1976_Child Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Richard Chorley has been banned from St Mary's for chucking coins at Rupert. Always thought he was a thug. Just proves the point. What sort of idiot does that at an AGM? But can someone please just remind me who this Chorley character is? Doesn't he have something to do with a splinter fringe group of shareholders/fans? Doesn't he write loads of 'open' letters to Rupert? Sad loser. Happy he has been banned from St Mary's. Doesn't matter how much you dislike duckhunter, there is a line and physical violence is not on. Bye, bye Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 just some working class **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Self promoting chairman of SiSA or something allong those lines............... a serial liar all imo of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Sad loser. Happy he has been banned from St Mary's. Doesn't matter how much you dislike duckhunter, there is a line and physical violence is not on. Perhaps you should examine the facts and not the clubs "spin" on what happened before passing judgement on his "physical violence" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 24 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 24 December, 2008 just some working class **** nothing wrong with being working class! Back bone of this country are those who are prepared to graft for low pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 24 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Perhaps you should examine the facts and not the clubs "spin" on what happened before passing judgement on his "physical violence" Ok Baj, so what are the facts - as you see them. Admittedly the first and only i have heard of the incident is on the OS but if the OS says that: a) he ran to the front and chucked coins at RL and Chief Orange Coat and b) he was evicted from the meeting room. and consequently c) he has been banned from club premises. then I am happy to accept their version of events, given that there must have been witnesses to the event. So how would you describe the events? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Perhaps you should examine the facts and not the clubs "spin" on what happened before passing judgement on his "physical violence" Too right. Ill-advised his action may have been, but nothing has convinced me that it was "violence", and I admire his passion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Would Chorley have got all this abuse if he'd slapped a custard pie in Lord Luvaduck's face? I doubt it. I think he was trying to make a serious point and I do admire his committment to the cause. The self-righteous piece on the OS about the incident sums up the rights and wrongs of the whole thing for me. I have never met Richard Chorley, so I only know him from Saints forums and I am not condoning or condemning his actions, but it does seem that some people are too far up there own ar5es to make a fair comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 (edited) Would Chorley have got all this abuse if he'd slapped a custard pie in Lord Luvaduck's face? I doubt it. I think he was trying to make a serious point and I do admire his committment to the cause. The self-righteous piece on the OS about the incident sums up the rights and wrongs of the whole thing for me. It seems to me Chorley's actions were more symbolic, 30 peices of silver and all that. If it was his intent to maim or harm his victim, why was he not arrested and charged? Lowe is using this as a good bit of PR for himself, and unfortunately Chorley has paid into his hands (excuse the pun) by his actions - an outcome he would not have wanted. One thing Chorley does do, is that he puts his money where his mouth is (again, excuse the pun). Too many people talk about doing this, that and the other and it's all a load of guff. As for being banned from SMS, is that supposed to be some sort of punishment based on the home form this season? Edited 24 December, 2008 by Johnny Bognor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 The whole debacle is just pathetic. The official site's spin on the meeting was just utterly, utterly shameful... Whther or not you like or agree with Rich, to liken his symbolic gesture to "coin throwing" is just laughable. To then make that the only point of any note is just censorship. The official site has to give a fair and balanced report on the matter and to put it as "At today's AGM, Richard Chorley, who attended the meeting as a shareholder's proxy, had to be removed from the Itchen Suite after he ran to the top table and threw a handful of coins at PLC Chairman Rupert Lowe and Senior Steward Beth Rowley. Throwing coins is regarded as a serious offence at football matches. Fans who carry out this sort of behaviour are prosecuted and if convicted receive a national football banning order for a minimum of three years and a criminal record." is very serious indeed. Should Chorley be subjected to any of the above then I, and this just my own opinion, would think long and hard about ever going to St Marys again. Not because of some misguided support of Rich, he can look after himself, but as someone who thinks the club has overreacted and then given a big brother like edited version of what happened at the AGM so as make it appear that Chorley almost assaulted Lowe. Coin throwing? Coin tossing in the general direction of more like... More than just this happened at the meeting and yet Lowe has presented this grossly edited version that makes no mention of the walk out or the views of the other shareholders. This the official Southampton FC football website. It is not Rupert Lowe's private PR site..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 at least he had the bottle to do something about his annoyance - respect to the guy for standing true to his views and doing something about it. easy to sit here and criticize Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 at least he had the bottle to do something about his annoyance - respect to the guy for standing true to his views and doing something about it. easy to sit here and criticize And people will do and not one of them would have the balls to criticise him to his face. On a personal note I can't help but think that Rich played right into Lowe's hands and that Lowe will milk this for all it's worth. On paper 30 pieces of silver may have sounded good but the reality was something very different and all too easy to twist and manipulate into something else. Should have saved them for Mike Wilde really.