Summer transfer/exodus window 2026

[spyinthesky]

1 minute ago, S-Clarke said:

If he doesn't have the appetite to go again, then he needs to ditch us ASAP and find new investment who does have an appetite. He's caused this mess.

He either fixes it aggressively, (doubtful), or he gives the keys to someone who can.

Cant see how Solak caused the problem unless he was actively involved.
Careful what you ask for as there are worse owners than Solak about.

[BotleySaint]

Ultimately, no player will leave unless another team makes an appropriate bid. We don't need to sell anyone on the cheap. No matter how much they may want to leave we'd be idiots to sell ourselves short.

If things go well, we could be challenging for promotion again next year. So unless a Premier League club comes in for someone like Finn Azaz, Scienza etc. they might end up staying put?

[S-Clarke]

6 minutes ago, spyinthesky said:

Cant see how Solak caused the problem unless he was actively involved.
Careful what you ask for as there are worse owners than Solak about.

This argument is really winding me up. Worse owners around? Look at the what the fuck these guys have done to this football club since 2022! Just look!

Don't mind me if I do ask for a hell of a lot more than we have today.

[qwertyell]

Just now, spyinthesky said:

Cant see how Solak caused the problem unless he was actively involved

It's his general lack of active involvement that's possibly the problem - he entrusts the running of the club to a cavalcade of drooling imbeciles; writes the cheques and leaves them be to do their worst. Which they're astoundingly good at.

Perhaps a more hands on owner would get a grip of this amateurish rabble and help navigate around the several rakes we've mindlessly trodden on during the last four years. 

Perhaps.

[SNSUN]

44 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

What exciting players do we have out on loan are coming back and ready to rock?

Bazunu, Suagwara, Taylor, Larios, ABK, BBD, Smallbone, Aribo, Downs???

Bella-Kotchap is no longer with us, joined Hellas Verona permanently in February. Taylor, Smallbone and Aribo are all out of contract thank God.  So really it's Baz, Sugawara, Larios, BBD and Downs on the "please get out of my club" list. I suspect someone will want Sugawara after he's been picked for the WC. Larios - maybe someone in Spain will want him as he keeps getting loans there. BBD should get interest from someone else in the Championship.

Leaving Baz and Downs. It's possible they might stink the place out next season unless we can offload them. Downs I hope still has some credibility in Germany. With no other GKs bar youth contracted, we may be looking at Bazunu back in some capacity. There's a lot of work to do for whoever becomes our manager.

[Suhari]

I hope we keep Spors, assuming he is not involved in the spying of course. He's done a good job.

He'll certainly need to play a blinder in the summer transfer window too.

[Fabrice29]

With Peretz going back I believe it was suggested that him and Charles were the plan for next year if we went up, I wonder if Charles can be convinced to be our number 1 now. 

[Saint86]

I suspect emotions are very raw and will remain that way for a while. But right now nothing can happen as the window is shut. The club have to move very quickly to reset the coaching and backroom setup, and to try and assuage / mitigate the toxicity and anger that is building. Fundamentally, it was (until this point), and amazing season. The bond between the players doesn't go because of this, nor does the bond with the fans. Get rid of the back eggs that have caused this furore, get rid of those that really don't want to be here, then close ranks and try to go again.

IMO, we need to go out right now and get a proper name manager in. A bit like Koeman during the summer of discontent.

In many ways, the on the field impact is like we lost the playoff final - the same players will want to move as in that eventuality. The rest can be healed - if the club get it right. What matters now is that the right decisions are taken, and that the club does all it can to make amends with the fans, the players, and with the media / public perception.

There is a scenario where they pull this out of the fire, and we're sat here next may having rebuilt the club and righted these wrongs... but i reckon its about a 10-20% chance, and there is a higher risk that we slip to mid table obscurity or lower, with a poor squad and money wasted, lose the parachute payments, and start sliding quite quickly to oblivion. Its imperative that they sort out the DoF position asap - i.e., if Spors is going, from a purely sporting perspective that needs resolving almost before anything else can happen squad/coaching side.

Edited 2 hours ago by Saint86

[jamesfp1]

1 Million in cash to each of the starting 11 to stay on and go again. Free to leave end of next season.

[redkeith]

As others have said previously, it is  a very bad year for this to happen, when we had the core of a team that could at least be competitive in the PL and a good manager.  Peretz, THB, Charles, Jander Scienza and Larin could have been built on, now they will all be off.  Maybe not as good as the Fonte, Scheiderlin, Lambert, Lallana combo, but a  with much better keeper. They would probably all have left if we lost on Saturday anyway.

 I still think there may be a case for keeping Tonda and putting him on a written warning. He is gulty of something that is completely normal in any other league in Europe.  He is a very good manager, and people will get over it. Biesla is remembered for transforming Leeds, not for spying on every other team in the Championship.

If West Ham want Downes then swap him for JWP and some cash.  

Get rid of all the keepers, unless Peretz doesn't get a better offer. We will probably loose a lot on Ramsdale. In an ideal world he  could go to Bayern as back up.  

Offer Bree a new contract, he has been great since he came back. Let all the other out of contract players go.

Extend Charles, to put his price up, extend Ross, because he is very good at this level. 

Sell Edozie, unless he wants to extend. 

Sell Sugawara. Sell BBD and buy Ballard back. 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by redkeith

[SNSUN]

33 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

With Peretz going back I believe it was suggested that him and Charles were the plan for next year if we went up, I wonder if Charles can be convinced to be our number 1 now. 

I'd take a punt on Charles but he was injured twice last season with shoulder injuries which is a concern. Other clubs like Leeds, QPR and the Old Firm duo are interested. 

