Turkish Posted August 15 Author Posted August 15 39 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: I wonder how deep she will dig into her pocket to pony up some reparations? It’s sounds like she came from a very privileged background herself rather than this poor girl who had it all so tough. A family heritage of rich land owners who had multiple slaves and were then handed the equivalent of £20m in the 18th century when slavery was abolished. I actually quite like her but seems like she’s another one whose story doesn’t actually match her reality
Sarnia Cherie Posted August 15 Posted August 15 2 minutes ago, Turkish said: It’s sounds like she came from a very privileged background herself rather than this poor girl who had it all so tough. A family heritage of rich land owners who had multiple slaves and were then handed the equivalent of £20m in the 18th century when slavery was abolished. I actually quite like her but seems like she’s another one whose story doesn’t actually match her reality I don't believe in paying anything to anybody in regards to slavery. It is history. It was of its time. That's what the world was like back then. Instead of everlasting digging up the past and finding fault, let's look to the present and learn from past mistakes because there are more than enough problems these days to occupy us. 1
Turkish Posted August 15 Author Posted August 15 6 minutes ago, Sarnia Cherie said: I don't believe in paying anything to anybody in regards to slavery. It is history. It was of its time. That's what the world was like back then. Instead of everlasting digging up the past and finding fault, let's look to the present and learn from past mistakes because there are more than enough problems these days to occupy us. Especially now it turns out we don’t know who owes who for the reparations! Wonder if Lenny Henry will be knocking on her door asking for a few quid. 1
badgerx16 Posted August 15 Posted August 15 8 minutes ago, Sarnia Cherie said: I don't believe in paying anything to anybody in regards to slavery. It is history. It was of its time. That's what the world was like back then. Instead of everlasting digging up the past and finding fault, let's look to the present and learn from past mistakes because there are more than enough problems these days to occupy us. If the Brutish have to pay reparations for slavery, will the descendants of the Arab slavers, or even Italy for the Romans ? 5
egg Posted August 15 Posted August 15 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: Why does anyone get upset about something their ancestors did before they were born? Bizarre thing to get hung up about I'm not so sure. If people can feel proud of their ancestors, it follows that they can feel embarrassed or upset about their behaviour. Sure, it shouldn't impact their lives, but it's strange to say that people can't feel upset about it.
egg Posted August 15 Posted August 15 15 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: If the Brutish have to pay reparations for slavery, will the descendants of the Arab slavers, or even Italy for the Romans ? Yep. Accept the past, learn from it, move in. 1
whelk Posted August 15 Posted August 15 Just now, egg said: I'm not so sure. If people can feel proud of their ancestors, it follows that they can feel embarrassed or upset about their behaviour. Sure, it shouldn't impact their lives, but it's strange to say that people can't feel upset about it. So the fucking Germans and Japanese have a massive problem? 1
aintforever Posted August 15 Posted August 15 26 minutes ago, Sarnia Cherie said: I don't believe in paying anything to anybody in regards to slavery. It is history. It was of its time. That's what the world was like back then. Instead of everlasting digging up the past and finding fault, let's look to the present and learn from past mistakes because there are more than enough problems these days to occupy us. Totally agree. But part of that learning process must be accepting what was wrong as well. 3
egg Posted August 15 Posted August 15 (edited) 5 minutes ago, whelk said: So the fucking Germans and Japanese have a massive problem? I'm not talking generally. The point was regarding a persons direct family. If my old man's dad was an axe murdering madman, I wouldn't feel too proud about him. That his generation flattened Dresden doesn't make me want to hang my head in shame though. Edited August 15 by egg
hypochondriac Posted August 15 Posted August 15 4 minutes ago, egg said: I'm not so sure. If people can feel proud of their ancestors, it follows that they can feel embarrassed or upset about their behaviour. Sure, it shouldn't impact their lives, but it's strange to say that people can't feel upset about it. Of course someone can feel upset about it. I just think it's a waste of time and effort when you're not responsible in any way and literally nothing you can do about it. If I found out something like that about a distant ancestor I'd be interested but I'd also recognise how far removed they are from me. 3
hypochondriac Posted August 15 Posted August 15 3 minutes ago, egg said: I'm not talking generally. The point was regarding a persons direct family. If my old man's dad was an axe murdering madman, I wouldn't feel too proud about him. That his generation flattened Dresden doesn't make me want to hang my head in shame though. I think this Alex Scott thing is an old story but in her case it was her great great great great grandfather from the early 1800s. It's slightly more understandable if it's your grandad, not least because there's a fair chance you will have met and interacted with them.
