The Starmer Years - Can The New Broom Sweep Clean?

[whelk]

17 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

On an unrelated note: Can we ask Steve Grant for a plugin that removes any content posted on here that's directly copied and pasted from social media or chatgpt? Thanks.

About time Hypo you asked ChatGPT how fucking mental is Osvaldo. Or is he the stupidest poster in Christendom

[badgerx16]

Just now, whelk said:

About time Hypo you asked ChatGPT how fucking mental is Osvaldo. Or is he the stupidest poster in Christendom

Even limited just to SaintsWeb he has 2 challengers for the title.

[egg]

1 hour ago, whelk said:

I know someone who works closely with her and I trust their judgment. Frighteningly how a label like Rachel from accounts and odd sounding speech means people think she is stupid. She clearly isn’t 

Anyone who uses that description is dopey af. 

[Sarnia Cherie]

1 hour ago, warsash saint said:

Would be interested to know, in your view, what Reeves has done disastrously wrong??

Apart from having a CV full of porkies she has made it an attractive career choice for large families on benefits to continue living that way by scrapping the 2 cap benefit. The borrowing is off the scale. I think I saw a figure of £10b a month repayments on what we owe. For me, and this hits home personally, she pushed through a cruel 20% VAT increase on private school fees. Fine for those who have wealthy parents who won't blink an eye on the increase. However, many children have to go a specialist school because mainstream education in this country has failed them. This increase has resulted in some pupils having to go back to mainstream education and be failed once again. Reeves could easily have made an exception for parents of children with special education needs but she refused. Not only misguided but cruel.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

56 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

From best to worst

Blair

Cameron

Sunak

May

Brown

Starmer

Johnson

Truss

 

55 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Well done for doing it properly. Yours is pretty much what I expected most on here to answer although maybe Starmer slightly higher.

You teacher's pet you, Gloucester. 🙂

[Farmer Saint]

44 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

Starmer’s achievements (in no particular order):

Chagos Island “deal”

Digital ID
Ignoring Rhianna's mum (her daughter stabbed 20+ times)
King's speech containing policies *nobody voted for*
£200K a month on foreign trips (45 in 22 months/never here)
Biggest electoral wipeout in history
Factories closing due to Net Zero insanity
Bizarrely, bringing previous Labour failures back (Brown/Harman)
Attempted to cancel local elections (knew they would be hammered)
*Bringing previous Labour failures back (Brown/Harman)*
£1bn “reset with EU” when they sell us £100bn more than we sell them
Whipped MPs to become accomplices in his cover-up
£660m to French to do nothing
Undisclosed Palantir meeting with Mandelson
Constantly fibbing to the house
Shoplifting free-for-all (Greggs hiding sandwiches)
Buying votes lifting 2-child benefit cap (Buying votes) 
Freezing pensioners as they don't vote Labour
Employers NI hike/con trick
Letting 438 prisoners out by “error”
Lied about Durham party (COVID)
McSweeney's convenient mobile phone theft
Flippant "To us, he's just Peter" comment
Ricky Jones cleared after incitement 
Imprisoned a mother for a tweet
Sue Gray debacle
Lord Alli buying his wife's clothes
Appointing Hermer/Powell without security clearance
Private schools closing due to VAT attack
Rayner tax fiddling probe
COVID broadcast from Lord Alli's flat (weird)
Most expensive electricity in world
Killing babies/abortion law
Damage USA relationship/idiotic ban on use of bases
Assisted suicide (pensioners don’t vote Labour)
100,000 extra in state schools from independents
Reeves blubbing in commons
Frightening Open AI £34bn investment off
Cabinet £22k Taylor Swift tickets
Reeves rental breach
Labour together - smearing journalists
Donors fast-tracked to jobs
Nick Brown see no evil hear no evil
Labour MP cavorting with TWO sub captains
Reynolds, the fake solicitor
Louise "fingers" Haigh, the mobile thief
Halting North Sea oil licenses (£17bn lost)
Dan Norris, rape charges
Killing off hospitality/pubs
Shovelling £billions to Ukraine (not in NATO)
Secret republican/anti-monarchist
Halting Chagossian food supplies (boats he will stop)
Lammy taxi-ride lies/leaving trash
£22bn "black hole" lie
Tulip Siddiq on run from Interpol
Mystery £750K donor
Andrew Gwynne, "pensioner die" rant
Cut frigates order from 13 to 8
Homeless minister evicting tenants
Needed a court to tell him what a woman is
Reeves lying on CV
Mike Amesbury punching voters
Benefits exceeding income tax (£330bn)
Killing farmers with IHT
300,000 more unemployed
Caplin, Grindr abuse of minor
CCP spy embassy
Chagos scam/treason (Mandelson?)
IRGC not proscribed
Treating pension costs as defence %
Southport 'far-right' disgraceful comments
Recognising Palestine terrorist state
67,000 channel invaders
Two-tier justice (prioritising foreign interests)
Removing jury trials
Lawfare on NI veterans (for free!) 
No navy in middle east
Faking military spending/dragging feet
Strange Czech work camp as young man
Very odd firebombing male models
Nobbling CCP spy case
Islamophobia law
Degraded Gibraltar sovereignty to EU
Removing "HM" from Govt comms
Economy flatlining
Exports crashing
Commie breakfast clubs (buying votes)
Highest tax % ever
£120bn fiscal deficit even after raising taxes
Highest gilts costs of any G7
£500m for pointless Erasmus
Given away fishing rights again to French
Watering down MP responsibilities
Ignored antisemites marching each week
Left scene after cyclist collision (drunk/lie about tailor?)
Voice coach during COVID (breaching mixing rules)
Island of Strangers speech that he denied all knowledge off
Strange un-minuted meetings with Bill Gates/Blackrock
"I'd rather be in Davos, than Westminster" (true colours)

