The9 Posted 2 May, 2013 Author Share Posted 2 May, 2013 So from different sources we've now heard "Cortese hates red and white" and "Cortese wants red, with some white, because it's Swiss colours". Anyone can say anything online with absolutely no evidence whatsoever. I can't see it not being some kind of red and white, and even the "adidas" rumour seems to be based on one "joint megastore" rumour that no-one else has had any input into. By this time LAST year a few of us had already seen a pic of the kit and were drip-feeding hints into threads (well, I was). Haven't seen a thing this year, but I'd be very surprised if the deal wasn't already done and the kits weren't already made. As for "pick a decision he's made that's been wrong. Not easy", I can't believe people like that actually exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lej Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 It will be Adidas that is one thing for sure, i know people who work inside Adidas, it will be only available via the club also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 May, 2013 Author Share Posted 2 May, 2013 It will be Adidas that is one thing for sure, i know people who work inside Adidas, it will be only available via the club also. So they've said "we're making Saints' kit" but nothing about the colour or style ? Dell-sized mentality on the club-only thing, and I find it amazing that Cortese has kept this, of all Lowe's policies. I thought we were meant to be expanding into some kind of global merchandise megalith ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 Presumably the club will have decided that we wouldn't sell enough outside of the city/region yet to make it worth doing deals with retailers, giving them a cut etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 It will be Adidas that is one thing for sure, i know people who work inside Adidas, it will be only available via the club also. So that you don't get anyone into trouble by revealing what the kit looks like.....please can you describe what it doesn't look like.... cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 Presumably the club will have decided that we wouldn't sell enough outside of the city/region yet to make it worth doing deals with retailers, giving them a cut etc. Saints have probably decided that they can't compete with Pompey's marketing strategy for their new kit.... http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/LatestNews/news/Pompey-Partner-With-Sondico-4361.aspx Pompey CEO Mark Catlin said: “We are proud to announce our new partnership with Sondico Professional. “Throughout negotiations with us they have demonstrated that they have a real desire to engage with our team. They understand our history and what a big club this is. “They have offered us not only an outstanding commercial deal, but a genuine desire to work with Portsmouth in the community. “It’s a fantastic start to the deal to say, hand on heart, that we believe we have the cheapest shirts in English football and hope to see as many kids as possible in the south-east wearing them. “The deal helps us to recognise our huge and geographically-spread supporter base by taking Pompey back out to the whole regional community of supporters.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 May, 2013 Author Share Posted 2 May, 2013 Saints have probably decided that they can't compete with Pompey's marketing strategy for their new kit.... http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/LatestNews/news/Pompey-Partner-With-Sondico-4361.aspx Yeah, they're going to shift shedloads of cheap-looking £36 shirts in League One. Will make all the difference, that £6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLY Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 Yeah, they're going to shift shedloads of cheap-looking £36 shirts in League One. Will make all the difference, that £6. League 2 you mean! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 May, 2013 Author Share Posted 2 May, 2013 League 2 you mean! Ha, oh yes, I very much did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 So from different sources we've now heard "Cortese hates red and white" and "Cortese wants red, with some white, because it's Swiss colours". Anyone can say anything online with absolutely no evidence whatsoever. I can't see it not being some kind of red and white, and even the "adidas" rumour seems to be based on one "joint megastore" rumour that no-one else has had any input into. By this time LAST year a few of us had already seen a pic of the kit and were drip-feeding hints into threads (well, I was). Haven't seen a thing this year, but I'd be very surprised if the deal wasn't already done and the kits weren't already made. As for "pick a decision he's made that's been wrong. Not easy", I can't believe people like that actually exist. I guess that the reason there has been no leaks is due to a few key things needing to be sorted yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 May, 2013 Author Share Posted 2 May, 2013 I guess that the reason there has been no leaks is due to a few key things needing to be sorted yet The kit will almost certainly be sat in a warehouse somewhere in Bangladesh or China ready to ship already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 The kit will almost certainly be sat in a warehouse somewhere in Bangladesh or China ready to ship already. I'm not so sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 May, 2013 Author Share Posted 2 May, 2013 The kit will almost certainly be sat in a warehouse somewhere in Bangladesh or China ready to ship already. Actually, more likely to be Indonesia judging by this article (and no, I'm not expecting a single one of you to care less about Indonesian sweatshop conditions) : http://www.thenation.com/blog/170443/universities-dump-adidas-over-labor-disputes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 May, 2013 Author Share Posted 2 May, 2013 I'm not so sure Everything I've read about kit production mentions about 2 month lead times from finalised design, so assuming we plan on selling kit from, say, the first week of August, then, yeah, there is about another month before we'd have to be confirming production. However, as we're switching manufacturer (apparently to adidas) there's every reason to believe they'd want their presence on all of our branding as early as possible, which would be from the end of this season in a couple of weeks' time. In which case the stuff would most likely have been commissioned at least 6 weeks ago and be ready to ship in a few weeks' time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 Saints have probably decided that they can't compete with Pompey's marketing strategy for their new