Goatboy Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 End of day all you want is him sitting on saints bench as that is what suits southampton. Fair enough as it is your club What happens happens. You have a new gaffer, he wanted a new first choice keeper as is his right And as he is showing with Morgan, it is also his right to hold players to their contracts. How is Morgan's agent doing?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irene Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 And as he is showing with Morgan, it is also his right to hold players to their contracts. How is Morgan's agent doing?? Time will tell with Morgan as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 Time will tell with Morgan as well So are you saying that Both Artur and Morgan will have left the club by September 1st? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irene Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 So are you saying that Both Artur and Morgan will have left the club by September 1st? 1st Sept will be judgement day for first half of season. Morgan is decent guy who has had promises to him broken. Do I think going on strike for a week is a good idea? No. But we all deal with situations how we choose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 1st Sept will be judgement day for first half of season. So you don't know then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 1st Sept will be judgement day for first half of season. It's like having Mystic Smeg on here isn't it. #obvious&boring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irene Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 So you don't know then? Anything can happen in next two weeks. 1 out the 2 may well be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 Anything can happen in next two weeks. 1 out the 2 may well be Boring generics again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 It's like having Mystic Smeg on here isn't it. #obvious&boring Now I'm reading all her posts in that voice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 Anything can happen in next two weeks. 1 out the 2 may well be "Don't worry about it. Can guarantee he will not be sitting on your bench come 1st september" So is it guaranteed or 'may well be'? Or is it don't really know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irene Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 "Don't worry about it. Can guarantee he will not be sitting on your bench come 1st september" So is it guaranteed or 'may well be'? Or is it don't really know? Guaranteed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 Guaranteed Money back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 Guaranteed 18 days max of this boring sh*te then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 Who's bench will he be sitting on then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 Guaranteed So if I punt £1000 on AB to leave Saints in the window, you will pay me back if he doesn't? As in, you will guarantee it? That's what you are saying yeah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 (edited) So if I punt £1000 on AB to leave Saints in the window, you will pay me back if he doesn't? As in, you will guarantee it? That's what you are saying yeah? Good plan! Let's all get on it. Though maybe irene is just going to have FF whacked? Edited 13 August, 2014 by Goatboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irene Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 So if I punt £1000 on AB to leave Saints in the window, you will pay me back if he doesn't? As in, you will guarantee it? That's what you are saying yeah? Why would I pay some stranger money. Your choice to place a bet You can believe me or not. I'm not bothered. If I'm telling it like it is you will know come window shutting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 Why would I pay some stranger money. Your choice to place a bet You can believe me or not. I'm not bothered. If I'm telling it like it is you will know come window shutting But you said you would guarantee it? Maybe you mean "I hope" instead yeah, little trollette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 Irene. Who's bench will he be sitting on then. As as good as he is, can't see him now coming in and being another no.1 in the prem unless there is n injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irene Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 Irene. Who's bench will he be sitting on then. As as good as he is, can't see him now coming in and being another no.1 in the prem unless there is n injury That is not something I can say currently. Things have to be worked out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 That is not something I can say currently. Things have to be worked out If things need to be worked out, then it's not definite then trollette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 That is not something I can say currently. Things have to be worked out Like how you're going to try and spin yourself out of the lie you've just trapped yourself in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irene Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 Only so much I can say. I get you don't want to hear it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 Only so much I can say. I get you don't want to hear it We don't hear much if you don't say it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irene Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 We don't hear much if you don't say it either. I've said plenty and been shot down in flames and insulted so that is that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAY-Z Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 So he doesn't want to be here I presume he isn't collecting his weekly wage from us as he is obviously spending time thinking about going elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 Only so much I can say. I get you don't want to hear it But you can still guarantee he is leaving, maybe, possibly. Well, guarantee it might kind of happen yeah trollette? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 Also, irene, as you are a friend of his, is Artur happy for you to be divulging snippets about his plans for an imminent move? Surely it would be more professional of him to keep such info private? