saints_is_the_south Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Hopefully this isn't too late but I'm going to try & set up a bucket collection for tomorrow. I'd like to have between 6 & 10 volunteers to basically give up their Saturday morning to walk around Southampton city centre with a bucket trying to get people to put any sort of cash in the buckets. Once i have news from the club on their fund raising ideas which should be appearing on the OS at some stage today i'll be able to get something more concrete together. I know the money raised through this won't be an awful late but we haven't got enough time to be sat around doing nothing, so whilst bigger plans to help save the club are being thought through lets make a start with this. At the very least it might be enough to pay some of the stewards or ticket office staff's wages tomorrow which will help the club no end. Please PM me if you fancy it & i hope to get back to you this afternoon with more details. Cheers PS Sticky please mods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Nice idea - but you'll gain more if you can attract media attention to this scheme in order to show that fans are trying their best than of course in the monies raised. Please can someone put him in touch with their own media connections to publicise this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 And do what exactly? We're not a league 2 club trying to club together 500k to stay afloat, we're 30million in debt. I don't doubt your intentions and I applaud you for getting of your arse and doing something, but it'll be an utter waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 3 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Nice idea - but you'll gain more if you can attract media attention to this scheme in order to show that fans are trying their best than of course in the monies raised. Please can someone put him in touch with their own media connections to publicise this. This was my plan but first i wanted to gauge how many volunteers I'd get...etc before i went telling the media about it. Once i have something for definate i'll get in touch with the echo, south today...etc If anybody has contact details for any media connections please pm them to me. cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 3 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 3 April, 2009 And do what exactly? We're not a league 2 club trying to club together 500k to stay afloat, we're 30million in debt. I don't doubt your intentions and I applaud you for getting of your arse and doing something, but it'll be an utter waste of time. Like i said, i know it won't amount to a massive amount of money but surely every little helps? If it raises enough to pay the stewards wages tomorrow then it will be worth it IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 And do what exactly? We're not a league 2 club trying to club together 500k to stay afloat, we're 30million in debt. I don't doubt your intentions and I applaud you for getting of your arse and doing something, but it'll be an utter waste of time. At least he's doing something. Don't be so ****ing negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Don't you have to be a registered fundraiser before you can do that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 At least he's doing something. Don't be so ****ing negative. Im being realistic. What exactly will he do with the money. Legally he'll have to hand it over to the administrators and it will add a drop to the ocean. Just think its a shame to rob what little money everyone has at the moment towards a pointless gesture. If we're going to raise money, it need to be done in a meaningful way, giving £5 outside the stadium is going to do nothing. I just dont think people have got a realistic grip on exactly how in the **** we are. If a house was burning down, throwing a glass of water on it helps too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Like i said, i know it won't amount to a massive amount of money but surely every little helps? If it raises enough to pay the stewards wages tomorrow then it will be worth it IMO.Great sentiment SitS , it certainly will be poignant seeing buckets collecting a few bob for our club.Baj is right though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 I agree with Baj. Listening to the administrator it really hit home just how in the **** we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Whilst I agree 100% with Baj et al. that is wont make a bit of difference; it will be views as the fans being pro-active and really trying to help the club... which is good PR for the club, the fans and the City. A potential investor will want to see stuff like that. Saints in community? Saints are the ****ing community, so whilst it will be like trying to clean an HGV with a toothbrush... do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 3 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 3 April, 2009 it will be views as the fans being pro-active and really trying to help the club... which is good PR for the club, the fans and the City. A potential investor will want to see stuff like that. Saints in community? Saints are the ****ing community, so whilst it will be like trying to clean an HGV with a toothbrush... do it! Exactly. Unfortuantly i don't have a couple of grand to donate to the club. It might not be the best idea ever but I'm just desperate to do something. I completly understand the state the club is in & realise that a simple bucket collection won't raise much it might pay part of the stewards wages tomorrow which will surely help the club in some way. If i have enough volunteers by this afternoon i'll look at pursuing it, if not then i'll forget it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Hopefully this isn't too late but I'm going to try & set up a bucket collection for tomorrow. I'd like to have between 6 & 10 volunteers to basically give up their Saturday morning to walk around Southampton city centre with a bucket trying to get people to put any sort of cash in the buckets. Once i have news from the club on their fund raising ideas which should be appearing on the OS at some stage today i'll be able to get something more concrete together. I know the money raised through this won't be an awful late but we haven't got enough time to be sat around