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You're guaranteed a cup ticket if it's at St Marys if you have a ST. What part of what I said wasn't accurate?

I definitely remember getting an FA Cup final and semi final ticket on the back of my ST. I'm not sure what cup games you miss out on?

You clearly have some sort of mental block when it comes to this. There are plenty of Saints fans with a purchase history that will want Man Utd tickets - the club are rewarding their loyalty. Your mate obviously has little loyalty so is no rewarded with the chance to get a ticket. It's not rocket science. As a ST holder you already get a discount, first dibs on cup games and away tickets, plus don't have to bother trying to phone up and get tickets every 2 weeks - that's more than enough incentive.

Leibherr could still bankroll us if she wanted, there are a million ways around those rules - if not Man City and Chelsea are ****ed.

The club are not out of sync, they, like the majority of Saints supporters, don't got a toss wether your plastic/manc mate goes to the game or not. They would rather a saints fan with a purchase history went. The policy makes sense because it rewards the loyalty of the fans that turn up to the less glamorous games and it encourages plastics like your mate to get off their ass and buy a ticket for lesser games instead of just phoning a mate with a ST when Man Utd come to town.

You could do that for your plastic mate as well if you wanted. I don't see the issue.

It's one ticket per qualifying customer number, no one can buy tickets for multiple guests.

I'd take it, can't see us getting a better offer.

Excellent! It's funny because it's true.

But fans who have been to 4 or more home games are supporting the club more than whoever you are buying the ticket for. Like you say - loyalty needs rewarding - your mate should think about that if he wants to watch Man Utd.

If someone chooses to live miles away that is their problem, I still think someone who has been to 4+ games deserves a ticket more than someone who has been to none, regardless of who they know. That said, it would be a nice idea to give supporters groups from abroad priority as well, purely because of their situation - it should be nothing to do with who they know.

The club have got it right, better off having casual Saints fans have the tickets over w*nker plastic Mancs who just happen to know a ST holder.

Yeah, like the link on there showing how humans are not effecting the climate its due to solar activity - their graph conveniently doesn't go further than 1998 so it doesn't show the fact that the last decade was the warmest ever recorded whilst solar activity at very low levels.

That article is spot on IMO.

