The Reform Thread

[Turkish]

4 minutes ago, JohnnyShearer2.0 said:

I'd get a Porto cabin with Patel!

Getting jiggy with Pritti?

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

Porking with Pritti! 

Hits a few bases.

[Gloucester Saint]

14 hours ago, Turkish said:

Getting jiggy with Pritti?

Lighthouse will be getting excited.

[Gloucester Saint]

More of this from Reform and Green Party uncovered at the weekend in Sheffield during campaigning where both parties are being antisemetic quite openly https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy012knxk3lo

Fucking horrendous and pure 1930s populism. Far right and Corbynites no doubt expelled from Tories and Labour. They’re welcome to each other. The people voting need to seriously give their head a wobble however shit the current and previous government was. Voting for racists has no excuse.

[Willo of Whiteley]

Saw a good video the other day from a Ring doorbell, Reform candidate steps up to the front door, presses the button and says “I’d like to talk about why you should vote Reform”

Home owner replies “I’d rather wank with a razor”. 🤣

The problem with Reform becoming a party over the last few years is that it’s divided the racists. At least the whole rotten barrel used to be in one party.

[Gloucester Saint]

Polanski is an idiot, but Yusuf and Reform are even bigger idiots. God forbid, I actually agreed with Chris Philip on something https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c362e9p385yo

Cost of the Centres would also be £12bn - showing their continued ignorance of economics.

And people criticised the last two governments on economic policy, but don’t have to leg to stand on if they think Reform are anywhere near having a clue. 

Edited yesterday at 14:49 by Gloucester Saint

[Lord Duckhunter]

Absolutely spot on policy. I’ve posted before that the Government should have a free vote on where asylum seekers are “welcome” and where they can be housed. Watch the  hypercritical lefties  come out with all sorts of pony as to why they can’t be housed in their constituency.

This is local accountability in action, if they’re going to build detention centres, build them where local people want them. Your vote will mean something, you’ll get what you voted for, what’s not to like. Of course,  illegal migrants are only “welcome” if they live somewhere else. 

 

The Green Party’s new deputy leader Rachel Millward has been branded a “hypocrite” after she shared her “strong objection” to the placement of 600 asylum seekers in her leafy £500,000 local area. 

In her shared role as Zack Polanski’s subordinate, Ms Millward proudly declared she would hang “the flags of all the nations” to celebrate that “refugees are welcome here”.

 

Despite her previous enthusiasm, Ms Millward expressed her concerns about the use of Crowborough Army Camp to house migrants in a letter to Labour’s Home Office Minister Mike Tapp.
 

 

 

 

 

[Gloucester Saint]

Which causes mayhem for the majority who don’t vote Green.

If we’re going to race to the bottom and not govern as a single country, let’s bar Reform areas from any central government regeneration funding based on the severe economic damage they’ve done to this country.

Which would be stupid, as is Reform’s proposal here.

Pure idiot Trumpism. Policies to spite others, not to help the country. I can’t stand Polanski either but both parties sum up what a bag of wank populism is.

Edited yesterday at 17:05 by Gloucester Saint

[badgerx16]

6 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Which causes mayhem for the majority who don’t vote Green.

 

Particularly as almost every local or national poll winner doesn't get close to gaining a true majority of the constituency electorate. You would be "punishing" the majority for something they didn't do.

Edited yesterday at 17:07 by badgerx16

[The Kraken]

14 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Which causes mayhem for the majority who don’t vote Green.

If we’re going to race to the bottom and not govern as a single country, let’s bar Reform areas from any central government regeneration funding based on the severe economic damage they’ve done to this country.

Which would be stupid, as is Reform’s proposal here.

Pure idiot Trumpism. Policies to spite others, not to help the country. I can’t stand Polanski either but both parties sum up what a bag of wank populism is.

Yep, an idiotic proposal designed to appeal to the easily led simpleton. Job done, it would seem.

