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egg

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Just now, iansums said:

Hold on, I thought that was Whelks role on the forum?

It's Friday, and Whelk needs a rest on Fridays. I'm standing in. 

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Turkish

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1 minute ago, egg said:

Correct, and nic isn't the only one obsessed with SoG. There are personal skirmishes all over the lounge which seems to dominate pretty much every thread, and follow from thread to thread. The forum is worse for it.

Anyways, I'm off to call Ralph a cunt. 

As i've said before i barely even noticed SOG until the BLM stuff when he started calling me a Tommy Robinson supporting right wing racist because i was critical  him for pretending there wasn't any violence or arrests. Every since then he's repeatedly called me and others all sorts of stuff. If I ignore him for a while he'll randomly quote me on a post with all sorts of accusations and name calling, he does this with others too like hypo.  His latest post about filming peadophiles from behind a mirror was about as vile a comment as you can get. So he gets exactly what he deserves from me. Funny how most people can disagree and move on yet with him and couple of others if you dont nod along with them in agreement then god help you. 

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iansums

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18 minutes ago, Turkish said:

As i've said before i barely even noticed SOG until the BLM stuff when he started calling me a Tommy Robinson supporting right wing racist because i was critical  him for pretending there wasn't any violence or arrests. Every since then he's repeatedly called me and others all sorts of stuff. If I ignore him for a while he'll randomly quote me on a post with all sorts of accusations and name calling, he does this with others too like hypo.  His latest post about filming peadophiles from behind a mirror was about as vile a comment as you can get. So he gets exactly what he deserves from me. Funny how most people can disagree and move on yet with him and couple of others if you dont nod along with them in agreement then god help you. 

At least you still get to vote! (and no, I won't be letting that one go for a while yet)

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sadoldgit

sadoldgit

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2 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

Genuine question here. Why do you continue to engage with him? It's fairly easy to see why a number of posters on here continuously wind you up, because you literally cannot let anything go.

I let a lot go.

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sadoldgit

sadoldgit

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2 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

But SOG v Nic is so fucking boring.

Don’t read the posts then. Be honest, you have had plenty of spats with other posters on here.

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Farmer Saint

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25 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Don’t read the posts then. Be honest, you have had plenty of spats with other posters on here.

Yeah, I do, but none of them are so obviously a WUM as Nic. You will never, ever win against him and every time you reply reflects worse and worse on you. That's what you need to understand.

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The Kraken

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9 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Yeah, I do, but none of them are so obviously a WUM as Nic. You will never, ever win against him and every time you reply reflects worse and worse on you. That's what you need to understand.

He understands it, he just craves the attention. Best to just ignore the shite that both of them continually spout at each other.

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sadoldgit

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A long read but nails Farage perfectly.

𝗡𝗶𝗴𝗲𝗹 𝗙𝗮𝗿𝗮𝗴𝗲: 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗙𝗿𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗺𝗮𝗻 𝗼𝗳 𝗕𝗿𝗶𝘁𝗮𝗶𝗻'𝘀 𝗚𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁 𝗕𝗲𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘆𝗮𝗹.

Nigel Farage presents himself as a political outsider, a man of the people, pint in hand, rallying the nation to "take back control." But peel back the layers of manufactured charisma and populist bluster, and you’ll find something far more calculated, elitist, and damaging. Farage wasn’t just a player in Britain’s political drama — he was a frontman for one of the most significant bait-and-switch operations in modern UK history.

𝙏𝙝𝙚 𝙋𝙪𝙥𝙥𝙚𝙩 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙃𝙞𝙨 𝙈𝙖𝙨𝙩𝙚𝙧𝙨:

Farage’s success wasn’t born from grassroots rage. It was bankrolled by millionaires and hedge fund managers with one primary concern: the growing threat of EU regulations on financial transparency. The EU was moving toward mandatory disclosure of beneficial ownership, tighter corporate tax laws, and cross-border cooperation that would have exposed Britain’s offshore tax havens. The very wealthy were running scared — and Farage offered them a lifeline.

Enter Arron Banks, the multimillionaire insurance tycoon with opaque finances and offshore dealings. Add to the mix a network of hedge funders; libertarian think tanks and tax haven defenders. Farage became their man — a “rebel” with a tailored script.

𝙏𝙝𝙚 𝙈𝙚𝙙𝙞𝙖 𝙀𝙣𝙜𝙞𝙣𝙚:

Farage’s rise would not have been possible without the mainstream media. The BBC, desperate for "balance," handed him dozens of appearances on Question Time. The right-wing press — Telegraph, Mail, Express — turned him into a household name. LBC gave him his own radio show. GB News now serves as his echo chamber.

Why? Because outrage sells. Farage was clickbait personified. He delivered ratings, controversy, and headlines while reinforcing the interests of media barons who shared his disdain for Brussels’ oversight.

𝙏𝙝𝙚 𝙏𝙤𝙧𝙮 𝙎𝙮𝙢𝙗𝙞𝙤𝙨𝙞𝙨:

Farage’s relationship with the Conservative Party was never straightforward. Publicly, he was their enemy. Privately, he was their pressure valve. His threat to Tory votes — especially in marginal, working-class areas — forced Cameron to offer the Brexit referendum. Later, in 2019, he stood down Brexit Party candidates in Tory seats, helping Boris Johnson win a landslide.

