Who do we want next as Saints manager?

[The Kraken]

9 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Do you need this one explained to you?

 

Is that a joke, or is that you pointing out a video that you found enjoyable? Apparently they can be different things.

[Matthew Le God]

11 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Is that a joke, or is that you pointing out a video that you found enjoyable? Apparently they can be different things.

Not at all comparable. That video is there for context, the Norway game was 44 years ago. Many won't be aware of it! There is text written by me in that post. There was not any text in the other thread, only a video written by someone else.

Edited Saturday at 21:41 by Matthew Le God

[The Kraken]

3 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Not at all comparable. That video is there for context, the Norway game was 44 years ago. Many won't be aware of it! There is text written by me in that post. There was not any text in the other thread, only a video written by someone else.

Thanks for explaining your joke 👍

[Matthew Le God]

2 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Thanks for explaining your joke 👍

There is no explanation in the post you just quoted.

[The Kraken]

1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said:

There is no explanation in the post you just quoted.

Nonsense. You explained a number of things!

[Matthew Le God]

Just now, The Kraken said:

Nonsense. You explained a number of things!

Nonsense. It does not contain an explanation of the joke.

[The Kraken]

8 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Nonsense. It does not contain an explanation of the joke.

In that post I didn’t say it did, I said that your post explained a number of  things, which it did,

[pimpin4rizeal]

5 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

How well did he organise a defence against a team which hadn’t scored at home since Christmas?

 

3 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said:

That defence wasn’t organised. Several times two players went for the same ball or got in each other’s way. It got lucky today but that’s all we needed.

Lol have a day off guys . Rusk has walked into a absolute shit show of a club leaking 3-4 goals a games he’s made an assessment that the best way for us is to try and stay in games and for the most part he’s done that even when not getting results like villa and Fulham.

he’s stopped us getting smashed every week and today got us past derbys embarrassing record and against city of all teams .. it’s a good day not sure why people are trying to discredit him

[MindtheGab]

It's Rohl vs Still

[trousers]

1 hour ago, MindtheGab said:

It's Rohl vs Still

# Interesting first post klaxon #

🙂

[SteveGc]

2 hours ago, MindtheGab said:

It's Rohl vs Still

Had better. Not be Still has disaster. Written all over it 

[Wade Garrett]

4 hours ago, SteveGc said:

Had better. Not be Still has disaster. Written all over it 

Still will not sell season tickets.

[Jaime]

6 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Still will not sell season tickets.

Would like to think it's the love of the club ... the team you support, that sells tickets 

Plus, I think it's a much more interesting choice of those particular two.

[Give it to Ron]

9 minutes ago, Jaime said:

Would like to think it's the love of the club ... the team you support, that sells tickets 

Plus, I think it's a much more interesting choice of those particular two.

I just don’t understand with all we have been through with shit management why  you would even consider Still. Cooper is the obvious choice perhaps that’s the problem.

[Miltonaggro]

54 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Still will not sell season tickets.

Will Still would however be peak Sport Republic, despite us being treated to Nathan Jones. If these bozos are that stupid, season ticket renewals will be the least of their worries. 

[Matthew Le God]

6 hours ago, SteveGc said:

Had better. Not be Still has disaster. Written all over it 

 

27 minutes ago, Miltonaggro said:

Will Still would however be peak Sport Republic, despite us being treated to Nathan Jones. If these bozos are that stupid, season ticket renewals will be the least of their worries. 

He isn't a novice manager. He has quite a few years under his belt now.

[West end Saints]

Just playing around with chatgpt and thought would ask who we should have, to get us promoted with preference to high energy football....

 

Based on your criteria — successful promotion campaign, attacking high-energy football — here's how the four candidates stack up:

---

1. Steve Cooper — Best Fit

Pros:

Promotion experience: Took Nottingham Forest from the bottom of the Championship to the Premier League in 2022.

Championship savvy: Knows how to build momentum over a long campaign.

Flexible but intense: Teams play with good structure and energy; can adapt between possession and pressing styles.

Cons:

Not known for ultra-attacking football; more pragmatic when needed.

