Wotte's job offer, Surman bid, Rasiak to go cheaply

[NickG]

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/4416925.Saints_to_discuss_bids_for_key_players/

[NickG]

Wotte is talking to Pinnacle today, sounds like he is going with him saying he understand they may want their man - not fighting for the job talk!

Confirmed offers Surman and DMG -talking to Pinnacle today.

Will off-load Rasiak and Saga cheaply.

[saint_stevo]

Rasiak back to Watford and Saga back to Poland?

[NickG]

expect so, just hope they hurry up and agree terms so we can stop paying them

[DT]

Personally, I wouldn't lose a moment's sleep if all of them went. Just hope we get more than £2m for Surman and McGoldrick.

And we need a new manager.

Clean sweeps are best in our situation.

[NickG]

new manager is biggest and most interesting decision - more than players coming/going or who owner is

[NickG]

actually think Wotte has come across well over this period and seems a steadying influence for players etc.

 

still think fresh start needed.

[Frank's cousin]

TBF its good to see him act professionally and with dignity - still ahve no problem with hima going back the academy - but a clean break is more likely. Makes a change from the usual whingers and moaners.

[Saint Billy]

As the meeting is today with Wotte and co, is there any signs of BBB,

Bentleys, Bodyguards or Boats.

 

[NickG]

Beckham?

[Frank's cousin]

As the meeting is today with Wotte and co, is there any signs of BBB,

Bentleys, Bodyguards or Boats.

 

 

Pope mobile was spotted though - as I am pretty sure the Vatican is interested in Saints and Pope Benedict will install a Otmar Hitzfeld as Head Coach. (Being German and all) and I have it on good authority that Bratwurst will be served in the concourses as well as Quality German Pilsner to replace that Carlsberg guff.... You heard it hear first

[NickG]

will pizzas improve?

 

think you used a good description of Wotte during this period - dignified.

[SFC Forever]

I have been pleasantly surprised by Wotte's demeanour during the talks. He has done himself no harm at all. He has been exceedingly professional and worked for the club's best interests.

[thorpie the sinner]

Have to say Dowie and Flowers would do for me! Ex Saints and hopefully more in tune with what it will take to get us moving again!

[DT]

I have been pleasantly surprised by Wotte's demeanour during the talks. He has done himself no harm at all. He has been exceedingly professional and worked for the club's best interests.

Probably because he wants a job?

[NickG]

sure he does, but its not fighting talk for it - it appears genuine and professional

[Nineteen Canteen]

new manager is biggest and most interesting decision - more than players coming/going or who owner is

 

I think in this situation the idenity of the new owner is far more important than the new manager who as always will need to manage up as well as down. The quality and the reputation of our new man (woman) will set the tone for the long term future of the club followed by the manager and then the players.

[ottery st mary]

Personally I would have Henderson and Svennsson running Reserves/Youth with Crocker Manager of Academy and utilise Puckett and other age group teams Manage/coaches......I would get navysaint to analysis of youth games as he was spot on.

 

No disrespect Mr Wotte on yer way very nicely and thank you for ....

[NickG]

if it is someone who;

 

1) wants the club!

2) came up with the goods and saved us

3) has convinced MLT that he/she is here for the long-term and return to premiership

4) has £100,s millions and is will to invest as stated

 

Then I cannot imagine being more or less please whoever it is

[LostBoys]

I am not concerned about Dyer and accept that the two Polish players may WANT away but why are we even considering selling Surman and McGoldrick who we need to get out if Div 1 if we are going to have millions in 15 days or whatever?

[Nineteen Canteen]

if it is someone who;

 

1) wants the club!

2) came up with the goods and saved us

3) has convinced MLT that he/she is here for the long-term and return to premiership

4) has £100,s millions and is will to invest as stated

 

Then I cannot imagine being more or less please whoever it is

 

Apart from trying to understand why their idenity should remain a secret now they've won exclusivity, point 4 remains less than specific. Until everything is known about the bid and new structure I personally am trying to play down the potential of the brave new dawn until we know the facts. Too many past disappointments and carried away with the unreasonable expectations of the many have taught me to be cautious and at best hopeful.

[saintjay77]

Unless the new lot have someone ready to come in (bare in mind that by the time they get here pre-season will be up and running) I would have thought Wotte will get the job in the short term and possibly for the coming season. A 1 year contract to see how he does in League 1 with -10 wouldnt be a bad idea IMO.