Are you trying to come across as a thick cunt?

[Holmes_and_Watson]

23 minutes ago, whelk said:

About time Hypo you asked ChatGPT how fucking mental is Osvaldo. Or is he the stupidest poster in Christendom

That's quite an award. One that speaks of centuries old conflicts in the middle east where the West would send their dumbest to face off against the dimmest from the East, in Jerusalem. 

Historic events memorialised now, when Trump has carers deliver one of his representatives to the region.

There should be ceremony for the award, delivered by the Pope. From a distance, for safeguarding reasons.

[egg]

11 minutes ago, Sarnia Cherie said:

Apart from having a CV full of porkies she has made it an attractive career choice for large families on benefits to continue living that way by scrapping the 2 cap benefit. The borrowing is off the scale. I think I saw a figure of £10b a month repayments on what we owe. For me, and this hits home personally, she pushed through a cruel 20% VAT increase on private school fees. Fine for those who have wealthy parents who won't blink an eye on the increase. However, many children have to go a specialist school because mainstream education in this country has failed them. This increase has resulted in some pupils having to go back to mainstream education and be failed once again. Reeves could easily have made an exception for parents of children with special education needs but she refused. Not only misguided but cruel.

Whilst I don't agree with the vat on school fees, any kid who needs specialist education should have an EHCP. In that scenario, paying rather than leaving the Tribunal to determine school placement seems unusual. Sure, there's a delay in getting to Tribunal, but getting parental choice when there isn't difficult. 

[egg]

1 hour ago, Osvaldorama said:

The man covered up the rape gang inquiry 

 

He covered up for a known friend of a human trafficking pedophile in mandelson 

 

And yet people are morons for disliking him?

 

😂

You keep trotting out that nonsense. He didn't. 

[egg]

1 hour ago, Gloucester Saint said:

From best to worst

Blair

Cameron

Sunak

May

Brown

Starmer

Johnson

Truss

Pretty much where I am, although there's a case for swapping Johnson and Starmer for me. 

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

9 minutes ago, egg said:

Whilst I don't agree with the vat on school fees, any kid who needs specialist education should have an EHCP. In that scenario, paying rather than leaving the Tribunal to determine school placement seems unusual. Sure, there's a delay in getting to Tribunal, but getting parental choice when there isn't difficult. 

This should be the case, independent schools SEN schools in the whole will need an EHCP in place. With that, its local authorities who pay effectively. 

 

[trousers]

1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

Anyone want a go at ranking 21st century PMs?

I'm just thankful it's not Jonathan Ross asking this question... 

