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"The only thing we should be doing at the moment is getting behind Mark Wotte and the players and giving them full support and trying to create an atmosphere in the stadium where everyone is behind the team"

 

Leon Crouch.

 

Interesting that he names Wotte and says "only thing".

 

He goes on to say there will be an inquest at the end of the season - not now.

 

He goes up in my estimation.

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Yeah right, i'll never get behind the arrogant Dutch w4nker.

 

 

 

that's up to you, its a shame you can't support your manager

 

If he is a good manager he will be supported by nearly all saints fans.

 

Why don't you judge on football rather than prejudging him?

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You're a bit slow, he was saying the same stuff almost a month ago:

 

“Now we have to get behind the new manager, we have to give him a chance."

“I want the club to survive and prosper."

“I also agree with Matt Le Tissier when he said the fans have got to unite behind the new manager."

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You're a bit slow, he was saying the same stuff almost a month ago:

 

“Now we have to get behind the new manager, we have to give him a chance."

“I want the club to survive and prosper."

“I also agree with Matt Le Tissier when he said the fans have got to unite behind the new manager."

 

you are starting to sound a bit obsessed!

 

Sorry only read todays echo when I posted this - should have come home earlier, sorry;)

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that's up to you, its a shame you can't support your manager

 

If he is a good manager he will be supported by nearly all saints fans.

 

Why don't you judge on football rather than prejudging him?

 

He's a complete **** end of story.

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He's our manager, thats the important thing - you can't support saints without hoping he does well

 

I think you're wrong in your assertion that you can't support Saints without hoping he does well, as there are quite obviously a number of validly held thoughts as to why that may not be the case.

 

If it is genuniely believed that if Wotte failed it might result in the removal of Lowe and Wilde, which in turn could lead to a brighter future for the Club, then that is perfectly valid and rational position for someone who supports Saints to adopt. It is not a position I would support, but I fully respect Saints supporters to hold and espouse that point of view

 

I have to say your position of ignoring these and immediately dismissing them out of hand, and even suggesting you cannot support Saints if this is how you feel, is somewhat beliggerent, arrogant and narrow minded.

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I have marched and shouted the abuse along with others. I have called for a vast step up in tactics.

I have also stood(sat) shouting the team on and singing with the Northam. Wotte has to earn our chants for him and he has started to help himself by making changes.

Changes to the team and to the style of play. He also seems to be toughening up our team so I am hopeful that he can get us up the table to relative safety. If he does then he will deserve to have his name chanted along with our Saints songs.

If he fails it won't all be down to him as we all know. Give him a chance because we need him to succeed.

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Like we needed another thread on this on top of this mornings one Nick :-)

 

As I've said before, Wotte is here, while he is here we HAVE to get behind the team and give 100% and stay in this league.

 

The mess can get sorted out at the end of the year. At least there is now sense being spoken, not just rhetoric. If one of Lowe's biggest detractors says that is what we have to do, if it is also what our legends say we have to do, then fair enough

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I think you're wrong in your assertion that you can't support Saints without hoping he does well, as there are quite obviously a number of validly held thoughts as to why that may not be the case.

 

If it is genuniely believed that if Wotte failed it might result in the removal of Lowe and Wilde, which in turn could lead to a brighter future for the Club, then that is perfectly valid and rational position for someone who supports Saints to adopt. It is not a position I would support, but I fully respect Saints supporters to hold and espouse that point of view

 

I have to say your position of ignoring these and immediately dismissing them out of hand, and even suggesting you cannot support Saints if this is how you feel, is somewhat beliggerent, arrogant and narrow minded.

 

I do dismiss Stanley's views when they are so prejudiced, if thats arrogant so be it, I see it as having read them, considered them then rejected them.

 

Of course if we knew a brighter future was there if Wotte lost a game then you could support saints and considering wishing for a defeat (although I can't ever imagine wanting saints to fail).

 

But the logic of wanting wotte to fail as it might bring about Lowe/Wilde leaving which might bring about a brighter future is tenous to the extreme.

 

There is no-one, including Crouch looking to get rid of Wotte at the moment. Therefore if you support saints, you want them to do well e.g. avoid relegation, to do that Wotte has to do well, therefore if you support saints you want him to do well.

 

So, you think someone who supports their team, hopes a new manager will do well and will judge him on performances is narrow minded - and someone who wants him to fail purely because of who appointed him -even though it means his team suffering has a valid and rational view?

 

I won't worry too much about your continual character assessments now!;)

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"The only thing we should be doing at the moment is getting behind Mark Wotte and the players and giving them full support and trying to create an atmosphere in the stadium where everyone is behind the team"

 

Leon Crouch.

 

Interesting that he names Wotte and says "only thing".

 

He goes on to say there will be an inquest at the end of the season - not now.

 

He goes up in my estimation.

 

Likewise

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I do dismiss Stanley's views when they are so prejudiced, if thats arrogant so be it, I see it as having read them, considered them then rejected them.

 

Of course if we knew a brighter future was there if Wotte lost a game then you could support saints and considering wishing for a defeat (although I can't ever imagine wanting saints to fail).

 

But the logic of wanting wotte to fail as it might bring about Lowe/Wilde leaving which might bring about a brighter future is tenous to the extreme.

 

There is no-one, including Crouch looking to get rid of Wotte at the moment. Therefore if you support saints, you want them to do well e.g. avoid relegation, to do that Wotte has to do well, therefore if you support saints you want him to do well.

 

So, you think someone who supports their team, hopes a new manager will do well and will judge him on performances is narrow minded - and someone who wants him to fail purely because of who appointed him -even though it means his team suffering has a valid and rational view?