 

Its going to be a struggle for anyone so why give it to someone new who we will all expect so much more out of?

 

If Wotte shows no signs of improvment in the team then the Owners will have time to find and bring in there manager of choice.

[ottery st mary]

Apart from trying to understand why their idenity should remain a secret now they've won exclusivity, point 4 remains less than specific. Until everything is known about the bid and new structure I personally am trying to play down the potential of the brave new dawn until we know the facts. Too many past disappointments and carried away with the unreasonable expectations of the many have taught me to be cautious and at best hopeful.

 

In MLT I fully trust....No doubt all will be revealed any day....There is hope after all.....;-)

[SW11_Saint]

Unless the new lot have someone ready to come in (bare in mind that by the time they get here pre-season will be up and running) I would have thought Wotte will get the job in the short term and possibly for the coming season. A 1 year contract to see how he does in League 1 with -10 wouldnt be a bad idea IMO.

 

Its going to be a struggle for anyone so why give it to someone new who we will all expect so much more out of?

 

If Wotte shows no signs of improvment in the team then the Owners will have time to find and bring in there manager of choice.

I think Pinnacle already have someone in mind, and it wouldn't surprise me if they hadn't already lined them up. Even if they haven't they'd have a shed-load of applicants and could appoint someone ASAP.

 

Time for Wotte to go - unless he gets offered running the academy or something.

 

It would be a dismal mistake to appoint him and "see how he goes" - we already know he's out of his depth, as JP was - and wouldn't reflect too well on the Pinnacle team. Time for a clean break and a new era.

[thorpie the sinner]

I think Pinnacle already have someone in mind, and it wouldn't surprise me if they hadn't already lined them up. Even if they haven't they'd have a shed-load of applicants and could appoint someone ASAP.

 

Time for Wotte to go - unless he gets offered running the academy or something.

 

It would be a dismal mistake to appoint him and "see how he goes" - we already know he's out of his depth, as JP was - and wouldn't reflect too well on the Pinnacle team. Time for a clean break and a new era.

 

New era definitely

[Verbal]

I think in this situation the idenity of the new owner is far more important than the new manager who as always will need to manage up as well as down. The quality and the reputation of our new man (woman) will set the tone for the long term future of the club followed by the manager and then the players.

 

Sounds like you've just experienced a Damascene conversion - because by the same token, the quality of the OLD chairman also set the tone for the long term future of the club. Hence we're where we are. Presumably then you'll now happily accept that Lowe had 'double relegation and ruin' stamped through him like Brighton rock.

 

Welcome to the dark side (and sorry to bring up what now seems ancient history).

[Fan The Flames]

TBF its good to see him act professionally and with dignity - still ahve no problem with hima going back the academy - but a clean break is more likely. Makes a change from the usual whingers and moaners.

 

As opposed to the way he acted when Lowe was here and for that reason alone get rid of the ****. You are praising him for what he should be doing as a professional manager, he should act professionally and with dignity, he is only worried about his future in English football. My piece of advice to Wotte The F**K is take one of the many jobs you've been offered and try not to slag the fans off in future.

[St Marco]

Personally i don't take what Wotte says with any ounce of truth. Remember he said "if i fail to keep Southamptin in the Championship then of course i will resign and look for employment elsewhere. But im very confident in my abilities and believe i will keep them in this league". Over a month later and no resignation after his failure of keeping us up.

 

So when he says "I have received offers from abroad", i take that to mean "I have been offered bugger all at any decent level football club, but if i mention it then they might think im that bit better then i am, they might think quick we better sign him up before someone else does".

 

I would say thanks and so long but you didn't actually do anything positive. Nothing is worse then being relegated. A shining example of a guy who tried to talk the talk but couldn't walk the walk.

[Ponty]

I'd hope for a clean sweep but I wouldn't be slashing my wrists or baying for the new board's blood if they wanted to give Wotte a year either. It's their money, their club, their choice. I'll just be grateful that the club is there at all, for a while at least.

[ottery st mary]

Sorry...Mr Wotte has failed miserably and it makes no sense to retain him..His contract is up and better coach/Managers are already in place to run the academy...He has done a lot of talking from Holland really and that is where his career should continue...

Nothing dramatic about this...He let the club and the supporters down...NOT up to it in my opinion...Any new owner would sweep clean and hopefully are ready to name new coaching set up.

