AlexLaw76 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: While I get your point, it's a bit disingenuous to call him a glorified councillor. You're aware he did used to be an MP, right? At the very least he's less robotic than Starmer. I once visited the HoC public gallery and watched him debate with Michael Gove about the bill to close the Sure Start centres. He came across very well and showed Gove up for the pompous prick that he is. I thought he would have been a good choice for Leader when Corbyn resigned. all well and good that he might have something more about him than a wet paper bag, but we are going to get even MORE labour. Higher taxes, more benefits, more support for illegal immigrants, more net zero..... He will probably do well to last the 3 years, let alone beyond it 1
Lord Duckhunter Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 30 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Burnham will have a very difficult time trying to convince the parliamentary labour party that the only way to meaningfully improve things you will have to start with a bit more economic prudence. His hands are tied by their ridiculous manifesto. They went into an election they were absolutely guaranteed to win, with the most timid un radical manifesto you could ever imagine. How can you spout a load of stuff about “change” and then be as radical as the Tory Pinko’s. If they wanted to do labour things and change the country they should have put it in there. It may have cost them 30 or 40 seats, but fuck me they still would have had a decent majority. If “Andy” tries to do anything other than tinker around the edges, the markets will react & his perceived lack of a mandate will be like a millstone round his neck. He’ll become very unpopular very quickly. If I was advising him, id tell him to go to the people in early autumn, put his change agenda to them. He’ll probably win with a significantly reduced majority, but thats the key word, “majority”. Unless he’s a once in a generation politician who can like Mrs Thatcher transform themselves in office and use his personality to impose himself, he will need a radical mandate. Nothing I’ve seen in his past makes me think he’s anything but a plodder, who has risen to the top due to the lack of any alternative talent the party will accept. As for Starmer, he was clearly out of his depth. But he was chosen as the new Kinnock, supposed to transform the party into something that could win elections. He would lose one, but eat into the Tory majority , ready for the next leader to take them to the promised land (and it wouldn’t have been Andy “King of the North” Burnham either). Unfortunately for him, the Tories were so bad he actually won. He was given a very poor hand and preceded to fuck it right up, whilst blaming everyone else. A horrendous PM, morally questionable , with the charisma of a fucking plank. Good riddance. Edited 7 hours ago by Lord Duckhunter 1
egg Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 38 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: While I get your point, it's a bit disingenuous to call him a glorified councillor. You're aware he did used to be an MP, right? At the very least he's less robotic than Starmer. I once visited the HoC public gallery and watched him debate with Michael Gove about the bill to close the Sure Start centres. He came across very well and showed Gove up for the pompous prick that he is. I thought he would have been a good choice for Leader when Corbyn resigned. Of course I'm aware he was an MP. The point is that he hasn't been for a while, and however you cut, a mayor is a glorified councillor. I'm not doubting that he has something about him, but there's no doubt that if he's, essentially, coronated by the party, he's got the PM role without fighting a competition either within his party or the public.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Surely everyone, left, right, black, white, commies, pinkos, Far Right, hard left, Romney Marshers can agree on one thing. Steve Bray needs a fucking good hiding…. 1
AlexLaw76 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Look at the date...weird how him and Big Ange has radically changed their tone. 2
Sarnia Cherie Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Andy Burnham seems the best prospect when you look at who else might be keen on running in the leadership race. The thought of Wes Streeting, Ed Milliband and David Lammy fills me with dread but that changes to horror at the prospect of Angela Rayner or Rachel Reeves. We shall have to wait and see. It all seems like rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic.
Gloucester Saint Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Surely everyone, left, right, black, white, commies, pinkos, Far Right, hard left, Romney Marshers can agree on one thing. Steve Bray needs a fucking good hiding…. What did he do for a living pre-referendum? Only 56 now.
Farmer Saint Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 2 hours ago, whelk said: Unfortunately any pretence at you understanding economics has long gone. Tell us about inflation measure -lol It's interesting - he seems to have married the traits of being both an idiot AND a liar. He really does remind me of another couple of posters that are conspicuous by their absence. 2
AlexLaw76 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Sarnia Cherie said: Andy Burnham seems the best prospect when you look at who else might be keen on running in the leadership race. The thought of Wes Streeting, Ed Milliband and David Lammy fills me with dread but that changes to horror at the prospect of Angela Rayner or Rachel Reeves. We shall have to wait and see. It all seems like rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic. Who do you think he is going to give the top jobs to?