doing nothing, so whilst bigger plans to help save the club are being thought through lets make a start with this. At the very least it might be enough to pay some of the stewards or ticket office staff's wages tomorrow which will help the club no end. Please PM me if you fancy it & i hope to get back to you this afternoon with more details. Cheers PS Sticky please mods? Lee this may only raise 10 bob it may raise 10k but you can count on me being there for the palace game with a bucket in my hand and the Saints in my heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 If the money is given to the football club it would not go to the administrator as the FC is still solvent,trading and not in administration. Count the money, open a bank account aned send the club the cheque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Can we not set up a donation page on this site? Weymouth have tried the same but do not have the support that we do. We must be able to have a Paypal set up on this site where we can donate and then get the word out and about around the stadium and in the Echo. It would be a good advert for this site and would create more members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 I'm pretty sure that would be illegal unless it's officially registered. Think about it, anyone could grab a bucket and say they were collecting for Saints, then just walk home with a bucket full of cash. It's a nice idea, but you can get into serious trouble for stuff like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 And the Irony is that it will be used to pay players wages that dont need the money. Maybe a campaign for the players to forgo thier wages until then end of April would be a better option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 I'm pretty sure that would be illegal unless it's officially registered. Think about it, anyone could grab a bucket and say they were collecting for Saints, then just walk home with a bucket full of cash. It's a nice idea, but you can get into serious trouble for stuff like that. I'm pretty skint actually. Nice idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Great sentiment SitS , it certainly will be poignant seeing buckets collecting a few bob for our club.Baj is right though Agree completely with Nick and Baj and it sickens me to see the headlines in the Echo like 'Now Lowe's gone let's fill the stadium' and the rallying calls on here from those who have deliberately boycotted the club in the past season and helped bring about it's downfall. For the extra 10,000 or more supporters who are going to the game tomorrow. Well done, but where the hell were you when we needed you most? Do you seriously believe a buyer of substance can be found in 24 days and by making an effort, now the war has been lost, you believe you can kid a buyer we are a well supported club, worthy of saving because of the revenue we can generate in the intervening years before a serious campaign can be launched to return to the Premiership? Given that we are not exactly acting within the spirit of the rules of a Holding Co as laid down by the Football league in that the Holding Company did not own a diverse portfolio of companies and solely represented a football club 100% I think the league will deduct points ensuring relegation and reducing the list of potential buyers even further and I doubt our fickle fanbase will turn out to watch a home game against Huddersfield to the tune of 26,000. Well at least until the last few games of the season if we are in with a hint of promotion or further disaster. Its shameful and a disgrace that all these 'supporters' now creep out of the woodwork in some misguided belief everything will be fine and rosy when I fear with I expect most of the loyal fans who have stuck by the club that the future is far from certain and to say it's bleak would not be overstating the position. I'm sorry SITS by whilst I admire your efforts a whip round at this stage looks frankly ridiculous although it may give some hope to the programme sellers, stewards and bar staff that they are not working tomorrow as volunteers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Whilst I agree 100% with Baj et al. that is wont make a bit of difference; it will be views as the fans being pro-active and really trying to help the club... which is good PR for the club, the fans and the City. A potential investor will want to see stuff like that. Saints in community? Saints are the ****ing community, so whilst it will be like trying to clean an HGV with a toothbrush... do it! Pancake you don't think an investor will look at revenues and support prior to tomorrow's game. If they do the figures will show that we can fill our stadium for crunch games or attractive cup ties but we don't have the following of our peers to sustain ourselves whilst we rebuild for the future. We need a mug with very deep pockets and they're a bit thin on the ground. A serious businessman like Sugar, Paphitis or Hearn (as examples of businessman who bought into clubs) are not going to touch us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John D Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Agree completely with Nick and Baj and it sickens me to see the headlines in the Echo like 'Now Lowe's gone let's fill the stadium' and the rallying calls on here from those who have deliberately boycotted the club in the past season and helped bring about it's downfall. For the extra 10,000 or more supporters who are going to the game tomorrow. Well done, but where the hell were you when we needed you most? Do you seriously believe a buyer of substance can be found in 24 days and by making an effort, now the war has been lost, you believe you can kid a buyer we are a well supported club, worthy of saving because of the revenue we can generate in the intervening years before a serious campaign can be launched to return to the Premiership? Given that we are not exactly acting within the spirit of the rules of a Holding Co as laid down by the Football league in that the Holding Company did not own a diverse portfolio of companies and solely represented a football club 100% I think the league will deduct points ensuring relegation and reducing the list of potential buyers even further and I doubt our fickle fanbase will turn out to watch a home game against Huddersfield to the