Israel

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2 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Is one of those requirements to remove the proscribed organisation from Government?

Surely The governance of a state is different to recognising the state itself?

It makes no sense to have an official policy of supporting a 2 state solution, but only recognise 1 state. That's a contradiction. 

It's possible to address both issues: we recognise the Palestinians right to statehood, and recognise the West Bank (without settlements)/East Jerusalem/Gaza as the Palestinian state, but do not agree with it's right to self governance in Gaza whilst there is an armed and ruling Hamas presence. 

It's academic though as the US will never get on board, and Israeli will continue to tell the world in one breath that they're fighting Hamas, but in the next breath say that they can't live next door to Palestinians and do all they can to force all of them out of a decimated land. 

[Gloucester Saint]

2 hours ago, egg said:

Surely The governance of a state is different to recognising the state itself?

It makes no sense to have an official policy of supporting a 2 state solution, but only recognise 1 state. That's a contradiction. 

It's possible to address both issues: we recognise the Palestinians right to statehood, and recognise the West Bank (without settlements)/East Jerusalem/Gaza as the Palestinian state, but do not agree with it's right to self governance in Gaza whilst there is an armed and ruling Hamas presence. 

It's academic though as the US will never get on board, and Israeli will continue to tell the world in one breath that they're fighting Hamas, but in the next breath say that they can't live next door to Palestinians and do all they can to force all of them out of a decimated land. 

Quite, and the headlines in the Telegraph and Mail today are pathetic. I’d have more respect, albeit strongly disagree, for their editors if they just said what they really want which is ethnic cleansing in Gaza. Those two are well out of lockstep with the British public.

Arab nations are putting a lot of pressure on the Palestinians to ditch Hamas and Iran if they want rebuilding help and the Palestinians badly need to start making some better choices. 

Edited 22 hours ago by Gloucester Saint
Arab, not Aran

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Trump now suggesting that Canada supporting a Palestinian state threatens a US/Canada trade deal. Wow. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c2lkp8rlenxt?post=asset%3A14d36e90-1299-4ca3-b4fd-219f7261b956#post

If Hamas are taken out of the equation, what reasonable objection can there be to a Palestinian state? 

[badgerx16]

58 minutes ago, egg said:

Trump now suggesting that Canada supporting a Palestinian state threatens a US/Canada trade deal. Wow. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c2lkp8rlenxt?post=asset%3A14d36e90-1299-4ca3-b4fd-219f7261b956#post

If Hamas are taken out of the equation, what reasonable objection can there be to a Palestinian state? 

Trump is a cunt. 

 

That is all.

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1 minute ago, badgerx16 said:

Trump is a cunt. 

 

That is all.

First part, absolutely. 

Second part, no. That is not all.