Premier League tenure with Forest turned more conservative.

Verdict: Most proven at getting promotion quickly — your safest and strongest bet for the goal.

---

2. Danny Röhl — Rising Star

Pros:

High-energy football: Transformed Sheffield Wednesday with an aggressive pressing style.

Tactical pedigree: Coached under Hasenhüttl, Nagelsmann, Flick — elite footballing minds.

Modern coach: Brings intensity, tactical structure, and ambition.

Cons:

No experience gaining promotion (yet).

Very new to head coaching — still proving consistency across a season.

Verdict: High-upside gamble — could bring both promotion and exciting football, but riskier than Cooper.

---

3. Will Still — Potential but Unproven

Pros:

Young, modern coach who favors attacking football.

Strong communicator with players; brought success to Reims (France).

Cons:

No Championship experience.

No track record of promotion or managing in England.

Verdict: Exciting idea, but a real risk given lack of experience with English football or promotion races.

---

4. Frank Lampard — High Profile, Low Reward

Pros:

Knows English football well.

Promoted Derby to the play-offs with an attacking style.

Cons:

Poor recent record: struggles at Chelsea, Everton.

Questionable tactical identity and adaptability.

No promotion success despite big resources at Derby.

Verdict: Big name but least suited based on recent record and inconsistency.

---

Final Ranking (Best to Worst Fit for Your Goals):

1. Steve Cooper – proven, safe choice with promotion on his CV.

2. Danny Röhl – high-upside, exciting gamble.

3. Will Still – potential for future, but premature for this role.

4. Frank Lampard – not aligned with success or style objectives.
 

Personally my feeling is that Danny Rohl would be the best fit and connect with the fans best

[Fabrice29]

Steve ‘safe choice’ Cooper continues to have more promotion failures from the Championship on his CV than successful ones btw. 

Edited yesterday at 08:40 by Fabrice29

[Wade Garrett]

2 hours ago, Jaime said:

Would like to think it's the love of the club ... the team you support, that sells tickets 

Plus, I think it's a much more interesting choice of those particular two.

For me, it would show a total lack of ambition.  I’m finding it hard to justify renewing after the shitshow of this season and 2 seasons ago.

However, if I can see the club is going to really go for it next season then I will renew.  If not, I’m not throwing more money away for something I don’t particularly enjoy any more, no matter how much I love the club.

I’m massively pissed off with the club trying to be too clever with transfer business and managerial appointments.  If they don’t change direction, I’ll follow the club from my armchair.

[Wade Garrett]

4 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Steve ‘safe choice’ Cooper continues to have more promotion failures from the Championship on his CV than successful ones btw. 

I hardly think not getting Swansea promoted is a failure.  He did really well with the young England teams as well.

Not that I’m hanging my hat on him mind you.

[ally_uk]

Said Cooper would be the most sensible appointment. Steady the ship......

[Fabrice29]

2 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

I hardly think not getting Swansea promoted is a failure.  He did really well with the young England teams as well.

Not that I’m hanging my hat on him mind you.

Well two play off defeats is more failures than 1 play off victory. I don’t mind Cooper and would be satisfied enough if he was appointed but the idea that anyone, especially him, is paraded as an ‘obvious’ ‘proven’ ‘safe choice’ doesn’t really stand up. 

[Fabrice29]

1 minute ago, ally_uk said:

Said Cooper would be the most sensible appointment. Steady the ship......

What does that even mean 🤣

[Lord Duckhunter]

17 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Well two play off defeats is more failures than 1 play off victory. I don’t mind Cooper and would be satisfied enough if he was appointed but the idea that anyone, especially him, is paraded as an ‘obvious’ ‘proven’ ‘safe choice’ doesn’t really stand up. 

You’re conflating obvious with guaranteed. 
 

Personally, I reckon he’ll get a premier league job, so it’s a  pretty pointless discussion. But anyone who thinks his record and experience is trumped by Rohl or Frank Fucking Lampard is deluded….

[Fabrice29]

Just now, Lord Duckhunter said:

You’re conflating obvious with guaranteed. 
 