[these things take time]

Wotte has to go. He can't motivate the players, and his tactics are dreadful

[Nineteen Canteen]

Personally i don't take what Wotte says with any ounce of truth. Remember he said "if i fail to keep Southamptin in the Championship then of course i will resign and look for employment elsewhere. But im very confident in my abilities and believe i will keep them in this league". Over a month later and no resignation after his failure of keeping us up.

 

So when he says "I have received offers from abroad", i take that to mean "I have been offered bugger all at any decent level football club, but if i mention it then they might think im that bit better then i am, they might think quick we better sign him up before someone else does".

 

I would say thanks and so long but you didn't actually do anything positive. Nothing is worse then being relegated. A shining example of a guy who tried to talk the talk but couldn't walk the walk.

 

I believe Wot.te is held in high regard by Jol at Hamburg so not beyond the realms of reality he could have offers in at least Germany and Holland.

 

I have been very impressed by the way Wotte has conducted himself and had Administration not holed his recovery mission I think we could have stayed up in at least the same manner as the messiah Pearson.

 

I hope that Wotte and Svennson are able to stay on at the club and subject to significant investment and change I don't see any reason why Wotte should not be given an opportunity to help bed in the new regime.

 

It really comes down to speculation with regard to actual investment as if we have very little and keeping most of the current squad that played under Wotte we may as well retain his services and see how he gets on without the sceptre of administration hanging over his head and the fan's hatred of his boss.

 

Alternatively, if there is going to be major Investment and an open cheque book for a manager to buy many new players then there is an argument for a major clear out of playing staff and all coaching staff and start afresh. Timings would be an issue though given pre-season is less than a few weeks away so in this instance could only assume there is more than due-diligence going on at the moment.

[Chez]

I am not concerned about Dyer and accept that the two Polish players may WANT away but why are we even considering selling Surman and McGoldrick who we need to get out if Div 1 if we are going to have millions in 15 days or whatever?

 

Dyer wanted to leave, it made no difference that a new buyer was comng in he wanted to get away from Sotuhampton and obviously Swansea offered a very attractive escape route. As for McGoldrick and Surman I think its clear both feel they are good enough toplay in the CCC so they too may be askign for a move (new owner with money or not).

 

For those players the world doesn't stand still whilst due dilligence takes place. Even if the new owners were in place they would still be targets for the likes of Forest.

[Neil]

If Wotte has offers lined up abroad then that's fantastic. We just offer him some minor academy role, he declines and departs. Everyone's a winner.

 

We just need to make a quick managerial appointment. Although I've argued for managerial stability now is the time for yet another change, we just a good one for a few years. Of course if it's a very good one they may leave anyway to another club c'est la vie...

[Chez]

Wotte has to go. He can't motivate the players, and his tactics are dreadful

 

they seemed pretty motivated to me, just lacking in quality.

 

Tactics wise he played long ball, perhaps dictated by the fact the short passing game had us at the foot of the table so he had to try something different.

 

His hands were also tied in terms of selection as there was no one he could bring in. When Gillett was injured I don't think anyone on here was convinced about any of the other players - and they were right, they were all cack.

[Give it to Ron]

they seemed pretty motivated to me, just lacking in quality.

 

Tactics wise he played long ball, perhaps dictated by the fact the short passing game had us at the foot of the table so he had to try something different.

 

His hands were also tied in terms of selection as there was no one he could bring in. When Gillett was injured I don't think anyone on here was convinced about any of the other players - and they were right, they were all cack.

 

Good summary, no pace, no width and no quality summed our season up for me.

[saintjay77]

I think Pinnacle already have someone in mind, and it wouldn't surprise me if they hadn't already lined them up. Even if they haven't they'd have a shed-load of applicants and could appoint someone ASAP.

 

Time for Wotte to go - unless he gets offered running the academy or something.

 

It would be a dismal mistake to appoint him and "see how he goes" - we already know he's out of his depth, as JP was - and wouldn't reflect too well on the Pinnacle team. Time for a clean break and a new era.

 

See I dont think he was out of his depth. He was let down by the players as were we all but the problems he faced were not all of his making. He was better than JP was anyway!

 

The new owners may well have someone lined up and if they bring someone in then they will get my full support but I just think that a bit of stability wouldnt go a miss either. Wotte has OK with a waank team and carried on when others may of walked. We have very little chance of any major achivement next season so we could bring in hiddink and he wouldn't look any good with us next season.

 

I just think that with a pre-season and support from the board Wotte could do better than we expect next season so I wouldnt be unhappy if he were given a season to prove himself.