hypochondriac Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago (edited) Let's not forget Lord Alli in all this. Who will he give his spare wardrobe of clothes to now? Edited 6 hours ago by hypochondriac
egg Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 47 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Who do you think he is going to give the top jobs to? It'll be a tombola of the above. Dunno why, but I see Streeting getting Chancellor, Reeves Home Secretary, Ange Health.
whelk Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, egg said: and however you cut, a mayor is a glorified councillor. It really isn’t 1
whelk Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 15 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Let's not forget Lord Alli in all this. Who will he give his spare wardrobe of clothes to now? You and others can rejoice now, your woes linked to Starmer can be banished. 1
hypochondriac Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 2 minutes ago, whelk said: You and others can rejoice now, your woes linked to Starmer can be banished. Not at all. You can celebrate the removal of a terrible prime minister whilst also being mindful of what is to come. Both can be true. We didn't get much of that when Starmer was elected. I'm sure I don't have to remind you of the reactions from mainstream media and news personalities about adults in the room and the quiet being nice. Edited 5 hours ago by hypochondriac
tdmickey3 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 26 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Let's not forget Lord Alli in all this. Who will he give his spare wardrobe of clothes to now? Do you reckon Starmer he had the flat expensively redecorated while he was in no10?
whelk Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 6 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Not at all. You can celebrate the removal of a terrible prime minister whilst also being mindful of what is to come. Both can be true. We didn't get much of that when Starmer was elected. I'm sure I don't have to remind you of the reactions from mainstream media and news personalities about adults in the room and the quiet being nice. We are an angry nation who need scapegoats. Starmer was weak and won over no-one which should be a cautionary tail, although surprised it was over so quick though but that’s politics. Fear any incumbent of any party is going to get the same though if PM 1
Sir Ralph Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 5 hours ago, Osvaldorama said: Give it a rest. I’m not answering your low IQ questions and it’s getting boring now Well done - best ignored. Edited 5 hours ago by Sir Ralph
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 4 minutes ago, whelk said: We are an angry nation who need scapegoats. We are not! Just the sort of thing a sea snail would say which is why we're better off without....oh.... 7 minutes ago, whelk said: Starmer was weak and won over no-one which should be a cautionary tail, although surprised it was over so quick though but that’s politics. Fear any incumbent of any party is going to get the same though if PM That awkward moment in cabinet, where you're sitting in the chair of the person just back stabbed, looking at all the people who were responsible for it, and pretending it couldn't happen again.
whelk Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said: Well done - best ignored. He can’t go round talking about IQs, he’s hardly in a position to judge 1
Farmer Saint Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 8 minutes ago, whelk said: He can’t go round talking about IQs, he’s hardly in a position to judge Looks like he's logged into his other account. 1
badgerx16 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, egg said: ...., however you cut, a mayor is a glorified councillor.. At the District and Borough level perhaps, but regional Mayors are completely different, probably more power than any non-Cabinet MP. 2
Sir Ralph Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) Starmer wasn’t a great PM (I didn’t like him) but he was also only as good as his party and the MPs on the left who forced his hand on certain matters. I would have preferred he stayed rather than the alternative which will be worse. The left of the party have now got their own way. I anticipate greater levels of disgruntlement soon. Edited 5 hours ago by Sir Ralph
hypochondriac Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 28 minutes ago, whelk said: We are an angry nation who need scapegoats. Starmer was weak and won over no-one which should be a cautionary tail, although surprised it was over so quick though but that’s politics. Fear any incumbent of any party is going to get the same though if PM Quite possibly. Any choices are going to piss off someone. It just so happened that a lot of the choices that Starmer made were ones I disagreed with and also he never even bothered trying to sell what he was trying to do or have some narrative that people could agree with. Many of his policies seemed totally random, reactionary and poorly thought through which is why he had so many uturns. Add to that his authoritarian streak and having an air of superiority whilst being rather poor and I can see why people had enough of him so quickly.