kit.... http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/LatestNews/news/Pompey-Partner-With-Sondico-4361.aspx and alongside that statement is the league one table with them proudly sitting right at the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 The kit will almost certainly be sat in a warehouse somewhere in Bangladesh or China ready to ship already. Thats if the warehouse hasnt fallen down yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 (edited) Everything I've read about kit production mentions about 2 month lead times from finalised design, so assuming we plan on selling kit from, say, the first week of August, then, yeah, there is about another month before we'd have to be confirming production. However, as we're switching manufacturer (apparently to adidas) there's every reason to believe they'd want their presence on all of our branding as early as possible, which would be from the end of this season in a couple of weeks' time. In which case the stuff would most likely have been commissioned at least 6 weeks ago and be ready to ship in a few weeks' time. I think you may be closer to the mark with the August date, from what ive heard. As I mentioned, things need agreeing ASAP before the big green button can be pressed. Edited 3 May, 2013 by SO16_Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 2 May, 2013 Share Posted 2 May, 2013 Very interesting. Sounds like the final design has not been signed off yet by all parties. As the 9 said, this would be fairly rare, but we are southampton and we (cortese) do what we want. An early launch seems out of the question then, but expect the adidas leisure wear from June or early July IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 3 May, 2013 Share Posted 3 May, 2013 I think you may be closer to the mark with the August date, from what ow heard. As I mentioned, things need agreeing ASAP before the big green button can be pressed. Mmm,is this a subtle hint to add some creedance to rumours the kit will have some green cunningly woven into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 8 May, 2013 Share Posted 8 May, 2013 FWIW West Ham have signed a 2 year deal with Adidas wef 13/14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MINIBARCELONASAINT Posted 8 May, 2013 Share Posted 8 May, 2013 FWIW West Ham have signed a 2 year deal with Adidas wef 13/14. Our kit is 100% definitely going to be made by Adidas next season. Fact. St. Lej is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydie Posted 9 May, 2013 Share Posted 9 May, 2013 FWIW West Ham have signed a 2 year deal with Adidas wef 13/14. Since there's talk of other teams deals I've heard talk that Arsenal have signed a massive deal with Puma for circa £30m per season! Can we have Puma please?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananaman Posted 9 May, 2013 Share Posted 9 May, 2013 Since there's talk of other teams deals I've heard talk that Arsenal have signed a massive deal with Puma for circa £30m per season! Can we have Puma please?! would be happy with that.. love what they do with the Italian kits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 9 May, 2013 Share Posted 9 May, 2013 Thats if the warehouse hasnt fallen down yet. Cheap and poor and mind bogglingly insensitive. Hardly a joking matter for the families of the over 900 people that lost their lives. Try to keep a sense of decorum and decency even here on a football website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 May, 2013 Author Share Posted 10 May, 2013 A few of adidas' latest releases... Marseille "Jeans" third kit : which you might notice has the same template pattern as the new Wolfsburg shirt : Schalke have the big V neck style (of Milan's away kit and Celta Vigo) : Whilst Milan's 3rd kit (with horrible pocket) has the curved sleeved piece : and the same template style as the Ajax away shirt : Nothing new though, all templates that have already been seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 This is easily my favourite thread on the whole of this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 Whilst Milan's 3rd kit (with horrible pocket) has the curved sleeved piece : Why on earth does a football shirt need a pocket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 Two that I have seen a do think might be used could well be the Vancouver WhiteCaps and the Montreal kits. Both Adidas, very smart and could fit our style (both obviously in Red as primary colour with white 2nd colour). Vancouver WhiteCaps Home Kit 2012-2013 http://www.whitecapsfc.com/news/2013/02/vancouver-whitecaps-fc-launch-mls-primary-kit Montreal Home Kit 2012-2013 As you all know, I love kit mockups so will be doing a few when the new templates for next seasons kits come out to see what they look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 May, 2013 Author Share Posted 10 May, 2013 The Vancouver kit is last year's template so we won't get that, and the Montreal away one's already been posted (and is the same style as Milan 3rd, Ajax away, Sporting Kansas "tennis shirt", and Sounders home also already posted). There are a few different stripe styles around though, as well as the Montreal away, there's the thinner stripes (with pinstripes) of the Milan home, and the Portland Timbers broad stripe. There's also a broad striped Philadelphia Union shirt (home or away) but that's last season's template too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 Why on earth does a football shirt need a pocket? So the players can keep a copy of their FM stats to hand as a reminder to the level they should play at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 Something like that in red and white would be perfect, please. I can't see a return to red and white stripes this season though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 May, 2013 Author Share Posted 10 May, 2013 Something like that in red and white would be perfect, please. I can't see a return to red and white stripes this season though. It's alright, I think I'd like to see a bit of black in the trim and probably a different style collar. Adidas seem to be mixing up the collar styles across all of their kits and they have plenty of them to choose from. Red or white sleeves ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 (edited) I predict bold stripes. e.g 2 / 3 stripes similar to this Saints kit: but with red being the predominant colour and a white middle stripe as I think that is the way Cortese wants us to go. However, I would be more than happy to continue using the pinstripes in some form as it makes us different to every other striped club in the Premier League. By the way, has anyone considered horizontal stripes? With QPR and Reading leaving the league, this opens up a potential marketing opportunity with red and white hoops? Edited 10 May, 2013 by itchen_dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 It's alright, I think I'd like to see a bit of black in the trim and probably a different style collar. Adidas seem to be mixing up the collar styles across all of their kits and they have plenty of them to choose from. Red or white sleeves ? I liked the adidas mock up earlier in the therad, so whatever that is! My ideal would be a smar recreation of the Rank Xerox; fat chance, I feel. God only knows what wacky creation we'll get this year. I'm fully expecting to be entirely underwhelmed by it; I just hope there might be something I might choose to buy for 5 a side and that doesn't have the terribly naff massive sticky label plastered over the front (which it clearly will FFS). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 I predict bold stripes. e.g 2 / 3 stripes similar to this Saints kit: However, I would be more than happy to continue using the pinstripes in some form as it makes us different to every other striped club in the Premier League. Almost Rank Xerox, so I wouldn't be averse to that. Although i really have no issue with the fact that other clubs play in red and white stripes. Its us, its what we're known for, and trying to create a new brand identity out of white and grey pinstripes isn't for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 May, 2013 Author Share Posted 10 May, 2013 I liked the adidas mock up earlier in the therad, so whatever that is! My ideal would be a smar recreation of the Rank Xerox; fat chance, I feel. God only knows what wacky creation we'll get this year. I'm fully expecting to be entirely underwhelmed by it; I just hope there might be something I might choose to buy for 5 a side and that doesn't have the terribly naff massive sticky label plastered over the front (which it clearly will FFS). The broad stripe is the Portland Timbers home and away style - goes with the big ugly V neck though in the only styles that have been released so far... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 10 May, 2013 Share Posted 10 May, 2013 The broad stripe is the Portland Timbers home and away style - goes with the big ugly V neck though in the only styles that have been released so far... Be interesting to see the 2013/14 Ajax home shirt when released (away shirt featured above), doubt that will be buggered up by the V you refer to above, so a simple reversal of their kit will do nicely I hope. Although I doubt it will be anything as smart or conventional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 11 May, 2013 Share Posted 11 May, 2013 Just seen that Adidas have a sash design in the range this year, with Wolfsburg. Could of course also be available with a red sash, but probably falls within the criticism often seen on here "looks too much like a training top". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 11 May, 2013 Share Posted 11 May, 2013 Something like that in red and white would be perfect, please. I can't see a return to red and white stripes this season though. but that collar and button look very chavvy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 11 May, 2013 Share Posted 11 May, 2013 i don't like the shirts with the deep v neck design, and the timbers one is ok, but i don't like the fake stitching effect up the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 11 May, 2013 Share Posted 11 May, 2013 This one is my favourite, but could be made better if the white middle section was just slightly narrower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 11 May, 2013 Share Posted 11 May, 2013 ^^ Looks like a training ground top to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 11 May, 2013 Share Posted 11 May, 2013 ^^ Looks like a training ground top to me. I don't see why. What's the definition of a training top? But as I say, if the white was a bit narrower with a bit more detail (such as the black piping) where the red meets the middle white part and it would be perfect, for me anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 11 May, 2013 Share Posted 11 May, 2013 I just think it looks a bit plain. And naff, if honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpweySaint Posted 11 May, 2013 Share Posted 11 May, 2013 I don't see why. What's the definition of a training top? But as I say, if the white was a bit narrower with a bit more detail (such as the black piping) where the red meets the middle white part and it would be perfect, for me anyway. Agree actually. I understand the training top criticism but, frankly, this actually looks nice and includes some level of red and white stripes. Not seen much better if im honest but haven't liked a saints shirt for a while with the exception, funnily enough, of the 125 year sash one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints boy in Leeds Posted 11 May, 2013 Share Posted 11 May, 2013 This one is my favourite, but could be made better if the white middle section was just slightly narrower. I'd love that shirt but would like a few stripes to go in mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 11 May, 2013 Author Share Posted 11 May, 2013 Just seen that Adidas have a sash design in the range this year, with Wolfsburg. Could of course also be available with a red sash, but probably falls within the criticism often seen on here "looks too much like a training top". Posted it on the last page - judging by the adidas "prints" they're using this season (see Montreal red home kit and Sporting Kansas "tennis" shirt for example) they could print a sash on any of their templates. I'd rather we left the sash in the past for a bit and wore predominantly stripes for a few seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 11 May, 2013 Author Share Posted 11 May, 2013 i don't like the shirts with the deep v neck design, and the timbers one is ok, but i don't like the fake stitching effect up the side. That's a "sawtooth" effect, so would be unique to the Timbers. I just couldn't be arsed to faff about removing it from the mock up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 11 May, 2013 Author Share Posted 11 May, 2013 This one is my favourite, but could be made better if the white middle section was just slightly narrower. I don't like that at all, far too plain, far too much white, not stripes in any realistic way and not really a broad stripe either - so as such I agree that the white is too wide. Needs a lot more red. Plus, as I keep pointing out, it's last season's template so we won't have that anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 11 May, 2013 Share Posted 11 May, 2013 Are we deinitely getting Adidas? Or is it still just a rumour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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