[St Marco]

I believe Wot.te is held in high regard by Jol at Hamburg so not beyond the realms of reality he could have offers in at least Germany and Holland.

 

I have been very impressed by the way Wotte has conducted himself and had Administration not holed his recovery mission I think we could have stayed up in at least the same manner as the messiah Pearson.

 

I hope that Wotte and Svennson are able to stay on at the club and subject to significant investment and change I don't see any reason why Wotte should not be given an opportunity to help bed in the new regime.

 

It really comes down to speculation with regard to actual investment as if we have very little and keeping most of the current squad that played under Wotte we may as well retain his services and see how he gets on without the sceptre of administration hanging over his head and the fan's hatred of his boss.

 

Alternatively, if there is going to be major Investment and an open cheque book for a manager to buy many new players then there is an argument for a major clear out of playing staff and all coaching staff and start afresh. Timings would be an issue though given pre-season is less than a few weeks away so in this instance could only assume there is more than due-diligence going on at the moment.

 

Sorry mate but thats a load of brown stuff and you know it.

Wotte was here from the very start of the season. He knew the players, he probably had a hand in bringing in some of them. On paper the team should not have been fighting a relegation battle. Administration played no part in his failure to get the team going. Unlike Jan Wotte had the luxuary to play the players he wanted to play, hell he even got a champions league striker back to play. He got players in of which some did ok and some did not.

His conduct was laughable not something to praise. He is a manager so is meant to do what a manager does. Do not praise someone for that. It is like saying well done on being a builder. You don't applaud them for their profession but for what they create, a builder is praised on their building work not on their ability to talk about how they are going to build it. The same rule applies to all proffesions and with Wotte it is no different.

He is employed to act as the manager of this club, the guy who is meant to sort out the running of the day to day activities of the club and speak to the media. He is there because that is what the job entails not because he wants to.

The guy had 5 games short of half a season and at no point did the team looklike it would survive under him. If anything the performances got worse.

He left us further away from safety then what Jan did too.

 

In no area of Wotte's tenure has their been a positive. Again relegation is the worst thing that can happen. It is failure. Administration did not result in us being relegated the players and the coach's did. They are the people on that pitch playing the games. The difference between Pearson and Wotte is Pearson came in with a sinking ship and turned the points ratio around by 100%, which saved us from relegation. Wotte was here from the very start and just continued its downfall.

If the guy could not get a job in Holland i very much doubt he is as well respected as you try and portray amongst the football world.

[Chez]

Good summary, no pace, no width and no quality summed our season up for me.

 

my fear is that we will have the same problems in the League below.

 

Holmes is still going to be slow and ****e, Wotton is going to be slower and uglier than before, Perry will still be too slow and too short, we don't have a big number 9, we dont have pace out wide, up front or at the back. Also we have no squad depth, and any quality at the club is about to leave so we are going to be worse than we were last season and that was bad, real bad.

 

Add to this all free transfers are going to have been snapped up, we know **** all about the quality and availability of players from the lower leagues, our scouting system is appauling...

[Chez]

On paper the team should not have been fighting a relegation battle.

 

I could not disagree with this more. We only just managed to avoid releagtion the previous season and every man and his dog knew that the side contained less quality when we started the new season. I think anyone with sense knew that we would be relegated or very close to relegation with the players at Jan's and then Wotte's disposal.

 

If I'm honest I was very surprised at what an excellent footballing side we were at the start of the season with players like Davis, Lallana and Cork playing out of their skin. But when the resukts didn't go our way confidence dissapeared, the side performance dropped badly and then it was pretty much a foregone conclusion after that.

 

I'm not saying Jan and Wotte did not make lots of mistakes or that they are good managers but with the finances the way they were we had no chance.

[saintjay77]

my fear is that we will have the same problems in the League below.

 

Holmes is still going to be slow and ****e, Wotton is going to be slower and uglier than before, Perry will still be too slow and too short, we don't have a big number 9, we dont have pace out wide, up front or at the back. Also we have no squad depth, and any quality at the club is about to leave so we are going to be worse than we were last season and that was bad, real bad.

 

Add to this all free transfers are going to have been snapped up, we know **** all about the quality and availability of players from the lower leagues, our scouting system is appauling...

 

I think allot of those reasons are why I would be happy(ish) for Wotte to stay for a season. He knows what we have, what we dont have and what we will not have and he has also been busy looking for replacements that will fit in with this league. If he can find a few like Size then next season might not look as bad as we fear.