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 1st Sept will be judgement day for first half of season. Morgan is decent guy who has had promises to him broken. Do I think going on strike for a week is a good idea? No. But we all deal with situations how we choose Technically its 23:00 on the 1st September, which is also the last day of the school holidays so perhaps this forum will calm down once all the little ones have gone back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 Irene, here's a little tip for you, to save you bombarding me and the moderators with constant automated messages about posts you're reporting that disagree with you: There is a fundamental difference between what is insulting, and what is simply somebody either disagreeing or questioning what you are saying. This is a forum, a place for discussion. People will have different opinions. Many people like to base their opinions on facts - facts are things that are proven to be true and can be backed up by evidence. Forums tend to be quite insular places, where anybody new immediately arouses suspicion, especially when they come on here saying "I guarantee Boruc won't be here when the transfer window closes" without showing any evidence or even expanding on why that might be the case or where he might realistically go. So rather than constantly hitting that "report post" button for someone calling you out on something you've failed to back up, how about you provide us with some actual evidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 Also, irene, as you are a friend of his, is Artur happy for you to be divulging snippets about his plans for an imminent move? Surely it would be more professional of him to keep such info private? Not very professional allowing his friends to plaster the news all over a fans forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 Irene, here's a little tip for you, to save you bombarding me and the moderators with constant automated messages about posts you're reporting that disagree with you: There is a fundamental difference between what is insulting, and what is simply somebody either disagreeing or questioning what you are saying. This is a forum, a place for discussion. People will have different opinions. Many people like to base their opinions on facts - facts are things that are proven to be true and can be backed up by evidence. Forums tend to be quite insular places, where anybody new immediately arouses suspicion, especially when they come on here saying "I guarantee Boruc won't be here when the transfer window closes" without showing any evidence or even expanding on why that might be the case or where he might realistically go. So rather than constantly hitting that "report post" button for someone calling you out on something you've failed to back up, how about you provide us with some actual evidence? haha, well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 what an oddball! So irene, any evidence to back up your claims? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingdomCome Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 Agents are paid to do a job. How they conduct themselves is up to them. Wrong. Agent has a very specific meaning in law. The person for whom they are acting is liable for their agent's actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 (edited) Wrong. Agent has a very specific meaning in law. The person for whom they are acting is liable for their agent's actions. Quite. By very definition an Agent works on the behalf of someone, they are their representative. An agent is one who acts for, or in the place of, another, by authority from him; one entrusted with the business of another If the agent misrepresents his client that's another matter, but the client is responsible for their behaviour. Edited 13 August, 2014 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 Quite. By very definition an Agent works on the behalf of someone, they are their representative. If the agent misrepresents his client that's another matter, but the client is responsible for their behaviour. So in effect, if the agent acts unprofessionally, then indirectly so too does the player. Interesting. Rebuttal from irene? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 Is Irene actually Artur himself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 Is Irene actually Artur himself? No, not unless Artur spends all day posting on his phone from training. (Can't really imagine big Artur referring to himself as a girl either but maybe I'm just stereotyping here). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 No, not unless Artur spends all day posting on his phone from training. (Can't really imagine big Artur referring to himself as a girl either but maybe I'm just stereotyping here). He's on strike! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 Irene, here's a little tip for you, to save you bombarding me and the moderators with constant automated messages about posts you're reporting that disagree with you: There is a fundamental difference between what is insulting, and what is simply somebody either disagreeing or questioning what you are saying. This is a forum, a place for discussion. People will have different opinions. Many people like to base their opinions on facts - facts are things that are proven to be true and can be backed up by evidence. Forums tend to be quite insular places, where anybody new immediately arouses suspicion, especially when they come on here saying "I guarantee Boruc won't be here when the transfer window closes" without showing any evidence or even expanding on why that might be the case or where he might realistically go. So rather than constantly hitting that "report post" button for someone calling you out on something you've failed to back up, how about you provide us with some actual evidence? hahahaha owned by the big dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irene Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 Irene, here's a little tip for you, to save you bombarding me and the moderators with constant automated messages about posts you're reporting that disagree with you: There is a fundamental difference between what is insulting, and what is simply somebody either disagreeing or questioning what you are saying. This is a forum, a place for discussion. People will have different opinions. Many people like to base their opinions on facts - facts are things that are proven to be true and can be backed up by evidence. Forums tend to be quite insular places, where anybody new immediately arouses suspicion, especially