[Lord Duckhunter]

21 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Which causes mayhem for the majority who don’t vote Green.

So it’s ok to put illegals migrants into some areas but not others. 😂 Typical, it’s always the same. Immigrants welcome, just not near where I live. Let someone else have the “mayhem”. 
 

You’ve got people who support immigration, going on about “punishing” areas by putting immigrants there. I thought welcoming immigrants was a good thing, 😂. Now it’s a punishment.

Well done to reform, they’ve shone a light on the absolute hypocrisy of the “immigrants welcome” mob. If you vote green, you’re voting for open borders, not open borders, provided they’re not near me. 
 

Personally, I’d have MP’s given a free vote on whether they’re housed in their constituencies, the pony excuses will be a delight to see. 

Edited yesterday at 17:21 by Lord Duckhunter

[trousers]

8 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Yep, an idiotic proposal designed to appeal to the easily led simpleton. Job done, it would seem.

If attracting the votes of thickos gets you into government, then fair game I guess, given we don't discriminate against people based on intelligence in this country and/or these days...? Gotta love this democracy malarkey... I can definitely see it catching on... 

Edited yesterday at 17:24 by trousers

[Lord Duckhunter]

[Gloucester Saint]

15 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

So it’s ok to put illegals migrants into some areas but not others. 😂 Typical, it’s always the same. Immigrants welcome, just not near where I live. Let someone else have the “mayhem”. 
 

You’ve got people who support immigration, going on about “punishing” areas by putting immigrants there. I thought welcoming immigrants was a good thing, 😂. Now it’s a punishment.

Well done to reform, they’ve shone a light on the absolute hypocrisy of the “immigrants welcome” mob. If you vote green, you’re voting for open borders, not open borders, provided they’re not near me. 
 

Personally, I’d have MP’s given a free vote on whether they’re housed in their constituencies, the pony excuses will be a delight to see. 

The whole idea is borrowed from MAGA anyway and look how that’s gone with ICE losing their shit and murdering their own citizens.

But they aren’t going to get a majority, not even close, and no-one else will collaborate with them now so it won’t be a problem.

Believe it or not, plenty of people who vote for the other three parties are fine with economic migrants who significantly improve our private sector and economy and wary of asylum cases being too high. Greens under Polanski are tossers but punishing areas where 30% or lower gets a Green council is dickhead politics. 

[Gloucester Saint]

7 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

The Greens are left wing populists. Corbynites are not establishment political people any more than Reform are.

Anyway, Yusuf had it right when he said getting a Reform government elected will be a waste of his time.

Easy bruise to punch repeatedly nearer the GE with loads of posters of his words.

Neighnouring Worcs aren’t enjoying their 9% council tax rise either.

Edited yesterday at 17:40 by Gloucester Saint

[trousers]

2 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Greens under Polanski are tossers but punishing areas where 30% or lower gets a Green council is dickhead politics.

I'm not about to fly a flag for this Reform policy but.... I'm interested in why living near immigrants is deemed to be a "punishment"? 

[Gloucester Saint]

3 minutes ago, trousers said:

I'm not about to fly a flag for this Reform policy but.... I'm interested in why living near immigrants is deemed to be a "punishment"? 

Personally, I don’t think it would be but it’s a political weapon the two populist parties are using against each other.

Fundamentally, Reform’s policies are unworkable and it would be like the hotels on steroids with Farage and Lowe’s loony football casual element attracted to them like wasps around a jam jar in August.
British people won’t stand for an ICE type border force either, the current one needs to be resourced properly instead. 

Edited yesterday at 17:44 by Gloucester Saint

[egg]

26 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

So it’s ok to put illegals migrants into some areas but not others. 😂 Typical, it’s always the same. Immigrants welcome, just not near where I live. Let someone else have the “mayhem”. 
 

You’ve got people who support immigration, going on about “punishing” areas by putting immigrants there. I thought welcoming immigrants was a good thing, 😂. Now it’s a punishment.

