SaintNeil90 Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Lets get a little campaign going. I've set up the facebook group.... http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=86737328514&ref=mf Feel free to join. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Beaten to it I'm afraid... http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/group.php?gid=87104624628&ref=nf Wow, Dalek isn't the only one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 FFS Give it a rest, Strachan will not be managing us in League 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 FFS Give it a rest, Strachan will not be managing us in League 1. Why not, he managed Coventry in the old Div 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowesboy Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Get real,Strachan aint going to manage a third division club after successfuly managing one of the biggest clubs in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Wouldn't want GS anywhere near SMS thankyou. Not temperamentally suited to being a good manager. He gets teams fit and organised but they don't play decent football. It never ceases to amaze me how much stick Hoddle gets for walking out on Saints to join his old club and yet Strachan is forgiven for turning his back on us for no one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 1. It is time to move forward not back. 2. Let us let the new management team sort out the structure and people they want to have run the football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Have to agree with Fitzgugh on WGS Glen Hoddle is another matter - it was the way he did it without respect or integrity - not that he left us for Spurs. Mind you all he had to do was say sorry like Gorman did and he'd have been welcome back They did both walk out on us though And Strachan like Keegan is a quitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBadger Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I think his post match interviews warrant a return if nothing else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie2008 Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I think his post match interviews warrant a return if nothing else E.g. On arrival at Saints. Reporter: Welcome to Southampton Football Club. Do you think you are the right man to turn things around? Strachan: No. I was asked if I thought I was the right man for the job and I said, "No, I think they should have got George Graham because I'm useless." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Have to agree with Fitzgugh on WGS Glen Hoddle is another matter - it was the way he did it without respect or integrity - not that he left us for Spurs. Mind you all he had to do was say sorry like Gorman did and he'd have been welcome back They did both walk out on us though And Strachan like Keegan is a quitter How is he a quitter? Coventry sacked him. I think we know the real reasons why he left saints. Has spent 4 successful years at Celtic which is not bad for a manager these days. As for style of play, yes it is not the most exciting but it is the type of organised and physically strong type of football required to get us out of league 1. Tippy tappy type football is not going to do it in this league as it didn't in the championship. My only real problem was how he got the team to play in the fa cup final, other than that he seems to have the ability to get the team working for him and running their hearts out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Bob Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 If Strachan had been given the financial backing to take the club forward following the 2002/03 season he would have stayed. We would also still be a Premiership club. OK, maybe his focus was on getting the squad fit but how many games did we lose in the last 10 minutes when he was in charge? Fitness should be the primary focus of any player, the classic example being that of our own legend Mr Le Tissier. He was undoubtedly one of the most gifted players ever to play in English football but his fitness always held him back. Who-ever comes in to manage us next season must put priority on fitness. It will be imperative in the 3rd division that we have the physical strength to defend to the best of our ability beyond the 80th minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Wouldn't want GS anywhere near SMS thankyou. Not temperamentally suited to being a good manager. He gets teams fit and organised but they don't play decent football. It never ceases to amaze me how much stick Hoddle gets for walking out on Saints to join his old club and yet Strachan is forgiven for turning his back on us for no one. Well to be fair, Hoddle bailed when we still had almost all our difficult fixtures left with Saints, sneakily, overnight with no notice. Strachan would have completed his contract had he not been forced out early when news that he was leaving broke. He also achieved a lot more at Saints than Hoddle by getting us into Europe and to a Cup Final. The two are hardly comparable. Having said that, stuff all chance of him coming back while we're scuffling around the third division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 FF you are a bit mental. Strachan is leagues above us in terms of ambition and quality, the last 4 seasons he has been managing in the CL, while we have drifted very close to obscurity..... If he came back i would be delighted and ecstatic, but i don't see it happening some how. And for a ginger bloke with a big nose, his daughter was not half bad if i recall my Barton Peveril days correctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 FF you are a bit mental. Strachan is leagues above us in terms of ambition and quality, the last 4 seasons he has been managing in the CL, while we have drifted very close to obscurity..... If he came back i would be delighted and ecstatic, but i don't see it happening some how. And for a ginger bloke with a big nose, his daughter was not half bad if i recall my Barton Peveril days correctly This will be my second "rule 1" in 4 days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 You can't talk about people's daughters on here but you can call Irish people paddies if you like. Personally I'd like to see Strachan back but...he'll probably dash our hopes and go to Pompey. But to say he is not a good manager after his record at Celtic, and us (more particularly) is nonsense. Still didn't get them up for that FA Cup final, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Stimp Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 FF you are a bit mental. Strachan is leagues above us in terms of ambition and quality, the last 4 seasons he has been managing in the CL, while we have drifted very close to obscurity..... If he came back i would be delighted and ecstatic, but i don't see it happening some how. And for a ginger bloke with a big nose, his daughter was not half bad if i recall my Barton Peveril days correctly Agree, and I'm also not quite sure how a facebook group is going to convince Strachan to join us.