Plus his brother will probably warn him about joining such a bonkers club. 😁 

[Saint Matty 76]

We've still got the base of a decent Championship side, but we'll immediately lose the players who looked like they could play above the level in Peretz, THB, Jander and Scienza who were the real difference makers. 

Assuming we'll only now be able to replace those with reasonable Championship players given the situation, we do now suddenly seem quite ordinary and reliant on players who were bit-part this year taking a huge step-up (Wood, Bragg, Fellows).

Will need to use the loan market extremely well for quite a few gaps this time around I think.

[swedish dave]

There'll be a lot more than simple in/ out transfers. Those who are determined to leave will obviously go

and we can (hopefully) get a good return on the deals for those who do depart.

The key question will be WHO will manage the side next season ?..as it seems an obvious conclusion that

Tonda will leave ..and so players will want to know who the new "gaffer" will be ...and PDQ.

Team building will be back to Square One, starting at the back. I won't start quoting names as some are

fairly obvious, and some others may be unexpected.

 

 

[Saint Matty 76]

Sudden winners in this by the way are Bree and Stewart who are probably now looking at twice as favourable contract terms, if they even would still stay.

Edited 2 hours ago by Saint Matty 76

[Patrick Bateman]

I had completely forgotten about Ramsdale ... 

[BotleySaint]

1 hour ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

We've still got the base of a decent Championship side, but we'll immediately lose the players who looked like they could play above the level in Peretz, THB, Jander and Scienza who were the real difference makers. 

Assuming suitable bids come in yes. But otherwise, we won't be immediately losing anyone?

If no-one in the Premiership wants them, and no option to go abroad. Where else do they think they will play?

Edited 1 hour ago by BotleySaint

[Stu Man Do]

Would it make sense to try and bridge the gap with our players to offer anyone who stays for next season their promotion bonus, which I read is circa 100k. Perhaps a % increase on wages and a bigger raise if we do go up?

Think the players will walk for whatever other offers they get if we don't make a concerted effort to keep them!

Gutted about Peretz most likely not staying. Got to love a keeper who is both decent and a bit mad!

[chownie20]

Ignoring out of contract players, from the current squad we will lose:

Peretz and Larin, THB (20m), Jander (25m), Scienza (25m), Charles (25m), Ramsdale (20m).

Like him or not BBD was a key part of a side who almost made the playoffs, so there is either a use case or some income there too.  Likewise Sugawara we might get a couple of £m.  We need to keep Downes, but for £20m or more he is replaceable. 

Sign a strong CB and the back four stays the same with the addition of Roeslev as backup to Bree, presuming he regains fitness.  To my mind then, we need a GK, decent ball playing CB, a flair wing player, two solid CMs, a big target man.

Need to use the loan market effectively and remain smart about who we sign, we cant afford another Damion Downs cock up.  That Morris guy at Boro cost them £5m,  Morsy for Bristol was free, Dan Neil for Ipswich on loan, etc.

Think we need to remember that Jander, Leo, Azaz etc were only £12m, so the trick is going to be recruiting smart again this time.  A real shame we need to go back to square one with it after building a strong squad, but its do'able, and I dont buy that money has run out, its just a case of staying the right size of the rules (!!!).

In a sense its good that the squad is in the right shape at the moment, as we just have to aim for "like for like" replacements as much as possible with comings and goings.

Above all, we could do with Spors being vindicated, remaining in post, getting a new manager in ASAP, and commencing the work early on unearthing more like Jander, Peretz etc.

Edited 57 minutes ago by chownie20
tbh typo

[samhammond]

6 hours ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Shea Charles will go, I’ve been saying it for a while. One year left, deal has been on the table forever.

Saints have an extra year option on Charles, so he's essentially got two years left.

Obviously, he is still going to go - but hopefully means we get a bit more.

[Saints-1994]

Think a lot of people are panicking that we’ll lose everyone, I’m not seeing it myself. All teams go through this and you never lose everyone. We might have some players that couple possibly step up, but our the teams above willing to pay the asking fees? 

We will lose a lot of wages this year with some of our high earners deadwood leaving: Aribo, McCarthy, Romeu. The rumoured figure to break even is 50:

Selling (highly likely)

- BBD (Derby have an option of 7, no?) 

- Ramsdale: he’s an English keeper. Someone will want him and we’ll get at least 15 (with the 5 from Toon this season that’s money back and wages gone). 

- Sugawara (5m option) 

- Charles (15m unless he signs a new deal)

- Larios (1m) 

- Fernandes (sell on clause)

That’s the 50 near enough there. 
 

Selling (if we can)

Bazunu, Downs, Archer, Edozie - 20m? 
 

If we manage that, then the big players THB, Leo, Jander will only go if the right money is paid. Which can be reinvested.

 

[TheSoundman]

3 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

This argument is really winding me up. Worse owners around? Look at the what the fuck these guys have done to this football club since 2022! Just look!

Don't mind me if I do ask for a hell of a lot more than we have today.

I hear the Sheffield Wednesday guy is looking for a new club...

[TheSoundman]

3 hours ago, SNSUN said:

Leaving Baz and Downs. It's possible they might stink the place out next season unless we can offload them. Downs I hope still has some credibility in Germany. With no other GKs bar youth contracted, we may be looking at Bazunu back in some capacity. There's a lot of work to do for whoever becomes our manager.

You mean some capacity other than Goalkeeper?

[swedish dave]

3 minutes ago, TheSoundman said:

You mean some capacity other than Goalkeeper?

(sadly) we put him out on loan because, he ** wasn't good enough to be our No.1 in the Championship

His move wasn't so successful, and so if he doesn't move this summer, we are back with ** the same problem.