Sarnia Cherie Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said: Who do you think he is going to give the top jobs to? I hope he gets rid of Rachel Reeves. Not sure who would take her place but a chimpanzee with an abacus could do a better job. Wes Streeting may get something. Always a good idea to keep your prospective enemies close. I would like to see John Healy come back as Minister for Defence again. He comes across as knowing exactly what is need for our armed forces. He is a rare thing in politics. Someone respected and liked across all parties.
egg Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 18 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: At the District and Borough level perhaps, but regional Mayors are completely different, probably more power than any non-Cabinet MP. Yeah, I know, tongue was somewhat in cheek. That said, from Mayor, to PM is quite the leap, and to get that gig without the public understanding what he's about and/or intends, does not sit comfortably with me.
warsash saint Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, Sarnia Cherie said: I hope he gets rid of Rachel Reeves. Not sure who would take her place but a chimpanzee with an abacus could do a better job. Would be interested to know, in your view, what Reeves has done disastrously wrong?? Edited 4 hours ago by warsash saint 1
whelk Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 6 minutes ago, warsash saint said: Would be interested to know, in your view, what Reeves has done disastrously wrong?? I know someone who works closely with her and I trust their judgment. Frighteningly how a label like Rachel from accounts and odd sounding speech means people think she is stupid. She clearly isn’t 3
Gloucester Saint Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 13 minutes ago, warsash saint said: Would be interested to know, in your view, what Reeves has done disastrously wrong?? The NI increase being in the employers column was daft, and the CV stuff but anyone saying she’s been disastrous is indulging in hyperbole. The markets like her, look how a few sobs in the HoC made the stock market fall sharply. She’s having to make very tough decisions, as Jeremy Hunt, another quality CoE after the steaming pile of shit Kwarteng and Truss left him to clear up, did and got constant flak from the ERG and Daily Mail wankers who cheered Kwarteng and Truss in the first place. Edited 4 hours ago by Gloucester Saint
hypochondriac Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) Anyone want a go at ranking 21st century PMs? Should be quite interesting I would have thought. All pretty bad by the way but some worse than others: 1 Sunak 2 Cameron 3 Brown 4 May 5 Starmer 6 Johnson 7 Blair 8 Truss Edited 4 hours ago by hypochondriac
revolution saint Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 30 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said: Starmer wasn’t a great PM (I didn’t like him) but he was also only as good as his party and the MPs on the left who forced his hand on certain matters. I would have preferred he stayed rather than the alternative which will be worse. The left of the party have now got their own way. I anticipate greater levels of disgruntlement soon. I'm not sure Burnham is the darling of the left. As a minister he served under the New Labour banner and from recollection his last two attempts to become labour leader were hindered by that New Labour association. In fact, I don't even think that Starmer going is the result of anything particularly ideological within the labour party.
warsash saint Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, hypochondriac said: Anyone want a go at ranking 21st century PMs? Should be quite interesting I would have thought. All pretty bad by the way but some worse than others: 1 Sunak 2 Cameron 3 Brown 4 May 5 Starmer 6 Johnson 7 Blair 8 Truss Johnson only at number 6 🤣
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Anyone want a go at ranking 21st century PMs? Should be quite interesting I would have thought. All pretty bad by the way but some worse than others: 1 Sunak 2 Cameron 3 Brown 4 May 5 Starmer 6 Johnson 7 Blair 8 Truss 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 A Lettuce 9 Truss
Osvaldorama Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 4 hours ago, benjii said: Yes. This shows the lethal combination of morons, social media and influential liars. The man covered up the rape gang inquiry He covered up for a known friend of a human trafficking pedophile in mandelson And yet people are morons for disliking him? 😂 1
badgerx16 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 4 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Anyone want a go at ranking 21st century PMs? Should be quite interesting I would have thought. All pretty bad by the way but some worse than others: 1 Sunak 2 Cameron 3 Brown 4 May 5 Starmer 6 Johnson 7 Blair 8 Truss 1 2 3 Blair May 4 Sunak 5 Brown Starmer Cameron 6 7 Johnson 8 Truss
hypochondriac Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 6 minutes ago, warsash saint said: Johnson only at number 6 🤣 Would you put him below Truss ?
hypochondriac Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 4 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: 1 2 3 Blair May 4 Sunak 5 Brown Starmer Cameron 6 7 Johnson 8 Truss Come on be brave and rank them properly. 1
hypochondriac Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said: The man covered up the rape gang inquiry He covered up for a known friend of a human trafficking pedophile in mandelson And yet people are morons for disliking him? 😂 I didn't like Starmer at all but he did none of those things. 3
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Burnham sworn in...started the headline. That was fast work, I thought. But that's just him becoming a MP. The Starmers have to hand their No 10 door pass by 12 tomorrow though.
