AlexLaw76 Posted Sunday at 14:12 Posted Sunday at 14:12 (edited) On 27/06/2026 at 10:46, Turkish said: There is a big difference between a new housing estate being built and 1500 immigrants being dumped in the middle of nowhere where! Once the military bases have reached capacity (and legal people are trying to exclude the use of ex military sites as they are deemed not good enough), available Service Homes will be used. To offer support (ie, safety) to Service families, Military police patrols will be stepped up in the neighbourhoods, along with the provision of 'military cohesion officers'. In short, plans are being spun up, under the umbrella of diversity and pink and fluffy wording, for service personnel to be more visible in service family areas to protect the women and the kids. what makes it even more tragic, planned works to improve currently used service family accommodation (ie, remove mould etc) is being postponed in order to fully refurbish properties to be used by illegal migrants who have yet to chuck the ID in the Channel. Got to love this country. Edited Sunday at 19:04 by AlexLaw76
Challenger Posted Sunday at 15:49 Posted Sunday at 15:49 (edited) There's many people in this country that are pig sick of this " problem " but conversely many ( as portrayed in the previous photos) that fully embrace welcoming all to come and stay. This latter group should have no problem financially contributing more in order to house and feed these incomers and contribute to any subsequent legal costs, whilst those against pay nowt. Problem sorted. Edited Sunday at 15:55 by Challenger 5
Turkish Posted Sunday at 16:27 Posted Sunday at 16:27 2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: Once the military bases have reached capacity (and legal people are trying to exclude the use of ex military sites as they are deemed not good enough), available Service Homes will be used. To offer support (ie, safety) to Service families, Military police patrols will be stepped up in the neighbourhoods, along with the provision of 'military cohesion officers'. In short, plans are being spun up, under the umbrella of diversity and pink and fluffy wording, for service personnel to be more visible in service family areas to protect the women and the kids. what makes it even more tragic, panned works to improve currently used service family accommodation (ie, remove mould etc) is being postponed in order to fully refurbish properties to be used by illegal migrants who have yet to chuck the ID in the Channel. Got to love this country. Why do they need to do that? It’s only people who don’t want brown people here that think they need extra security. More institutional racism alive and well I see
egg Posted Sunday at 17:19 Posted Sunday at 17:19 1 hour ago, Challenger said: There's many people in this country that are pig sick of this " problem " but conversely many ( as portrayed in the previous photos) that fully embrace welcoming all to come and stay. This latter group should have no problem financially contributing more in order to house and feed these incomers and contribute to any subsequent legal costs, whilst those against pay nowt. Problem sorted. I'm not sure why anyone thinks this is a simple binary choice between turn back the boats or welcome everyone. Most people, I suspect, acknowledge that illegal immigration needs sorting but that there are genuine asylum seekers, don't "embrace" all and sundry being welcomed, but accept that the people who arrive here actually need to be accommodated until there's a decision made about whether they can stay or must leave. I'll ask you the question that has been ducked up there... where do we accommodate these people - hotels, HMO's, streets/woods/fields, shanty towns, detention centres? The only solution is to make us less attractive to the greedy, urgently sort out a process to deal with claims and appropriate appeals sharpish, and accommodate people as cost effectively and safely as possible until they're processed. 4
swannymere Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago We were manipulated to blame each other rather than the real culprits; the super rich. 1
Whitey Grandad Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 9 hours ago, swannymere said: We were manipulated to blame each other rather than the real culprits; the super rich. There's a reason that they got rich. 1
badgerx16 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: There's a reason that they got rich. There are many reasons; Some inherited wealth as descendants of invaders who seized land Some worked extremely hard Some invested and made the correct/lucky choices when playing the markets Some played close to illegality and fraud, but got away with it Some are simply bullshitting snake oil salesmen 3
Challenger Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, badgerx16 said: There are many reasons; Some inherited wealth as descendants of invaders who seized land Some worked extremely hard Some invested and made the correct/lucky choices when playing the markets Some played close to illegality and fraud, but got away with it Some are simply bullshitting snake oil salesmen An idle waster that I used to know managed it with a scratchcard.
Osvaldorama Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Enjoy work today everyone! At least our money is going to a good cause:
Sir Ralph Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, Osvaldorama said: Enjoy work today everyone! At least our money is going to a good cause: Mental.
Turkish Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, Osvaldorama said: Enjoy work today everyone! At least our money is going to a good cause: 250k is a relatively low price for a new build house, its certainly toward the bottom end of the market so if the local residents cannot afford them perhaps they should have worked harder to get jobs where they could. That said I think it's marvelous that the people of Shropshire can welcome Asylum seekers to their area with the authorities giving them wonderful, new homes to enjoy their stay in comfort. Refugees are most definitely welcome there!! 2 1
Challenger Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, Osvaldorama said: Enjoy work today everyone! At least our money is going to a good cause: Stop moaning, this country has a reputation as the world's soft touch to maintain. 1
Weston Super Saint Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Challenger said: Stop moaning, this country has a reputation as the world's soft touch to maintain. And doing a fine job! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2wl6ynn2no Quote The ringleader of a notorious Rochdale grooming gang is set to be released from jail this week and cannot be deported, his victims have been told. Stripped of his British Nationality but we can't deport him because Pakistan don't want him back 🤣
Turkish Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 11 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: And doing a fine job! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2wl6ynn2no Stripped of his British Nationality but we can't deport him because Pakistan don't want him back 🤣 After being rehabilitated by our first class prison system then it's only right he be allowed his liberty back after serving his sentence. With the things he last learnt and the punishment he has recieved i'm sure he's looking forward to rebuilding his life the support of his family and local community. Im sure he'll gone on to become a fine upstanding member of the Rochdale community, he has paid for his sins, his god has forgiven him and so should we.