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I would love him back personally, but a Facebook group, other than give an indication of the feelings of a minority of internet-savvy supporters, is not going to have the slightest influence on whether or not it will happen - so I'll give it a miss thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Well I'm joining! Its a bit of fun, if it happens fantastic, if it doesnt then it doesnt matter does it? Also I cant understand how people can criticise his management style - in the last five seasons the bloke has proved himself to be one of the best. He got us into the Uefa Cup FFS! However I still think MLT is gonna be made manager - all that stuff Lynam wrote about not underestimating his abilities, sounds as though he is preparing us for Le God's surprise appointment so as to minimise negative reaction from fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handyman Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Strachan obviously knows that the best way for a manager to shine is to take an ailing team an turn it into a successfull one. Once the club is up it gets harder and further success also. I believe that is why Gordon left Celtic and others. All very good reasons to come back to us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Wouldn't want GS anywhere near SMS thankyou. Not temperamentally suited to being a good manager. He gets teams fit and organised but they don't play decent football. It never ceases to amaze me how much stick Hoddle gets for walking out on Saints to join his old club and yet Strachan is forgiven for turning his back on us for no one. Sorry FF that is wrong IMO, I get Setanta free as part of my Virgin package and have watched loads of Celtic games. I have been impressed with the way they pass the ball about, Ok we all know Scottish football is not as strong as the PL etc but you still have to play the right way. Strachans team had players like Nakamura, McGeedie, McDonald who are hardly built for hit and hope players. Celtic didn't do too bad in the CL considering the budget they work to compared with the other clubs in it. Not for one minute do I think he will come back and just maybe we are better remembering the good times and not ruin it. I never did enjoy going out with a girlfriend the second time...never ever felt as good as the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 i do not want him back, i want us to look forward as a club with a new manager with new ideas, who knows lower/non league football and can build a squad of 20 first team players. WGS does not meet those crtieria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mase Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Champions League to Johnstones Paint Trophy? I don’t think so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 (edited) Wouldn't want GS anywhere near SMS thankyou. Not temperamentally suited to being a good manager. He gets teams fit and organised but they don't play decent football. It never ceases to amaze me how much stick Hoddle gets for walking out on Saints to join his old club and yet Strachan is forgiven for turning his back on us for no one. WTF? We may not have played like Barcelona, but we still played some good stuff under Strachan. The football we played under Strachan was 10 times better than anything we've had since. It wasn't exactly Branfoot was it? His Celtic record is better than Martin O'Neill's with less money, and O'Neill is treated like a managerial god. He is a top manager. Edited 1 June, 2009 by Papa Shango Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Champions League to Johnstones Paint Trophy? I don’t think so! Why not? we went European Football to JPT in 6 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 This will be my second "rule 1" in 4 days... Yeah, but I bet you don't get a pic on this one. Now MLT's niece however........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjk Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 1st Choice - Steve Coppell 2nd Choice - Paul Ince. 3rd Choice - Paul Jewell 4th Choice - Adie Boothroyd 5th Choice - Iain Dowie. I'd be happy with any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Ian Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 WTF? One of the most ridicoulous things ever written on here. We may not have played like Barcelona, but we still played some good stuff under Strachan. The football we played under Strachan was 10 times better than anything we've had since. His Celtic record is better than Martin O'Neill's with less money, and O'Neill is treated like a managerial god. He is a top manager. I usually agree with FF on most things, but have to agree with you here Papa. Strachan showed passion. He had our players fit, organised, motivated and we had a winning mentality. All things we have lacked since he left. Ok, we might not have set the world alight with the football we played, but he got results and that's what counts. At the end of the day, I would much rather see my team win, rather than playing pretty football and ending up with next to nothing every week. The latter being pretty much our story since we dropped out of the Prem. Strachan also gave this club it's best season since Lawrie Mac, when we finished 8th and got to the FA Cup final. The final being my best experience as a Saints fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Would love to see WGS as manager again, would be a real coup to bring him back but perhaps that would be unrealistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
master Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I bet Gordon spends all day on facebook loking for stuff like this. NOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirra Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 WGS has regularly stated his utter disgust at the "ignorant people on the Internet & fans forums" so I wouldn't hold your breath lads ! By the way, this article sums up brilliantly the situation with WGS. Caught the mood perfectly & predicted exactly what happened. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/scottishpremier/4681265/Dull-SPL-title-race-causes-concern.html Gordon was back & Celtic Park yesterday for a charity game. He spoke well of his time & was given a huge round of applause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Wouldn't want GS anywhere near SMS thankyou. Not temperamentally suited to being a good manager. He gets teams fit and organised but they don't play decent football. It never ceases to amaze me how much stick Hoddle gets for walking out on Saints to join his old club and yet Strachan is forgiven for turning his back on us for no one. I agree. Strachan did ok with Celtic, thought many of their fans hated the football -even Scott McDonald can score up there. Even Souness managed to win titles in Scotland, so that says a lot about the quality of that league. A new start requires a new management team IMO, and few managers succeed on a return to an old club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Sorry FF that is wrong IMO, I get Setanta free as part of my Virgin package and have watched loads of Celtic games. I have been impressed with the way they pass the ball about, Ok we all know Scottish football is not as strong as the PL etc but you still have to play the right way. Strachans team had players like Nakamura, McGeedie, McDonald who are hardly built for hit and hope players. Celtic didn't do too bad in the CL considering the budget they work to compared with the other clubs in it. Not for one minute do I think he will come back and just maybe we are better remembering the good times and not ruin it. I never did enjoy going out with a girlfriend the second time...never ever felt as good as the first. Well you know more than me Ron but the Celtic fans didn't like him and John Hartson went as far as saying some hated him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I usually agree with FF on most things, but have to agree with you here Papa. Strachan showed passion. He had our players fit, organised, motivated and we had a winning mentality. All things we have lacked since he left. Ok, we might not have set the world alight with the football we played, but he got results and that's what counts. At the end of the day, I would much rather see my team win, rather than playing pretty football and ending up with next to nothing every week. The latter being pretty much our story since we dropped out of the Prem. Strachan also gave this club it's best season since Lawrie Mac, when we finished 8th and got to the FA Cup final. The final being my best experience as a Saints fan. Whilst I accept some of what you say, I distinctly remember for many games under WGS we were awful to watch. I accept that what has happened since he has left has been much worse but at the time I rememer thinking how football had been better under Jones (before his troubles), Souness and Hoddle. As we were never going to win the Prem the quality of our football was important and I maintain - apart from a few occasions - WGS fell short. And I still don't think he told us the real truth of why he did leave which at the time may have saved us a couple of disastrous years under the continued flawed stewardship of Lowe. But football is all about opinions - I can understand why he is popular but I swear some fans have short memories which is just as well I suppose. (I did like his post match comments however). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duesouth Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Why do people love Strachan? For me he comes in 2nd place to Wupert as to why we were relegated from the Prem - couldn't manage talented players and left us with a team of tryers who thought they were better than they were after the FA Cup run and also were found out by everyone else. He then saw the way it was going and left. Got Celtic so far and has now left - the man is a one trick pony with a bit of Keegan about him. We need someone who has managed at this level before with success - who has got teams out of League One before and then done well in the Championship? No point going for a big name who will leave when they get a better offer or quit if the going gets tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Wouldn't want GS anywhere near SMS thankyou. Not temperamentally suited to being a good manager. Well I'll settle fot eh success he brought to both Celtic and Saints! He gets teams fit and organised but they don't play decent football. I honestly couldn't give a sh*t about "good football". I just want us to win for a change. It never ceases to amaze me how much stick Hoddle gets for walking out on Saints to join his old club and yet Strachan is forgiven for turning his back on us for no one. Really not the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Well you know more than me Ron but the Celtic fans didn't like him and John Hartson went as far as saying some hated him. NP Duncan football is all about opinions and am not surprised some players hated him, look at Kevin Davies who never responded to WGS run/run/run type of training yet thrives on it at Bolton. People moaned about Sir Alf Ramsey and his wingless wonders. Like I said he won't come back here anyway and will have bigger club chasing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 A new start requires a new management team IMO, and few managers succeed on a return to an old club. I can think of one very close to here that did Ok though. Some managers just fit in at places...others don't. I have a bet with my dad that if the UAE take over he will be back by Christmas ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 WGS has regularly stated his utter disgust at the "ignorant people on the Internet & fans forums" so I wouldn't hold your breath lads ! By the way, this article sums up brilliantly the situation with WGS. Caught the mood perfectly & predicted exactly what happened. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/scottishpremier/4681265/Dull-SPL-title-race-causes-concern.html Gordon was back & Celtic Park yesterday for a charity game. He spoke well of his time & was given a huge round of applause. It means he looks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Well you know more than me Ron but the Celtic fans didn't like him and John Hartson went as far as saying some hated him. I remember that many players loved Jan the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 NP Duncan football is all about opinions and am not surprised some players hated him, look at Kevin Davies who never responded to WGS run/run/run type of training yet thrives on it at Bolton. People moaned about Sir Alf Ramsey and his wingless wonders. Like I said he won't come back here anyway and will have bigger club chasing him. Ron, don't get me started on KD, I actually thought Strachan severely mismanaged him. Everyone knew KD had talent but Strachan was very stubborn and alienated a man who sometimes needed an arm around him. Had Davies stayed it is possible his influence properly harnessed could have been the difference between staying up and relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 It's a nice thought, but it's never going to happen. Imo he will go to Newcastle as Shearer is being quite demanding with his contract details. I would love to have him back here though, best Saints manager i've witnessed in my lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Wow I really didn't think there were people who thought Strachan was a bad manager. I'm surprised TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Majestic Channon Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Wouldn't want GS anywhere near SMS thankyou. Not temperamentally suited to being a good manager. He gets teams fit and organised but they don't play decent football. It never ceases to amaze me how much stick Hoddle gets for walking out on Saints to join his old club and yet Strachan is forgiven for turning his back on us for no one. Have you finally lost it ? so you wouldn't want the manager who gave us our best years since lawrie to come back ? If you are worried about pretty football stay away next season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 I think FF is in a very small minority with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Ron, don't get me started on KD, I actually thought Strachan severely mismanaged him. Everyone knew KD had talent but Strachan was very stubborn and alienated a man who sometimes needed an arm around him. Had Davies stayed it is possible his influence properly harnessed could have been the difference between staying up and relegation. Add Leandre Griffet to that list...he scored against Blackburn from the subs bench and was then dropped totally. Ok he could be a bit of a knob at times but I watched him loads in the Ressies(remember this was when we were playing against loads of Prem sides) and he was on fire. KD needs the North to feel at home and settled and WGS didnt see this - although to be fair KD was one of the laziest bast8rds in the squad at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Why do people love Strachan? For me he comes in 2nd place to Wupert as to why we were relegated from the Prem - couldn't manage talented players and left us with a team of tryers who thought they were better than they were after the FA Cup run and also were found out by everyone else. He then saw the way it was going and left. Got Celtic so far and has now left - the man is a one trick pony with a bit of Keegan about him. We need someone who has managed at this level before with success - who has got teams out of League One before and then done well in the Championship? No point going for a big name who will leave when they get a better offer or quit if the going gets tough. Weird how history warps people's recollections... "couldn't manage talented players" ? Did alright with Bridge and Niemi didn't he ? He also turned a lot of reasonably talented underachievers who've done next to nothing since into players who overachieved and outperformed themselves week after week, led by the twin overachievers of Chris Marsden and James Beattie. If you're referring to Fernandes I'm pretty sure Gordon didn't drop him in central London drunk off his face with his car either, and the Delgado thing was at least partially the club not having the infrastructure to accommodate him, and the player himself didn't help matters. They were a "team of triers" who were 4th in the Prem at Xmas 2003 as well, and strangely only seemed to stop trying when they found out he was leaving (I'm guessing that was right before the Boxing Day match at QPR against Fulham judging by the performance)... and strangely those players then didn't try for any of the managers that followed at Saints, until they left the club. Some no longer seemed fit, many were suddenly "injured" for Sturrock... and so on. With the exception of Davies who needed a side built around him, Bridge who mostly benchwarmed for a then-stellar Chelsea side, the already-successful Delgado and, bizarrely, future South American Club Champion winning Kleber Chala, few have had as much success elsewhere as they did under WGS at Saints - certainly none of the "regulars". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Duncan is saying football fans have short memories but I would argue that HE is the one who is changing history. What you have said Duncan is not my recollectionof Strachan's era in the slightest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Matty Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Wouldn't want GS anywhere near SMS thankyou. Not temperamentally suited to being a good manager. He gets teams fit and organised but they don't play decent football. It never ceases to amaze me how much stick Hoddle gets for walking out on Saints to join his old club and yet Strachan is forgiven for turning his back on us for no one. 4-0 against Spurs, 2-0 against Man City (singing it's just like watching Brazil), 1-0 v Man u (last minute winner), 3-2 Arsenal etc etc. I wish we had that boring team back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 1 June, 2009 Share Posted 1 June, 2009 Why do people love Strachan? For me he comes in 2nd place to Wupert as to why we were relegated from the Prem - couldn't manage talented players and left us with a team of tryers who thought they were better than they were after the FA Cup run and also were found out by everyone else. He then saw the way it was going and left. Got Celtic so far and has now left - the man is a one trick pony with a bit of Keegan about him. We need someone who has managed at this level before with success - who has got teams out of League One before and then done well in the Championship? No point going for a big name who will leave when they get a better offer or quit if the going gets tough. In my opinion the definition of a great manager is one who is able to get average players to play above themselves. The likes of Marsden, Telfer, Fernandes etc. were never gonna be world beaters, but WGS filled them with the confidence and belief that they could beat anybody. He also got the best out of our top players, Beattie and Bridge in the England squad, Niemi arguably the best GK in the PL and Michael Svennson was superb. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, i guess I'm just surprised as I thought everyone idolised the wee man as much as me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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