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I am loathe to accuse the FA of mischief-making in their decision to deal with Tonda during the international break. However, it has to be said that they have chosen a time when the case will again receive massive media scrutiny because, with little or no league football, there will be nothing for the journos and pundits to get their teeth into. Hence, Spygate will be front and centre in newspapers, MSM, Sky Sports and any other outlets reporting on football. I don't believe in coincidences myself 🙂

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28 minutes ago, saintant said:

I am loathe to accuse the FA of mischief-making in their decision to deal with Tonda during the international break. However, it has to be said that they have chosen a time when the case will again receive massive media scrutiny because, with little or no league football, there will be nothing for the journos and pundits to get their teeth into. Hence, Spygate will be front and centre in newspapers, MSM, Sky Sports and any other outlets reporting on football. I don't believe in coincidences myself 🙂

It's not some great conspiracy. The FA disciplinary process moves slowly for everyone. We're not a special case. 

You can go through their August judgements here https://www.thefa.com/news/2026/sep/10/fa-charges---august-2026-100926 and see that 4-5 months from incident to resolution is pretty common. 

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13 minutes ago, qwertyell said:

It's not some great conspiracy. The FA disciplinary process moves slowly for everyone. We're not a special case. 

You can go through their August judgements here https://www.thefa.com/news/2026/sep/10/fa-charges---august-2026-100926 and see that 4-5 months from incident to resolution is pretty common. 

An interesting read. It'll be valuable to learn whether a volley of racist insulting language, for instance, results in a greater or lesser penalty than an employee standing in a public area watching a training session.

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10 minutes ago, obelisk said:

An interesting read. It'll be valuable to learn whether a volley of racist insulting language, for instance, results in a greater or lesser penalty than an employee standing in a public area watching a training session.

Premeditaed. On three seperate occasions. That'll be the kicker - it wasn't a one off rule break. 

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6 minutes ago, qwertyell said:

Premeditaed. On three seperate occasions. That'll be the kicker - it wasn't a one off rule break. 

Blimey, has Tonda killed someone? This is starting to look really serious.

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1 hour ago, saintant said:

I am loathe to accuse the FA of mischief-making in their decision to deal with Tonda during the international break. However, it has to be said that they have chosen a time when the case will again receive massive media scrutiny because, with little or no league football, there will be nothing for the journos and pundits to get their teeth into. Hence, Spygate will be front and centre in newspapers, MSM, Sky Sports and any other outlets reporting on football. I don't believe in coincidences myself 🙂

I agree. So they can really push their ridiculous punishment. They are out to destroy a great young managers career. Barstards

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19 minutes ago, Thereisonlyonemickychannon said:

I agree. So they can really push their ridiculous punishment. They are out to destroy a great young managers career. Barstards

With only international football the press will be whipped into a feeding frenzy by the FA decision when it eventually comes. It's going to fill the void left by the absence of league football and there is sure to be some radical reporting much of which will be completely ott.

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16 minutes ago, saintant said:

With only international football the press will be whipped into a feeding frenzy by the FA decision when it eventually comes. It's going to fill the void left by the absence of league football and there is sure to be some radical reporting much of which will be completely ott.

I want to know what James Corden thinks

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Carlos Coberian been sacked by Valencia so would be available should the worst get given to Tonda. Wasn’t he someone on SRs radar a while back?

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4 hours ago, saintant said:

I am loathe to accuse the FA of mischief-making in their decision to deal with Tonda during the international break. However, it has to be said that they have chosen a time when the case will again receive massive media scrutiny because, with little or no league football, there will be nothing for the journos and pundits to get their teeth into. Hence, Spygate will be front and centre in newspapers, MSM, Sky Sports and any other outlets reporting on football. I don't believe in coincidences myself 🙂

I also think that the FA need to sharpen up their act together as this whole thing has dragged on far too long.

I was expecting the judgment on Man City's 115 cases to be resolved before this one. An eventual punishment

will be the third verdict for the same " crime ", and I recall murder cases that have been resolved in quicker time.

 

However what really amazes me is that aside from Boro's " crocodile tears"  over the whole episode, there hasn't 

been a long list of League managers also condemning TE for " bringing the game into disrepute ", and claiming 

that they would never do anything that dastardly and TE should be properly punished. The truth maybe closer

to them admitting that Tonda's real crime was "getting caught".  This delay is tantamount to a man on sitting 

Death Row and made to wait so long, whilst desperately hoping for some sort of reprieve. 