when they come on here saying "I guarantee Boruc won't be here when the transfer window closes" without showing any evidence or even expanding on why that might be the case or where he might realistically go. So rather than constantly hitting that "report post" button for someone calling you out on something you've failed to back up, how about you provide us with some actual evidence? If you actually read the posts i reported they all contain "insulting word or words" it is not regarding my opinion being disagreed with. Obviosuly you felt the need to post this on the forum. As a supposed administrator of this forum i would have expected better. All i have done is provide an insight into the other side of things. One that is not very welcome I will take any information i know elsewhere. Do i get a refund of my five pounds though? Imagine no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 If you actually read the posts i reported they all contain "insulting word or words" it is not regarding my opinion being disagreed with. Obviosuly you felt the need to post this on the forum. As a supposed administrator of this forum i would have expected better. All i have done is provide an insight into the other side of things. One that is not very welcome I will take any information i know elsewhere. Do i get a refund of my five pounds though? Imagine no. It seems that the view outside of your own is not welcome either on that basis. It works both ways, you cannot totally dismiss the views of others and expect them to unconditionally accept your own viewpoint as definitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 I don't think she/he understands how a forum works. You won't be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 If you actually read the posts i reported they all contain "insulting word or words" it is not regarding my opinion being disagreed with. I wasted my time reading every single word of each of the posts you reported, none of which contained a single insulting word. All i have done is provide an insight into the other side of things. One that is not very welcome Where have you provided any insight? There's none that I can see, Boruc potentially being unhappy at not being first choice anymore is hardly a revelation worthy of the Paul Foot award. I will take any information i know elsewhere. Do i get a refund of my five pounds though? Imagine no. You imagine correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irene Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 It seems that the view outside of your own is not welcome either on that basis. It works both ways, you cannot totally dismiss the views of others and expect them to unconditionally accept your own viewpoint as definitive. I accept all your viewpoints and have done without "name calling" as quite a few have done in regards to myself. If i am not agreed with then that is ok with me. If you think my info is wrong then again ok with me but the childish behaviour of some i see no need for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 If you actually read the posts i reported they all contain "insulting word or words" it is not regarding my opinion being disagreed with. Obviosuly you felt the need to post this on the forum. As a supposed administrator of this forum i would have expected better. All i have done is provide an insight into the other side of things. One that is not very welcome I will take any information i know elsewhere. Do i get a refund of my five pounds though? Imagine no. What information have you provided to us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 I accept all your viewpoints and have done without "name calling" as quite a few have done in regards to myself. If i am not agreed with then that is ok with me. If you think my info is wrong then again ok with me but the childish behaviour of some i see no need for So, ignore those that you do not see as talking politely and only converse with those that are. You can block people you don't like (It's a very useful tool.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irene Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 I wasted my time reading every single word of each of the posts you reported, none of which contained a single insulting word. Where have you provided any insight? There's none that I can see, Boruc potentially being unhappy at not being first choice anymore is hardly a revelation worthy of the Paul Foot award. You imagine correctly. You dont find being refered to as a "trollette" or "stalker" or whatever else i reported as something i should find insulting? And the actual info you want me to tell you i ca not. Once Boruc is no longer a saints player i will be happy to tell you plenty about what went on within club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyRed&White Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 I am a bit disturbed with irene posts. "she" has answered ever question except those who ask if "she" is boruc himself Irene, if you are Boruc your posting is most unprofessional. If you are not then who is giving you permission to say he will not be on the bench 1st Sept particularity when you say "guaranteed" meaning fact not opinion If Boruc has given you permission to say such thinks, again that is unprofessional. If you are his agent or the like again that is unprofessional I now expect you posts will be bought to the attention of the club directors. I suggest it might be appropriate to stop posting on this thread. You are not helping the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irene Posted 13 August, 2014 Share Posted 13 August, 2014 I am a bit disturbed with irene posts. "she" has answered ever question except those who ask if "she" is boruc himself Irene, if you are Boruc your posting is most unprofessional. If you are not then who is giving you permission to say he will not be on the bench 1st Sept particularity when you say "guaranteed" meaning fact not opinion If Boruc has given you permission to say such thinks, again that is unprofessional. If you are his agent or the like again that is unprofessional I now expect you posts will be bought to the attention of the club directors. I suggest it might be appropriate to stop posting on this thread. You are not helping the situation. I am sure your club directors know exactly what is going on with everyone of their players. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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