Gloucester Saint Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 20 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Anyone want a go at ranking 21st century PMs? Should be quite interesting I would have thought. All pretty bad by the way but some worse than others: 1 Sunak 2 Cameron 3 Brown 4 May 5 Starmer 6 Johnson 7 Blair 8 Truss From best to worst Blair Cameron Sunak May Brown Starmer Johnson Truss 1
hypochondriac Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Just now, Gloucester Saint said: From best to worst Blair Cameron Sunak May Brown Starmer Johnson Truss Well done for doing it properly. Yours is pretty much what I expected most on here to answer although maybe Starmer slightly higher. 1
Osvaldorama Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 10 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: I didn't like Starmer at all but he did none of those things. He appointed a known associate of Jeffrey Epstein. More than that - he actively pushed it through against the advice of those in the security service That is a fact.
badgerx16 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 24 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: 1 2 3 Blair May 4 Sunak 5 Brown Starmer Cameron 6 7 Johnson 8 Truss 19 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Come on be brave and rank them properly. 1 Blair 2 May 3 Sunak 4 Brown 5 Starmer 6 Cameron 7 Johnson 8 Truss 1
revolution saint Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said: From best to worst Blair Cameron Sunak May Brown Starmer Johnson Truss Personally I'd have Cameron a lot further down the list. Wouldn't have had Brexit without him.
Osvaldorama Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Starmer’s achievements (in no particular order): Chagos Island “deal” Digital ID Ignoring Rhianna's mum (her daughter stabbed 20+ times) King's speech containing policies *nobody voted for* £200K a month on foreign trips (45 in 22 months/never here) Biggest electoral wipeout in history Factories closing due to Net Zero insanity Bizarrely, bringing previous Labour failures back (Brown/Harman) Attempted to cancel local elections (knew they would be hammered) *Bringing previous Labour failures back (Brown/Harman)* £1bn “reset with EU” when they sell us £100bn more than we sell them Whipped MPs to become accomplices in his cover-up £660m to French to do nothing Undisclosed Palantir meeting with Mandelson Constantly fibbing to the house Shoplifting free-for-all (Greggs hiding sandwiches) Buying votes lifting 2-child benefit cap (Buying votes) Freezing pensioners as they don't vote Labour Employers NI hike/con trick Letting 438 prisoners out by “error” Lied about Durham party (COVID) McSweeney's convenient mobile phone theft Flippant "To us, he's just Peter" comment Ricky Jones cleared after incitement Imprisoned a mother for a tweet Sue Gray debacle Lord Alli buying his wife's clothes Appointing Hermer/Powell without security clearance Private schools closing due to VAT attack Rayner tax fiddling probe COVID broadcast from Lord Alli's flat (weird) Most expensive electricity in world Killing babies/abortion law Damage USA relationship/idiotic ban on use of bases Assisted suicide (pensioners don’t vote Labour) 100,000 extra in state schools from independents Reeves blubbing in commons Frightening Open AI £34bn investment off Cabinet £22k Taylor Swift tickets Reeves rental breach Labour together - smearing journalists Donors fast-tracked to jobs Nick Brown see no evil hear no evil Labour MP cavorting with TWO sub captains Reynolds, the fake solicitor Louise "fingers" Haigh, the mobile thief Halting North Sea oil licenses (£17bn lost) Dan Norris, rape charges Killing off hospitality/pubs Shovelling £billions to Ukraine (not in NATO) Secret republican/anti-monarchist Halting Chagossian food supplies (boats he will stop) Lammy taxi-ride lies/leaving trash £22bn "black hole" lie Tulip Siddiq on run from Interpol Mystery £750K donor Andrew Gwynne, "pensioner die" rant Cut frigates order from 13 to 8 Homeless minister evicting tenants Needed a court to tell him what a woman is Reeves lying on CV Mike Amesbury punching voters Benefits exceeding income tax (£330bn) Killing farmers with IHT 300,000 more unemployed Caplin, Grindr abuse of minor CCP spy embassy Chagos scam/treason (Mandelson?) IRGC not proscribed Treating pension costs as defence % Southport 'far-right' disgraceful comments Recognising Palestine terrorist state 67,000 channel invaders Two-tier justice (prioritising foreign interests) Removing jury trials Lawfare on NI veterans (for free!) No navy in middle east Faking military spending/dragging feet Strange Czech work camp as young man Very odd firebombing male models Nobbling CCP spy case Islamophobia law Degraded Gibraltar sovereignty to EU Removing "HM" from Govt comms Economy flatlining Exports crashing Commie breakfast clubs (buying votes) Highest tax % ever £120bn fiscal deficit even after raising taxes Highest gilts costs of any G7 £500m for pointless Erasmus Given away fishing rights again to French Watering down MP responsibilities Ignored antisemites marching each week Left scene after cyclist collision (drunk/lie about tailor?) Voice coach during COVID (breaching mixing rules) Island of Strangers speech that he denied all knowledge off Strange un-minuted meetings with Bill Gates/Blackrock "I'd rather be in Davos, than Westminster" (true colours) 2