Well done to reform, they’ve shone a light on the absolute hypocrisy of the “immigrants welcome” mob. If you vote green, you’re voting for open borders, not open borders, provided they’re not near me. 
 

Personally, I’d have MP’s given a free vote on whether they’re housed in their constituencies, the pony excuses will be a delight to see. 

They go where there's capacity, not where it'll spite a section of people. It's a stupid policy solely aimed at pleasing the stupid. 

[trousers]

2 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Personally, I don’t think it would be

Fair enough. Alas, I don't live close enough to an immigrant residence, so I'm not really in a position to comment on how good or bad it would be. 

[Turkish]

2 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Absolutely spot on policy. I’ve posted before that the Government should have a free vote on where asylum seekers are “welcome” and where they can be housed. Watch the  hypercritical lefties  come out with all sorts of pony as to why they can’t be housed in their constituency.

This is local accountability in action, if they’re going to build detention centres, build them where local people want them. Your vote will mean something, you’ll get what you voted for, what’s not to like. Of course,  illegal migrants are only “welcome” if they live somewhere else. 

 

 

The Green Party’s new deputy leader Rachel Millward has been branded a “hypocrite” after she shared her “strong objection” to the placement of 600 asylum seekers in her leafy £500,000 local area. 

In her shared role as Zack Polanski’s subordinate, Ms Millward proudly declared she would hang “the flags of all the nations” to celebrate that “refugees are welcome here”.

 

Despite her previous enthusiasm, Ms Millward expressed her concerns about the use of Crowborough Army Camp to house migrants in a letter to Labour’s Home Office Minister Mike Tapp.
 

 

 

 

 

Refugees are welcome here, just not anywhere near her. Same could be said for many of these kind, loving left wing let them come types 

[Gloucester Saint]

3 minutes ago, trousers said:

Fair enough. Alas, I don't live close enough to an immigrant residence, so I'm not really in a position to comment on how good or bad it would be. 

Egg is probably nearer to the reality, if such centres existed they’d go to areas with the infrastructure to handle it rather than say rural Herefordshire where the Greens have been gaining ground. 

[trousers]

If it turns out that living near an immigration establishment is a good thing, then Reform could be shooting themselves in the foot here...why on Earth would they want to deny their voters one of the good things in life....?

Edited yesterday at 17:54 by trousers

[Gloucester Saint]

8 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Refugees are welcome here, just not anywhere near her. Same could be said for many of these kind, loving left wing let them come types 

It’s Corbyn’s lot who have dropped away from the Labour hard left Polanski is trying to appeal to and which Reform are trying to attack as they’re both trying to gain ground next week as insurgent parties.

Labour, Tory and coalition record shows a clear scepticism of asylum seekers (as opposed to economic migration). Straw’s Home Office arguably set the tone for Teresa May’s. 

Edited yesterday at 17:58 by Gloucester Saint

[whelk]

4 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Absolutely spot on policy. I’ve posted before that the Government should have a free vote on where asylum seekers are “welcome” and where they can be housed. Watch the  hypercritical lefties  come out with all sorts of pony as to why they can’t be housed in their constituency.

This is local accountability in action, if they’re going to build detention centres, build them where local people want them. Your vote will mean something, you’ll get what you voted for, what’s not to like. Of course,  illegal migrants are only “welcome” if they live somewhere else. 

 

 

The Green Party’s new deputy leader Rachel Millward has been branded a “hypocrite” after she shared her “strong objection” to the placement of 600 asylum seekers in her leafy £500,000 local area. 

In her shared role as Zack Polanski’s subordinate, Ms Millward proudly declared she would hang “the flags of all the nations” to celebrate that “refugees are welcome here”.

 

Despite her previous enthusiasm, Ms Millward expressed her concerns about the use of Crowborough Army Camp to house migrants in a letter to Labour’s Home Office Minister Mike Tapp.
 