If this guy on PPRUNE is to be believed I wouldn't hold out too much hope in it being found: Quote: "The hunt for the missing Malaysia Airlines plane has shifted below the surface, with the "towed pinger locator" deployed on Friday to search for the black box before its batteries expire." I wish them luck with that. From experience on the SAA295 'Helderberg' job I know that they've got a sub-minimal chance of finding that pinger in the next week or two. This wreck will be found acoustically, that's almost for sure, but it'll be by low frequency (100kHz or better) side-scan sonar --- or perhaps by pp-magnetometer... Almost certainly not by a couple of pinger locators and most certainly not by a fleet of photogenic aeroplanes sent on a photo-opportunity in a show-biz charade to assuage the PR efforts of three politicians and to satiate half a hundred rolling-news networks on telly. A comparison with the Helderberg job is quite informative, mostly for its differences rather than its similarities. The water depth was broadly similar, circa four and a half Klicks if I remember correctly in that case. We never found the pinger(s). Not acoustically, anyway. After the thirty days plus ten percent we gave up dragging pinger locators around the hydrospace of the survey ground. We had a list of the co-ords of hundreds of false positives because we were under orders from bozos ashore to crank the receiver gain up the the max, but nothing of any use. We did eventually find the CVR, replete with dead pinger, but that was more or less by accident when picking up a piece of wreckage with which it was entangled. That thing of quasi-accidental discovery of the recorders is actually quite common. Same thing happened with Valujet in the swamp and yet again with TWA800. In both of those cases the {insert colo(u)r here} boxes were found when someone trod on them. We never did find the SAA295 FDR, despite the fact that it had been affixed to the aircraft immediately adjacent to the CVR. Hell, they never found the recorders from the two Boeings in lower Manhattan -- and that was a case where they knew to within ten metres or better the very exact three dimensional co-ordinates of the impact points and they had reps from Boeing subbies searching every scoopful of debris for the thick end of a year. We had the same problem, in the case of SAA295, of people ashore repeatedly switching the target area(s) as is being experienced by the poor sods at the sharp end of the MH370 search. We dreaded the hour after the end of the morning 'prayer meeting' conference calls because we knew that someone ashore would get his pencil out and make up a new box, usually in a place which could not be reconciled with any of the previous ones. Out of earshot of the shadowy civilian guy from Virginia who was leading the search from below and behind, we used to refer to those boxes as "your target for tonight". Same thing is happening with MH370. If such a bet were enforceable, and if I could find any mugs foolish enough to be a counter-party to the bet, I'd happily and profitably give odds of 100:1 against them finding the pinger with a pinger locator. They've got, at most, a couple of weeks, with only a couple of ships, neither of which (incredibly), is simultaneously towing a 100 kHz side-scan sonar. Even with vane depressors and drag reducing devices such as Hairy Fairy vortex interruptors on the lower quarter of the tow-cable, they'll be lucky to make much more than three or four knots of waterspeed. The end of line turnarounds are an absolute *****. In 87/88 we quit after doing a thousand square miles and we had the twin advantages of knowing quite accurately where the aircraft stoofed in and we had our tools in the water (titter ye not in the cheap seats!) at the locus within a week of the crash. These poor sods have none of those advantages and they are being led by an Air Chief Marshal who has reversed seamanship and placed the surface ships at the disposal and in the service of the air fleet instead of the other way around. This evening, by any timezone, we enter the fourth week of the search and they haven't found so much as a satay stick from that aeroplane. If anybody has learned anything from the AF447 fiasco, then surely they must have learned that becoming fixated on theoretical back calculations of the impact point from subsequently discovered patches of identified and confirmed flotsam can lead to unwise people becoming target fixated on wrong locations. With Helderberg we had two major advantages. One was that the flight deck crew had been aviating;navigating;communicating right up until very few (less than five) minutes before impact and had been giving copious amounts of positional and intention information to ATC. Very different to MH370. The other massive advantage we had was that the first confirmed patch of flotsam from the wreck was found, and its co-ordinates measured, just 12 hours after impact. The second patch was located just 12 hours after that. Given the non-linearity of the mathematics of oceanic dispersal, any positional information from that elusive MAS satay stick, even if found during the fourth rather than fifth week, is likely to confuse rather than clarify the impact location. It'll tell you that the wreck lies in the SouthEastern quadrant of the Indian Ocean and not at some fairytale Dawson Field in one of the 'stans, but we pretty much know that anyway. The ugly truth, quite certainly unpalatable to the two prime ministers and 230 sets of bereaved relatives, is that the best chance of finding the wreckage and a few fragments of human remains lies in a very long hard slog with side-scan sonar. It's a search which is likely to take very large fractions of a year or, more likely, multiple years. Enthusiasm for funding such a prolonged and open-ended search will surely dry up, as it always does, when the bills start flowing in and become overdue for payment.

Even if he's only out for a few weeks it will have killed his chances of going to the World Cup, his only chance was if he carried on his fine form. So sad to see, just hope it's not too serious.

We are comfortably mid-table with an exciting squad packed with talented young English players, and we are owned by a multi bilionaire - yeah, I'm sh!tting myself. Seriously, if you are worried when we are in this position you might as well give up being a Saints fan because it won't ever get much better.

No reason why not, just needs a bit of common sense applying.

Has to be our worst signing ever, by a mile.

Marsden, Richards, kakhoul, Dodd, pahars, Hurst?, Oakley, bridge, Ripely, Hiley?, beattie, p jones, Davies, Claus, Gray, d jones, Some non-descript Norwegian, Hughes,, Boa Morte, x, Benali. Front: x, ***t, cowens.

That argument is a complete cop out, it's nonsense like that which makes me hate politicians. Wether it is before the event or after it is irrelevant, we still havn't had a say.

I can see support for UKIP growing and growing to be honest. Many of the issues people face everyday such as downward pressure on wages, lack of housing, difficulty in getting your kid into your chosen school, pressure on services and youth unemployment make the open door immigration policy seem barmy.

I lost count of the amount of times Clegg resorted to slating Farage and UKIP instead of dealing with the question. They were supposed to be debating the EU, what the hell has Farage's opinion on Putin got to do with anything?

Farage is wiping the floor with him.

Exactly, why do you think he wanted to come out and tell us what a difficult financial position the club are in?