tune of 26,000. Well at least until the last few games of the season if we are in with a hint of promotion or further disaster. Its shameful and a disgrace that all these 'supporters' now creep out of the woodwork in some misguided belief everything will be fine and rosy when I fear with I expect most of the loyal fans who have stuck by the club that the future is far from certain and to say it's bleak would not be overstating the position. I'm sorry SITS by whilst I admire your efforts a whip round at this stage looks frankly ridiculous although it may give some hope to the programme sellers, stewards and bar staff that they are not working tomorrow as volunteers. Disagree Simply put - every extra fan who attends is an example of the potential fan base that a prospective investor can tap into. I wasn't a stayaway but I'm not going to have a go at those who were. You seem far too hung up on the past. Fact is we are in the **** and the more fans we get in the next 3 games the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Whilst I agree 100% with Baj et al. that is wont make a bit of difference; it will be views as the fans being pro-active and really trying to help the club... which is good PR for the club, the fans and the City. A potential investor will want to see stuff like that. Saints in community? Saints are the ****ing community, so whilst it will be like trying to clean an HGV with a toothbrush... do it! Here here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefuriousb Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Bucket collections may raise vital revenue in keeping the club going longer than the initial 24 days the administrators gave. We still have to get beyond April. Who knows.... it may help over the summer when the income streams are at their lowest. If the sticky at the top of the page can raise quarter mil for a fans-run club, then could it be better pledged in the more immediate term? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leehoudini Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Im being realistic. What exactly will he do with the money. Legally he'll have to hand it over to the administrators and it will add a drop to the ocean. Just think its a shame to rob what little money everyone has at the moment towards a pointless gesture. If we're going to raise money, it need to be done in a meaningful way, giving £5 outside the stadium is going to do nothing. I just dont think people have got a realistic grip on exactly how in the **** we are. If a house was burning down, throwing a glass of water on it helps too. Will he need to hand it to the administrators? Surely if the money is given to the Club and NOT the parent company, then the club can keep the money. It is the parent company which has gone afterall not the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lightjaw Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 I too applaud any efforts made. Good on you for trying. Will empty my pockets when i see the bucket! Was reminded again about a club a work colleague supports from the "If Saints disappeared....." thread. He's a Brentford supporter (still hasn't forgotten the fa cup ticket thing!). But if a small club like Brentford can conquer £8 million pounds worth of debt, then why can't we learn from them and ask what they done? It's a supporters run club now, looking to finance a new stadium. Bees United i think they're called. We can only learn and try to save this great club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohwhenthesaints Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 It might possibly be more effective if you do collections at the turnstiles rather than wandering around in the city centre. Every little helps though so good on you for trying to sort this out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Get there for when the players do and take a collection from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsone Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 This was my plan but first i wanted to gauge how many volunteers I'd get...etc before i went telling the media about it. Once i have something for definate i'll get in touch with the echo, south today...etc If anybody has contact details for any media connections please pm them to me. cheers. If you want some publicity - check your personal email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 3 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Just had this email from ITV Meridian, must have got my email address from facebook i guess. Hi, I am a reporter with Meridian Tonight. We would be keen to come and film with you tomorrow - with your collection boxes. Maybe meeting up at your home (or a pub?) or somewhere as you prepare - and then filming at the stadium. We want to publicise how determined Saints fans are to help their club. Let me know if you're interested. Andrew Pate Theres still time if anybody is up for it? I don't really care whether it raises £10 or £1k atleast i know I've tried to do something no matter how small it be. ITV are willing to follow it so if anybody wants to volunteer then PM me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 i'll help by going to the game, £15 to the fund Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulSaint Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 We must be able to have a Paypal set up I am on the case, been talking to the club fro 2 days now. Will update this site when there is some news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 And do what exactly? We're not a league 2 club trying to club together 500k to stay afloat, we're 30million in debt. I don't doubt your intentions and I applaud you for getting of your arse and doing something, but it'll be an utter waste of time. The 30 Million figure isn't relevant it's more like 6 million as the stadium loan is secured on the asset and givn decent support from the fans and a little understanding from AVIVA can be serviced by the club in what ever form it goes forward. Every little helps to chip away at the overdraft and make it easier for someone to buy the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lightjaw Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Hows about a sponsored "walk to Sheffield Wednesday" from Southampton. And take your buckets along for the walk. Media coverage on