Mr X Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Same as the swansea game hopefully. http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=47421484101&ref=ts This will be more effective than marching away from the ground imo. Who's up for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Are you the Protest Stage Two Popular Peoples Front? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 11 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Are you the Protest Stage Two Popular Peoples Front? no i'm the popular peoples front for stage two protest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 11 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 11 February, 2009 I hope I don't need to mention that i'm not the organizer just a follower "If somethings hard work then its not worth doing!" Homer J Simpson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Well, I'm glad you lot aren't running the club. This whole thing is a mess! (can't work out the similies, but a winky thing would go here.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 11 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Well, I'm glad you lot aren't running the club. This whole thing is a mess! (can't work out the similies, but a winky thing would go here.) What whole things a mess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 What whole things a mess? The whole organisation thing. At least, from what I can tell. I must admit I have no interest in going on any of them anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 What's going to happen when the two groups meet? (marching too the ground and marching from). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 11 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 11 February, 2009 The whole organisation thing. At least, from what I can tell. I must admit I have no interest in going on any of them anyway. I'm not the organizer of any of the protests just passing info on. Thought it was quite a sucess overall last time, a good turn out considering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 11 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 11 February, 2009 What's going to happen when the two groups meet? (marching too the ground and marching from). a fight to the death? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 What's going to happen when the two groups meet? (marching too the ground and marching from). Chaos and a fight to determine who is the bestest protesters and who came up with the bestest idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 OMFG this is getting pathetic. Pontyous... lock the march out threads. It seems our teenage warriors are convinced that holding hands and walking to the ground nice and early to put a few extra quid in Lowes pocket is the way ahead. I am not sure what is more tedious.... our fans or our football club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Same as the swansea game hopefully. http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=47421484101&ref=ts This will be more effective than marching away from the ground imo. Who's up for it? How will this be more effective than a walkout/boycott/pitch invasion ? What do you expect to happen as a result of this march? Serious question, if you are so convinced... what is it that walking to the ground early together will achieve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Well, I'm glad you lot aren't running the club. This whole thing is a mess! (can't work out the similies, but a winky thing would go here.) I'm no linguist, but I didn't think there were any :smt102 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Serious question, if you are so convinced... what is it that walking to the ground early together will achieve? They will save on beer in the pub. There's a credit crunch on, don'tcha know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 They will save on beer in the pub. There's a credit crunch on, don'tcha know. But it won't, because you will be in the concourse paying £3 a pint anyway, with nowhere to sit, no heating and no free Chilli..... Apart from getting to spend an hour in the concourse before the game when I would normally be in a pub, I really can't see the point myself. The whole footballing world know that we still hate Lowe! He must laugh at our fickle fanbase.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 How will this be more effective than a walkout/boycott/pitch invasion ? What do you expect to happen as a result of this march? Serious question, if you are so convinced... what is it that walking to the ground early together will achieve? There is no reason why the two things should conflict. The march to the ground can take place as it did before. The march from the ground, or as I suggested, the demonstration outside the stadium during the entire course of the match can continue on from the arrival of those marching there from the Bargate. I agree wholeheartedly with Stu though, that although there are some benefits in the march as per the pre-Swansea one, Lowe and the board comprise some thick skinned and obstinate sods who won't bat an eyelid at the majority of the fan base not liking them. To have any effect on the issue at all, you need to put a gun against their heads metaphorically and play Russian roulette with them. We could hold a march to the stadium every home game for the next decade and that won't shift them. But a mass boycott would be that gun. Even if they resisted one boycott, they would either have to resign on the second or third, or the Bank might well have pulled the plug on them and given an ultimatum that unless they left the board and made way for others to run the PLC, they will withdraw their support and call in the loan. So by all means let's have the march to the stadium. But once there, let's stop pussy-footing around and get serious and play hardball with the incompetent fools who are killing the club. Take it from me that Lowe and the Quisling would just love us to be squabbling amongst ourselves. Let's unite and save our club before there is nothing left to save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 I'm no linguist, but I didn't think there were any :smt102 Gah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 OMFG this is getting pathetic. Pontyous... lock the march out threads. It seems our teenage warriors are convinced that holding hands and walking to the ground nice and early to put a few extra quid in Lowes pocket is the way ahead. I am not sure what is more tedious.... our fans or our football club. The previous march was well attended. Your idea won't be well attended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 The previous march was well attended. Your idea won't be well attended. In numbers, you are probably right. Effectiveness, wrong. I am still waiting for someone to give me ONE example of how marching to the ground will help rid SFC or Lowe and Wilde? