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I know it's a meaningless game but I keep saying that Patterson looks the part to me. I'd be interested to hear a little bit more about how he performed if possible?

MLT was lazy and a genious. Stern John is lazy. Go on give it your best shot, spot the difference.

he's the best thing since sliced bread IMO. A player with real ability that is also more than happy to work and dive into tackles. He offers tremendous potential and that's why he is worth millions already. We must do everything we can to keep him at least for one more season as he is the last player left at the club that I actually think is worth watching.

2 votes for him in the poll at that times perhaps?

Clive Allan scored 40 odd goals in one season - Spurs must have won the league surely, er no. Conversey Kevin Davies scores **** all for Bolton yet he keeps them up each season. Out of interest do you think Wotton will prove to be an asset next season. I don't think I could have been more slating of him over the last 12 months, but after his showing at Bristol City I felt just a little bit of sympathy for him.

35 in November. Solid full back, and we need some of them, but a bit bloody slow. Nice balance of experience and youth with James and Murty fighting for that right back berth. Perhaps we need the same sort of older head at left back to complement Mills if we get him (and assuming Molyneux goes).

Actually I'm not sure Fry is duty bound to look at it. If (and this is the key) he has already established that they are fakers then it is in the best interest of his creditors to ignore them and concentrate on the bird in the hand so to speak so long as that offer appealed to the creditors.

I certainly appreciated what he did when he first started with us but with every game he did it less and less. Other than cross early using the left boot he did nothing. When he stopped doing that he did absolutely nothing. When he came back from injury he was worse than any other player. Worse than Smith. The other thing you have to remember is he played in the 4-3-3 formation so all he had to do was attack. In a 4-4-2 he's going to have to work up and down and I didn't see a lot of that, certainly not in the second spell. Perhaps that was down to lack of fitness, but I'm just as inclined to think that he doesn't have an engine. The problem is there is no on else now so I am going to have to learn to love him.

don't get me wrong I will judge him when I see him but the players you mention spent just a year or two at that club. Eboue was 19 at the time for example and was quickly snapped up by Arsenal. Our fella is 28 and has been knocking around Belgium for years failing to attract anyone. Slight difference.

I go to pretty much all the games thanks so yes I saw him, too much of him especially when he came back from injury. ****ing overated white boots ****e. So many fans get conned by the old white boots tactic. Flashy boots catching the sun and blinding them into thinking the player is actually tricky and pacey. I don't regard him as injury prone by the way, but the lad simply crossed a few decent balls in using his left foot and that was it. I think we must have spent the rest of the games rubbing our eyes in disbelief (that a Saints player actually got to the byeline and used the correct foot to cross the ball) so much so that this prevented us from seeing that he had usally disappeared after 30 minutes after one kick from a defender. I can't seem to help myself from being overly harsh on the lad, but when I see Surman and Lallana lambasted on here whilst others (probably not the same people I admit) are singing Holmes' praises it just annoys me. Watching Lallana give his all to make himself available and then tackle back whilst Holmes performs the slowest doggies in history between opponents makes me sigh. The drop in division will do him a massive favour. Slower, weaker less talented opposition is what he needs. My fear is the drop in not deep enough.

As I recall we were on a major downturn form wise at the time and looked like we were headed for relegation so it was the perfect excuse to get rid and bring Hoddle in.

I know I should think like this (football is in th enow not the future) but if we play Patterson all next season we will be devloping and putting in the shop window a player in just the same way we did with McGoldrick. That million has saved us if only for a while. If we snub Patterson in favour of John all we do is slow his progression down and risk him leaving for peanuts before he shines elsewhere. Patterson will be on peanuts and rest assured the new buyer is not going to have cash to splash.

very simplistic view of the game. yes you need goal scorers but if you effectivley play with 10 men you are always at a disadvantage. Perhaps there would have been a few less goals scored if we didn't have him in the side, but someone working harder defending from the front, chasing things down, making runs to turn defences might actually have reduced the goals against considerably and maybe we would have gained mroe points overall. We will never know, but I don't put our survival down to Stern John that's for sure. One more thing, we didn't need him - Rasiak offered just as much if not more and his additional wages have been a millstone round our neck (not the only one I know) that have dragged us into this financial mess. Not his fault of course.

I'd like to see us offload Rasiak and Saga (if neither want to be here) before we start adding to the squad otherwise we face another `why sign Forecast when we have 14 other keepers at the club' situation.

is there any rush now £2m has come in to the club? I'd of thought offloading Rasiak's wages was more pressing than finding a buyer.

didn't realise the laziest footballer in the history of the sport bothered with preseason. Mind you I notice he has turned up after the running has been completed. "I don't mind playing in League 1" reads like "No CCC side has signed me yet".

Holmes is garbage, slow, has no trick, no engine, no workrate, doesn't track back, crap in the air, doesn't tackle, I'm not sure his first touch is all that either. Think Anders Svensson without the ability. I am perhaps being a little harsh but when he returned to the side he was appauling, woeful, no absolute utter ****e and a man that looked miles out of his depth. Schneiderlin has a great first touch, two feet and a decent passer. His workrate needs to up, he has to start winning headers and making tackles not to mention offering something gong forward. However he's only 19 and it was his first taste of English football so he should get more leeway than Holmes IMO.

I'm not so sure there were many senior players preventing youngsters coming through last season and most would argue there were in fact far too many `opportunities' for the youngsters to shine.

the combination of Anders Limpar and Paul Merson on the wings in their second championship winning season (the season they wore the terrible yellow/black triangle pattern shirts) at the Dell. Tore us to pieces that day as they steam rolled everyone to win the title.

I'm certainly not worried about the numbers, there will be no problem getting a side out. The loan system means you only need half a squad these days anyway and there is no point getting loans in until much closer to the season starting. What I am concerned about is the quality in the side. We lack a decent spine - downgrading the keeper, having the same problem with Perrys lack of height and pace at the back, no real pace or guile in the middle and the lack of pace up front. We also have very poor wide players and if we manage to offload the drain to funds that is Rasiak, then I don't see goals either. At this point though just putting a team out each week would be good enough for me. I'll upgrade my hopes when a new owner signs on the dotted line.

likewise. I have backed him as I did Fuller and Kenny J. People go on about Saga being messed about and that explained his dips in form but look how Bwp was treated last season. If he had played up front all season we would have stayed up IMO. His pace and running down the channels were badly missed as an out ball. His finishing is poor at times as is his decision making and his long range shooting, but he causes oponents problrems and turns teams round. We played far too much stuff in front of defences because we didn't have an outlet that someone like BWP offers.

won't it be SLH that is liquidated? Won't liquidation mean that all the individual elements on the balance sheet will be sold off seperately, the land, the stadium, the training ground, the club...oh wait a minute does that not mean that someone could then buy one or two of the seperate elements and then bobs your unkle you have yourself a football club, perhaps with the need to rent a training ground or a stadium.

he didn't though and cried for a move to Celtic as I recall.

the more players you sell the less wages there are to pay. Getting rid of Rasiak and Saga's wages would make all the difference. As I said at the end of the season Rasiaks £15k a week for 16 weeks before leaving on the last day of the window for nothing is what will hurt us most.

does he play put wide?