hypochondriac Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago On an unrelated note: Can we ask Steve Grant for a plugin that removes any content posted on here that's directly copied and pasted from social media or chatgpt? Thanks. 4 2
Gloucester Saint Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, revolution saint said: Personally I'd have Cameron a lot further down the list. Wouldn't have had Brexit without him. Certainly a case to be made that Cameron put party before country. Went too hard/fast with austerity against Osborne and Cable’s advice. But he was socially liberal and there were many progressive policies plus he was genuine about the NHS after his son’s treatment. I think the referendum might have happened by the time of the next GE though even if he hadn’t based the 2015 GE on it. The Tories were a lot more stable as past of the coalition. Edited 3 hours ago by Gloucester Saint
badgerx16 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said: Starmer’s achievements (in no particular order): Chagos Island “deal” Digital ID Ignoring Rhianna's mum (her daughter stabbed 20+ times) King's speech containing policies *nobody voted for* £200K a month on foreign trips (45 in 22 months/never here) Biggest electoral wipeout in history Factories closing due to Net Zero insanity Bizarrely, bringing previous Labour failures back (Brown/Harman) Attempted to cancel local elections (knew they would be hammered) *Bringing previous Labour failures back (Brown/Harman)* £1bn “reset with EU” when they sell us £100bn more than we sell them Whipped MPs to become accomplices in his cover-up £660m to French to do nothing Undisclosed Palantir meeting with Mandelson Constantly fibbing to the house Shoplifting free-for-all (Greggs hiding sandwiches) Buying votes lifting 2-child benefit cap (Buying votes) Freezing pensioners as they don't vote Labour Employers NI hike/con trick Letting 438 prisoners out by “error” Lied about Durham party (COVID) McSweeney's convenient mobile phone theft Flippant "To us, he's just Peter" comment Ricky Jones cleared after incitement Imprisoned a mother for a tweet Sue Gray debacle Lord Alli buying his wife's clothes Appointing Hermer/Powell without security clearance Private schools closing due to VAT attack Rayner tax fiddling probe COVID broadcast from Lord Alli's flat (weird) Most expensive electricity in world Killing babies/abortion law Damage USA relationship/idiotic ban on use of bases Assisted suicide (pensioners don’t vote Labour) 100,000 extra in state schools from independents Reeves blubbing in commons Frightening Open AI £34bn investment off Cabinet £22k Taylor Swift tickets Reeves rental breach Labour together - smearing journalists Donors fast-tracked to jobs Nick Brown see no evil hear no evil Labour MP cavorting with TWO sub captains Reynolds, the fake solicitor Louise "fingers" Haigh, the mobile thief Halting North Sea oil licenses (£17bn lost) Dan Norris, rape charges Killing off hospitality/pubs Shovelling £billions to Ukraine (not in NATO) Secret republican/anti-monarchist Halting Chagossian food supplies (boats he will stop) Lammy taxi-ride lies/leaving trash £22bn "black hole" lie Tulip Siddiq on run from Interpol Mystery £750K donor Andrew Gwynne, "pensioner die" rant Cut frigates order from 13 to 8 Homeless minister evicting tenants Needed a court to tell him what a woman is Reeves lying on CV Mike Amesbury punching voters Benefits exceeding income tax (£330bn) Killing farmers with IHT 300,000 more unemployed Caplin, Grindr abuse of minor CCP spy embassy Chagos scam/treason (Mandelson?) IRGC not proscribed Treating pension costs as defence % Southport 'far-right' disgraceful comments Recognising Palestine terrorist state 67,000 channel invaders Two-tier justice (prioritising foreign interests) Removing jury trials Lawfare on NI veterans (for free!) No navy in middle east Faking military spending/dragging feet Strange Czech work camp as young man Very odd firebombing male models Nobbling CCP spy case Islamophobia law Degraded Gibraltar sovereignty to EU Removing "HM" from Govt comms Economy flatlining Exports crashing Commie breakfast clubs (buying votes) Highest tax % ever £120bn fiscal deficit even after raising taxes Highest gilts costs of any G7 £500m for pointless Erasmus Given away fishing rights again to French Watering down MP responsibilities Ignored antisemites marching each week Left scene after cyclist collision (drunk/lie about tailor?) Voice coach during COVID (breaching mixing rules) Island of Strangers speech that he denied all knowledge off Strange un-minuted meetings with Bill Gates/Blackrock "I'd rather be in Davos, than Westminster" (true colours) You typed all of that from memory without any outside assistance, excellent work. I'm impressed. 2
