spyinthesky Posted Wednesday at 15:17 Posted Wednesday at 15:17 We have to expect that Trump and his band of cult members will detach from NATO at some stage within his remaining years and the threat of Russia invading another of the countries in their purported sphere of influence will increase. Hopefully the Ukrainians will do their utmost to keep Putin occupied. The country getting the most benefit from Trump is probably China. Meantime the cost of jet fuel will rise and adversely affect foreign travel plans. Hopefully this will mean that far fewer people will be attracted to the USA for the forthcoming World Cup. I truly hope so.
sadoldgit Posted Wednesday at 16:02 Posted Wednesday at 16:02 3 hours ago, Saint86 said: I can't see any way he gets 67% of the senate to back leaving Nato. That just isn't happening. The midterms are also coming up in November, at which point he looks set to lose control of the house and will be a lame duck president. I don’t think that Trump is too bothered about getting the approval of Congress. He has ridden roughshod over them on many occasions so far. If he wants something he has enough useful idiots in positions of power to deliver for him. I wouldn’t rule anything out. As for Vance, he may be even more problematic than Trump. We can only hope that the Democrats get their act together and put the brakes on these lunatics. 1
badgerx16 Posted Wednesday at 16:12 Posted Wednesday at 16:12 (edited) 13 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: I don’t think that Trump is too bothered about getting the approval of Congress. He has ridden roughshod over them on many occasions so far. If he wants something he has enough useful idiots in positions of power to deliver for him. I wouldn’t rule anything out. Even the Supreme Court would not back him against Congress. The Law on elections is cast in stone, that is why so much effort is being put into gerrymandering, by both sides, and why Congress, with it's current balance of power, has proven unable pass the SAVE Act - he simply cannot command the majority needed to pass the Bill. Edited Wednesday at 16:15 by badgerx16 3
sadoldgit Posted yesterday at 09:25 Posted yesterday at 09:25 (edited) 17 hours ago, badgerx16 said: Even the Supreme Court would not back him against Congress. The Law on elections is cast in stone, that is why so much effort is being put into gerrymandering, by both sides, and why Congress, with it's current balance of power, has proven unable pass the SAVE Act - he simply cannot command the majority needed to pass the Bill. He could do plenty to stop American participation in NATO without pulling out of the membership. Remember too that the President needs to get approval from Congress to go to war and that hasn’t stopped him in Iran. Edited yesterday at 09:40 by sadoldgit
whelk Posted yesterday at 10:05 Posted yesterday at 10:05 23 minutes ago, Turkish said: Where has Nic gone? Reckon Lighthouse hit him with a stick 1
tdmickey3 Posted yesterday at 10:09 Posted yesterday at 10:09 🤣 Putin ready to help resolve war in Middle East, Kremlin says Vladimir Putin is talking to regional leaders in the Middle East and Russia is ready to contribute to resolving the Iran conflict, Moscow has said. In his daily briefing with reporters, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said: "The president is continuing these contacts, and if our services are somehow required, we are, of course, ready to make our contribution to ensuring that the military situation transitions to a peaceful course as soon as possible." Peskov was responding to a question about Donald Trump's speech to the nation about the Iran war and his separate comment that he was considering pulling the US out of NATO - an alliance which Peskov said Russia viewed as "hostile". Discussing the prospects of a Russian-Arab summit, he added: "Certainly, easing tensions in the region and minimising the negative consequences of this war are only possible through negotiations, through dialogue, for which such a summit could potentially become a good platform in the future."
tdmickey3 Posted yesterday at 10:13 Posted yesterday at 10:13 31 minutes ago, Turkish said: Where has Nic gone? To a special institution for the unstable to get help
inspectorfrost Posted yesterday at 10:36 Posted yesterday at 10:36 Inevitable that Putin sees an opportunity by offering to resolve the conflict (see Syria several years ago) Iran have just stated that the Strait of Hormuz is open to any ships that aren't American/Israeli or belong to any related country. If an agreement could be reached where the Iranians let their countries' ships pass through the Strait in return for stopping the US/Israelis use any of their countries as a platform to launch attacks from. Shame Starmer caved in to Trump's noise and didn't take a leaf out of the Spaniard's books. 2
sadoldgit Posted yesterday at 11:00 Posted yesterday at 11:00 20 minutes ago, inspectorfrost said: Inevitable that Putin sees an opportunity by offering to resolve the conflict (see Syria several years ago) Iran have just stated that the Strait of Hormuz is open to any ships that aren't American/Israeli or belong to any related country. If an agreement could be reached where the Iranians let their countries' ships pass through the Strait in return for stopping the US/Israelis use any of their countries as a platform to launch attacks from. Shame Starmer caved in to Trump's noise and didn't take a leaf out of the Spaniard's books. Wasn’t the deal that the American’s could only use bases for “defensive” operations as part of protecting possible UK targets?
