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Farmer Saint

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58 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Kruger saying the current Tory party is too left wing is like eating one of these, and saying it tastes like a Korma https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phall

The problem is the Tories, alongside this iteration of the Labour party, don't know what they are. Reform do. That's why they're getting the traction they are.

Lib Dems need to really up their game on this front. Clear messaging: "We will re-enter the EU to improve everyone's lives. It will solve the migrant crisis" etc etc.

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badgerx16

badgerx16

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1 hour ago, Farmer Saint said:

 

Lib Dems need to really up their game on this front. Clear messaging: "We will re-enter the EU to improve everyone's lives. It will solve the migrant crisis" etc etc.

So a straight up fight between LDs and Reform becomes Brexit referendum #2. Surely the LDs would effectively be cutting themselves off from the Leave voters.

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iansums

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2 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Kruger saying the current Tory party is too left wing is like eating one of these, and saying it tastes like a Korma https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phall

An odd analogy but it is the case that many Tories and Tory voters do feel that the party has been too let’s say Liberal rather than left wing, over many years.

iansums

iansums

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On 12/09/2025 at 20:49, whelk said:

Not being ‘an elite’ and one of the people I assume he doesn’t have much wealth at all. He is clearly driven by more noble principles. As an aside can the BBC stop their fucking love in with the cunt

Seeing as Reform currently lead the opinion polls, it’s only right that Farage gets significant air time.

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badgerx16

badgerx16

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47 minutes ago, iansums said:

Having a sitting Tory MP defect to Reform is a significant development.

Should there be a mandatory by-election if the MP switches parties mid term ?

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iansums

iansums

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12 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Should there be a mandatory by-election if the MP switches parties mid term ?

Good question, I don’t really have an opinion to be honest. It’s happened a lot down the years across all parties. Interestingly, the MP in question is Prue Leith’s son.

Farmer Saint

Farmer Saint

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24 minutes ago, iansums said:

Good question, I don’t really have an opinion to be honest. It’s happened a lot down the years across all parties. Interestingly, the MP in question is Prue Leith’s son.

Quite a coincidence that he looks very arian...

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The Kraken

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45 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Should there be a mandatory by-election if the MP switches parties mid term ?

IMO yes. Like it or not, a large part of what people vote for is the party. There are obviously some MPs who are popular with their constituents for work they’ve done, but for the large part the average voter votes for the party. If you want to move parties then you should have to get elected under than banner IMO. And if that means a by election then so be it.

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sadoldgit

sadoldgit

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1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

Should there be a mandatory by-election if the MP switches parties mid term ?

Of course there should be. Can you imagine the meltdown amongst the Gammons if one of their MPs or councillors left Reform for the Labour Party?

If you stand as a representative for a certain party you owe it to the people who voted for you to have a choice to carry on supporting you or not. If you cast your vote for a Tory and they are elected, why should you end up with that person representing another party without another vote?

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egg

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1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

Should there be a mandatory by-election if the MP switches parties mid term ?

First blush answer was yes mainly for the reasons Kraken says - most people don't know their MP from Adam, and in truth are backing the party and/or the leader. The MP is just just the party representative in most people's eyes. 

But do we do the same if someone loses the party whip? They become an indy, and no longer represent the party they were elected under. 

Different situations, yep, but in both situations an MP's role changes.

If one scenario triggers a by election, the other should. We can't have a political system where the whip system, and party discipline, goes for fear of a by election.

On balance, a heavy hearted "no" from me. 

 

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Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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3 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

So a straight up fight between LDs and Reform becomes Brexit referendum #2. Surely the LDs would effectively be cutting themselves off from the Leave voters.

They won’t vote Lib Dem anyway and we don’t tend to do so well in those areas. Farage wouldn’t like all of his lies and the flop of Brexit exposed. The reason Sir Ed has avoided it is he saw how it destroyed Swinson, but different circumstances now. 