Personally, I reckon he’ll get a premier league job, so it’s a  pretty pointless discussion. But anyone who thinks his record and experience is trumped by Rohl or Frank Fucking Lampard is deluded….

I don’t think his record or experience is trumped by those. But I also don’t think those things correlate to doing a good job next time and certainly wouldn’t point to his record or experience to suggest he was an obvious or safe appointment so I’m wondering others do. 

Agree with you that he’s not going to be a realistic appointment anyway though. 

[Convict Colony]

Honestly the disrespect for will still here is harsh.

He did a great job mid season at Rheims and doing a good job at lens a big club in France.

From what I know his fiancee is based in England so would make sense he's looking to head home.

Would prefer Rohl but would be ok with Still based on the last few years of coaching he's produced in France, might help with Valenciennes as well with communicating ideas to their mgmt etc.

[Miltonaggro]

2 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

 

He isn't a novice manager. He has quite a few years under his belt now.

Nothing to do with him being a ‘novice’ manager or otherwise. 

[Matthew Le God]

2 minutes ago, Miltonaggro said:

Nothing to do with him being a ‘novice’ manager or otherwise. 

What is the objection then?

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 hour ago, ally_uk said:

Said Cooper would be the most sensible appointment. Steady the ship......

 

1 hour ago, Fabrice29 said:

What does that even mean 🤣

 

On 10/05/2025 at 08:43, Toadhall Saint said:

The only ship I can think of in regards to saints is the titanic.

 

On 10/05/2025 at 08:46, Matthew Le God said:

The Mayflower

If we followed MLG's idea to have the Mayflower on the badge to represent our naval links, it would give us a ship to steady. 🙂

[miserableoldgit]

2 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

 

 

 

If we followed MLG's idea to have the Mayflower on the badge to represent our naval links, it would give us a ship to steady. 🙂

Technically, the Mayflower didn't leave from Southampton.

[Miltonaggro]

2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

What is the objection then?

Another ‘left field’ appointment would appear to be the last thing we need right now. Still’s main claim to fame appears to be that he is known as the young man who went from gamer to manager, that would be the U.K. press angle.  Lens under Still’s management are likely to end up in a lower league position than the last two seasons under Montainier and Haise - so he’s not pulled up any trees in a poor league. He has no English football league experience at all, and rather then lift or galvanise a disenfranchised fanbase would likely deepen the current rift between the majority of long suffering fans and a board that has presided over a debacle since the day they arrived. The two permanent appointments made by Sport Republic to this point were both questioned by the majority fanbase on appointment and Still would likely be exactly the same - a work experience / work in progress appointment. From a personal perspective, I think that he is comes across as a chancer in interviews and is the last type of hire required at this point. 

What makes you think he’s the right fit?  

[Matthew Le God]

6 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

If we followed MLG's idea to have the Mayflower on the badge to represent our naval links, it would give us a ship to steady. 🙂

If you read my post in context of what it was replying to you would see at no point have I said it should be on the badge. All I did was name another famous ship that had a connection to Southampton. 

[Matthew Le God]

1 minute ago, Miltonaggro said:

What makes you think he’s the right fit?  

I have not claimed he was, I was asking why he wasn't.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 minute ago, miserableoldgit said:

Technically, the Mayflower didn't leave from Southampton.

Well it's MLG. So that's hardly going to stop him. Don't let it's ties with Plymouth, or it's appearance or their badge and Boston's make you prejudge. Don't let MLG's quickly discredited attempt at linking the Pilgrims with St Mary's dissuade you. You might not have read his post regarding 1620 ship repair times, that makes the Mayflower ours. All on the crest thread, if you find there's nothing else on the planet worth doing, and you want a chuckle.

On the manager front, either Rohl, Still or any number of up and coming managers may prove to be decent. SR's record of picking any of them is zero for their PL goal. I'd prefer a steadier, more experienced manager. Because someone has to be strong enough to tell SR what's needed, and work with Spors, rather than following what SR happen to believe a master plan is.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

9 hours ago, SteveGc said:

Had better. Not be Still has disaster. Written all over it 

 

3 hours ago, Miltonaggro said:

Will Still would however be peak Sport Republic, despite us being treated to Nathan Jones. If these bozos are that stupid, season ticket renewals will be the least of their worries. 

