Things That are Racist

[sadoldgit]

49 minutes ago, whelk said:

It is very hard to have a reasoned debate with you - great conclusion though

Why? Correct me if I am wrong, but Sir Ralph is only interested in the number of racist hate cases that end in convictions. So if 100 cases go to court and 80 end up with a conviction, that is the level of racism as far as he is concerned. There may be another 1000 cases where people have said that they have been racially abused but, for one reason or another, they haven’t made it to court. Is it unreasonable to take into account the “anecdotal” feedback on racism when looking at what is happening at ground level? Why just dismiss people’s experiences as “guff?”

It is generally accepted that the amount of sexual assaults on women is much higher than the recorded figure because many don’t report it to the police. It is the same with race hate cases.

In both events the cases that end in convictions are just the tip of the iceberg. 

I don’t expect Sir Ralph, or nic for that matter, to understand this point. You on the other hand, shouldn’t find it too hard to comprehend.
 

[hypochondriac]

1 minute ago, sadoldgit said:

Why? Correct me if I am wrong, but Sir Ralph is only interested in the number of racist hate cases that end in convictions. So if 100 cases go to court and 80 end up with a conviction, that is the level of racism as far as he is concerned. There may be another 1000 cases where people have said that they have been racially abused but, for one reason or another, they haven’t made it to court. Is it unreasonable to take into account the “anecdotal” feedback on racism when looking at what is happening at ground level? Why just dismiss people’s experiences as “guff?”

It is generally accepted that the amount of sexual assaults on women is much higher than the recorded figure because many don’t report it to the police. It is the same with race hate cases.

In both events the cases that end in convictions are just the tip of the iceberg. 

I don’t expect Sir Ralph, or nic for that matter, to understand this point. You on the other hand, shouldn’t find it too hard to comprehend.
 

Why is my anecdotal evidence of my mixed race wife receiving almost no racial abuse despite living in this country her entire life less valid than your anecdotal evidence?

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

Why is my anecdotal evidence of my mixed race wife receiving almost no racial abuse despite living in this country her entire life less valid than your anecdotal evidence?

Yours can't count because a) it's you and not him b) your example isn't being used to support a headline in the Guardian, without understanding the context and, importantly, c) your personal anecdotes are real ones. The closest SOG has personally come to a racial incident is the one he faked on here, when there were national incidents, and then blamed his wife.

 

[Turkish]

4 hours ago, whelk said:

It is very hard to have a reasoned debate with you - great conclusion though

 

hes one of those people who is always right and if you don’t agree with him or question him he gets all stroppy, angry and defensive. If you aren’t nodding along in agreement with him about how terrible everything is you’re leaving yourself open to all sorts of abuse. How many people on here has he accused of being racist/farage/robinson/hopkins fans in the past. Got to be well into double figures. The only people who can have a discussion with him are the owns who agree with him. 

[Lord Duckhunter]

18 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

That tolerance started to dissipate the day after we left the EU and things aren’t getting any better. It doesn’t help when people play it down either.

Fucking joker… 

We’re far more tolerant than most, including the French, Italians, Poles & Hungarians all of whom are in the EU….You need to get out of your white ghetto a bit more.,