Tonda Eckert

[die Mannyschaft]

2 hours ago, Dr Who? said:

They still in the meeting? The FA are a flipping joke. Pardon my French! Could decide this during a hydration break! 

FA Completely useless, peoples minds are already decided irrespective of what is reviewed or looked at from Tonda's point of view. Its a 15 min chat and announcement. 

[Oldandtired]

2 hours ago, Badger said:

I’ll bow to your knowledge of the regulations, but out of interest does it go so far as to the penalties or measures that might be imposed for particular breaches ? 

Wasn't precedent set with Bielsa?

[Dr Who?]

It’s a joke, it should be sorted out long before the start of the next season. This happened before the end of the season previous. I said at the time it would be just before or even after the season has started which is ridiculous and will send us into complete chaos in what is a hugely important season in which, if we do not go up it could impacted the club for years/decades. 

[St. Ciervo]

That alone will cause damages worthy of seeking compensation.

Edit: Sadly, we would have to prove that it was deliberate. Good luck on that. 

Edited July 4 by St. Ciervo

[West Dean FC Legend]

15 minutes ago, St. Ciervo said:

That alone will cause damages worthy of seeking compensation.

Edit: Sadly, we would have to prove that it was deliberate. Good luck on that. 

Just a different point - perhaps a lawyer would only have to prove it was incompotence by the FA that has seriously affected our build up for the new season. I mean the FA know the new season is approaching, they know teams appoint coaches and get players as early as they can for specific prices, plus clubs release players, to fit their plans, which included the coaching staff. If the FA due to diddling around and being slow and unable to check out the problem and come to a verdict in a reasonable time, so when they come up with some tremendous punishment it seriously affects this - that is unacceptable. 

Or maybe I'm being too 'professional' and 'logical'? 🤣

Edited July 4 by West Dean FC Legend

[St. Ciervo]

It would be worth the shot for sure. That screams a financial settlement, which would still be an unacceptable remedy. The question is, are they operating this slow always? I imagine that is a yes. 

[Challenger]

3 hours ago, Dr Who? said:

It’s a joke, it should be sorted out long before the start of the next season. This happened before the end of the season previous. I said at the time it would be just before or even after the season has started which is ridiculous and will send us into complete chaos in what is a hugely important season in which, if we do not go up it could impacted the club for years/decades. 

Indeed, however it was an all preventable, self-inflicted fuck up 

[Dr Who?]

15 hours ago, Challenger said:

Indeed, however it was an all preventable, self-inflicted fuck up 

We also had the opportunity to show him the door and reappoint for the start of the season I suppose. 

[OzzySaint]

We should have got trump to ring FA and  EFL to get us off - FIFA are bigger cheats than anyone else followed by the FA themselves!

[Matthew Le God]

1 hour ago, OzzySaint said:

We should have got trump to ring FA and  EFL to get us off - FIFA are bigger cheats than anyone else followed by the FA themselves!

What have the FA done to cheat?

[Convict Colony]

The FA are the most incompetent, work shy cunts in human history, they are worse than me.

How long does it take to make a ruling, if he's banned for 3 months it's fucked us as preason is back.

[Convict Colony]

18 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

What have the FA done to cheat?

Well VAR falls under their remit so you could say they can manipulate games via that given the consistent errors but watching the world cup it seems that everyone is shit at VAR sl maybe they get a pass.

[Saint86]

When do people think they'll actually be a decision on this? Surely it has to be this month, ideally before the world cup finishes?

[obelisk]

12 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

When do people think they'll actually be a decision on this? Surely it has to be this month, ideally before the world cup finishes?

Given the amount of cheating going on in the World Cup that actually does affect real matches you'd hope that the FA would toss the inconsequential alleged misdemeanours by Tonda into the bin. I suspect they'll go in hard on the small guy though 'cos that's what they like to do. 

[sockeye]

They're focusing on getting FIFA to suspend the inevitable yellow card for Bellingham.

[Charlie Wayman]

On 06/07/2026 at 03:12, Matthew Le God said:

What have the FA done to cheat?

Easy & Cheap response, you can do much better than this

[Matthew Le God]

1 hour ago, Charlie Wayman said:

Easy & Cheap response, you can do much better than this

They were accused of cheating, I asked what have they done to cheat. That is not an unreasonable question.

[Saint Fan CaM]

On 08/07/2026 at 15:41, Matthew Le God said:

They were accused of cheating, I asked what have they done to cheat. That is not an unreasonable question.

How about failing to address the many ‘misdemeanours’ of Man City FC? Given the number of clubs across the country adversely affected by their ‘misdemeanours’, you’d think they’d be duty bound to punish City swiftly and commensurately against the 100+ charges they face, but that wouldn’t suit their narrative would it? Tantamount to cheating at the very least.

[CSA96]

 

[Matthew Le God]

5 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

How about failing to address the many ‘misdemeanours’ of Man City FC? Given the number of clubs across the country adversely affected by their ‘misdemeanours’, you’d think they’d be duty bound to punish City swiftly and commensurately against the 100+ charges they face, but that wouldn’t suit their narrative would it? Tantamount to cheating at the very least.

You have confused governing bodies. The charges for Man City are by the Premier League, not the FA. The case is being heard by an independent commission appointed under Premier League rules, not by the FA.

Edited 13 hours ago by Matthew Le God

[Weston Super Saint]

1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said:

You have confused governing bodies. The charges for Man City are by the Premier League, not the FA. The case is being heard by an independent commission appointed under Premier League rules, not by the FA.