 

 

 

 

Fucking moron

[LuckyNumber7]

Excellent policy, love seeing the hypocrisy of the Greens exposed.

You want to welcome asylum seekers? Fine, have them on your doorstep.

[trousers]

12 minutes ago, whelk said:

Fucking moron

This is the level of intellectual debate we need to outwit those Reform voting thickos...

[whelk]

6 minutes ago, trousers said:

This is the level of intellectual debate we need to outwit those Reform voting thickos...

I don’t worry about patronising thick cunts so they don’t feel excluded and definitely not worth throwing pearls to swine. I will just laugh when they get angry that the charlatans aren’t delivering in any form and the thick gullible twats thought they would - sorry I am not that loveable altruistic guy.

Edited 23 hours ago by whelk

[whelk]

Greens are worse than Reform

[skintsaint]

23 minutes ago, LuckyNumber7 said:

Excellent policy, love seeing the hypocrisy of the Greens exposed.

You want to welcome asylum seekers? Fine, have them on your doorstep.

An amusing move from Reform in looking at the response of the Greens, showing them up as NIMBYS.

[Lord Duckhunter]

15 hours ago, skintsaint said:

An amusing move from Reform in looking at the response of the Greens, showing them up as NIMBYS.

Not just the Greens. We’ve had Tory MP’s talking about “punishment”, a Lib Dem saying that “decent people” will fight this, and of course the Labour Party. Even on here posters have said they’re “punishing” non reform voters. It’s a fucking great big elephant trap and the “migrants welcome” mob have fallen right into it. Great move the week of local elections.

[The Kraken]

‘A great move’ 🤣

It’s appealing to the reform base but as a political move it’s childlike. The argument is that issues of cost, practicality and safety should all be ignored because upsetting Green voters is the biggest priority. But then that’s reform, populist division plays well to the base.

[Gloucester Saint]

16 hours ago, whelk said:

Greens are worse than Reform

They’re two ends of the same populist wedge. Both also been caught using anti-Semitic messaging during this local elections campaign.

Reform-led councils have been a disaster so far plagued by infighting/bans for racism and I can’t envisage Green-led councils being much better, if at all, quite frankly. 

Edited 7 hours ago by Gloucester Saint

[badgerx16]

Why bother to put them in temporary camps  ? Why not snatch them off the streets and deport them immediately ? Saves even more money.

Edited 6 hours ago by badgerx16

[Gloucester Saint]

6 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Why bother to put them in temporary camps  ? Why not snatch them off the streets and deport them immediately ? Saves even more money.

You’ve pre-emptied what they really want to do but scared of the backlash post-ICE debacle. They are a plastic Trump tribute act so it’s a logical step.

Edited 6 hours ago by Gloucester Saint

[Holmes_and_Watson]

46 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Why bother to put them in temporary camps  ? Why not snatch them off the streets and deport them immediately ? Saves even more money.

It's a plan. But there's a cost to the street snatchers. Why not a Defence Spending Bill gives the Navy money for fast gunboats. Money they'd be getting anyway. Combined with a Channel Crossing amendment, they now have target practice. There. A reduction on "punishment" that locals have to put up with.

If we're going to shed pesky things like decency for control and cost effectiveness.

"Right Wing is still right!"

Vote Jodhpur Militia this Thursday!

 

 

 

 

[whelk]

I might even vote Tory on Thursday. A few of their councillors are the acceptable face and seem to genuinely care about local issues.

 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

23 minutes ago, whelk said:

I might even vote Tory on Thursday. A few of their councillors are the acceptable face and seem to genuinely care about local issues.

 

I'm in the same...ah...maybe saying "same boat" isn't the best expression.

A bit of tactical voting for me too. But they are more centrist than wherever the broader party wants to pull them on any given week. And local policy wise tick more boxes than the others.

[The Kraken]

I genuinely have no idea how I’ll vote. Definitely not Labour, the Southampton council has been disgracefully run. Obviously not Reform either. So it’s a shit sandwich of a choice after that.

