farawaysaint Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Sorry if this has been covered but allegedly the daily mirror had us linked to Murray of Brighton? Third party source I'm afraid http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?200493-Murray-to-Southampton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Would be very funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Would be good just for the lolz. Has been linked to loadsa clubs so I doubt theres anything in it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Would he make the first team sheet for us, or would he just be cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 3 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Would be good just for the lolz. Has been linked to loadsa clubs so I doubt theres anything in it at all. True, Brighton's meltdown at him moving to a smaller club would be something to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNeil90 Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 We can do so much better. Would probably 3rd/4th choice striker if he came here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 We can do so much better. Would probably 3rd/4th choice striker if he came here. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Lol at the lambert Murray swap rumour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Would he make the first team sheet for us, or would he just be cover? I think it would depend on him keeping up with Lambert, Connolly and Barnard!! It would be absolutely hilarious if we did sign him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu0x Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 I'd hope we'd be thinking a bit bigger than that really (and the same could be said of Mackail Smith, can't really work out the obsession of some to sign him) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 I'd hope we'd be thinking a bit bigger than that really (and the same could be said of Mackail Smith, can't really work out the obsession of some to sign him) +1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 I'd hope we'd be thinking a bit bigger than that really (and the same could be said of Mackail Smith, can't really work out the obsession of some to sign him) -1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadia Sllim Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 transition from playing in front of 7,000 to 32,000 sell outs would be a massive step up for the lad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 I'd hope we'd be thinking a bit bigger than that really (and the same could be said of Mackail Smith, can't really work out the obsession of some to sign him) Yes I could never understand this either. The possibility of taking the leagues top scorer away from one of our main rivals was a mystery to me as well. Npower League One Top Scorers Team TOT Mackail-SmithPeterborough26MurrayBrighton22LambertSouthampton21Wright-PhillipsCharlton21BarnesBrighton17CuretonExeter17HoskinsBristol Rovers17JonesRochdale17RhodesHuddersfield16BarnardSouthampton14BowditchYeovil14BoydPeterborough14HughesNotts County13JacksonCharlton13MadineSheff Wed13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu0x Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Yes I could never understand this either. The possibility of taking the leagues top scorer away from one of our main rivals was a mystery to me as well. Npower League One Top Scorers Team TOT Mackail-SmithPeterborough26MurrayBrighton22LambertSouthampton21Wright-PhillipsCharlton21BarnesBrighton17CuretonExeter17HoskinsBristol Rovers17JonesRochdale17RhodesHuddersfield16BarnardSouthampton14BowditchYeovil14BoydPeterborough14HughesNotts County13JacksonCharlton13MadineSheff Wed13 We're not in that league any more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 transition from playing in front of 7,000 to 32,000 sell outs would be a massive step up for the lad? Steady on son. Great that we got promoted but if you think we'll be playing in front of 32,000 regularly next season think again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 It'd be a step up for the lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 (edited) We're not in that league any more But the "obsession" with signing him came about while we were. I t hasn`t just started since Monday. This makes it more understandable surely? Edited 4 May, 2011 by miserableoldgit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadia Sllim Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Steady on son. Great that we got promoted but if you think we'll be playing in front of 32,000 regularly next season think again. Agree but I am sure if we were to be in the top six just before Christmas our gates would top 28,000 most weeks then selling out for likes of West Ham, Leeds, Wolves and Brighton. Also Pompey if they could sell their allocation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerceSaint28 Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Definitely not good enough for us im afraid. If we were still in league 1 next season then i would be happy but not in the Championship. CMS is the guy for us IMO, he tore us apart a few months ago, is top goalscorer, works amazingly hard and was voted best player in the league. It's no coincidence that Hull and Norwich were trying to sign him. Lucky for us the canaries got promoted so i doubt they are interested now, he would be amazing up top with Lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 We're not in that league any more Neither were Norwich yet they wanted to sign him, should we ditch the entire saints team as they're all league one players at present? Going back to Norwich who scored the goal to send them up to the PL? thats right Jackson a league one striker last season. CMS would be a great addition to the team I'd rather have a hungry talented player from a lower league than some name looking for his last pay day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 transition from playing in front of 7,000 to 32,000 sell outs would be a massive step up for the lad? Dickson, Seaborne, Richardson, Stephens, Chaplow, Barnard and Lambert all managed similar step ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Definitely not good enough for us im afraid. If we were still in league 1 next season then i would be happy but not in the Championship. CMS is the guy for us IMO, he tore us apart a few months ago, is top goalscorer, works amazingly hard and was voted best player in the league. It's no coincidence that Hull and Norwich were trying to sign him. Lucky for us the canaries got promoted so i doubt they are interested now, he would be amazing up top with Lambert +1 :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Holt, Jackson and dont forget Beckford have all done pretty well. I would love saints to sign MS, exactly what we need (but I think he will go to Norwich still) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Wouldn't take a risk with CMS - compared to other positions, our frontline has very little championship experience and would prefer proven pedigree, especially if he is cast as leading forward. CMS is quite similar to Barney in style and many forwards would do well in a Peterboro team that has created chances for fun. There are arguably more L1 strikers that have not made a huge