good manager to boot. Don't expect them to drop off the pace very much at all and I wouldn't be at all surprised if they get promotion.Ankergren,Calderon and Kishishev are all first rate players and we would be lucky to have any of them,if they stay fit Brighton will be there or thereabouts. Bournemouth are all huff and puff and once their style is sussed out they'll go down like Christine Keeler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 31 October, 2010 Share Posted 31 October, 2010 Winning when you are not at 100% is an indicator of a very good team. I never, ever buy that. I've always been of the opinion that the better a team plays, the more chance it has of winning, surely....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 31 October, 2010 Share Posted 31 October, 2010 At the end of the day I'd rather be winning 2-1 /3-1 whilst not playing that well. As opposed to totally outplaying a team whilst playing beautiful football, but only drawing or loosing. Yup, had enough of that the first 10 games of JP's reign (before the team lost all its confidence). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 31 October, 2010 Share Posted 31 October, 2010 Still does not disguise the fact,we are playing poor football with a sqaud capable of alot more. He is not getting the best out of this squad. I am fully behind him and long for him to do well,but,he is not going to improve our playing style and will reach his pinnacle with saints if and when he gains promotion from league one,no more. He is not going to lead us to the premiership,just a mediocre league one side struggling to get past **** poor sides. I don't expect us to sweep past every opposition put in front of us,but,we have gone backwards in our style and confidence. Lambert is a mere spectator for the majority of the time,no confidence and little contribution form a man that only last year was stunning,has Adkins done anything to address this,it appears not,he seems nowhere near his best...along with others...this,i put down to Adkins. Players do not become **** poor overnight,yet we appear all very happy with a couple of results against Tranmere and Notts County and all in the garden is rosey. The same people that were wetting themselves over the Adkins appointment are now going to proclaim he the best thing since sliced bread...but in my view he is not that good a manager,ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 31 October, 2010 Share Posted 31 October, 2010 the old manager has gone the owner has died we have had a few key injuries... a new manager comes in yet we are still 2 points from 2nd..?? lamber has scored 4 in the last 5 (or something like that).....yes from dead ball but they all count..right.??? how do you know adkins has done nothing to address anything..? lambert scored and set one up yesterday and that was **** for most Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 31 October, 2010 Share Posted 31 October, 2010 (edited) Have we improved under Adkins? Yes or no. If you answer yes,i believe you are wrong. But as in life,you are entiltled to your opinion. Are you confident of victory when going into games? Yes or no. If you answer yes then you are lieing to yourself,imo. We are unconvincing and flatter to decieve with the results and the form table that many appear to base all things upon. Edited 31 October, 2010 by saint lard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 31 October, 2010 Share Posted 31 October, 2010 Have we improved under Adkins? Yes or no. If you answer yes,i believe you are wrong. But as in life,you are entiltled to your opinion. lets see... a win on tuesday will put us into the top 6 for the first time since getting into this league.. we finished 7th last season..with our all blazing free flowing team you thought we had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 31 October, 2010 Share Posted 31 October, 2010 as if Bournemouth were a bench mark team. exactly. They were the team in 2nd, who some thought were getting out of reach. Excellent we have made up the ground so quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 31 October, 2010 Share Posted 31 October, 2010 Have we improved under Adkins? Yes or no. If you answer yes,i believe you are wrong. But as in life,you are entiltled to your opinion. i think we have improved overall but I could see that some players have taken a step sideways if not backwards, Lambert, Puncheon and Morgan in particular.In the cases of Lambert and Puncheon I couldn't say why but I think Morgan may be looking forward to January, hasn't been the same since his last bleuets outing and getting dropped on his return.May be he's had indication of an offer he may not want to refuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 31 October, 2010 Share Posted 31 October, 2010 As said above the MK game was before Adkins had seen and trained the team to any degree, we went from L 0-3 L 0-2 L 0-1 L 0-2 Adkins taking training D 0-0 W 1-0 D 1-1 W 2-0 W 2-0 L 0-2 W 2-1 W 3-1 Shame some still criticising and doubting Adkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 31 October, 2010 Share Posted 31 October, 2010 Have we improved under Adkins? Yes or no. If you answer yes,i believe you are wrong. But as in life,you are entiltled to your opinion. From where he took over, after Wilkins disastrous caretaker job? Hell yes. From last season? Not really but he has improved us defensively. Going forward, we have still not addressed our lack of pace, Last season, even though they were criticised by many, Antonio and Waigo made a massive difference to the team. Until there is a change of/addition to personnel, that is unlikely to change, whoever the manager is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 31 October, 2010 Share Posted 31 