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 to be fair...why should anyone take coins being thrown/hurled/tossed at them... why..? if I had the power to deal with it...i fecking well would.. and what would happen if you did it on match day? you would be banned and arrested.. im sure this place would go into meltdown if lowe threw the coins in the same way AT chorley... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Throwing coins is regarded as a serious offence at football matches. Fans who carry out this sort of behaviour are prosecuted and if convicted receive a national football banning order for a minimum of three years and a criminal record." That bit does it for me, because I wasn't aware a game was going on during the AGM. It is almost as ridiculous as the website stating: "The Stadium Health & Safety Officer is to investigate alledged breaches of Health & Safety during the AGM yesterday. Recklessly waving an anonymous letter around, Mr Lowe could have inflicted paper cuts on those around him and could have taken someone's eye out". Not that I have had much respect for Lowe in the past, but the lettergate fiasco and this complete misuse of the website wipes out any modicum of respect anyone could have for the bloke. Surely even his staunchest supporters must be thinking "this guy has lost it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItchenRob Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Regarding the OS version of events I was not aware that that a football match was taking place !? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 to be fair...why should anyone take coins being thrown/hurled/tossed at them... why..? if I had the power to deal with it...i fecking well would.. and what would happen if you did it on match day? you would be banned and arrested.. im sure this place would go into meltdown if lowe threw the coins in the same way AT chorley... i imagine he poured them onto a desk, dont think a peson was the target Respect to Chorley! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 i imagine he poured them onto a desk, dont think a peson was the target Respect to Chorley! i guess you imagine wrong...even granty says they were "lobbed"... either way, stupid and if lowe did exactly the same thing..would you be saying "respect" then...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Regarding the OS version of events I was not aware that that a football match was taking place !? i think the rule applys to the "ground" rather than a match.. either way...like rupert or not, why would you put up with that behaviour... personally, i dont buy this 30 pieces of silver..i reckon he just lost it and threw/lobbed/tossed the contents of his pocket change at lowes direction.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 So the critical question is??? What happened to the money? May be enough to afford another Dutch coach to add to the staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Full credit to Chorley for actively trying to do something about our situation but I think he has been naive this time. His actions have played right into Lowe's hands. What does an outsider to the club see? They see Lowe being voted back in with 94.95% and then some bloke throwing coins at him. Makes the protests look like the lunatic fringe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Shouldn't really matter as he dosn't go to games anyway. Having said that Chuckles Chorley will no doubt be gutted about not being able to go to SMS to watch his beloved Man Yoo play.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 to be fair...why should anyone take coins being thrown/hurled/tossed at them... why..? if I had the power to deal with it...i fecking well would.. and what would happen if you did it on match day? you would be banned and arrested.. im sure this place would go into meltdown if lowe threw the coins in the same way AT chorley... And likewise I don't like the way this club has been ripped apart by Lowe, Wilde and co... If you can't differentiate between a matchday and a meeting and use the FA rulings to fit a non matchday event then you really shouldn't be out in daylight. It's using the terms of the law to fit his own agenda and using the term football ground so as to enforce the law onto Chorley is pathetic. If Chorley had chucked a few coins at me in the pub would he be banned from football? NO A gross manipulation of footballing laws and regulations... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Shouldn't really matter as he dosn't go to games anyway. Having said that Chuckles Chorley will no doubt be gutted about not being able to go to SMS to watch his beloved Man Yoo play.... I've seen Rich at loads of games at St Marys... not this season but certainly many last year.. How many do you go to? Numbers please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 physical violence is not on. probably a bit OTT but I bet any money that he just tossed the coins in front of him. At least Richard Chorley gets of his arse in trying to highlight how this club is going down the toilet instead of just talking on an internet forum ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 That bit does it for me, because I wasn't aware a game was going on during the AGM. It is almost as ridiculous as the website stating: "The Stadium Health & Safety Officer is to investigate alledged breaches of Health & Safety during the AGM yesterday. Recklessly waving an anonymous letter around, Mr Lowe could have inflicted paper cuts on those around him and could have taken someone's eye out". Not that I have had much respect for Lowe in the past, but the lettergate fiasco and this complete misuse of the website wipes out any modicum of respect anyone could have for the bloke. Surely even his staunchest supporters must be thinking "this guy has lost it" These days who can tell? All I will say is that the AGM is nothing but a game to some. Pity. It could have been used to unite the efforts of the shareholders to unite the club. Surely as a plc we can do something when it's being run by morons, cretins and charletons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 These days who can tell? All I will say is that the AGM is nothing but a game to some. Pity. It could have been used to unite the efforts of the shareholders to unite the club. Surely as a plc we can do something when it's being run by morons, cretins and charletons? But it wasn't and unfortunately the people who could have asked and forced the questions we needed answering, walked out. Unfortunately the people who should have been answering questions were either cowardly assholes hiding away with "family commitments" or brazenly enflaming the situation by baiting the opposition. From both sides of the fence it was an absolute farce... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durleyfos Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 How much did he throw at Lowelife? Can we pay Saga's wages in January with this windfall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 And likewise I don't like the way this club has been ripped apart by Lowe, Wilde and co... If you can't differentiate between a matchday and a meeting and use the FA rulings to fit a non matchday event then you really shouldn't be out in daylight. It's using the terms of the law to fit his own agenda and using the term football ground so as to enforce the law onto Chorley is pathetic. If Chorley had chucked a few coins at me in the pub would he be banned from football? NO A gross manipulation of footballing laws and regulations... no...chorley did not throw a few coins in a pub..he did it an the clubs AGM...a bit of a difference.. I ask again..what would the reaction be if low threw the coins in the same way? absolute uproar that is what.. many fans get branded as plastic for not going...at least one other plastic wont be going again I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Full credit to Chorley for actively trying to do something about our situation but I think he has been naive this time. His actions have played right into Lowe's hands. What does an outsider to the club see? They see Lowe being voted back in with 94.95% and then some bloke throwing coins at him. Makes the protests look like the lunatic fringe. yep.....crouch and co could have stayed and made lowe position not as strong as advertised...but they walked out and walked out on the average fan depending on them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 no...chorley did not throw a few coins in a pub..he did it an the clubs AGM...a bit of a difference.. I ask again..what would the reaction be if low threw the coins in the same way? absolute uproar that is what.. many fans get branded as plastic for not going...at least one other plastic wont be going again I guess Read my posts. I never said I agreed with his actions, I think he made a mistake, but manipulating FA RULES is wrong... If Lowe had thrown coins then yes the reaction would be hysterical, does that mean that manipulating FA RULES is now acceptable?? It's not.... And again, how many games do you go to? If you want to throw around the term plastic then it's only right we know how many games you attend? (Plymouth games don't count) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 there is a line and physical violence is not on. You either work for the OS or you've found your new job after escping Iraq. People that know the score would appreciate that I'm certainly no apologist for Chorley, but to paint this episode as Chorley coining Lowe is scraping the bottom of the barrel. It's cringeable that this notice has appeared on our OS and smacks more of one mans personal crusade against his critcs than anything to do with our Club. PS Just for those who like to make a mountain out of a molehill, my reference to Iraq is in no way linking the Club, it's employees, Lowe or anyone else to the murderous and undemocratic regime that operated in that country for decades and which I opposed unequivocally. It was a mere pun, and a play on the fact that Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaaf (i.e. Comical Ali) is now a by-word for Bullshi7yt propaganda being spouted by the establishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Read my posts. I never said I agreed with his actions, I think he made a mistake, but manipulating FA RULES is wrong... If Lowe had thrown coins then yes the reaction would be hysterical, does that mean that manipulating FA RULES is now acceptable?? It's not.... And again, how many games do you go to? If you want to throw around the term plastic then it's only right we know how many games you attend? (Plymouth games don't count) personally..i dont think he needs to manipulate FA rules...if I was in that position and some nob head (who have had dealings with in the past) acted in such a way at the meeting..I would have him banned too.... I have been to my faur share of games..I see you are doing your usual and turning this into a ****ssing contest....I know you have columns etc but save it mate..im clearly not as good a fan as you... oh, and why does plymouth not count..? that is a kin to saying a home game does not count for those who live in southampton.. get back on your soap box and blame the club for your personal reasons like you seem to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Bottom line is that behaviour would have got RC banned from any AGM and any premises of any company any where. It was a complete PR disaster for the anti-Lowe brigade, both interms of Chorleys actions, and the walk out. I for one (and I don't think I'm completely stupid) assumed Crouch must have voted in favour of RLs election for him to have got 95% of the vote. It's only later I realised Crouch had walked. And that for me sums up why Crouch is not fit to take back the club - I don't doubt his passion, but if passion was all it took there a 20 blokes on here who could do it. He just confirmed his lack of nous for all to see. Shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Throwing coins at someone is assault. I think he should thank himself lucky that he got away with a stadium ban. Change the