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 In numbers, you are probably right. Effectiveness, wrong. I am still waiting for someone to give me ONE example of how marching to the ground will help rid SFC or Lowe and Wilde? I agree Stu. Fair play for having a go. Boycott's are the only way to get anything changed. Lowe and his cabal only understand money. Askham would never have got rid of Branfoot, back in the day, if it not for greatly reduced attendances. Same situation here. He will continue to support Lowe until revenue dries up even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 boycotts are what got rid of branfoot...or helped at the very least.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBadger Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Are you the Protest Stage Two Popular Peoples Front? F**K off - we're the People Front of Stage Two Protest, splitters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 personally..i think a series of boycotts would be better with an aim of getting the crowd under 10k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Recieved this from the 'organiser' of the March.... After reading the recent posts on saints web forums, it had started to really annoy me. sorry stu but your there saying all this crap about me ben and tom? what have we done? saying we just want to get our mugs on tv? get it right! were trying to save our club from not even being around! and you want to start saying all that? i am fully supportive of the march away and it will have an impact, but i for one, will not be attending anymore due to recent coments made by you. at first you slated what we were doing and said it was a waste of time.... you say that to the 1000+ fans that were there and also to the ones who will support the march on the 21st. good luck to you with your march. on behalf of " demonstration against the running of sfc" Oh dear, I did actually respect what these kids were trying to do, until I read the last bit " on behalf of " lol How did the come to this assumption that his views were also those of all the people in their 'group'? Someone give this kid a job for the Saints Trust. lol I don't know where the 1000+ come from though, seriously. 500 would have been a very high estimate. I think there will be even less this time. Anyway, like I said, just to shut me up, someone give me ONE example of how this will be effective in getting rid of Lowe and Wilde. Make sure it's something that hasn't be tried before or people don't know already. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 11 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 11 February, 2009 OMFG this is getting pathetic. Pontyous... lock the march out threads. It seems our teenage warriors are convinced that holding hands and walking to the ground nice and early to put a few extra quid in Lowes pocket is the way ahead. I am not sure what is more tedious.... our fans or our football club. WTF! what a childish comment. I don't think your in a position to have a superiority complex, it's is up to the individual to decide what action they wish to take.What right have you got to tell them what they should be doing? its a matter of subjectivity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 WTF! what a childish comment. I don't think your in a position to have a superiority complex, it's is up to the individual to decide what action they wish to take.What right have you got to tell them what they should be doing? its a matter of subjectivity You felt the need to open a thread and express your opinion, and I am having mine. So what is childish? Dear oh dear. You said the march will be more effective. Give me an example, just ONE example on how it will be effective in ridding SFC of Lowe. Go on, ONE, surely not that hard is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Two people, both protesting about the SFC board, doing exactly what they're always complaining at the boards, past and present, for doing. Namely, sniping at each other and criticising each other's methods rather than concentrating on getting the job done. FFS lads, there's room for two protests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 I don't know where the 1000+ come from though, seriously. 500 would have been a very high estimate. I think there will be even less this time. Anyway, like I said, just to shut me up, someone give me ONE example of how this will be effective in getting rid of Lowe and Wilde. Make sure it's something that hasn't be tried before or people don't know already. :-) On the first point, when I took part in that march, there were at least 1000 people on that march and I'd have put it closer to 2000. If what you said was true before that march, you weren't there, so cannot realistically comment with conviction. If you don't believe me and have some spare time, count the people going past the camera outside the King Alfred pub on YouTube. On the second point, you're right. But no harm done by holding the march to the stadium, especially if it then combines with an onward going protest at the stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 You felt the need to open a thread and express your opinion, and I am having mine. So what is childish? Dear oh dear. You said the march will be more effective. Give me an example, just ONE example on how it will be effective in ridding SFC of Lowe. Go on, ONE, surely not that hard is it? i tend to agree mate..im nearly 29 