[iansums]

9 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

I genuinely have no idea how I’ll vote. Definitely not Labour, the Southampton council has been disgracefully run. Obviously not Reform either. So it’s a shit sandwich of a choice after that.

No local election in our area this week, which is irrelevant anyway in my case 😜

[ecuk268]

44 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

I genuinely have no idea how I’ll vote. Definitely not Labour, the Southampton council has been disgracefully run. Obviously not Reform either. So it’s a shit sandwich of a choice after that.

As a Southampton resident and sort of centre-left, I'd agree. 

They've completely cocked-up the city-centre road layout and are looking to make it even worse. 

My ward councillors are Lib-Dems. One is quite good but the other one has ignored me when I contacted him about a couple of local issues.

 

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, iansums said:

No local election in our area this week, which is irrelevant anyway in my case 😜

Ditto. No such restrictions on my vote next year unless there’s an edict from SWF. 

[Weston Super Saint]

No elections in my area. Guess that means no useless Greens or Reform coming our way.

[badgerx16]

3 hours ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

It's a plan. But there's a cost to the street snatchers. Why not a Defence Spending Bill gives the Navy money for fast gunboats. Money they'd be getting anyway. Combined with a Channel Crossing amendment, they now have target practice. There. A reduction on "punishment" that locals have to put up with.

If we're going to shed pesky things like decency for control and cost effectiveness.

"Right Wing is still right!"

Vote Jodhpur Militia this Thursday!

 

 

 

 

There's an idea, re the Navy; we need to ncrease the surface fleet, and therefore the number of ratings required to crew the ships, so bring back the press gang, or at least a variation on it. All able bodied immigrant men of working age, who so desperately want to be here, serve 4 years at sea. After all, they are already experienced sea farers after crossing the Channel in small boats.

If they finish their term with a good record, then their asylum applications will be looked upon favourably.

Edited 2 hours ago by badgerx16

[Holmes_and_Watson]

22 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

There's an idea, re the Navy; we need to ncrease the surface fleet, and therefore the number of ratings required to crew the ships, so bring back the press gang, or at least a variation on it. All able bodied immigrant men of working age, who so desperately want to be here, serve 4 years at sea. After all, they are already experienced sea farers after crossing the Channel in small boats.

If they finish their term with a good record, then their asylum applications will be looked upon favourably.

I caught something on Times radio saying there were 30 rear admirals. It might have said you could have a rear admirals on every available, decent sized ship we have, and have plenty to spare. 

So, more money saving by abolishing the rank of Captain. Rear Admirals overseeing immigrant manned ships, supplied by our new third party, the French people smugglers.

Obviously, when we get enough ships/small boats we shall invade Brittany. Reclaiming our rightful land. While also cutting out our middle person's.

This right wing leadership is easy!

You just need the one thing. To be a sociopath. Looks at other parties, and notices similar personalities...

 

[whelk]

£5m donation to Farage who says with a straight face on tv it is to keep him safe. 
The same saps who seethe over misdemeanours such as Rayner’s will just swallow this up. And then cry when everyone calls them thick gullible fucks

 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

27 minutes ago, whelk said:

£5m donation to Farage who says with a straight face on tv it is to keep him safe. 
The same saps who seethe over misdemeanours such as Rayner’s will just swallow this up. And then cry when everyone calls them thick gullible fucks

 

Sadly, the opening sentence wasn't "to keep him safely out of the way."

The Beeb article quotes are at pains to point out the donations were made before Farage declared  publically, that he was going to stand.

Rayner seems to be wanting Starmer to announce a time table of departure, after Thursday. Like Blair did. But mainly to give her more time to sort out that HMRC issue. But she presumably feels it's important to resolve. Or at least that her acceptance depends on it. Farage? He would just laugh such things off and plough on.

I give Ed Davey and Labour what I think is fair criticism. But Farage, as was Johnson, are on a different level of repulsive.