location slightly and he would be in prison for Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Shot Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 But it wasn't and unfortunately the people who could have asked and forced the questions we needed answering, walked out. Unfortunately the people who should have been answering questions were either cowardly assholes hiding away with "family commitments" or brazenly enflaming the situation by baiting the opposition. From both sides of the fence it was an absolute farce... To be fair Daren - Rupert had already decreed that Anne McMenemy would have the last question - so the walkout did not stop any further business except the polling. Lowe's ridiculous anser to AM's question was the final straw for many - you had to be there mate, his behaviour and demeanour was extraordinary even by his standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Shot Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Throwing coins at someone is assault. I think he should thank himself lucky that he got away with a stadium ban. Change the location slightly and he would be in prison for Christmas. So you were there and saw him throw coins at Lowe did you? No, I thought not! I love the way people pontificate on here basing their opinions on nothing more than dubious heresay. As far as I could see (and I was there) RC walked down the aisle and went to toss some coins on the desk in front of Lowe and was immediately jumped upon by about 4 guards. I am not sure any coins actually reached Lowe - I certainly did not see any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 So you were there and saw him throw coins at Lowe did you? No, I thought not! I love the way people pontificate on here basing their opinions on nothing more than dubious heresay. As far as I could see (and I was there) RC walked down the aisle and went to toss some coins on the desk in front of Lowe and was immediately jumped upon by about 4 guards. I am not sure any coins actually reached Lowe - I certainly did not see any. not much of a difference is there....a small one but not much.. either way, that sort of behaviour from someone with 'previous' is not welcomed at such a meeting...I dont support lowe but even I would have had him ejected and banned.. I dont know what he has achieved by "tossing" coins at rupert apart from make the "lunatic fringe" claim more real... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 not much of a difference is there....a small one but not much.. either way, that sort of behaviour from someone with 'previous' is not welcomed at such a meeting...I dont support lowe but even I would have had him ejected and banned.. I dont know what he has achieved by "tossing" coins at rupert apart from make the "lunatic fringe" claim more real... TDD, surely the difference would be between them being aimed at Lowe, or at the desk in front of him. Not whether they were tossed or thrown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 TDD, surely the difference would be between them being aimed at Lowe, or at the desk in front of him. Not whether they were tossed or thrown? how the hell can you differenciate..? if lowe is sat at the desk (which i am assuming he was)....?? you cant.. either way, at any comanys AGM, this sort of behaviour is not welcome.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 I known RC since a kid and whilst he is animated at times he is also a genuinely nice bloke. I dont see eye to eye with him politically but as a person Im more than happy to say he is a friend (I dont know if h'e say the same of course!) What he did was foolish, and so I can see why he was ejected but if he is banned from football then that is wrong.I also saw him at games many times last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 how the hell can you differenciate..? if lowe is sat at the desk (which i am assuming he was)....?? you cant.. either way, at any comanys AGM, this sort of behaviour is not welcome.. I have now spoken to 6 people who were at the AGM and their views all seem to reflect each others. Chorley was making his way up to the top table with his 30 pieces of silver (pre planned according to at least 3 of those I've spoken to) when a couple of stewards blocked his path. As he couldn't make the final last few steps he tossed "as if throwing a glass of water" & "as if sowing seeds" were two comments, "in the direction of Lowe", "towards the top table". When asked if he had thrown the coins at Lowe, the unequivocal answer from all was "NO". He was then walked away, but after a further spat of shouting at Lowe (and two of them think Lowe was goading Chorley) other staff joined in and wrestled him to the floor. It was obviously a symbolic gesture, not an act of violence or agression. Enough to get you thrown out of an AGM?? I would think so. Enough to get you barred from future ones?? I think there would be a case for that. Enough to require an apology?? Possibly Enough to get its own little announcement on the OS?? Never Enough to warrant the invoking of rules used for football matches?? You're having a scooby Chorley didn't have the nous to deliver this symbolic gesture in a more sophisticated and dignified manner, but that also doesn't make him a coin thrower in the term we think of it regards football matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mundine Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Well done for throwing what he did!!! If I wasnt so far away i would have thrown much more than coins!!! Rupert is a first class tosser!!! If there were more people like Chorley that took actoin the club wouldnt be in the crap we are currently in!!!! Give the man a medal!!! You right wingers have no idea!!!! Power to the people!!!!!! Lowe must go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 It was a foolish action by a foolish man. Chorley becomes more and more the characature of the "class warrior" from decades ago and has played right into Lowe's hands. It doesn't sound like McMenemy acted brilliantly either. What right does he have to tell anyone that they are not welcome at the club? And what difference does it make if money was wasted on certain players. Every manager we have ever had (including him) has wasted an