In return, the Tories absorbed Farage’s playbook wholesale: anti-immigration, anti-Europe, pro-privatisation, and pro-deregulation. Farage didn’t just influence policy — he reshaped the party from outside.

𝙍𝙚𝙛𝙤𝙧𝙢 𝙐𝙆: 𝙍𝙚𝙗𝙧𝙖𝙣𝙙𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙍𝙤𝙩:

Post-Brexit, Farage didn’t retire. He rebranded. Reform UK emerged as the next vehicle for his populist project. Now he rails against Net Zero, attacks trans rights, and blames every national failure on "woke elites" and illegal migrants. The messaging hasn’t changed — just the targets.

Reform UK isn’t about reform. It’s about keeping the anger alive while ensuring the same elite class stays untouchable. It’s The Brexit Party 2.0 — the cultural sequel.

𝘼 𝙂𝙡𝙤𝙗𝙖𝙡 𝙋𝙡𝙖𝙮𝙚𝙧 𝙞𝙣 𝙖 𝙉𝙖𝙩𝙞𝙤𝙣𝙖𝙡 𝙏𝙧𝙖𝙜𝙚𝙙𝙮:

Farage’s ambitions didn’t stop at Dover. He aligned himself with Donald Trump, spoke at MAGA rallies, and worked with Steve Bannon to build a transatlantic alliance of right-wing populists. His influence stretched into the American culture war, feeding the same lies about immigration, globalism, and democracy.

He positioned himself as a British Trump, a warrior against "the deep state." But the reality was that he was always defending entrenched power, never fighting it.

𝙏𝙝𝙚 𝙒𝙤𝙧𝙠𝙞𝙣𝙜-𝘾𝙡𝙖𝙨𝙨 𝘽𝙚𝙩𝙧𝙖𝙮𝙖𝙡:

Farage’s greatest deception wasn’t what he said — it was who he claimed to represent. Working-class voters, especially in post-industrial towns, were sold a revolution. They got deregulation, rising costs, weakened rights, and a divided society. The rich got richer. The people got slogans.

Farage played the role of rebel, but his loyalties were always to the elite — the same ones hiding money offshore, lobbying against transparency, and laughing behind the curtain. At the same time, the public turned on each other.

𝙇𝙚𝙜𝙖𝙘𝙮 𝙤𝙛 𝙍𝙪𝙞𝙣:

Today, Britain is more divided, isolated, and less secure than ever in recent history. Farage didn’t do it alone, but his fingerprints are on every broken promise, every shuttered factory, and every food bank queue.

He weaponised nostalgia. He distorted democracy. He convinced the nation to burn down the house, then walked away with the matches in his pocket.

Farage is not an outsider. He is the inside man of a very elite con — and the bill is now due.”

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Let’s see the Farage apologists laughing if the grifter becomes PM
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sadoldgit

sadoldgit

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17 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

Yeah, I do, but none of them are so obviously a WUM as Nic. You will never, ever win against him and every time you reply reflects worse and worse on you. That's what you need to understand.

The same as you and Sir Ralph?

You are no different and have had plenty of boring spats on here with other posters. In fact I seem to recall you saying that you came on here to have arguments to relieve your tension!

If it bothers you so much put us both on ignore. Job done.

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trousers

trousers

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36 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

The same as you and Sir Ralph?

You are no different and have had plenty of boring spats on here with other posters. In fact I seem to recall you saying that you came on here to have arguments to relieve your tension!

If it bothers you so much put us both on ignore. Job done.

Yeah, fancy coming on here to stoke up an argument... It'll never catch on... ;)

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Turkish

Turkish

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57 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

The same as you and Sir Ralph?

You are no different and have had plenty of boring spats on here with other posters. In fact I seem to recall you saying that you came on here to have arguments to relieve your tension!

If it bothers you so much put us both on ignore. Job done.

Typical arrogant response. If you don’t like it put me on ignore. The problem is you not me etc when you think everyone else is the problem it usually isn’t 

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Weston Super Saint

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5 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

The same as you and Sir Ralph?

You are no different and have had plenty of boring spats on here with other posters. In fact I seem to recall you saying that you came on here to have arguments to relieve your tension!

If it bothers you so much put us both on ignore. Job done.

Quoting so Farmer can see it ;)

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Farmer Saint

Farmer Saint

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2 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Quoting so Farmer can see it ;)

Thanks mate, much appreciated 👍 

It's amazing that he responds so badly to friendly advice.

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Turkish

Turkish

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9 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Thanks mate, much appreciated 👍 

It's amazing that he responds so badly to friendly advice.

His ego doesn’t take too kindly to advice pal 

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hypochondriac

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Saints won with their best result of the season. I'm having a few beers to celebrate and enjoy it and soggy is carrying on here getting snippy with one of the few posters that doesn't think he's a massive throbber. What a boring, pretentious spaz he is. Have a night off and celebrate the win you bellend.