and I remember the branfoot affair...that was pretty hardcore and there were plenty of boycotts and pretty harsh and in your face protests...some in the ground on live telly too (newcastle at the dell)...it took a while of that and he went... trouble is, lowe has elephant skin and will probably see the protest as a good thing...people are organising something that will bring EXTRA people to the ground early and no doubt spend a few quid too... fair play to those who protest..but to get rid of lowe it has to be done right and in a language that he knows, which is MONEY...no money in the club will mean no lowe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Totally agree with those who have posted to say a boycott is the best way, allied to marches. Askham only got rid of Branfoot as he hit him in the pocket which is the only thing he understands. Some of the football 1992-4 was shocking and God knows where we'd be now if it wasn't for MLT. Yet Askham, Wiseman and all the other old fools stuck with him and even gave him a 3 year contract. These people still have a large say in how SFC runs and if you want to get to the heart of why we are in such a hole, you have your answer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 i tend to agree mate..im nearly 29 and I remember the branfoot affair...that was pretty hardcore and there were plenty of boycotts and pretty harsh and in your face protests...some in the ground on live telly too (newcastle at the dell)...it took a while of that and he went... trouble is, lowe has elephant skin and will probably see the protest as a good thing...people are organising something that will bring EXTRA people to the ground early and no doubt spend a few quid too... fair play to those who protest..but to get rid of lowe it has to be done right and in a language that he knows, which is MONEY...no money in the club will mean no lowe Good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 On the first point, when I took part in that march, there were at least 1000 people on that march and I'd have put it closer to 2000. If what you said was true before that march, you weren't there, so cannot realistically comment with conviction. If you don't believe me and have some spare time, count the people going past the camera outside the King Alfred pub on YouTube. On the second point, you're right. But no harm done by holding the march to the stadium, especially if it then combines with an onward going protest at the stadium. No harm done at all, everyone has their right to do whatever they want, but people need to realise that it won't achieve it's goal, which I am led to believe is Lowe and Wilde leaving. Lowe in all honesty will see the protest as a good thing due to the extra revenue in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Recieved this from the 'organiser' of the March.... After reading the recent posts on saints web forums, it had started to really annoy me. sorry stu but your there saying all this crap about me ben and tom? what have we done? saying we just want to get our mugs on tv? get it right! were trying to save our club from not even being around! and you want to start saying all that? i am fully supportive of the march away and it will have an impact, but i for one, will not be attending anymore due to recent coments made by you. at first you slated what we were doing and said it was a waste of time.... you say that to the 1000+ fans that were there and also to the ones who will support the march on the 21st. good luck to you with your march. on behalf of " demonstration against the running of sfc" Oh dear, I did actually respect what these kids were trying to do, until I read the last bit " on behalf of " lol How did the come to this assumption that his views were also those of all the people in their 'group'? Someone give this kid a job for the Saints Trust. lol I don't know where the 1000+ come from though, seriously. 500 would have been a very high estimate. I think there will be even less this time. Anyway, like I said, just to shut me up, someone give me ONE example of how this will be effective in getting rid of Lowe and Wilde. Make sure it's something that hasn't be tried before or people don't know already. :-) I have sympathy with you Stu but there was certainly over 1000 on the march. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 I have sympathy with you Stu but there was certainly over 1000 on the march. Fair enough if that is the case. Point I am making is what are peoples motives for marching? Do they believe that Lowe will leave as a result of it? Are they doing it because they 'might as well' as they go to the game at the point? Do they just want to have their say? So far, I have asked and asked people for just ONE example of how this will be effective in ridding Saints of Lowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 The previous march was well attended. Your idea won't be well attended. In numbers, you are probably right. Effectiveness, wrong. I am still waiting for someone to give me ONE example of how marching to the ground will help rid SFC or Lowe and Wilde? I'm not having a go at what you are doing, in fact you're doing what needs to be done and i hope you don't lose heart. I just wish you'd not criticise the other protests because we're all on the same side and they can all work alongside each other. We all have a common bond in wanting what's best for Saints and that means Lowe out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 I'm not having a go at what you are doing, in fact you're doing what needs to be done and i hope you don't lose heart. I just wish you'd not criticise the other protests because we're all on the same side and they can all work alongside each other. We all have a common bond in wanting what's best for Saints and that means Lowe out. Not knocking anyone for going on it, good luck to them and I hope they take heart from it!!! I am simply having my opinion on how ineffective it will be. In the same way that people who disagree with boycotts etc do. Someone could quite easily shut me up and give me some examples of how it will be effective in removing Lowe and Wilde from office. Just one would probably be enough to shut me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right sider Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Stu I for one will be doing both marches. For 2 reasons I am doing the first. a) We can influence people and make the second a bigger event b) The media got behind the first one and it builds up the momentum for your boycott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Same old same........infighting amongst fans. Truth is, the last protest done a lot of goos Stu, and so will this one, if only you can open your eyes and see why. That said, it beggers belief, that instead of one protest, we have others jumping on the band wagon with their crys of 'follow me chaps'. How about forming a committe, then pull together, instead of opposite directions...............................The board will be loving this!