 

I dont expect mega bucks to be thrown at the team for Wotte or anyone else so anyone coming in will have a limited time to get things sorted. Wotte has a head start on that which might make him the better candidate for now?

[Give it to Ron]

I think allot of those reasons are why I would be happy(ish) for Wotte to stay for a season. He knows what we have, what we dont have and what we will not have and he has also been busy looking for replacements that will fit in with this league. If he can find a few like Size then next season might not look as bad as we fear.

 

I dont expect mega bucks to be thrown at the team for Wotte or anyone else so anyone coming in will have a limited time to get things sorted. Wotte has a head start on that which might make him the better candidate for now?

 

But Wotte was part of the management team with JP that bought in that useless bag of ****e we had on loan last season.

Whatever anyone pretends he was here all last season and in a managerial capacity selecting players - if there is an archive left on the OS have a look if you dont believe me they were championing Wotte and JP as a team.

What contacts will Wotte have in this league?

How many players has he bought over from Holland...one thats hardly a network of talent.

The thought of Wotte's paceless diamond formation fills me with horror again for next season.

[up and away]

Originally Posted by St Marco

On paper the team should not have been fighting a relegation battle.

I could not disagree with this more. We only just managed to avoid releagtion the previous season and every man and his dog knew that the side contained less quality when we started the new season. I think anyone with sense knew that we would be relegated or very close to relegation with the players at Jan's and then Wotte's disposal.

 

If I'm honest I was very surprised at what an excellent footballing side we were at the start of the season with players like Davis, Lallana and Cork playing out of their skin. But when the resukts didn't go our way confidence dissapeared, the side performance dropped badly and then it was pretty much a foregone conclusion after that.

 

I'm not saying Jan and Wotte did not make lots of mistakes or that they are good managers but with the finances the way they were we had no chance.

 

I would agree with that. Our big problem was that we could not defend effectively. Once we sorted out the defence with JP the back was ok but when we lost Gillet the fight from midfield disappeared. Being such a young player, Gillet disapeared after a good beginning, then coming back strongly before being injured again. I thought the heat got to Poortvliet a bit but Wotte looked sound enough.

 

Our main problem was that we were competing for players with League 1 clubs and it is very difficult to come up with a gem to do an effective job in the CCC. Those that were within our reach were no better than what we had in the likes of Wotton etc. So what was the point to buy in more crap to fill the bench's.

[dubai_phil]

IMHO the owners and their management team will be looking at the mess the finances were in. They will then decide what areas they need to invest in and what they need to cut. A lot of surgery is going to be needed, there is no point pouring more cash into the black holes of the last 2 seasons

 

The playing squad and coaching staff represents the largest cost base. They WILL have to reduce it from last season, so the space available for surgery there will determine the amount of money they wish to spend on salaries versus player investment.

 

Decisions will be a mix of restructuring for L1, cost saving and investment. So I expect the big decisions will take a few days yet.

 

But I really do not think for one moment that Wotte will be anywhere near the team in 3 weeks time, just cannot see how his performances justified it nor how someone like MLT would expect to work with someone he did not know. Matt will have more than enough contacts I am sure

[saintjay77]

But Wotte was part of the management team with JP that bought in that useless bag of ****e we had on loan last season.

Whatever anyone pretends he was here all last season and in a managerial capacity selecting players - if there is an archive left on the OS have a look if you dont believe me they were championing Wotte and JP as a team.

What contacts will Wotte have in this league?

How many players has he bought over from Holland...one thats hardly a network of talent.

The thought of Wotte's paceless diamond formation fills me with horror again for next season.

 

I understand where your coming from but I read the "Management Team" thing slightly differently. No point in debating it now as its been done to death but without the external and internal politics going on and a little support I still think Wotte can do better than he has shown. Our biggest problem last season is that we didnt improve the playing staff from the season before. That might be because of poor choices from management/board/whoever or we were shopping in a market more fitting to league 1 than the CCC. Either way the team that couldnt get themselves out of the relegation spots from the season before were not going to have high hopes of achieving the same the following season no matter who was in charge.

 

Like I said before, If the new owners bring in there own guy I have no problem what so ever. I dont think Wotte deserves a chance like I thought Pearson deserved a chance but if he is given a chance then I wont be one who is unhappy about it. I think he can do much better than he has done with the right support, and I think we can get out of this league playing football so not so much need for someone who knows the league IMO.