 

3 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

 

He isn't a novice manager. He has quite a few years under his belt now.

I'm not seeing any reference in the first two posts regarding Still's experience. Could you explain where you're seeing that MLG?

[Matthew Le God]

10 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

I'm not seeing any reference in the first two posts regarding Still's experience. Could you explain where you're seeing that MLG?

I did not say they had. I was mentioning it as it is a common objection.

[Matthew Le God]

32 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Well it's MLG. So that's hardly going to stop him. Don't let it's ties with Plymouth, or it's appearance or their badge and Boston's make you prejudge. Don't let MLG's quickly discredited attempt at linking the Pilgrims with St Mary's dissuade you. You might not have read his post regarding 1620 ship repair times, that makes the Mayflower ours. All on the crest thread, if you find there's nothing else on the planet worth doing, and you want a chuckle.

On the manager front, either Rohl, Still or any number of up and coming managers may prove to be decent. SR's record of picking any of them is zero for their PL goal. I'd prefer a steadier, more experienced manager. Because someone has to be strong enough to tell SR what's needed, and work with Spors, rather than following what SR happen to believe a master plan is.

Riddled with strawman fallacies. Well done for fitting so many into one post! 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said:

I did not say they had. I was mentioning it as it is a common objection.

So you were just disagreeing with a point that no one had made in posts, you felt the need to quote. Thanks for confirming.

[S-Clarke]

Stop ruining every thread MLG.

[Matthew Le God]

1 hour ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

So you were just disagreeing with a point that no one had made in posts, you felt the need to quote. Thanks for confirming.

I was discussing. Internet forums are for discussing. 

[Willo of Whiteley]

14 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Stop ruining every thread MLG.

He does the same on Twitter. Pops up all over the timeline. 🤣

[Weston Super Saint]

1 hour ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

So you were just disagreeing with a point that no one had made in posts, you felt the need to quote. Thanks for confirming.

He'd argue if locked in a shipping container, on his own, in the middle of the North sea.

[Matthew Le God]

5 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

He does the same on Twitter. Pops up all over the timeline. 🤣

Why are you reading them then if it annoys you?

[Kermitzasaint]

5 hours ago, West end Saints said:

Just playing around with chatgpt and thought would ask who we should have, to get us promoted with preference to high energy football....

 

Based on your criteria — successful promotion campaign, attacking high-energy football — here's how the four candidates stack up:

---

1. Steve Cooper — Best Fit

Pros:

Promotion experience: Took Nottingham Forest from the bottom of the Championship to the Premier League in 2022.

Championship savvy: Knows how to build momentum over a long campaign.

Flexible but intense: Teams play with good structure and energy; can adapt between possession and pressing styles.

Cons:

Not known for ultra-attacking football; more pragmatic when needed.

Premier League tenure with Forest turned more conservative.

Verdict: Most proven at getting promotion quickly — your safest and strongest bet for the goal.

---

2. Danny Röhl — Rising Star

Pros:

High-energy football: Transformed Sheffield Wednesday with an aggressive pressing style.

Tactical pedigree: Coached under Hasenhüttl, Nagelsmann, Flick — elite footballing minds.

Modern coach: Brings intensity, tactical structure, and ambition.

Cons:

No experience gaining promotion (yet).

Very new to head coaching — still proving consistency across a season.

Verdict: High-upside gamble — could bring both promotion and exciting football, but riskier than Cooper.

---

3. Will Still — Potential but Unproven

Pros:

Young, modern coach who favors attacking football.

Strong communicator with players; brought success to Reims (France).

Cons:

No Championship experience.

No track record of promotion or managing in England.

Verdict: Exciting idea, but a real risk given lack of experience with English football or promotion races.

---

4. Frank Lampard — High Profile, Low Reward

Pros:

Knows English football well.

Promoted Derby to the play-offs with an attacking style.

Cons:

Poor recent record: struggles at Chelsea, Everton.

Questionable tactical identity and adaptability.

No promotion success despite big resources at Derby.