[whelk]

12 minutes ago, trousers said:

I'm just thankful it's not Jonathan Ross asking this question... 

at a push has to be Truss

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

Even limited just to SaintsWeb he has 2 challengers for the title.

Only one is sober though.

[Osvaldorama]

1 hour ago, whelk said:

This fucking idiot would be fucked without chatGPT. Common these days but in past could not have hidden his slow brain

What’s your net worth?

[badgerx16]

3 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

What’s your net worth?

This is about your size;

£15 at Argos.

[whelk]

5 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

What’s your net worth?

lol

[egg]

3 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

What’s your net worth?

I reckon Whelk's in a very comfortable place. That said, this is the web, so any of us can be whatever we want to say we are. 

I'm a Kosher butcher, born in Denver, net worth £14m. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

6 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

What’s your net worth?

I already did a whelk/ sea snail line earlier.

[Gloucester Saint]

I’d generally expect Burnham to get slightly less tabloid bile than Starmer did because they were still whining about Coulson and the Daily Mail prosecutions for phone hacking and corruption.

Bar one outlet - the Daily Mail. They hired a new Deputy Political editor Christian Calgie straight off the back off a cooling off period at the Express after advocating for a British born MP to be deported. However much I dislike her, that was disgusting. But clearly Ted Verity thought it was great. Calgie was the source of a very poor incident at a Wigan  educational needs centre. Not sure Farage or Kenyon did a lot wrong whilst they were there but Calgie again was unable to behave himself and it blew up between Burnham and Calgie. Could turn into a feud.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c74d7z0e818o

 

[vectraman]

9 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

I put him on ignore last week but people still quote him. The use of Third world sums him up, he might get a job one day where he has to travel to a third world nation for work and then he might vaguely know what term means or what it looks like in practice.

The west is declining comparatively because Asia has a younger population as well as a larger one and they take a longer term view of strategy and policy. Clinton allowing China into the WTO was a sliding doors moment. Asia isn’t afraid of using migration either when it needs to and to top up supporting their older population. 

Japan is the exception but do people here on a widespread basis work well into their 70s like the Japanese to support a demographic similar to ours?

And Asia do not care and are not committing economic suicide by going down the ludicrous ’green’ agenda that mad Ed is allowed to propagate. 
I don’t personally hate Kier Starmer, I hate the Labour Party for the damage they are doing to the uk economy and industry in particular. Green taxes, carbon taxes, energy prices through the roof, reliance on foreign energy etc etc etc. 

They are killing industry and the proper jobs they provide. Loonies and mad Ed is allowed to continue. 😡

[whelk]

7 minutes ago, egg said:

I reckon Whelk's in a very comfortable place. That said, this is the web, so any of us can be whatever we want to say we are. 

I'm a Kosher butcher, born in Denver, net worth £14m. 

Should improve notably soon as expect to get a promotion to chief fryer in the chicken shop 

Edited 1 hour ago by whelk

[Sir Ralph]

2 minutes ago, vectraman said:

And Asia do not care and are not committing economic suicide by going down the ludicrous ’green’ agenda that mad Ed is allowed to propagate. 
I don’t personally hate Kier Starmer, I hate the Labour Party for the damage they are doing to the uk economy and industry in particular. Green taxes, carbon taxes, energy prices through the roof, reliance on foreign energy etc etc etc. 

They are killing industry and the proper jobs they provide. Loonies and mad Ed is allowed to continue. 😡

Absolutely-they are economically illiterate- they have no idea of the economic consequences of their policies which is testament to that. 

[Gloucester Saint]

8 minutes ago, vectraman said:

And Asia do not care and are not committing economic suicide by going down the ludicrous ’green’ agenda that mad Ed is allowed to propagate. 
I don’t personally hate Kier Starmer, I hate the Labour Party for the damage they are doing to the uk economy and industry in particular. Green taxes, carbon taxes, energy prices through the roof, reliance on foreign energy etc etc etc. 

They are killing industry and the proper jobs they provide. Loonies and mad Ed is allowed to continue. 😡

I’ll take your post seriously if you admit that Thatcher should never privatised public utilities in the first place so overseas states could milk UK homeowners to pay their public pensions. Do you agree, yes or no?