the way would boost the worthy cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Hows about a sponsored "walk to Sheffield Wednesday" from Southampton. And take your buckets along for the walk. Media coverage on the way would boost the worthy cause. Nottingham for the last game of the season would be a good idea. A sponsored walk... this idea could have legs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 in the current climate I can't see too many people being happy at handing over their hard earned to keep a football club afloat. After banks, I'd say professional football is viewed as the next worse thing in terms of greed and overspending. I know we all love the club, but why would any man on the street hand over their cash when they know it goes straight into the hands of overpaid premadonna footballers? What's required to save SFC is a businessman that has the right kind of money and nouse to speculate and accumalate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Maybe it would be best to hit city center and the pubs with this, as I've heard a rumour the club themselves will be arranging collections on the turnstiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exit2 Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 you will need a ****ing big bucket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Get permission to do it inside the stadium after 2pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlehead Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 The 30 Million figure isn't relevant it's more like 6 million as the stadium loan is secured on the asset and givn decent support from the fans and a little understanding from AVIVA can be serviced by the club in what ever form it goes forward. Every little helps to chip away at the overdraft and make it easier for someone to buy the club. Only £1 million per bucket required then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemel Saint Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Why dont the club add a voluntary donation on top of each ticket bought (ie £10)? If they had done it for Charlton then the tickets would have been the normal matchday price! Worth a thought for Palace perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccerMom Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 in the current climate I can't see too many people being happy at handing over their hard earned to keep a football club afloat. After banks, I'd say professional football is viewed as the next worse thing in terms of greed and overspending. I know we all love the club, but why would any man on the street hand over their cash when they know it goes straight into the hands of overpaid premadonna footballers? What's required to save SFC is a businessman that has the right kind of money and nouse to speculate and accumalate. I really have to agree with this. I love SFC. I think it's hugely important for the city, and I can't put a price on what I get from it in terms of spending time with my boy, let alone just the joy of watching football for myself. I think it does great things for the community that are irreplaceable. And I'm very happy to put money - and maybe quite a lot of money - into a consortium through which I will own a part of the club, but I absolutely am not going to hand my extremely hard-earned cash over completely blind, knowing that it's to pay the wages of a footballer who earns in a week what it takes me months to pull together. It's absurd and, frankly, immoral - no one actually *needs* £8K a week. Show me the registered charity that organises the Racism Isn't Saintly campaign or the collaborations with schools, and I'll donate to that. At least they can get gift aid on it, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo's a pansy Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Health and safety officials have just announced that if a bucket were to drop on somebody and break their foot, then the collector could be in serious trouble. They suggest that all buckets are firmly attached to a firm anchorage point such as a lampost or similar, and are only removed under supervision of a qualified bucket inspector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 From everything I am hearing through the grapevine, the most critical issue RIGHT NOW is giving the Administrators enough TIME to get the expressions of INTEREST to turn into an actual payment of monies to buy the football club. There seems to be a process that involves some kind of due dilligence, and no doubt negotiations with the creditors. As we see with the 24 days comment, reports of senior players deferring wages and the comments about bouncing cheques, it shows that our current CASH situation at the club is not good. If you ARE lucky enough to be able to get to the game today and there ARE collecting boxes then every extra pound you can give will get TIME added to that ticking clock. As fans we can help the next few days, let the big boys worry about the overall negotiations. We just need to give them more TIME. I can't get there but I'll make sure a mate drops somethng in. Every little counts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastcowzer Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Hopefully this isn't too late but I'm going to try & set up a bucket collection for tomorrow. I'd like to have between 6 & 10 volunteers to basically give up their Saturday morning to walk around Southampton city centre with a bucket trying to get people to put any sort of cash in the buckets. Once i have news from the club on their fund raising ideas which should be appearing on the OS at some stage today i'll be able to get something more concrete together. I know the money raised through this won't be an awful late but we haven't got enough time to be sat around doing nothing, so whilst bigger plans to help save the club are being thought through lets make a start with this. At the very least it might be enough to pay some of the stewards or ticket office staff's wages tomorrow which will help the club no end. Please PM me if you fancy it & i hope to get back to you this afternoon with more details. Cheers PS Sticky please mods? Paying the stewards. ! For what some of them do, they should be paying the Club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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