Turkish Posted yesterday at 11:22 Posted yesterday at 11:22 1 hour ago, whelk said: Reckon Lighthouse hit him with a stick Visited on Monday but not posted for a couple of weeks. Unless he’s training for another 5k walk I suspect we’ll see another login soon if not created already 1
badgerx16 Posted yesterday at 12:01 Posted yesterday at 12:01 (edited) 1 hour ago, inspectorfrost said: Inevitable that Putin sees an opportunity by offering to resolve the conflict (see Syria several years ago) Iran have just stated that the Strait of Hormuz is open to any ships that aren't American/Israeli or belong to any related country. If an agreement could be reached where the Iranians let their countries' ships pass through the Strait in return for stopping the US/Israelis use any of their countries as a platform to launch attacks from. Shame Starmer caved in to Trump's noise and didn't take a leaf out of the Spaniard's books. The UK imports almost all of it's oil from the US, Norway, Libya, and Nigeria. The problem is that a lot of our diesel comes from refineries in the Low Countries, which rely on imports from the Middle East. Edited yesterday at 12:07 by badgerx16 1
AlexLaw76 Posted yesterday at 14:36 Posted yesterday at 14:36 3 hours ago, sadoldgit said: Wasn’t the deal that the American’s could only use bases for “defensive” operations as part of protecting possible UK targets? Yeah, that is exactly what they are doing 😐🤣
The Kraken Posted yesterday at 14:52 Posted yesterday at 14:52 3 hours ago, Turkish said: Visited on Monday but not posted for a couple of weeks. Unless he’s training for another 5k walk I suspect we’ll see another login soon if not created already I was only chuckling to myself the other day about the whole 5K walk episode with Eddie the clown. Halcyon times.
Turkish Posted yesterday at 15:00 Posted yesterday at 15:00 (edited) 7 minutes ago, The Kraken said: I was only chuckling to myself the other day about the whole 5K walk episode with Eddie the clown. Halcyon times. Definitely the golden age. I’m hoping to see a return of Alan from Yeovil with big Chris and the rest of the road crew gang Edited yesterday at 15:00 by Turkish 2
benjii Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 7 hours ago, Turkish said: Where has Nic gone? Laughed himself to death. Or ladyboy AIDS got him. 2
badgerx16 Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago Trump talking about the important stuff in a Cabinet meeting during a war.....
whelk Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 3 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Pam Bondi has been sacked. Following Kristi Noem. Cull of the shrill fawning Bimbos 1
whelk Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 16 minutes ago, benjii said: Or ladyboy AIDS got him. You’ve never been there, no one has and no one knows what it’s like. You only go to Benidorm. Cornered loser.
spyinthesky Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 12 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Pam Bondi has been sacked. She was near the top of a truly awful group of Trump acolytes. 2
spyinthesky Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 5 hours ago, badgerx16 said: The UK imports almost all of it's oil from the US, Norway, Libya, and Nigeria. The problem is that a lot of our diesel comes from refineries in the Low Countries, which rely on imports from the Middle East. Approx 20% of the petrol, diesel and jet fuel for use in this country is refined at Fawley. There are now only 4 refineries in the UK whereas there used to be 6. A lot of ships now have to use LNG under UK regulations. The main suppliers are USA and Qatar (problematic!!)
badgerx16 Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago Kemi Badenoch says something I agree with - speaking about Trump, "if you break it, you own it..... the "special relationship" is between the UK and the US, not between Donald Trump, and Keir Starmer.......He should now not be abandoning a mess that he's made, .......it doesn't feel like there is a co-ordinated plan, ( to end the war )...." 6
benjii Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 33 minutes ago, whelk said: You’ve never been there, no one has and no one knows what it’s like. You only go to Benidorm. Cornered loser. Aha! The jokes on you, because I know all about the Pattaya ladyboys, sonny Jim! *oh, shit
whelk Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 20 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Kemi Badenoch says something I agree with - speaking about Trump, "if you break it, you own it..... the "special relationship" is between the UK and the US, not between Donald Trump, and Keir Starmer.......He should now not be abandoning a mess that he's made, .......it doesn't feel like there is a co-ordinated plan, ( to end the war )...." Assume a focus group reported back that Brits almost to a man loathe Trump and aware he is an irrational, irresponsible moron 2
badgerx16 Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 1 hour ago, whelk said: Assume a focus group reported back that Brits almost to a man loathe Trump and aware he is an irrational, irresponsible moron Presumably she now agrees that the UK should stay out of the war.