If you agree, we can then get onto a sensible and non-partisan policy discussion about what the UK should be doing to ensure its energy future which may include North Sea oil. Green policies are neither new or confined to one ideology https://ppp-online.org/view-all-volumes/the-greenest-government-ever-the-coalition-government-and-low-carbon-policy/

But anti-climate rhetoric has come across the Atlantic with Trump and populism.

Edited 1 hour ago by Gloucester Saint

[Holmes_and_Watson]

11 minutes ago, egg said:

I reckon Whelk's in a very comfortable place. That said, this is the web, so any of us can be whatever we want to say we are. 

I'm a Kosher butcher, born in Denver, net worth £14m. 

Typical. I come on here to get away from the stresses of my four corners based butchery business, and this one person who's cutting into my profits...

[bpsaint]

2 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

Starmer’s achievements (in no particular order):

Chagos Island “deal”

Digital ID
Ignoring Rhianna's mum (her daughter stabbed 20+ times)
King's speech containing policies *nobody voted for*
£200K a month on foreign trips (45 in 22 months/never here)
Biggest electoral wipeout in history
Factories closing due to Net Zero insanity
Bizarrely, bringing previous Labour failures back (Brown/Harman)
Attempted to cancel local elections (knew they would be hammered)
*Bringing previous Labour failures back (Brown/Harman)*
£1bn “reset with EU” when they sell us £100bn more than we sell them
Whipped MPs to become accomplices in his cover-up
£660m to French to do nothing
Undisclosed Palantir meeting with Mandelson
Constantly fibbing to the house
Shoplifting free-for-all (Greggs hiding sandwiches)
Buying votes lifting 2-child benefit cap (Buying votes) 
Freezing pensioners as they don't vote Labour
Employers NI hike/con trick
Letting 438 prisoners out by “error”
Lied about Durham party (COVID)
McSweeney's convenient mobile phone theft
Flippant "To us, he's just Peter" comment
Ricky Jones cleared after incitement 
Imprisoned a mother for a tweet
Sue Gray debacle
Lord Alli buying his wife's clothes
Appointing Hermer/Powell without security clearance
Private schools closing due to VAT attack
Rayner tax fiddling probe
COVID broadcast from Lord Alli's flat (weird)
Most expensive electricity in world
Killing babies/abortion law
Damage USA relationship/idiotic ban on use of bases
Assisted suicide (pensioners don’t vote Labour)
100,000 extra in state schools from independents
Reeves blubbing in commons
Frightening Open AI £34bn investment off
Cabinet £22k Taylor Swift tickets
Reeves rental breach
Labour together - smearing journalists
Donors fast-tracked to jobs
Nick Brown see no evil hear no evil
Labour MP cavorting with TWO sub captains
Reynolds, the fake solicitor
Louise "fingers" Haigh, the mobile thief
Halting North Sea oil licenses (£17bn lost)
Dan Norris, rape charges
Killing off hospitality/pubs
Shovelling £billions to Ukraine (not in NATO)
Secret republican/anti-monarchist
Halting Chagossian food supplies (boats he will stop)
Lammy taxi-ride lies/leaving trash
£22bn "black hole" lie
Tulip Siddiq on run from Interpol
Mystery £750K donor
Andrew Gwynne, "pensioner die" rant
Cut frigates order from 13 to 8
Homeless minister evicting tenants
Needed a court to tell him what a woman is
Reeves lying on CV
Mike Amesbury punching voters
Benefits exceeding income tax (£330bn)
Killing farmers with IHT
300,000 more unemployed
Caplin, Grindr abuse of minor
CCP spy embassy
Chagos scam/treason (Mandelson?)
IRGC not proscribed
Treating pension costs as defence %
Southport 'far-right' disgraceful comments
Recognising Palestine terrorist state
67,000 channel invaders
Two-tier justice (prioritising foreign interests)
Removing jury trials
Lawfare on NI veterans (for free!) 
No navy in middle east
Faking military spending/dragging feet
Strange Czech work camp as young man
Very odd firebombing male models
Nobbling CCP spy case
Islamophobia law
Degraded Gibraltar sovereignty to EU
Removing "HM" from Govt comms
Economy flatlining
Exports crashing
Commie breakfast clubs (buying votes)
Highest tax % ever
£120bn fiscal deficit even after raising taxes
Highest gilts costs of any G7
£500m for pointless Erasmus
Given away fishing rights again to French
Watering down MP responsibilities
Ignored antisemites marching each week
Left scene after cyclist collision (drunk/lie about tailor?)
Voice coach during COVID (breaching mixing rules)
Island of Strangers speech that he denied all knowledge off
Strange un-minuted meetings with Bill Gates/Blackrock
"I'd rather be in Davos, than Westminster" (true colours)

You missed the bit about him helping go after ex servicemen, particularly those that fought in the troubles and in Iraq, and then appointing the lawyer who was proven to have lied as his Attorney General. 