Verdict: Big name but least suited based on recent record and inconsistency.

---

Final Ranking (Best to Worst Fit for Your Goals):

1. Steve Cooper – proven, safe choice with promotion on his CV.

2. Danny Röhl – high-upside, exciting gamble.

3. Will Still – potential for future, but premature for this role.

4. Frank Lampard – not aligned with success or style objectives.
 

Personally my feeling is that Danny Rohl would be the best fit and connect with the fans best

Interesting that Chat GPT ignored Rohl horrendous recent form but mentioned other coaches form

[Jaime]

5 hours ago, Wade Garrett said:

For me, it would show a total lack of ambition.  I’m finding it hard to justify renewing after the shitshow of this season and 2 seasons ago.

However, if I can see the club is going to really go for it next season then I will renew.  If not, I’m not throwing more money away for something I don’t particularly enjoy any more, no matter how much I love the club.

I’m massively pissed off with the club trying to be too clever with transfer business and managerial appointments.  If they don’t change direction, I’ll follow the club from my armchair.

That's fair enough. 

I would just say that I don't think they make appointments and signings just to be clever. That would be at the bottom of the list of criteria. 

[ChrisPY]

3 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

I have not claimed he was, I was asking why he wasn't.

It’s not down to him to prove or explain why the existence of a fit between Still and Southampton doesn’t exist.

[Matthew Le God]

16 minutes ago, ChrisPY said:

It’s not down to him to prove or explain why the existence of a fit between Still and Southampton doesn’t exist.

I haven't said it is.

[ChrisPY]

2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

I haven't said it is.

I didn’t say you did.

[miserableoldgit]

1 minute ago, ChrisPY said:

I didn’t say you did.

You forgot to add "Strawman fallacy".....this has to be included in all posts connected with MLG....

[Holmes_and_Watson]

7 hours ago, West end Saints said:

Just playing around with chatgpt and thought would ask who we should have, to get us promoted with preference to high energy football....

 

Based on your criteria — successful promotion campaign, attacking high-energy football — here's how the four candidates stack up:

---

1. Steve Cooper — Best Fit

Pros:

Promotion experience: Took Nottingham Forest from the bottom of the Championship to the Premier League in 2022.

Championship savvy: Knows how to build momentum over a long campaign.

Flexible but intense: Teams play with good structure and energy; can adapt between possession and pressing styles.

Cons:

Not known for ultra-attacking football; more pragmatic when needed.

Premier League tenure with Forest turned more conservative.

Verdict: Most proven at getting promotion quickly — your safest and strongest bet for the goal.

---

2. Danny Röhl — Rising Star

Pros:

High-energy football: Transformed Sheffield Wednesday with an aggressive pressing style.

Tactical pedigree: Coached under Hasenhüttl, Nagelsmann, Flick — elite footballing minds.

Modern coach: Brings intensity, tactical structure, and ambition.

Cons:

No experience gaining promotion (yet).

Very new to head coaching — still proving consistency across a season.

Verdict: High-upside gamble — could bring both promotion and exciting football, but riskier than Cooper.

---

3. Will Still — Potential but Unproven

Pros:

Young, modern coach who favors attacking football.

Strong communicator with players; brought success to Reims (France).

Cons:

No Championship experience.

No track record of promotion or managing in England.

Verdict: Exciting idea, but a real risk given lack of experience with English football or promotion races.

---

4. Frank Lampard — High Profile, Low Reward

Pros:

Knows English football well.

Promoted Derby to the play-offs with an attacking style.

Cons:

Poor recent record: struggles at Chelsea, Everton.

Questionable tactical identity and adaptability.

No promotion success despite big resources at Derby.

Verdict: Big name but least suited based on recent record and inconsistency.

---

Final Ranking (Best to Worst Fit for Your Goals):

1. Steve Cooper – proven, safe choice with promotion on his CV.

2. Danny Röhl – high-upside, exciting gamble.

3. Will Still – potential for future, but premature for this role.

4. Frank Lampard – not aligned with success or style objectives.
 

Personally my feeling is that Danny Rohl would be the best fit and connect with the fans best

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