whelk Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago A sensible leader speaks 'Be serious... don't speak every day': Macron criticises Trump approach to Iran war https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cevk0e4ykwko Even Farage is being critical of Trump as well 2
inspectorfrost Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 10 hours ago, sadoldgit said: Wasn’t the deal that the American’s could only use bases for “defensive” operations as part of protecting possible UK targets? Hm, should play Trump at his own game and use this and his fictional timelines has an excuse to withdraw the support. If this committee does achieve the unblocking of the strait, maybe they should be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. . . 2
Gloucester Saint Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 11 hours ago, Turkish said: Where has Nic gone? And another poster. I think you are right, an alter ego. 2
Gloucester Saint Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 2 hours ago, whelk said: A sensible leader speaks 'Be serious... don't speak every day': Macron criticises Trump approach to Iran war https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cevk0e4ykwko Even Farage is being critical of Trump as well It’s fucked Farage’s polling and they won’t rebound. Every cloud and a silver lining… I despise Donald Trump but even I didn’t think he’d be anywhere near this bad second time around, but people did warn about the lack of guardrails which were in place last time. Biden with dementia was 10000% times better, let alone Biden without. Let alone Reagan, Obama, Bush Snr. Heck, even Bush Jr. 1
Farmer Saint Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 4 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said: And another poster. I think you are right, an alter ego. Called that a long time ago... 2
spyinthesky Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Apparently there has been secret deals between Iran & China to buy oil using yuan not the dollar. Saudi Arabia has also moved away from linking their oil sales directly to the dollar. So the petro dollar could become the petro yuan and this is likely to impact on the American economy. That said, I guess Mr Trump has this already planned for this and will blame Biden and Obama.
egg Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, spyinthesky said: Apparently there has been secret deals between Iran & China to buy oil using yuan not the dollar. Saudi Arabia has also moved away from linking their oil sales directly to the dollar. So the petro dollar could become the petro yuan and this is likely to impact on the American economy. That said, I guess Mr Trump has this already planned for this and will blame Biden and Obama. The threat to the petrodollar is one of the factors at play, and led to Iraq, Libya and Venezuela. The US will spend whatever it needs to spend to keep that going imo.
badgerx16 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) No war has ever been won by air power alone. History is littered with examples of countries where civlian resistance has stiffened in the face of bombing campaigns rather than caving in, you would think the lesson of the failure of carpet bombing North Vietnam would still resonate with the US. Why does Trump think the Iranians are any different ? Edited 2 hours ago by badgerx16
egg Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Genuine question - is he deliberately driving up oil prices? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cgj0gn36px8t?post=asset%3Ab68adc34-05e3-4008-b2dc-d1c90e553c13#post
badgerx16 Posted 56 minutes ago Posted 56 minutes ago 59 minutes ago, egg said: Genuine question - is he deliberately driving up oil prices? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cgj0gn36px8t?post=asset%3Ab68adc34-05e3-4008-b2dc-d1c90e553c13#post Given the number of senior officials he has appointed who are directly linked to the fossil fuel industries, even if he himself is not personally benefitting there are plenty around him who will be.
egg Posted 47 minutes ago Posted 47 minutes ago 5 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Given the number of senior officials he has appointed who are directly linked to the fossil fuel industries, even if he himself is not personally benefitting there are plenty around him who will be. Everything he's saying can only drive prices north. It has to be deliberate, and will increase demand for the dollar.
sadoldgit Posted 4 minutes ago Posted 4 minutes ago (edited) The Art of the Deal. The father wages war on Iran causing Iran to retaliate. His sons sell defensive military hardware to countries being attacked by Iran. Not a business model you would find on The Apprentice but I wonder if they got the idea from Catch 22? https://apnews.com/article/trump-sons-powerus-drone-interceptors-iran-missiles-1d8d858fdad5104a56e4438994093594 Edited 3 minutes ago by sadoldgit
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