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Not knocking anyone for going on it, good luck to them and I hope they take heart from it!!! I am simply having my opinion on how ineffective it will be. In the same way that people who disagree with boycotts etc do. Someone could quite easily shut me up and give me some examples of how it will be effective in removing Lowe and Wilde from office. Just one would probably be enough to shut me up. You're right in what you say. I'm boycotting and not putting money into the club because of Lowe because this is the only protest he understands, but the protests that envolve people going to games are necessary because they help to create unity and help the Lowe Out cause. For that reason they have a purpose because they keep the issue on the agenda. Protests like yours can then stem from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chi saint Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 If you really want to make an impression and effect change there is only one of two ways. Option 1 :-When or if it becomes mathematically impossible for us to stay up then implement a boycott. Be it one or more games. The number of games would be unimportant of course in terms of league status as by that time it would sadly be academic but would as with option 2 below send a clear message that the majority consensus is for change, and such action couldn’t spun in terms of a vocal minority. Option 2 :-Alternatively if we are not relegated, don't renew season tickets, it would be a classic case of brinkmanship. With a month or a week to go to the start of the new season and the number of season ticket renewals say around the 2 thousand mark (there are always going to be some who go against the majority) the gaping hole in projected funding would have a salutary effect on any board. Now here's the important and crucial bit, the board would know there would be a surge of renewals if there was change and for once the power would be squarely in the grasp of the fans. All the protests, marches, even pitch invasions will have minimal effect. The only way is the threat of non-attendance and the resulting, perceived or actual, dive in funding and effective fan power! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 (edited) Same old same........infighting amongst fans. Truth is, the last protest done a lot of goos Stu, and so will this one, if only you can open your eyes and see why. That said, it beggers belief, that instead of one protest, we have others jumping on the band wagon with their crys of 'follow me chaps'. How about forming a committe, then pull together, instead of opposite directions...............................The board will be loving this!!! Exactly, the board would be loving it. The reasons for me not being arsed to organise the boycott is simple, silly sniping from alot of the younger fans who understanably, cannot see how effective a boycott can be, probably from not being around in the Branfoot days. I had to give the manager of Yates numbers of how many extra staff he wanted by the end of play today, not only that but I had to pay for them extra staff out of my own pocket, with me only getting the money back if the numbers turned up. Saints fans will always fight between each other, no different to other fans from other teams, commitees and organistations don't exist and rarely do well, for every member of TSA, SISA, Saints Trust etc etc who supported their aims, there were ten times as many who didn't agree. Spontaneous protests are the most effective. Now for my own bit in glory.... it was against Ipswich that the front rows were being sat down by the stewards, the chants of "Stand Up if you love the Saints" ringed out, I tweaked it and started singing " Stand up if you want Lowe out " , soon a few others were joining in, then a few more, then after about 5 minutes, the whole stadium was on their feet. There is no point in any organisation. I see the organiser of the march is now signing off his posts etc as " on behalf of Demonstration against the running of SFC " There is no ' on behalf of ' , everyone has different opinions, in the words of Jimmy Greaves, footballs a funny old game. The one 'good' thing about the marches to the ground is that they unify fans, or at least the ones on it... if that is the aim then fair enough, but I get the feeling that the aim is to get rid of Lowe and Wilde ( that's my aim ) and marching to the ground is pointless if that is your aim. The marches to the ground should be used to gather people together and come up with new ways of putting the pressure on. Edited 11 February, 2009 by StuRomseySaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 I morally support both protests, but agree that a 'march away/boycott' protest would have a greater impact than a 'march to/attend' protest. (if both were of the same scale and thus comparable on a like-for-like basis) FWIW, I think it was a shame that the thread starter felt it necessary to include an opinion on what protest was best as it set the scene for the tone of the thread thereafter. A simple declaration that both protests are complimentary would have been less contentious opening post IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 The one 'good' thing about the marches to the ground is that they unify fans, or at least the ones on it... if that is the