[Osvaldorama]

20 minutes ago, whelk said:

lol

Yeah I thought so 😉 

 

I know it’s still fresh, but try not to throw out insults just because your boys resigned in disgrace 

Edited 1 hour ago by Osvaldorama

[vectraman]

4 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

I’ll take your post seriously if you admit that Thatcher should never privatised public utilities in the first place so overseas states could milk UK homeowners to pay their public pensions. Do you agree, yes or no?

If you agree, we can then get onto a sensible and non-partisan policy discussion about what the UK should be doing to ensure its energy future which may include North Sea oil.

I agree with you. Another catastrophically stupid decision that costs us all dearly. Literally. 

I am not blue/red/green or whatever. I just see things as they are right now, and all I’m seeing is the decline of UK industry due to ridiculous policies. 

I have worked in the oil industry for 35 years and there won’t be one left in 10 years if policy doesn’t change. 
That would be a criminal disaster and loss of many highly paid jobs. 

 

 

[whelk]

Just now, Osvaldorama said:

Yeah I thought so 😉 

I m confident I would beat you on every metric of success although would never be as vulgar to boast 😜

[Gloucester Saint]

5 minutes ago, bpsaint said:

You missed the bit about him helping go after ex servicemen, particularly those that fought in the troubles and in Iraq, and then appointing the lawyer who was proven to have lied as his Attorney General. 

Will give you the AG one.

On the second one, incorrect I’m afraid. I’ve met Johnny Mercer a few times and like him greatly, but he was plain wrong on Starmer’s role. He was utilised as a technical expert unaligned to either party. Common stuff for legal professionals in tribunals. Probably cleared more soldiers if anything

https://aoav.org.uk/2026/the-medias-assault-on-keir-starmer-over-british-soldier-prosecutions-in-the-iraq-war-shows-how-the-rule-of-law-is-being-recast-as-betrayal/

 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

18 minutes ago, whelk said:

Should improve notably soon as expect to get a promotion to chief fryer in the chicken shop 

Don't go to that interview! It's a trap!

[Osvaldorama]

5 minutes ago, whelk said:

I m confident I would beat you on every metric of success although would never be as vulgar to boast 😜

Sure, buddy 

[Gloucester Saint]

7 minutes ago, vectraman said:

I agree with you. Another catastrophically stupid decision that costs us all dearly. Literally. 

I am not blue/red/green or whatever. I just see things as they are right now, and all I’m seeing is the decline of UK industry due to ridiculous policies. 

I have worked in the oil industry for 35 years and there won’t be one left in 10 years if policy doesn’t change. 
That would be a criminal disaster and loss of many highly paid jobs. 

 

 

Agree with much of that. I think energy policy has to be a mixed approach and utilising North Sea fields will lower taxes on other sources and help fund the transition to new green energy industries. It’ll be interesting to see how much role Ed Miliband (who I’ve never liked or rated) has in the Burnham administration. 

[badgerx16]

8 minutes ago, vectraman said:

I agree with you. Another catastrophically stupid decision that costs us all dearly. Literally. 

I am not blue/red/green or whatever. I just see things as they are right now, and all I’m seeing is the decline of UK industry due to ridiculous policies. 

I have worked in the oil industry for 35 years and there won’t be one left in 10 years if policy doesn’t change. 
That would be a criminal disaster and loss of many highly paid jobs. 

 

 

Ah yes, Thatcher's other lasting financial legacy, selling off the North Sea oil rather than creating a Sovereign Wealth Fund.

[whelk]

Ahh bless - the low IQ tumbles out on every post. 

[hypochondriac]

31 minutes ago, egg said:

I reckon Whelk's in a very comfortable place. That said, this is the web, so any of us can be whatever we want to say we are. 

