CB Fry

Something about level 4.

I'm not playing with your words. You don't think finishing sixth is an achievement but Wigan winning a cup while finishing 18th is an achievement or Swansea winning a cup while finishing eighth is an achievement. So I continue to not understand why you are complaining about lack of investment in the squad when the thing you want us to achieve - winning the FA Cup or League cup like Swansea/Boro/Leicester - has barely anything to do with squad investment because we're already at the level of Swansea/Boro/Leicester's cup winning teams. The club are not going out of their way to not win a trophy like you seem to think they are. Basically your train of thought/line of argument on this topic is all over the shop.

But the objective measure of who has the strongest squad is performance in the league, which you have dismissed as "PR" and "spin" and people saying that our league performance has been good are "losers". Meanwhile, you assess Swansea and Wigan and Boro as being winners, despite none of them having a stronger squad than us and finishing mid table or worse. The ten year thing was brought up by you, and I was pointing out some of your examples were from more than ten years ago. Added to that you're now complaining that we might finish mid table this season which is fine for Swansea (winners) but not fine for us (losers). I doubt there is anything like the disgruntlement you speak off, as season tickets sales hit new heights. Seems like more people than you think are "losers" sucked in by PR and spin.

Chin up. In the next twenty years I'd say it is highly likely we won't see many better seasons than those two and absolutely certain we'll see lots of seasons worse, or much worse, than that. So that will be fifty odd years of nothing bearing any fruit. Try and enjoy it anyway.

Just the kind of article I don't want to read. Cue the Les Reed video interview.

I would suggest you have yet another fruitless season ahead then, exactly the same as every single SFC season for the last forty years. Personally I think the last few seasons have been great.

"Just nine million more". I love this forum.

None of this makes any sense. If all you want us us to do is win a cup like Wigan why are you moaning about investment in the squad? Wigan's team was a bag of sh it. Leicester (more than ten years ago), Pompey, Middlesborough (also more than ten years ago) and Swansea all won their cups alongside middling finishes in the table around eighth/ninth. Wigan won the cup and went down. We're pretty established in that area in the table and perfectly capable of stumbling across the luck of the draw and good fortune across the handful of matches required to win the FA Cup without really doing anything particularly different to now. Unless you are seriously suggesting that Swansea City and Wigan had some overarching vision and determination during the summer before they won the cup, that they went out and ambitiously signed players specifically with the determined ambition of winning a cup? Is that what you actually believe happened? There's nothing to suggest we aren't trying to win the cups, this season (a failure, in your eyes) actually saw us qualify for another cup and gain a bye in the League Cup, so everything is perfectly placed for us to achieve what Wigan Athletic did. It's odd you are combining chest-beating posturing about not being a loser with arse-aching jealousy that we're not as good as Swansea beating Bradford City at Wembley.

You'll never upset me sweetheart but you've been banned plenty of times for, well, getting upset. I'm just going to sit and watch.

I'm running a book on which day this week Glasgow will be banned.

We've got no chance again Stoke and their level three mega wage bill.

How long does it take you to eat through a six pack of standard size Mint Aero bars?

Still is. My position is entirely consistent and the post I replied to was an example of the precise point my pi sstaking was making all that time ago: league places don't deliver the satisfaction a cup win can. It's almost like I'm never wrong, ain't it?

It's like that film.

Finishing seventh, then sixth isn't bearing fruit? Christ almighty. And I wouldn't accept that not winning a cup is the root of fans frustrations. The League and FA Cups have been merrily written off by the types you mention on here as a Mickey Mouse waste of time.

Does naming yourself after a Ninja Turtle qualify as "pretentious" these days? My my.

Rubbish old level 4 Saints - wage bill £80m, 9th in League Dynamic ambitious level 3 Stoke City - wage bill £67m, 16th in League. To year end May 2015, latest available data.

He loves his list, he does.

More drivel. I question the club plenty on here, and have done this season. Your accusation cannot just "apply to me" because it only makes sense if you can demonstrate exactly when the club have "dumped" in anyone's "mouth". I can see the point you are trying to make - I'll defend the club whatever - but the dumping in the mouth thing suggests that I am defending a corrupt, useless regime of total failure. The only thing that is very, very clear from your comments on this thread is just how much you despise the success of the last couple of years. You can see on every sour-faced petulent post you have made on the management on this club, who, far from "dumping" in anyone's "mouth" has delivered almost unprecedented success over the last few years. The fact you have to make out we are all living through some supporters hell where we're being dumped in the mouth which only I am blindly defending is beyond pathetic.

Scored a MOTD goal of the season if I remember correctly. Vs. Wimbledon I think.

I find it difficult to particularly care whether or not we get a few million quid if Mane is sold to Real Madrid in three years time. In fact I'd say I couldn't give a monkeys, being that were not some skint Championship club any more. But some people have got their hopes and who am I to quash them?

A lesson in sarcasm, tell me more.

Can you find any fans on here saying we don't need any reinforcements then? Off you go.

Strange you think that really. I'd say all fans and the management of the club would disagree with you. Still, all about opinions.

I think the club are definitely doing this. Also, they're poisoning the water supply near several local primary schools.