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 3 hours ago, Osvaldorama said: Enjoy work today everyone! At least our money is going to a good cause: It's so unfair. The asylum seekers put in those houses are going to be really upset, when they see Buckingham Palace being given to other asylum seekers, after it's refurbished.
Sheaf Saint Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 3 hours ago, Osvaldorama said: Enjoy work today everyone! At least our money is going to a good cause: Nobody is being 'given' anything. The properties were sat empty and have been acquired on a lease by Serco to be used as dispersed accommodation (which is cheaper than using hotels) to temporarily house immigrants while their asylum claims are processed. If their claim is successful they will have to vacate the property within 28 days and find their own private or social housing, and if not then they will be removed to a detention centre pending deportation.
Weston Super Saint Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: Nobody is being 'given' anything. The properties were sat empty and have been acquired on a lease by Serco to be used as dispersed accommodation (which is cheaper than using hotels) to temporarily house immigrants while their asylum claims are processed. If their claim is successful they will have to vacate the property within 28 days and find their own private or social housing, and if not then they will be removed to a detention centre pending deportation. And pay back up to £10k.... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cddlgqlm7q2o Quote People granted asylum in the UK face having to pay back around £10,000 towards the cost of their accommodation and support once they start earning, under government plans. The new measures, which are part of the Immigration and Asylum Bill, are aimed at recovering costs from all adults with sufficient funds. 1
Lord Duckhunter Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: to temporarily house immigrants while their asylum claims are processed. If their claim is successful they will have to vacate the property within 28 days and find their own private or social housing, and if not then they will be removed to a detention centre pending deportation. They should be kept in a detention centre whilst their claims are processed. 6
egg Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 4 hours ago, Osvaldorama said: Enjoy work today everyone! At least our money is going to a good cause: I'll ask again...where do we accommodate these people - hotels, HMO's, streets/woods/fields, shanty towns, detention centres?
Sheaf Saint Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 24 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: They should be kept in a detention centre whilst their claims are processed. Putting aside the legal infeasibility of that for a moment (you can't indefinitely detain someone simply for claiming asylum), the cost of it would be astronomical compared to the cost of using dispersed accommodation. 1
egg Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 28 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: They should be kept in a detention centre whilst their claims are processed. Nice to see someone addressing the issue. And yep, wherever possible, that's the answer for me. Where not possible (ie no space), then the cheapest option.
egg Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: Putting aside the legal infeasibility of that for a moment (you can't indefinitely detain someone simply for claiming asylum), the cost of it would be astronomical compared to the cost of using dispersed accommodation. Although I like the idea of the cheapest option, I prefer a less attractive option. A detention centre, pending processing, isn't attractive and gives safety to people seeking that. 1
AlexLaw76 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) Detention centre, removed of/when denied, let whoever appeal from another country. remove the constant stream of freebies, clamp down on the unlimited number of vape shops, barbers and deliveries drivers. Immediately raise the bar required to gain asylum, and deport those granted to stay should they break the law. Edited 1 hour ago by AlexLaw76 2
Badger Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said: They should be kept in a detention centre whilst their claims are processed. Far too much common sense for that to catch on. 1
Badger Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 46 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Detention centre, removed of/when denied, let whoever appeal from another country. remove the constant stream of freebies, clamp down on the unlimited number of vape shops, barbers and deliveries drivers. Immediately raise the bar required to gain asylum, and deport those granted to stay should they break the law. As long as there is state funded legal aid they’ll be a whole appeals industry to stretch things out.
Osvaldorama Posted 18 minutes ago Posted 18 minutes ago 2 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said: And pay back up to £10k.... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cddlgqlm7q2o Yeah because I’m sure they’re gonna pay that back and not disappear into the wind 😂
Osvaldorama Posted 16 minutes ago Posted 16 minutes ago 1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said: Detention centre, removed of/when denied, let whoever appeal from another country. remove the constant stream of freebies, clamp down on the unlimited number of vape shops, barbers and deliveries drivers. Immediately raise the bar required to gain asylum, and deport those granted to stay should they break the law. Too much common sense there instead they’ll spend as much as they physically can on housing, taxis, medical care, dental care. Meanwhile all of our bills and taxes are soaring. Genuinely not sure how much more of this shit I can take. I don’t understand how there’s not more protests & trouble tbh.
Turkish Posted 4 minutes ago Posted 4 minutes ago 9 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said: Too much common sense there instead they’ll spend as much as they physically can on housing, taxis, medical care, dental care. Meanwhile all of our bills and taxes are soaring. Genuinely not sure how much more of this shit I can take. I don’t understand how there’s not more protests & trouble tbh. I like paying tax. When I see my P60 every year then do a tax return and always have to pay more as I sip an espresso made from premium beans out of an Italian copper cup made in an expensive coffee machine I’m pleased as I’m giving to the greater good to help others more in need than me.
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