amount of money on dodgy signings. The issues we have now are beating relegation. To excuse JP as he is a "nice man" is plainly ridiculous. Nice man or not he is the manager and is responsible for the team. Perhaps these issues were covered, but I would want to know what plans Lowe and his team (including JP) have for turning things around from now until the end of the season. All we are talking about today is Chorley and the fact that the meeting was conducted very badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 I have now spoken to 6 people who were at the AGM and their views all seem to reflect each others. Chorley was making his way up to the top table with his 30 pieces of silver (pre planned according to at least 3 of those I've spoken to) when a couple of stewards blocked his path. As he couldn't make the final last few steps he tossed "as if throwing a glass of water" & "as if sowing seeds" were two comments, "in the direction of Lowe", "towards the top table". When asked if he had thrown the coins at Lowe, the unequivocal answer from all was "NO". He was then walked away, but after a further spat of shouting at Lowe (and two of them think Lowe was goading Chorley) other staff joined in and wrestled him to the floor. It was obviously a symbolic gesture, not an act of violence or agression. Enough to get you thrown out of an AGM?? I would think so. Enough to get you barred from future ones?? I think there would be a case for that. Enough to require an apology?? Possibly Enough to get its own little announcement on the OS?? Never Enough to warrant the invoking of rules used for football matches?? You're having a scooby Chorley didn't have the nous to deliver this symbolic gesture in a more sophisticated and dignified manner, but that also doesn't make him a coin thrower in the term we think of it regards football matches. Come on Steve, With Richard's track record wouldn't you say it was an incredibly stupid thing to do? However he "threw" or "lobbed" the coins he was playing right into Lowe's hands. He has effictively deflected attention away from Lowe and the plight of the club and onto him and his actions. Lowe may have a huge ego, but so does Richard and McMemeney for that matter. We could do with rid of all of these characters and have level headed people with level headed plans here instead of a bunch of melodramatic pantomime characters playing out their rolls whilst the club suffers. Frankly I am sick to death of all of them and their stupid games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Self promoting chairman of SiSA or something allong those lines............... a serial liar ? all imo of course This may be a little unfair as I don't know the guy personally, just his posts tend to make me think the worst, so the bold comment should have been a question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Come on Steve, With Richard's track record wouldn't you say it was an incredibly stupid thing to do? However he "threw" or "lobbed" the coins he was playing right into Lowe's hands. He has effictively deflected attention away from Lowe and the plight of the club and onto him and his actions. Stupid, as in what sense? I think it was stupid in that he could have done exactly the same, but in a manner that would have achieved much better publicity and not allowed Lowe to get anything from the event. It was certainly not stupid as in a violent or agressive manner, as everyone I have spoken to insists that was not in the manner that they saw it. That's my distinction on this thread. Chorley should be pulled up for the way he went about this symbolic gesture, but tthat's light years away from claiming it was violent or a physical assault and the full force of the law should be brought to bear on sich actions. Lowe may have a huge ego, but so does Richard and McMemeney for that matter. Of that I have no doubt. We could do with rid of all of these characters and have level headed people with level headed plans here instead of a bunch of melodramatic pantomime characters playing out their rolls whilst the club suffers. Frankly I am sick to death of all of them and their stupid games. It's about time you (and others) have finally clicked on to the fact that Lowe's time at the Club is spent. With him at the helm, this Club will never be united. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 from the UP post above summing up 6 witness accounts, it makes it sound similar to the type of water throwing incidents you get with politicians. (or egg throwing). definitely worthy of banning from st marys in my view. the real problem from yesterday is that the anti-lowes have come across as rabid imbeciles, and the casual fan (of which I am one), is left with the impression Lowe has the support of those that matter, and is doing his best for the club in an environment of spite and vitriol from the lunatic fringe. Most people I know think Lowe is doing the best he can in an impossible situation. Personally, all credit to Lowe for sticking around in the face of t%%%ts like mcmenemy. (who is he to say who is welcome or not at the club? 95% of the shares say Lowe has every right to be at the club and LM needs to grow up and get over himself) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Whether Lowe's time here is spent or not (and after the vote I doubt that for now) what is the alternative? Neither Wilde nor Crouch have covered themselves in glory and apart from Cowen, who esle is around right now worth a punt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Whether Lowe's time here is spent or not (and after the vote I doubt that for now) what is the alternative? Neither Wilde nor Crouch have covered themselves in glory and apart from Cowen, who esle is around right now worth a punt? What happened to all the Anthony Salz talk? I guess he has better things to do with his time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Banning him from St Mary's on matchdays is pathetic. It also deprives the club of much-needed income. He'll be just one more number added to the thousands who stay away because of the grotesque mis-management of our great football club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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