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3 hours ago, Thereisonlyonemickychannon said:

I agree. So they can really push their ridiculous punishment. They are out to destroy a great young managers career. Barstards

It won't destroy his career at all.  He may not be able to operate in this country but there will be no end of takers in other countries.  Once you get past the faux outage stoked by both social and the mainstream media, the 'crime' was nowhere near as bad as was made out.  The fools at the FA can ban him all they like, but the bottom line is TE is a very good coach and will very easily find another good job outside of the FAs jurisdiction.  Our loss would be everyone else's gain.  

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4 hours ago, qwertyell said:

Premeditaed. On three seperate occasions. That'll be the kicker - it wasn't a one off rule break. 

Im not sure it was premeditated, how do you know Will Salt wasn't just out for a walk and stumbled across a group of guys have a kickabout and decided to capture the moment on his mobile telephone?

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21 minutes ago, Football Special said:

Im not sure it was premeditated, how do you know Will Salt wasn't just out for a walk and stumbled across a group of guys have a kickabout and decided to capture the moment on his mobile telephone?

Do you often go out for a spur of the moment walk in Middlesborough?

No I thought not - because its a shit hole - terrible place to go for a relaxing walk

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1 hour ago, Turkish said:

Carlos Coberian been sacked by Valencia so would be available should the worst get given to Tonda. Wasn’t he someone on SRs radar a while back?

We could do a lot worse than him, he's got a bit about him. 

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1 hour ago, Turkish said:

Carlos Coberian been sacked by Valencia so would be available should the worst get given to Tonda. Wasn’t he someone on SRs radar a while back?

If Eckert must sit it out for a few weeks don't you think Adam Lallana is the more likely stand -in? He and Garner should be able to keep things together.

 

3 hours ago, saintant said:

With only international football the press will be whipped into a feeding frenzy by the FA decision when it eventually comes. It's going to fill the void left by the absence of league football and there is sure to be some radical reporting much of which will be completely ott.

Probably an exaggeration, little old yokely Southampton barely get a mention in the press even when defeating the current league leaders not once but twice. 

 

3 hours ago, Thereisonlyonemickychannon said:

I agree. So they can really push their ridiculous punishment. They are out to destroy a great young managers career. Barstards

Do you really believe that? Best to wait and see what they say before becoming apoplectic.

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I think there is only one reason this has dragged on as long as it has - we have appealed. 

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27 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said:

If Eckert must sit it out for a few weeks don't you think Adam Lallana is the more likely stand -in? He and Garner should be able to keep things together.

 

Probably an exaggeration, little old yokely Southampton barely get a mention in the press even when defeating the current league leaders not once but twice. 

 

Do you really believe that? Best to wait and see what they say before becoming apoplectic.

We'll see. My prediction is that it will be a feeding frenzy.

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20 minutes ago, LeG said:

I think there is only one reason this has dragged on as long as it has - we have appealed. 

Appealed against what? We are waiting for the verdict.

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34 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said:

Probably an exaggeration, little old yokely Southampton barely get a mention in the press even when defeating the current league leaders not once but twice. 

I don’t think anyone except Saints fans gives a flying fuck that we beat gigantic Millwall and Swansea in late August/early September. 

What media coverage were you expecting for that?

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7 minutes ago, saintant said:

Appealed against what? We are waiting for the verdict.

I suppose it's possible that there's been a punishment with a stay of execution pending appeal. Feels unlikely, but it seems that anything is possible in football.

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47 minutes ago, LeG said:

I think there is only one reason this has dragged on as long as it has - we have appealed. 

Insider info @LeG, or just a hunch...?

(If you're not at liberty to say, just blink once for the former or twice for the latter and your secret will be safe with me :) )

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2 hours ago, Turkish said:

Carlos Coberian been sacked by Valencia so would be available should the worst get given to Tonda. Wasn’t he someone on SRs radar a while back?

Do we know why they sacked him...?

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4 hours ago, It's There said:

I suspect Saints PR machine is ready and primed to go, whatever the outcome. They won't be slow off the mark this time!

Hmm... I admire your confidence.... ;)

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