 

I won't worry too much about your continual character assessments now!;)

 

Sometimes, in life, Nick, you have to take one step back so you can take two steps forward. I think your views, although always politely expressed are sometimes one-dimensional. Not sure, without knowing you whether that is just your personality or you deliberately take that route to wind people up. UP makes a valid point imo.

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"The only thing we should be doing at the moment is getting behind Mark Wotte and the players and giving them full support and trying to create an atmosphere in the stadium where everyone is behind the team"

 

Leon Crouch.

 

Interesting that he names Wotte and says "only thing".

 

He goes on to say there will be an inquest at the end of the season - not now.

 

He goes up in my estimation.

 

What's that???

 

Humility and a call for genuine support without taking a dig at others??

 

That man Crouch will never be a successful CEO and FC Chairman acting like that ;)

 

CROUCH FOR CHAIRMAN

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You keep burying your head in the sand.

 

Why, because he's supporting the team and the person whom is running the team? For you to want Wotte to fail because he was employed by your best mate means you don't really like our club so why don't you take your support elsewhere because quite simple, you ain't no supporter of SFC if you want us to lose.

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You have to understand that for Stanley, Hating Lowe is what Supporting Saints is to the rest of us. It's his passion, his hobby. Saints is incidental. If Rupert took over at Swindon he'd start to support them just to be able to hate Lowe. I have a suspicion he might have been Rupert's fag at school - that would explain the obsessive hatred

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Why, because he's supporting the team and the person whom is running the team? For you to want Wotte to fail because he was employed by your best mate means you don't really like our club so why don't you take your support elsewhere because quite simple, you ain't no supporter of SFC if you want us to lose.

 

If i was given a choice between relegation/administration and Lowe remianing at the club i'd take the former every time. It's because i love Saints that i hate Lowe with a passion. The scumbags on here that support Lowe are traitors.

 

MOD's EDIT: Please cut out the insults, Stanley. Ta.

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You have to understand that for Stanley, Hating Lowe is what Supporting Saints is to the rest of us. It's his passion, his hobby. Saints is incidental. If Rupert took over at Swindon he'd start to support them just to be able to hate Lowe. I have a suspicion he might have been Rupert's fag at school - that would explain the obsessive hatred

 

Andrew Cowen was Ruperts public school fag.

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So, you think someone who supports their team, hopes a new manager will do well and will judge him on performances is narrow minded

 

Once again you're either being obtuse, argumentative or dare I say it you're just not that intelligent (if I'm being honest, I think it's probably option 1 or 2).

 

I have never suggested that someone who supports their team, hopes the manager will do well and will judge him on his perforamnces is narrow minded. You're being extremely disengenuous to suggest that is/was the case.

 

However, what I said is narrow minded is your inability to recognise that others may hold and espouse an opinion that is different from yours, an opinion which although you, I and others may not agree with, is validly held, rationally thought through and sensibly espoused.

 

As FF has noted, I think your one dimensional approach does you no favours whatsoever and this is clearly demonstrated by your inability to accept that others may genuinely hold a different opinion to yourself.

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..............

If he is a good manager he will be supported by nearly all saints fans.

 

Why don't you judge on football rather than prejudging him?........

 

 

You make the big mistajke of assuming he is great. Where's the track record? Where's the record in Holland? Where's his record at Saints?

 

At the most charitable, you'd say the jury is out. Prejudgement would say "on the balance of evidence this is a foolhardy experiment". Just like the others have been.

 

Judgement needs evidence. all the evidence poitns to something not very nice....

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I said "if".

 

Still not convinced but I hope that he comes our greatest manager ever -as I always would with new manager.

 

Doubt that but think he is doing somewhere between ok and quite good at this very early stage - and will keep judging him on how he does.

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"The only thing we should be doing at the moment is getting behind Mark Wotte and the players and giving them full support and trying to create an atmosphere in the stadium where everyone is behind the team"

 

Leon Crouch.

 

Interesting that he names Wotte and says "only thing".

 

He goes on to say there will be an inquest at the end of the season - not now.

 

He goes up in my estimation.

 

Will Lowe go down in your estimation when he throws any olive branch back in Crouch's face ?

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Yeah right, i'll never get behind the arrogant Dutch w4nker.

 

Stanley, along with your earlier post regards our most hated chairmen, I think we could all learn a lot from you on how to construct and present well thought out, incisive arguement, but tell me where is Ollie Hardy....another fine mess you have got yourself into...idiot.

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Stanley, along with your earlier post regards our most hated chairmen, I think we could all learn a lot from you on how to construct and present well thought out, incisive arguement, but tell me where is Ollie Hardy....another fine mess you have got yourself into...idiot.

 

1. He's arrogant.

2. He's Dutch.

3. He's a w4nker.

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If i was given a choice between relegation/administration and Lowe remianing at the club i'd take the former every time. It's because i love Saints that i hate Lowe with a passion. The scumbags on here that support Lowe are traitors.

 

Perhaps you should take a look at your own arguments and comments thus far. They appear to come from a prepubescent 12 year old who has problems forming any cogent argument.

 

Calling people scumbags purely because they have views that differ from your own does nothing to enhance the anti Lowe corner whatsoever - it makes it appear to be full of errr well in your language - total numpties.

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Perhaps you should take a look at your own arguments and comments thus far. They appear to come from a prepubescent 12 year old who has problems forming any cogent argument.

 

Calling people scumbags purely because they have views that differ from your own does nothing to enhance the anti Lowe corner whatsoever - it makes it appear to be full of errr well in your language - total numpties.

 

when the word lowe is mentioned he loses all self control:Dlike a spurned lover.

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