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Gloucester Saint

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2 hours ago, iansums said:

An odd analogy but it is the case that many Tories and Tory voters do feel that the party has been too let’s say Liberal rather than left wing, over many years.

Under Cameron I can see it - right wing economics/austerity combined with social liberalism. But May was socially more conservative, Boris who knows? Thatcher was the sea change but it’s compromise with the electorate after that and even she had to compromise eg NHS Safe with Us campaign. 

Lord Duckhunter

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1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

Of course there should be. Can you imagine the meltdown amongst the Gammons if one of their MPs or councillors left Reform for the Labour Party?

Of course, who can forget all your posts insisting Soubry and her band of 🤡’s stand in a by election….

The Kraken

The Kraken

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2 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Of course, who can forget all your posts insisting Soubry and her band of 🤡’s stand in a by election….

I found Starmer’s grandstanding of Christian Wakeford pretty poor. I’d have been pretty pissed off had he been my mp.

tdmickey3

tdmickey3

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Nigel has been snivelling because he wasn't invited to the Trump banquet ...bless 😭

No good to you leather chops, they don't serve pints and allow smelly tweed  jackets

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Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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Reform saving taxpayers money (source Private Eye): Since May 2025, Reform has already 14 councillors - scores on the doors are 8 resignations (eg https://www.northantstelegraph.co.uk/news/people/corby-reform-councillor-resigns-over-serious-racism-allegations-5289085), two expulsions, and four suspensions. 

With the resulting by-elections triggered, the cost to the public purse already exceeds £200k in less than five months.

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Jeremy Corbyn

Jeremy Corbyn

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17 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Remember, we’ve been told on here that Reform is a working class party with working class voters looking after their interests https://democracyforsale.substack.com/p/new-reform-donor-in-breach-of-company

This sort of thing is frustrating.  Reform aren't particularly good or generally 'supportable' but Labour are completely failing to create a viable alternative that things like this don't seem to matter.  If Labour pull their finger out and actually start operating like a progressive party it could actually make Reform look like the frauds they are.

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sadoldgit

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Farage believes that Sharia Law will be introduced into the UK. How does he know this? A taxi driver told him.

Seriously.

He doesn’t trust science but he trusts what random taxi drivers and Andrew Tate tell him. Yes nic, it is laughable isn’t it?

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badgerx16

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Sharia Law already exists in the UK, at least that part of it related to how to go about your daily worship and religious obsevance, and to a certan extent relationship management, in the same way that the Christian Churches have Canonical Law, and Judaism has Halakha. It is nothing sinister.

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ecuk268

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Farage now believes that Romanians are catching and eating swans from the Royal Parks.

Obviously a copy of Trump's statement about immigrants eating cats and dogs.

Good luck on catching a swan and transporting it through the streets of London unnoticed.

The Royal Parks have said that it's all bollox.

https://news.sky.com/story/royal-parks-responds-to-farages-claim-that-swans-are-being-eaten-by-eastern-europeans-in-the-uk-13437205

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badgerx16

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33 minutes ago, ecuk268 said:

Farage now believes that Romanians are catching and eating swans from the Royal Parks.

Obviously a copy of Trump's statement about immigrants eating cats and dogs.

Good luck on catching a swan and transporting it through the streets of London unnoticed.

The Royal Parks have said that it's all bollox.

https://news.sky.com/story/royal-parks-responds-to-farages-claim-that-swans-are-being-eaten-by-eastern-europeans-in-the-uk-13437205

ALTERNATIVE FACTS

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Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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44 minutes ago, ecuk268 said:

Farage now believes that Romanians are catching and eating swans from the Royal Parks.

Obviously a copy of Trump's statement about immigrants eating cats and dogs.

Good luck on catching a swan and transporting it through the streets of London unnoticed.

