The Starmer Years - Can The New Broom Sweep Clean?

[Gloucester Saint]

2 hours ago, rooney said:

I can remember when Harold Wilson found a safe labour seat for Patrick Walker as he wanted him for Foreign Secretary, and the voters did not elect him.

Only a 5k majority last time, far from certain I agree.

Burnham is popular up there though and suspect he would win.

His comments about the economy worry me as much as Farage, Tice and Polanski, but he’s bound to appeal to Labour’s core and if they win much of that back, they might end up as the largest party in a 5-way race because the wheels are starting to come off for Farage.

Shit for the country but that’s been true for 10 years now. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

2 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Only a 5k majority last time, far from certain I agree.

Burnham is popular up there though and suspect he would win.

His comments about the economy worry me as much as Farage, Tice and Polanski, but he’s bound to appeal to Labour’s core and if they win much of that back, they might end up as the largest party in a 5-way race because the wheels are starting to come off for Farage.

Shit for the country but that’s been true for 10 years now. 

Picking up on your worries about the economy: It took a flexible centrist to get them into office.

Once there, due to the size of the majority, there were still large blocks of interest in areas on the left too. 

This is just a takeover of the electable part by the unelectable part (although there are even more unelectable parts still in there)

As you say, Burnham may attract a core support. And certainly the unions and left. If he gets to implement them all, it's going to cost. They didn't say much before getting into office. But one thing they repeated was that everything had been coated.

Throwing that out the window is going to leave them back in the wilderness again. 

For balance, a reform person praised Burnham for reaching out to hear different views. He was complimentary about him having values that made the contest with reform good for politics.

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The markets are not liking the idea of Burnham. Pound and FTSE down, and gilts up to 2008 levels, ie worse than Truss levels. Not ideal. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czr2pl5lj84o

[iansums]

4 minutes ago, egg said:

The markets are not liking the idea of Burnham. Pound and FTSE down, and gilts up to 2008 levels, ie worse than Truss levels. Not ideal. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czr2pl5lj84o

Burnham comes across very well and seems to have some charisma, unlike Starmer. I do though worry about his economic policies and perhaps most worrying of all, he wears a T-shirt with a jacket, horrible look.

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Just now, iansums said:

Burnham comes across very well and seems to have some charisma, unlike Starmer. I do though worry about his economic policies and perhaps most worrying of all, he wears a T-shirt with a jacket, horrible look.

He comes across as a Gallagher who couldn't make the band to me, so had a crack at politics instead. I don't see an appeal far beyond his own doorstep, and I share your concern about economic policy.