Sarnia Cherie Posted August 15 Posted August 15 10 minutes ago, egg said: I'm not talking generally. The point was regarding a persons direct family. If my old man's dad was an axe murdering madman, I wouldn't feel too proud about him. That his generation flattened Dresden doesn't make me want to hang my head in shame though. They flattened plenty of our country. As John Cleese said 'You started it!' 1
iansums Posted August 15 Posted August 15 39 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: If the Brutish have to pay reparations for slavery, will the descendants of the Arab slavers, or even Italy for the Romans ? Slavery is one the oldest industries in the world, practiced all over the world, where on earth would you start with reparations? 2
iansums Posted August 15 Posted August 15 22 minutes ago, aintforever said: Totally agree. But part of that learning process must be accepting what was wrong as well. Including keeping some statues.
Turkish Posted August 15 Author Posted August 15 1 hour ago, iansums said: Including keeping some statues. Its comments like aintforevers are funny. We must accept what was wrong. Has anyone ever met a single person who has said “you know what we should do? Bring back slaves, that’ll sort things out” We can accept slavery was wrong without giving ourselves 50 lashes every day. Black people can also accept slavery was wrong without using it as an excuse for their struggles what happened 5 generations ago and demanding compensation. Wouldn’t that in itself be racist? “Youre black, your ancestors must have been slaves, you must hate your life here have £100k for your suffering.” 1
Willo of Whiteley Posted August 18 Posted August 18 Reform voters and candidates. Restore voters and candidates. What remains of the Tory party. 2
Turkish Posted August 18 Author Posted August 18 Muslims say they feel unsafe in Britain we must crush this racism against them immediately British say they feel unsafe in this country well they’re just racist they should realise diversity is our strength 😂😂😂😂 1
Turkish Posted yesterday at 10:22 Author Posted yesterday at 10:22 (edited) just the 169 arrests at the Notting Hill carnival so far. Overwhelmingly positive by all accounts. No murders so far so that’s a plus Edited yesterday at 10:23 by Turkish
AlexLaw76 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) https://news.met.police.uk/news/met-sets-out-policing-plan-ahead-of-60th-annual-notting-hill-carnival-512269 Hundreds of arrests, plenty of sex offenders in the crowds, loads of weapons seized, someone died, plenty of violence, stabbing, slashing... Just a usual, largely peaceful, carnival. Edited 4 hours ago by AlexLaw76
egg Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago On 31/08/2026 at 11:22, Turkish said: just the 169 arrests at the Notting Hill carnival so far. Overwhelmingly positive by all accounts. No murders so far so that’s a plus I've never understood why an event that's a hot bed of crime, assaults and sexual assault is so revered. 1
Farmer Saint Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 4 minutes ago, egg said: I've never understood why an event that's a hot bed of crime, assaults and sexual assault is so revered. I've been a few times, back when I was a little younger, and it's shit.
egg Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: I've been a few times, back when I was a little younger, and it's shit. I can see the appeal of living on a farm having experienced that. 3
Turkish Posted 3 hours ago Author Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, egg said: I've never understood why an event that's a hot bed of crime, assaults and sexual assault is so revered. I think we all know the reason why Egg, we all know what would happen if anyone came out and said it was anything other than a wonderful celebration of carribean culture and community.
AlexLaw76 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Turkish said: I think we all know the reason why Egg, we all know what would happen if anyone came out and said it was anything other than a wonderful celebration of carribean culture and community. Imagine the comments from the great and good if there are something 12 arrests at the Saints v Pompey game, or the Millwall v West Ham
Turkish Posted 3 hours ago Author Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Imagine the comments from the great and good if there are something 12 arrests at the Saints v Pompey game, or the Millwall v West Ham https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/notting-hill-carnival-death-man-canal-met-police-arrests-b1295282.html 636 arrests was the final number, 7 convicted sex offenders arrested, they also found weapons including a hand gun, but the police said it went by without major incident so all is good. Looking forward to next year. 1
Gloucester Saint Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Swimming https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx27vxkpdz1o
Farmer Saint Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 48 minutes ago, Turkish said: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/notting-hill-carnival-death-man-canal-met-police-arrests-b1295282.html 636 arrests was the final number, 7 convicted sex offenders arrested, they also found weapons including a hand gun, but the police said it went by without major incident so all is good. Looking forward to next year. It's ridiculous.
egg Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, Turkish said: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/notting-hill-carnival-death-man-canal-met-police-arrests-b1295282.html 636 arrests was the final number, 7 convicted sex offenders arrested, they also found weapons including a hand gun, but the police said it went by without major incident so all is good. Looking forward to next year. Jesus wept. That event gets live updates on the BBC website as per the Wimbledon final. They omit the stabbings, sexual assets, etc of course. Horrible event.
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