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Turkish

Turkish

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7 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Saints won with their best result of the season. I'm having a few beers to celebrate and enjoy it and soggy is carrying on here getting snippy with one of the few posters that doesn't think he's a massive throbber. What a boring, pretentious spaz he is. Have a night off and celebrate the win you bellend.

Even his posts on the match thread were having a pop at other posters. An utter cock of a bloke 

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Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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11 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Saints won with their best result of the season. I'm having a few beers to celebrate and enjoy it and soggy is carrying on here getting snippy with one of the few posters that doesn't think he's a massive throbber. What a boring, pretentious spaz he is. Have a night off and celebrate the win you bellend.

I like my whimsical flights of fancy as much as any poster, but I find any poster not thinking that, hard to believe. 🙂

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Farmer Saint

Farmer Saint

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13 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Saints won with their best result of the season. I'm having a few beers to celebrate and enjoy it and soggy is carrying on here getting snippy with one of the few posters that doesn't think he's a massive throbber. What a boring, pretentious spaz he is. Have a night off and celebrate the win you bellend.

💯 

Farmer Saint

Farmer Saint

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2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Have a good one Farmer Saint. X

You too buddy. 

The funniest thing is, I think if we met up outside this forum we'd have a cracking evening. X

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hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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2 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

You too buddy. 

The funniest thing is, I think if we met up outside this forum we'd have a cracking evening. X

Probably mate. Got loads of friends accross the political spectrum and we get on famously. One of my best mates is a union man and proper left. It's called being a normal person. All saints fans at the end of the day. Can't stand soggy but 99% on here I'm sure are decent in real life and if nothing else I'm sure we'd have a good debate.

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Turkish

Turkish

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13 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

You too buddy. 

The funniest thing is, I think if we met up outside this forum we'd have a cracking evening. X

I know we would as we’re the same person x

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sadoldgit

sadoldgit

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2 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Does it matter if the only viewers are Reform voters looking for confirmation bias in an echo chsmber ?

Yes if it is breaking the broadcasting rules.

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Holmes_and_Watson

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3 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Does it matter if the only viewers are Reform voters looking for confirmation bias in an echo chsmber ?

SOG seems pretty obsessed with it. What if one day, he started believing in what they were saying? 

No, they should have to follow the same rules as everyone else.

#saveSOG

I guess the article feels OffCom aren't enforcing it. The rest is politics was saying this too, as someone else posted the episode the other day.

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badgerx16

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3 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Yes if it is breaking the broadcasting rules.

But, as thst article points out, OFCOM don't act as nobody is complaining, mainly because only those maroone who think Nige is a great bloke are watching it.

 

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spyinthesky

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4 minutes ago, spyinthesky said:

Its evident to see we are going down the same rabbit hole along with a fair percentage of Americans who are glued to Fox News.
And poor old BBC gets pilloried by some for political bias!!!

 

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JohnnyShearer2.0

JohnnyShearer2.0

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I have friends who are seriously considering voting Reform already in the next GE. They'd normally vote Tory but seems to be a case of anyone but Labour if it stops them retaining in government. 

Its too early yet for myself on who to vote but a lot of people are disillusioned.

Reforms social media, presence in the news etc are miles ahead of Labour and the Tories.

badgerx16

badgerx16

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8 minutes ago, JohnnyShearer2.0 said:

I have friends who are seriously considering voting Reform already in the next GE. They'd normally vote Tory but seems to be a case of anyone but Labour if it stops them retaining in government. 

Its too early yet for myself on who to vote but a lot of people are disillusioned.

Reforms social media, presence in the news etc are miles ahead of Labour and the Tories.

Our DiL's parents are arch Reform supporters; they think we should have gone into Iran alongside the US on Day 1, and what this country needs is our own Donald Trump and ICE agents. DiL's father is also the most boring person I have ever come across.

I find it amusing that, as they live in Denton, they now have a Green MP.

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Holmes_and_Watson

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50 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Our DiL's parents are arch Reform supporters; they think we should have gone into Iran alongside the US on Day 1, and what this country needs is our own Donald Trump and ICE agents. DiL's father is also the most boring person I have ever come across.

I find it amusing that, as they live in Denton, they now have a Green MP.

That's a very sneaky way of telling us you're related to SOG. 🙂

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Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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1 hour ago, JohnnyShearer2.0 said:

I have friends who are seriously considering voting Reform already in the next GE. They'd normally vote Tory but seems to be a case of anyone but Labour if it stops them retaining in government. 

Its too early yet for myself on who to vote but a lot of people are disillusioned.

Reforms social media, presence in the news etc are miles ahead of Labour and the Tories.

Hardly a surprise when they are spending 4x all of the other parties put together, from funding sources even Portsmouth FC supporters would reject as far too shady and toxic, plus the infamous Candy brothers.

Ditto Rupert Lowe, there’s 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 NF-inspired business cards being handed out with club logo in one corner, Stop the Boats in another corner, and Lowe’s face. Elon funds that and football casuals distribute them. 

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