The Royal Parks have said that it's all bollox.

https://news.sky.com/story/royal-parks-responds-to-farages-claim-that-swans-are-being-eaten-by-eastern-europeans-in-the-uk-13437205

I said he is a poundshop Trump but that’s more like 1p.

Saying anything to be in the news.

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CB Fry

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49 minutes ago, ecuk268 said:

Farage now believes that Romanians are catching and eating swans from the Royal Parks.

Obviously a copy of Trump's statement about immigrants eating cats and dogs.

Good luck on catching a swan and transporting it through the streets of London unnoticed.

The Royal Parks have said that it's all bollox.

https://news.sky.com/story/royal-parks-responds-to-farages-claim-that-swans-are-being-eaten-by-eastern-europeans-in-the-uk-13437205

He is massively overestimating how much British people want a Donald Trump tribute act as Prime Minister. The more he does bollocks like this (and stuff about deporting people that have been here for decades) the more middle ground voters he can lose.

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Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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13 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

He is massively overestimating how much British people want a Donald Trump tribute act as Prime Minister. The more he does bollocks like this (and stuff about deporting people that have been here for decades) the more middle ground voters he can lose.

Yesterday’s announcement really pissed off a lot of people in the middle ground and quite frankly, any reasonable and decent sane human being. The idea that say an SME owner employing people or cancer scientist who have been here 15-25 years will tolerate being on a 5-year fixed term stay, effectively for the rest of their days is for the birds. Big miscalculation.

I dare say some Reform supporters even thought it was going too far. Rebekah Brooks saying in the Sun’s editorial that it may be popular with voters was hopeful that millions of people will forget the new ITV drama about her and others appalling criminality and perverting the course of justice.

As you say, let’s hope Farage carries on parroting Trump and recruiting the shittiest end of the ERG. They’ll be cut down to their natural size soon enough whether their window lickers carry on putting flags up or not. 

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Saint86

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17 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

They're also driving them.

Well they're hardly going to pick them up and walk off are they...

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Turkish

Turkish

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2 hours ago, whelk said:

I hope a swan bites his cock off

did you know a swan can break someones arm with a flap of their wings. Ever met anyone who it's happened to though?

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whelk

whelk

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13 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

so 101 people gave an answer and 2564 said "don't know"

Ringing endorsement 🤣

I think that will be percentages. Far be it for me to stop them ejaculating at a poll about an event 4 years away

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badgerx16

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2 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

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And given the vagaries of FPTP Reform could still end up not forming the Government.

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sadoldgit

sadoldgit

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4 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

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They’re eating the cats, the’re eating the dogs, they’re eating the swans 😂. 77 million Americans voted for the Mango Mussolini. All these figures prove is that you can never underestimate the number of turkeys who will vote for Christmas.

The fact is that Trump is clearly the worst US President in history and embarrasses his country more and more everyday. Our electorate can see this every single day yet some of them are prepared to vote for our very own Poundland version which makes you understand why Socrates was so critical of democracy.

Apparently there are still some people who swallowed Farage’s bullshit about Brexit who still think that it was a good idea 🤪.

When people tell you who they are, believe them. Trump and Farage have told us exactly who they are. The people who vote for them deserve all they get.

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moonraker

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On 24/09/2025 at 14:20, badgerx16 said:

I wonder if Nic is getting confused between laughing emojis and the 'like' button.

No he is just confused by life

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east-stand-nic

east-stand-nic

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13 hours ago, moonraker said:

No he is just confused by life

Yes, in the case of you and all the other lefty loons on here I am indeed confused how you qualify as being classed as life. 

egg

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12 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

Yes, in the case of you and all the other lefty loons on here I am indeed confused how you qualify as being classed as life. 

Centre ground politics is not left mate. It's left of your right wing allegiance, yes, but it's not left. 

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tdmickey3

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21 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

Yes, in the case of you and all the others with superior intelligence on here I am indeed confused at life because I have the brain capacity of Plankton

Fixed it for you, no need to thank me

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