aim then fair enough, but I get the feeling that the aim is to get rid of Lowe and Wilde ( that's my aim ) and marching to the ground is pointless if that is your aim. The marches to the ground should be used to gather people together and come up with new ways of putting the pressure on. In a nutshell. That's why the popularist "happy clappy" marches are a good thing. Ideas like yours need the popularist marches and demos which is why you should be backing them 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Fair enough if that is the case. Point I am making is what are peoples motives for marching? Do they believe that Lowe will leave as a result of it? Are they doing it because they 'might as well' as they go to the game at the point? Do they just want to have their say? So far, I have asked and asked people for just ONE example of how this will be effective in ridding Saints of Lowe. From little acorns big oaks grow. Know what you are saying Stu (and there WAS over a 1000 there) but the message the march sent to me was, while there is a will there is a way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 11 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 11 February, 2009 You felt the need to open a thread and express your opinion, and I am having mine. So what is childish? Dear oh dear. You said the march will be more effective. Give me an example, just ONE example on how it will be effective in ridding SFC of Lowe. Go on, ONE, surely not that hard is it? You resorted to taking the **** out of people with a different opinion, thats why surely your intelligent enough to realise that?, that aside i never once claimed it would remove the board if were honest Both marches will be ineffective in removing Lowe and wilde but they may increase pressure on wether Barclays continue funding of the whole mess. And there will be media coverage more so on the original march imo. Anyway lets put our differences aside and unite on the real thing that matters saving our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomobz Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Exactly, the board would be loving it. The reasons for me not being arsed to organise the boycott is simple, silly sniping from alot of the younger fans who understanably, cannot see how effective a boycott can be, probably from not being around in the Branfoot days. I had to give the manager of Yates numbers of how many extra staff he wanted by the end of play today, not only that but I had to pay for them extra staff out of my own pocket, with me only getting the money back if the numbers turned up. Saints fans will always fight between each other, no different to other fans from other teams, commitees and organistations don't exist and rarely do well, for every member of TSA, SISA, Saints Trust etc etc who supported their aims, there were ten times as many who didn't agree. Spontaneous protests are the most effective. Now for my own bit in glory.... it was against Ipswich that the front rows were being sat down by the stewards, the chants of "Stand Up if you love the Saints" ringed out, I tweaked it and started singing " Stand up if you want Lowe out " , soon a few others were joining in, then a few more, then after about 5 minutes, the whole stadium was on their feet. There is no point in any organisation. I see the organiser of the march is now signing off his posts etc as " on behalf of Demonstration against the running of SFC " There is no ' on behalf of ' , everyone has different opinions, in the words of Jimmy Greaves, footballs a funny old game. The one 'good' thing about the marches to the ground is that they unify fans, or at least the ones on it... if that is the aim then fair enough, but I get the feeling that the aim is to get rid of Lowe and Wilde ( that's my aim ) and marching to the ground is pointless if that is your aim. The marches to the ground should be used to gather people together and come up with new ways of putting the pressure on. Stu I want to set the record straight as swiftly as I can as a PM I had written to you ended up as an essay so I deleted it. Firstly I want to state on record that I have had no part in organising nor do I plan to help organise any protests since the initial one and when people are banding my name around it they shouldn't be! This has irritated me that people are still including me as an organiser when I am not!! I dont want to organise any more protests due to the simple fact that I have no free time at all and most likely wont have for the forseable future. Secondly I find the whole thing between the two protests a complete embaressment to the fans. Both parties involved in the bickering need to grow up and somehow unite the two sets of supporters so that any demonstration is a united one as that is the whole point of a protest; the entire fanbase uniting to show they're distaste of the current management. Lastly I am very surprised that you have quit after a couple of peoples attempt to sabotage your protest. Surely you are more thick skinned than that, if you believe it is the right way to go then just do it! (I am sure you will be more greatly supported than you realise). Good luck to everyone involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 i hope your protest gos well but i think the best idea is to get wilde to sell his shares or pressure him to work with crouch to get rid of rupert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 .... pressure him to work with crouch to get rid of rupert Now there's an idea....oops, wait a minute.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Soze Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Here's my idea: -Get p1ssed, watching Saints sober is intolerable IMO -We need points and fast so watch the team and get behind the lads -If things go from bad to worse and beyond the point of no return, cause mayhem, absolute mayhem, enough to cause national exposure -Get p1ssed and drown your sorrows simple and easy and a win-win situation, we either get the points(s) or we cause enough disruption to make Lowe, Wilde et al positions untenable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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