SO16_Saint Posted 10 April, 2014 Share Posted 10 April, 2014 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/11138056.City_s___70m_development_to_face_final_hurdle/ What is everyone's thoughts on this? I personally think it looks pretty smart, and like the look/sound of it. I cant understand why everyone is so bl00dy fixated on wanting an ice rink in Southampton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JN9 Posted 10 April, 2014 Share Posted 10 April, 2014 I don't get the ice rink thing either... I'm sure if we had one I'd use it once and then probably never bother again. I imagine most people would do the same... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 10 April, 2014 Share Posted 10 April, 2014 As a retail development its fine. Trouble is Southampton doesn't need another retail development. So what will they do with all the closed down shops in Above Bar / London Road? The city is crying out for a distinctive draw to the city eg a well designed and built waterfront nightlife area instead of the industrial sheds atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 10 April, 2014 Share Posted 10 April, 2014 There are other priorities. High Street needs sorting. It used to be one of our most important streets. It has been allowed to fall into ruin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 10 April, 2014 Share Posted 10 April, 2014 As a retail development its fine. Trouble is Southampton doesn't need another retail development. So what will they do with all the closed down shops in Above Bar / London Road? The city is crying out for a distinctive draw to the city eg a well designed and built waterfront nightlife area instead of the industrial sheds atm. Very much this. Southampton as a city can only cope with a certain amount of retail - there are enough shops in the city already, so all that will happen with this new development is stores further away from West Quay will end up closing, causing a different part of the city to fall into disrepair. As you rightly say, the waterfront is drastically underused and underdeveloped and would be a massive opportunity to create something genuinely interesting and appealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 10 April, 2014 Share Posted 10 April, 2014 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/11138056.City_s___70m_development_to_face_final_hurdle/ What is everyone's thoughts on this? I personally think it looks pretty smart, and like the look/sound of it. I cant understand why everyone is so bl00dy fixated on wanting an ice rink in Southampton. Same on Bournemouth/Poole, as soon as a new development in mooted peeps are clamouring for an ice rink! There's a reason why the old ice rink closed down you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 10 April, 2014 Share Posted 10 April, 2014 Very much this. Southampton as a city can only cope with a certain amount of retail - there are enough shops in the city already, so all that will happen with this new development is stores further away from West Quay will end up closing, causing a different part of the city to fall into disrepair. As you rightly say, the waterfront is drastically underused and underdeveloped and would be a massive opportunity to create something genuinely interesting and appealing. There is a waterfront scheme being drawn up which will, hopefully, provide a very good opportunity to extend the city towards the water. I suspect the shopping around east street will suffer, but retail is concentrated around west quay now whether it's liked or not and will not change. The Council will need to have a firm idea what they want for these areas, but it seems a small price to pay for the necessary advances these waterfront developments will bring. I just hope they get the planning design right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Stickman Posted 10 April, 2014 Share Posted 10 April, 2014 I miss the old skating rink – me and my girlfriend used to skate there like Orville and Bean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 10 April, 2014 Share Posted 10 April, 2014 Why not spend the £70 Million (chickenfeed) on something that will actually draw the punters in, a sky tower, a bridge over the City, a waterfront with a seasonal beach, a waterfront would be nice as the City is on the water, years of neglect and an ikea......................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack rill Posted 10 April, 2014 Share Posted 10 April, 2014 Why not spend the £70 Million (chickenfeed) on something that will actually draw the punters in, a sky tower, a bridge over the City, a waterfront with a seasonal beach, a waterfront would be nice as the City is on the water, years of neglect and an ikea......................... or just a door mat,,,,,wipe your feet on the way out, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 10 April, 2014 Share Posted 10 April, 2014 It's about time they did something but why not just make a nice park ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 10 April, 2014 Share Posted 10 April, 2014 Why would someone open another cinema there when there are already 3 others within easy walking distance? What we need is a decent mid sized music/events venue like the BIC, not more shops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 10 April, 2014 Share Posted 10 April, 2014 When do we get the monorail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoPints Posted 10 April, 2014 Share Posted 10 April, 2014 Why would someone open another cinema there when there are already 3 others within easy walking distance? What we need is a decent mid sized music/events venue like the BIC, not more shops. Good call. This gets my vote. You should put your name forward on the best world leaders thread. Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 10 April, 2014 Share Posted 10 April, 2014 Why would someone open another cinema there when there are already 3 others within easy walking distance? What we need is a decent mid sized music/events venue like the BIC, not more shops. Good call. This gets my vote. You should put your name forward on the best world leaders thread. The next phase should be to bulldoze West Quay and put a proper indoor arena / concert venue there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 10 April, 2014 Share Posted 10 April, 2014 When do we get the monorail? One day we'll be able to afford two rails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 11 April, 2014 Share Posted 11 April, 2014 Very much this. Southampton as a city can only cope with a certain amount of retail - there are enough shops in the city already, so all that will happen with this new development is stores further away from West Quay will end up closing, causing a different part of the city to fall into disrepair. As you rightly say, the waterfront is drastically underused and underdeveloped and would be a massive opportunity to create something genuinely interesting and appealing. This isn't shops though is it? It's restaurants, a cinema and maybe a bowling alley. If it's true that Odeon want to move out of Leisure World to this site, I'd have thought people would be happy with this idea. The entire West Quay site then becomes something along similar lines to Gunwharf, but bigger and with proper shops instead of outlet stores. Why not spend the £70 Million (chickenfeed) on something that will actually draw the punters in, a sky tower, a bridge over the City, a waterfront with a seasonal beach, a waterfront would be nice as the City is on the water, years of neglect and an ikea......................... As usual when something like this is discussed, you seem to talk as if it's the council investing and doing the work. I don't imagine SCC have £70m knocking around to invest in vanity projects. If they did, then maybe they should reduce council tax instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 11 April, 2014 Share Posted 11 April, 2014 When do we get the monorail? Is there a chance the track could bend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 11 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 11 April, 2014 Is there a chance the track could bend? Not on your life, my Hindu friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 April, 2014 Share Posted 11 April, 2014 We already have shops, bowling and cinemas in Southampton. Why not give us something else that is worthwhile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 11 April, 2014 Share Posted 11 April, 2014 (edited) I heard that, originally, when the Swedish furniture store was mooted they were going to build it over Southampton Central but this got rejected by central Government. When asked why they said that they didn't want Southampton getting Ikeas above its station.. Edited 11 April, 2014 by Big Bad Bob too many apostrophes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 11 April, 2014 Share Posted 11 April, 2014 We already have shops, bowling and cinemas in Southampton. Why not give us something else that is worthwhile? Dedicated downtown dogging district, hypo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 11 April, 2014 Share Posted 11 April, 2014 This isn't shops though is it? It's restaurants, a cinema and maybe a bowling alley. If it's true that Odeon want to move out of Leisure World to this site, I'd have thought people would be happy with this idea. The entire West Quay site then becomes something along similar lines to Gunwharf, but bigger and with proper shops instead of outlet stores. As usual when something like this is discussed, you seem to talk as if it's the council investing and doing the work. I don't imagine SCC have £70m knocking around to invest in vanity projects. If they did, then maybe they should reduce council tax instead? Heavens above the council investing in their City to get locals or tourists in, what incentive is there for going to Southampton and staying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 11 April, 2014 Share Posted 11 April, 2014 Gunwharf is ****e as well, why are people holding that up as some sort of shopping and nightlife mecca? Its gash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 April, 2014 Share Posted 11 April, 2014 Dedicated downtown dogging district, hypo? We have enough of that down Derby road and the common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 11 April, 2014 Share Posted 11 April, 2014 We have enough of that down Derby road and the common. Derby Road had character, more than the whole on the City centre, sterile boring and the worst place in the UK for its size to eat surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 11 April, 2014 Share Posted 11 April, 2014 We have enough of that down Derby road and the common. So you're essentially satisfied with the existing dogging facilities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 April, 2014 Share Posted 11 April, 2014 So you're essentially satisfied with the existing dogging facilities? I'm not sure any extra dogging facilities could offer something that the others don't already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouchie Crouchie Posted 11 April, 2014 Share Posted 11 April, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mase Posted 11 April, 2014 Share Posted 11 April, 2014 As a retail development its fine. Trouble is Southampton doesn't need another retail development. So what will they do with all the closed down shops in Above Bar / London Road? The city is crying out for a distinctive draw to the city eg a well designed and built waterfront nightlife area instead of the industrial sheds atm. Spot on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 11 April, 2014 Share Posted 11 April, 2014 Waste of time trying to keep shops open on deserted high streets. Turn them back into housing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoPints Posted 11 April, 2014 Share Posted 11 April, 2014 The next phase should be to bulldoze West Quay and put a proper indoor arena / concert venue there. Waste of time trying to keep shops open on deserted high streets. Turn them back into housing. That should be easy cos places like Furniture Land are already like ready made houses, just with loads of sofas and beds. Chuck a couple of TVs and a microwave in and you're done. Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 That should be easy cos places like Furniture Land are already like ready made houses, just with loads of sofas and beds. Chuck a couple of TVs and a microwave in and you're done. Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk Open plan bedsits, I like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 Open plan bedsits, I like it Aren't they called 'tents'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 That should be easy cos places like Furniture Land are already like ready made houses, just with loads of sofas and beds. Chuck a couple of TVs and a microwave in and you're done. Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk I'll take a nice comfortable armchair in the bath and shower section. And some popcorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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