[Lord Duckhunter]

I dont trust Wotte and dont believe he's had any decent offers from abroad, certainly nothing to compare to what he's got now (which is saying something). I think he's trying to push the owners into a corner, whilst appearing not to.

 

Where has this respect for Wotte and the job he did come from. He was a large part of the worst Managerial team we've ever had, and was hardly any better on his own. He sucked up to Lowe, until Lowe left when he tried to put a bit of distance between themselves.It was his team that was so shocking against Charlton and a couple of other games.

 

Have we fallen so Low, that he is now considered to have done a good job? Any previous Manager would have been run out of town with results like Wotte's, let alone the sly digs at parts of the fan base.People seem to praise him for signing JPS and not being Jan, oh and acting decently during admin.

[Give it to Ron]

I understand where your coming from but I read the "Management Team" thing slightly differently. No point in debating it now as its been done to death but without the external and internal politics going on and a little support I still think Wotte can do better than he has shown. Our biggest problem last season is that we didnt improve the playing staff from the season before. That might be because of poor choices from management/board/whoever or we were shopping in a market more fitting to league 1 than the CCC. Either way the team that couldnt get themselves out of the relegation spots from the season before were not going to have high hopes of achieving the same the following season no matter who was in charge.

 

Like I said before, If the new owners bring in there own guy I have no problem what so ever. I dont think Wotte deserves a chance like I thought Pearson deserved a chance but if he is given a chance then I wont be one who is unhappy about it. I think he can do much better than he has done with the right support, and I think we can get out of this league playing football so not so much need for someone who knows the league IMO.

 

Fair comments but why cant we have two decent defenders, a mobile ball winning midfielder who can pass to his own team, two pacey wingers who threaten defences rather than programme sellers and a big forward in the Howerd mould supplemented with the odd Lallana type..thats all I ask as am sure that formation would get us up to the play-offs its worked for quite a number of teams!

Ok there are odd exceptions like Swansea but for every one of them there is a Burnley/Stoke

[saintjay77]

Fair comments but why cant we have two decent defenders, a mobile ball winning midfielder who can pass to his own team, two pacey wingers who threaten defences rather than programme sellers and a big forward in the Howerd mould supplemented with the odd Lallana type..thats all I ask as am sure that formation would get us up to the play-offs its worked for quite a number of teams!

Ok there are odd exceptions like Swansea but for every one of them there is a Burnley/Stoke

 

I would love to have those types of players and think we were lacking the physical side of our team for ages. Wotte brought a few players back into the mix to try and toughen the team up but the options he had avaialable went exactly what we needed either.

 

If he or anyone else sets the team up like Swansea then they still need to have much of the attributes you said above. Having 8 Lallana's running round getting knocked over all over the place will do us no good. But I think Wotte can see that where JP couldnt.

 

if Wotte did get the chance and had a bit of room for bringing people in it would be interesting to see if he went for namby pamby players or a core set of rock hard players that dont get bullied.

[egreog]

Good to hear Rasiak is off....vastly overpaid for what little he does......has tried elsewhere and not cut it either.......I would bet that wherever he ends up he will find himself warming the bench at best!

[SW11_Saint]

See I dont think he was out of his depth. He was let down by the players as were we all but the problems he faced were not all of his making. He was better than JP was anyway!

 

The new owners may well have someone lined up and if they bring someone in then they will get my full support but I just think that a bit of stability wouldnt go a miss either. Wotte has OK with a waank team and carried on when others may of walked. We have very little chance of any major achivement next season so we could bring in hiddink and he wouldn't look any good with us next season.

 

I just think that with a pre-season and support from the board Wotte could do better than we expect next season so I wouldnt be unhappy if he were given a season to prove himself.

I think people believe Wotte walked through the doors in January for the first time - forgetting that he was complicit in the first half of the season. I agree with you though, he was an improvement on JP, but then I would have been too!

 

I don't see any point in stability for stability's sake... that's fine if you have the right man in the job (and why I wanted to see Nigel Pearson continue, despite him only just saving us from relegation). I just do not see Wotte as that man - and he carries too much "Lowe baggage" in my book to win the majority of fans over (and us all pulling in the same direction is going to be crucial).

 

Have to say, your apparent writing off of this season is disappointing - before we even know who our new owners is, and who our manager will be!! There is absolutely no reason whatsoever that we can't aim for a play-off place, despite our negative points start. I hope most of us have left the negative "make do and mend" Lowe years behind - time to look forward and show a bit of ambition, not write ourselves off already!!

 

COYS!