impression on the championship -Hunt, Paynter, McLean, BWP etc- than ones that have (and the ones that have made the step up have usually been promoted with the team, not been subject to a big money move). Of course, CMS spent a season in the championship and has learnt from the experience but the numbers -£2m+- being bandied about are pretty steep and need much greater justification in terms of value for money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Wouldn't take a risk with CMS - compared to other positions, our frontline has very little championship experience and would prefer proven pedigree, especially if he is cast as leading forward. CMS is quite similar to Barney in style and many forwards would do well in a Peterboro team that has created chances for fun. There are arguably more L1 strikers that have not made a huge impression on the championship -Hunt, Paynter, McLean, BWP etc- than ones that have (and the ones that have made the step up have usually been promoted with the team, not been subject to a big money move). Of course, CMS spent a season in the championship and has learnt from the experience but the numbers -£2m+- being bandied about are pretty steep and need much greater justification in terms of value for money. Danny Graham is a realistic target for us from Watford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Glen Murray is a good player as those of us at our 3-1 defeat last season will testify when he ripped Jaidi and Trotman a new one. Unlike many of the posters on here I think he WILL do well in the NPC, getting 16-17 goals but he's less likely to be moving to us or any other southern club as he is from Cumbria originally and wants I'm told by friends who are Carlisle fans that he wants to move back to the North West. Burnley are a possible destination although they have a similar player in Austin, Wigan if they go down and Blackpool. Further afield, on a free I can see him being attractive to Hudds if they win the play offs (Alan Lee is too old now for NPC) or maybe Leeds as he's a far better player than Billy Paynter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK_Phoey Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 So? Just as many have failed. In fact, Holt has failed in that league before, Jackson took a long time to make an impact. All depends on the player. Lambert for instance could be as good or better than Holt, or could really struggle. V hard to know. IMO he's level headed and his finishing will remain largely similar regardless of league, but perhaps his lack of pace will limit chances a little more. Pace around him will compensate though. I'm still very happy to have Lambert as the main striker next season though. Don't get too many games from League 1 here so can't really comment on Murray or CMS. Personally from what I have seen of Lambert, I think he will do quite well. He is not a striker that relies on pace to score the bulk of his goals but works intelligently around the box and brings others into play. I agree if we could pair him up with someone who is quick, can run at people and dribble a bit I think they could both do well. Someone like Rob Earnshaw would be my choice, probably not good enough for the premier league but has bags of expereince at championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Someone like Rob Earnshaw would be my choice, probably not good enough for the premier league but has bags of expereince at championship.He wants a small fortune in wages, which is why Forest have so far failed to agree a deal with him. They want to reduce their wage bill, he doesn't want to reduce his upwards of 17k a week wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Think Murray will do well at NPC level, especially looking at the way he took Trotman and Jaidi apart last year. Also, isn't he going to be out of contract at the end of the season? Getting him on a free would be good business, if so, and annoy Poyet along the way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 CMS price will have dropped as teams will have been quoted a "premium" for him in January. Had they sold him then they would have had little chance of promotion imo. Now he only has 1 year on his contract and they have said he can leave. He scored 10 goals in the NPC last time out and is in the best form of his career, he has what we lack....pace up front (other than Forte). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu0x Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Neither were Norwich yet they wanted to sign him, should we ditch the entire saints team as they're all league one players at present? Going back to Norwich who scored the goal to send them up to the PL? thats right Jackson a league one striker last season. CMS would be a great addition to the team I'd rather have a hungry talented player from a lower league than some name looking for his last pay day. I didn't realise they were the only two options. I'm not advocating the return of James Beattie either. My point is that Mackail Smith has had one decent season. He was in the Championship last season and was unspectacular. He's already 27. Now it may be that he's going to peak late, and will only improve over the next few seasons into a Premiership-quality player. But its more likely that he wont.I would hope we would be aiming higher (now that we are promoted) than a player that has had one good season at League One level and several okay ones at a lower level. But if you listen to some on here, he is/was somehow the magic ingredient that would guarantee us promotion and worth spending three times as much as we did on Lambert (which was already a considerable amount for a third tier player) for. Incidentally, how are Jason Scotland and Simon Cox doing these days? Presumably they're ripping the Premiership (or even Championship) apart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 that is a good point, but having seen him play against us I feel he would be a good option at the right price. £1-1.5ml would be a good deal imo. He is not superman but how much would a prem class striker cost!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 I doubt they would sell him for that when they turned down bigger from Norwich a few months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambertsrightleg Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Isn't CMS out of contract in the summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 .. I'm told by friends who are Carlisle fans that he wants to move back to the North West. Very out of date I'm afraid. That WAS the case a while ago due to personal circumstances. But most definitely isn't the case now due to personal circumstances. Which is why stories are emerging regarding to sale to Southern Clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 .. when I said "sale" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 I doubt they would sell him for that when they turned down bigger from Norwich a few months ago. MLG see my post 32 why I think they will have little choice! They could have sold him for a premium in Jan but wanted to have a good crack at the autos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Isn't CMS out of contract in the summer No, next summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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