The charges made against Tonda were initially from the EFL, but the FA are still involved.  Maybe because, you know, they oversee ALL football in the UK?

[VectisSaint]

47 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

The charges made against Tonda were initially from the EFL, but the FA are still involved.  Maybe because, you know, they oversee ALL football in the UK?

The charges by the EFL were against the Club (same as PL have charged Man City). The FA deal with individuals.

[Weston Super Saint]

1 minute ago, VectisSaint said:

The charges by the EFL were against the Club (same as PL have charged Man City). The FA deal with individuals.

So the FA could charge all managers that have been in charge of Man City in conjunction with the PL charges  

However, I assume they can only do this once found 'guilty' which is unlikely to happen in our lifetime the way the PL is stringing it out!

[VectisSaint]

3 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

So the FA could charge all managers that have been in charge of Man City in conjunction with the PL charges  

However, I assume they can only do this once found 'guilty' which is unlikely to happen in our lifetime the way the PL is stringing it out!

I don't think that's how it works, but yes if a particular manager had brought the game into disrepute (LOL) or similar they could be charged. I don't know the Man City charges in detail but I've never heard of any of their managers being individually responsible for any of the alleged financial misdemeanours. As you alluded to though they would not bring any charges while the PL "investigations" continue, otherwise it could be seen to compromise the due process. As I've already said several times I am pretty sure that the FA are only really interested in the alleged "bullying", because it brings into disrepute their "inclusivity" goals. They may include other charges but thats the thing they "care" about, being seen to be a fully inclusive (woke) organisation. 

[Saint86]

It would be utterly bonkers if the FA banned a manager for the scouting team violating the rules on only 3 occasions to scout other teams inside an arbitrary time window - an almost inconsequential breach given saints didn't even win any of those matches, and given all league games and other training sessions are available to scout without it being an infraction.

The bullying stuff is also complete nonsense, not even the EFL's own report accuses Eckert directly of bullying (but they made sure the media did that, Adam included), and there is no evidence that either shows or states that Eckert bullied staff. Its a very insidious accusation leveled at him with no substantial evidence against him, and a stain that is almost impossible to ever fully remove - But what it did achieve is giving the EFL the narrative they needed to hammer the club and make appealing the sanction very difficult. 

Edited 8 hours ago by Saint86

[LiberalCommunist]

12 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

It would be utterly bonkers if the FA banned a manager for the scouting team violating the rules on only 3 occasions to scout other teams inside an arbitrary time window - an almost inconsequential breach given saints didn't even win any of those matches, and given all league games and other training sessions are available to scout without it being an infraction.

The bullying stuff is also complete nonsense, not even the EFL's own report accuses Eckert directly of bullying (but they made sure the media did that, Adam included), and there is no evidence that either shows or states that Eckert bullied staff. Its a very insidious accusation leveled at him with no substantial evidence against him, and a stain that is almost impossible to ever fully remove - But what it did achieve is giving the EFL the narrative they needed to hammer the club and make appealing the sanction very difficult. 

Imagine being chucked out of a competition for this infringement. It still seems utterly ridiculous. An over reaction so great, that the football world will not know what to do the next time a serious breach of regulations comes to light. The lines are now so blurred, you'd need VAR and five working days to understand if it touched the line. 

Thankfully, for my sanity, we won another season in the best league in the world. So I won't dwell on it. 

[rallyboy]

He's just served a two month touchline ban.

Next case...

[Charlie Wayman]

I just wish they would get their FA fingers out and decide on the penalty. There's bound to be some sanction against Eckert so why the delay?

Informed opinion suggests - based on percedent - he will get a touchline ban for six months leaving him free to coach during the week but uninvolved on match days. Probably that is manageable without a huge impact on performance.

Of course if they are reallly vindictive they could ban him from football altogether. The longer this goes on the more one suspects they are working out what form of sanction will hit Eckert hardest.

 

[Fabrice29]

53 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said:

I just wish they would get their FA fingers out and decide on the penalty. There's bound to be some sanction against Eckert so why the delay?

Informed opinion suggests - based on percedent - he will get a touchline ban for six months leaving him free to coach during the week but uninvolved on match days. Probably that is manageable without a huge impact on performance.

Of course if they are reallly vindictive they could ban him from football altogether. The longer this goes on the more one suspects they are working out what form of sanction will hit Eckert hardest.

 

Where’s the informed opinion and precedent for that out of interest ?

[RedArmy]

Where would be the logic in a manager that cheated away from the pitch and touchline being banned from there but still being allowed to work in the environment that he cheated in? 
 

It would be like banning a speeding motorist from getting the train but still being allowed to drive. 

[beatlesaint]

7 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

Where would be the logic in a manager that cheated away from the pitch and touchline being banned from there but still being allowed to work in the environment that he cheated in? 
 

It would be like banning a speeding motorist from getting the train but still being allowed to drive. 

Whilst I agree I think trying to apply any logic when it comes to the FA is a dangerous route to take.

 

[Matthew Le God]

3 hours ago, Charlie Wayman said:

I just wish they would get their FA fingers out and decide on the penalty. There's bound to be some sanction against Eckert so why the delay?

Informed opinion suggests - based on percedent - he will get a touchline ban for six months leaving him free to coach during the week but uninvolved on match days. Probably that is manageable without a huge impact on performance.

Of course if they are reallly vindictive they could ban him from football altogether. The longer this goes on the more one suspects they are working out what form of sanction will hit Eckert hardest.

 

What precedent set by the FA is there for that?

Edited 1 hour ago by Matthew Le God