I'm a Kosher butcher, born in Denver, net worth £14m. 

I knew you were a self hating jew. Got all the gold as well.

Edited 1 hour ago by hypochondriac

[Gloucester Saint]

Just now, badgerx16 said:

Ah yes, Thatcher's other lasting financial legacy, selling off the North Sea oil rather than creating a Sovereign Wealth Fund.

Mike Shepherd’s excellent book I’m in the middle of reading ‘Oil Strike North Sea: A first-hand history of North Sea oil’.

Might be too basic for an industry long-time insider like @vectraman but so few books on the topic and I’ve really enjoyed reading it.

[badgerx16]

7 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

Sure, buddy 

Try this line of enquiry with Guided Missile, he is equally as socially insecure as you, desperate to find some metric that apparently proves you're 'superior' to everybody else..

You can have a private dick measuring contest - as Father Ted might put it "This is small, that is far away".

Edited 58 minutes ago by badgerx16

[hypochondriac]

8 minutes ago, whelk said:

Ahh bless - the low IQ tumbles out on every post. 

Seems spot on to me. Just missing the conspiracy theory bit:

If you're asking in the spirit of SaintsWeb forum personalities rather than a perfect one-to-one match, Osvaldorama comes across as a blend of:

Jeremy Clarkson – deliberately provocative at times and likely to post something that gets a reaction, even if only partly serious.

Victor Meldrew – perhaps the strongest comparison among Saints fans; there's often a "this is going to end badly" tone to his posts. (Victor is actually a fictional character.)

Eeyore – if we're being affectionate about it. Saints could win 5–0 and he'd still be looking at the injury list and next year's accounts. (Also fictional.) Eeyore

Edited 57 minutes ago by hypochondriac

[Gloucester Saint]

2 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Try this line of enquiry with Guided Missile, he is equally as socially insecure as you, desperate to find some metric that apparently proves you're 'superior' to everybody else..

There is some of the same irregular spacing of paragraphs come to think of it…

[AlexLaw76]

Labour are about to have a couple of months o the famous SaintsWeb/Glasgow Saint 'Momentum Curve'.

Then, reality will sit in during the winter.

[egg]

11 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I knew you were a self hating jew. Got all the gold as well.

I walked onto that!! 😊

[Gloucester Saint]

5 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Labour are about to have a couple of months o the famous SaintsWeb/Glasgow Saint 'Momentum Curve'.

Then, reality will sit in during the winter.

I think elections are going to become very unpredictable and regionalised/localised now.

Labour are dead - then Makersfield happens. Tories are dead, both main parties dead - Aberdeen South.

Reform have been declining for a while from what was probably an artificial bubble but they’ll still have some big wins and feel they’re on the way back again. Ditto the Greens.

The one party which are really in the plops despite 70 seats are the Lib Dem’s. Our leader only appears when there’s a resignation and no presence other than falling off canoes. 

Edited 47 minutes ago by Gloucester Saint

[Farmer Saint]

30 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

Yeah I thought so 😉 

 

I know it’s still fresh, but try not to throw out insults just because your boys resigned in disgrace 

What's your net worth? Interested to know if you're comfortable with answering the same question you're asking others.

Edited 45 minutes ago by Farmer Saint

[egg]

Houses in Lowford ain't cheap.

1 minute ago, Farmer Saint said:

What's your net worth?

 

[iansums]

Anything happening back home?

[badgerx16]

1 minute ago, Farmer Saint said:

What's your net worth? Interested to know if you're comfortable with answering the same question you're asking others.

What does it matter ? It's not as if anybody would be honest in answering.

[Gloucester Saint]

3 minutes ago, egg said:

Houses in Lowford ain't cheap.

 

He won’t be popping into the community centre anytime soon. Both accounts are on ignore for me.

Edited 40 minutes ago by Gloucester Saint

[hypochondriac]

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3 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

What does it matter ? It's not as if anybody would be honest in answering.

What normal person spends time  adding up assets with a calculator and then thinking it makes you better than someone else. 

[Sir Ralph]

6 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

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What normal person spends time  adding up assets with a calculator and then thinking it makes you better than someone else. 

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Edited 32 minutes ago by Sir Ralph