whelk Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 18 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said: Starmer’s achievements (in no particular order): Chagos Island “deal” Digital ID Ignoring Rhianna's mum (her daughter stabbed 20+ times) King's speech containing policies *nobody voted for* £200K a month on foreign trips (45 in 22 months/never here) Biggest electoral wipeout in history Factories closing due to Net Zero insanity Bizarrely, bringing previous Labour failures back (Brown/Harman) Attempted to cancel local elections (knew they would be hammered) *Bringing previous Labour failures back (Brown/Harman)* £1bn “reset with EU” when they sell us £100bn more than we sell them Whipped MPs to become accomplices in his cover-up £660m to French to do nothing Undisclosed Palantir meeting with Mandelson Constantly fibbing to the house Shoplifting free-for-all (Greggs hiding sandwiches) Buying votes lifting 2-child benefit cap (Buying votes) Freezing pensioners as they don't vote Labour Employers NI hike/con trick Letting 438 prisoners out by “error” Lied about Durham party (COVID) McSweeney's convenient mobile phone theft Flippant "To us, he's just Peter" comment Ricky Jones cleared after incitement Imprisoned a mother for a tweet Sue Gray debacle Lord Alli buying his wife's clothes Appointing Hermer/Powell without security clearance Private schools closing due to VAT attack Rayner tax fiddling probe COVID broadcast from Lord Alli's flat (weird) Most expensive electricity in world Killing babies/abortion law Damage USA relationship/idiotic ban on use of bases Assisted suicide (pensioners don’t vote Labour) 100,000 extra in state schools from independents Reeves blubbing in commons Frightening Open AI £34bn investment off Cabinet £22k Taylor Swift tickets Reeves rental breach Labour together - smearing journalists Donors fast-tracked to jobs Nick Brown see no evil hear no evil Labour MP cavorting with TWO sub captains Reynolds, the fake solicitor Louise "fingers" Haigh, the mobile thief Halting North Sea oil licenses (£17bn lost) Dan Norris, rape charges Killing off hospitality/pubs Shovelling £billions to Ukraine (not in NATO) Secret republican/anti-monarchist Halting Chagossian food supplies (boats he will stop) Lammy taxi-ride lies/leaving trash £22bn "black hole" lie Tulip Siddiq on run from Interpol Mystery £750K donor Andrew Gwynne, "pensioner die" rant Cut frigates order from 13 to 8 Homeless minister evicting tenants Needed a court to tell him what a woman is Reeves lying on CV Mike Amesbury punching voters Benefits exceeding income tax (£330bn) Killing farmers with IHT 300,000 more unemployed Caplin, Grindr abuse of minor CCP spy embassy Chagos scam/treason (Mandelson?) IRGC not proscribed Treating pension costs as defence % Southport 'far-right' disgraceful comments Recognising Palestine terrorist state 67,000 channel invaders Two-tier justice (prioritising foreign interests) Removing jury trials Lawfare on NI veterans (for free!) No navy in middle east Faking military spending/dragging feet Strange Czech work camp as young man Very odd firebombing male models Nobbling CCP spy case Islamophobia law Degraded Gibraltar sovereignty to EU Removing "HM" from Govt comms Economy flatlining Exports crashing Commie breakfast clubs (buying votes) Highest tax % ever £120bn fiscal deficit even after raising taxes Highest gilts costs of any G7 £500m for pointless Erasmus Given away fishing rights again to French Watering down MP responsibilities Ignored antisemites marching each week Left scene after cyclist collision (drunk/lie about tailor?) Voice coach during COVID (breaching mixing rules) Island of Strangers speech that he denied all knowledge off Strange un-minuted meetings with Bill Gates/Blackrock "I'd rather be in Davos, than Westminster" (true colours) Mental cunt 1
whelk Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 9 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: You typed all of that from memory without any outside assistance, excellent work. I'm impressed. This fucking idiot would be fucked without chatGPT. Common these days but in past could not have hidden his slow brain
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