October, 2010 We don't need to improve on last season - if we play like we did then we will go up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 31 October, 2010 Share Posted 31 October, 2010 (edited) the old manager has gone the owner has died we have had a few key injuries... a new manager comes in yet we are still 2 points from 2nd..?? lamber has scored 4 in the last 5 (or something like that).....yes from dead ball but they all count..right.??? how do you know adkins has done nothing to address anything..? lambert scored and set one up yesterday and that was **** for most I would not settle for this,when only last sesson he was scoring for fun. Something fundementally is not right,not only with Lambert but with the squad in general. As for Morgan and lambert and others it appears we are having to make excuses for their underperforming......that is not right,imo. Perhaps i am alone in my stance of 'all is not rosey' but i will stick to it and respect the opposing view. Edited 31 October, 2010 by saint lard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 31 October, 2010 Share Posted 31 October, 2010 Have we improved under Adkins? Yes or no. If you answer yes,i believe you are wrong. But as in life,you are entiltled to your opinion. Are you confident of victory when going into games? Yes or no. If you answer yes then you are lieing to yourself,imo. We are unconvincing and flatter to decieve with the results and the form table that many appear to base all things upon. As said above the MK game was before Adkins had seen and trained the team to any degree, we went from L 0-3 L 0-2 L 0-1 L 0-2 Adkins taking training D 0-0 W 1-0 D 1-1 W 2-0 W 2-0 L 0-2 W 2-1 W 3-1 Shame some still criticising and doubting Adkins. if you don't admit that's an improvement then you are lying to yourself!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 31 October, 2010 Share Posted 31 October, 2010 We don't need to improve on last season - if we play like we did then we will go up That statement is backward thinking in my view,not meaning to offend. We must surely crave improvement? Look long term,not just the 'now'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 31 October, 2010 Share Posted 31 October, 2010 That statement is backward thinking in my view,not meaning to offend. We must surely crave improvement? Look long term,not just the 'now'. by getting into the playoffs on tuesday would be an improvement from any point since being in league 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 31 October, 2010 Share Posted 31 October, 2010 That statement is backward thinking in my view,not meaning to offend. We must surely crave improvement? Look long term,not just the 'now'. no we need to get out of this league. The way we played, and the results - Oct onwards if repeated would give us a succesful season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 31 October, 2010 Share Posted 31 October, 2010 I see that Gary Johnson at Posh is asking himself if he really has any influence over his side's performances. Probably not relative to Adkins situation but I don't doubt that some of our recent managers had no control real over the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 31 October, 2010 Share Posted 31 October, 2010 by getting into the playoffs on tuesday would be an improvement from any point since being in league 1 We almost got into the play offs last season with a 10 point deficit. It should not be difficult to do the same again without a deficit and a team playing at their full potential. I so hope we get out of this league under Adkins,but surely you agree we are not playing to our optimum capabilities. I reitterate, i don't expect us to sweep other teams aside,but we are not playing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 31 October, 2010 Share Posted 31 October, 2010 no we need to get out of this league. The way we played, and the results - Oct onwards if repeated would give us a succesful season. True getting out of this League is primordial, that's why going behind in tricky little away matches like Notts C is so depressing,because if you lose that sort of game you'll be in League 1 in 2060.Our defending is still suspect, not the defenders per se but we're still getting it wrong in certain dead ball situations, exactly why Lallana and or Barnard were supposed to be marking the advancing CB yesterday just beggars all belief,neither of them are very good in the air are they.It's a trait that seems to run throughout League 1 because Fonté goal last week came from exactly the same sort of situation, except that he was totally unmarked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 31 October, 2010 Share Posted 31 October, 2010 If we continue gaining points as we have under the last 8 games under Adkins we will finish with 89 points. This would be more than has been needed for automatic promotion for everyone of the last 10 seasons. Therefore Adkins has, consistently for the last 8 games got us performing at the level needed. We could always do better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 31 October, 2010 Share Posted 31 October, 2010 We almost got into the play offs last season with a 10 point deficit. It should not be difficult to do the same again without a deficit and a team playing at their full potential. I so hope we get out of this league under Adkins,but surely you agree we are not playing to our optimum capabilities. I reitterate, i don't expect us to sweep other teams aside,but we are not playing well. and where would we have finished if they gave us our 10 points back....something like 5th wasnt it..? wow, for a team that was so good...etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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