Micky

This. As a civie we have been doing this in my company for the last 18 months at least - all it means is that we slash the quality and the product that we deliver to the customer is crap. Who gives a sh it. For HM Forces it means more operational tours, less effective equipment, more urgency to get the job finished, more soldiers being killed. Who gives a sh it.

I really dont think that you can totally blame the mods or admins for the (percieved) decline of the site, they are only reacting to peoples complaints. Therefore the buck stops a, with the poster and b, the reader. If we are going to get so wound up about what somebody might post on a forum, which lets face it, is read by 2 - 300 regulars - then we have some sad contributors. Yes there has to be rules - and no, we dont want the place decending into farce. Simply put - this place just needs a good dose of 'common sence'. There is little doubt that this forum is less interesting and appealing than it was a couple of years ago, and recent events have done nothing to enhance it's readability or credibility - but as I said before - lets not blame the mods. Next time you feel offended by somebodys post, or get into a hissy fit slagging match with a fellow poster - go take a chill pill and sleep on it for a night instead of pressing the 'report post' button. Perhaps once you have cooled off you will then appreciate what it is - an internet forum - nothing else.

Looks like a window cleaners dream...! Also - just think of all the 'back seat drivers', they would have a field day. At the moment you cant see naff all so if the driver prangs it you aint got a clue what happened. But with this, I can just see Ethel and Mable givin' it 'watch out for that one over there' and 'no so fast young man - you won't get there any faster you know'...!!!!!

Just flicked through the whole list - there is money in Wycombe, Southend, Bristol, Elgin, Ross County and Walsall. Strangely, not a single mention of our near neighbours down the road - thought those Ruskies were loaded...!!!

Don't think it means a lot to be honest Nick. It states that the Leibherr family fortune is around 3bn, and then explains his own Mali group, of which we have no idea of it's wealth. Irrespective of any figures anyway - you could have the richest owner in the world, but if they are not willing to give the club the money then it means nothing. Yes - I said 'give' - 'invest' is probably not the correct word to use in the current climate.

Gary Speed..?

Creed

All togeather now..... [video=youtube;jUX-SgwWNzY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUX-SgwWNzY&feature=fvwrel

You'll be fine when it get rammed up your ass then wont you....!!! No, no, no, no instruments or bands - thank you.

Funniest - definately Deppo (whose 'crown' is now vacant). Most Annoying - don't know. I'm not 'copping out', it's just that I tend to 'scroll on by' if a poster annoys me and not take too much notice. At the moment - Hypo, purely for his stance on Deppo.

With all due respect Hypo - I can't be assed to reply, but see jawillwills post 334 - I think it probably sums it up. Edit: Oh right - you already have. Guess that didn't work either.... sigh.

Nahh - Kevin Davies did, Uwe got the 2nd and the 3rd...! Edit: Actually technically speaking Davies got the 5th and Rosler the 6th and 7th - we were 4 nil down at that point.... ffs...!!

Pancake

It is both. He broke the rules - a ban is warranted, simple. Life ban - draconian - it's an internet message board ffs. Ban him til the start of the season and get him back on here - this board needs Deppo(s).

Wildern - pre '73. Used to be so 'ard the pupils took the register to make sure the teachers had showed up.

Guy, over fifty, love music, bought up on (influenced by), Elvis, Beatles, Stones, Manfred Mann, Slade, ELO, Clapton, Sabbath, Floyd, Eagles. Basic perception of todays music is that it generally sux. Have no time for the so called 'talent' that is X Factor or BGT. Women who take their clothes off or exploit their sexuality in order to sell music p i s s me off. If you can sing, sing. If I wanted to see a naked lady I would've visited a strip joint. Where are all the Alison Moyets / Lisa Stansfields of the female music scene? Me and music, intermediate guitar player - Yamaha FG730S acoustic, Epiphone Les Paul Custom Plus and Squire Fender Telecaster (signed by Gordon Haskell (google him if you don't know)), Marshall MG30 DFX practice amp with Digitech GNX 3 guitar processer. There's lots of crap about today musically, but it was the same in my day as well (Boney fukin M...!). Gotta say though - really love James Morrison, took his music to the streets and did it the hard way. Voice to absolutely die for - real class, seems a top bloke as well. Thats my 10p's worth in a nutshell - could chew the fat all day about music - but the subject is just so vast, got to do some work today!

He is right though, apparently it is only a matter of time before we build (yet another) new stadum...

Post 106 is more worrying - looks like we are going down the pan fast.

Deppo. Just recently Deppo has p i s sed me off a little – so I just scrolled on past. Saw his avatar coming a mile off and just ignored it. Who knows though, perhaps that is just me – grumpy old man, wrong side of fifty just wanting to read the important bits. In the past, said poster, has made me raise a wry smile, smirk, chuckle, laugh out loud, bellow, and choke on my carrot cake. (T w a t). Deppos input is rarely safe – personally I think he knows it and does weigh it up before posting – sometimes perhaps he gets it wrong, but that is what makes him interesting. He is the guy that tries to make light of the situation, normally with a ‘throw away’ – problem is, some take it far too seriously. I should also point out as well – that although many of his posts were loaded with sarcasm, many also carried a very valid (if sometimes alternative) viewpoint, perhaps for some this was just a little too subtle. I have no doubt that he p i s sed a few off, as I said, I had tired of him recently – but there is absolutely no way I would have kicked him out. I know that the £5.0 subscription fee is knack all in real terms, but Deppo is worth at least a quid of that annual subscription. When you consider all the other posters and services provided by this forum – what I’m saying is that Deppo is (was) ‘Box Office’. I’m pretty sure that I would have gone back to reading, enjoying and laughing at Deppo – I always thought that he could say an awful lot with not many words – quite clever really. As to the policing of the forum, that’s up to the guys that run this site. There is no way I would say a bad word about them, they do a great job and we are the benefactors of their efforts. That said – they have got this (badly, in my opinion) wrong. Why anybody would be intimidated enough to make any sort of serious complaint against a poster for the general input that is contained on most threads is beyond me. Why would you get so wound up about it – scroll on by. I recently left neutral feedback for an Ebay seller and he threatened to sue me for libel. It left me feeling intimidated for a while, but I laughed and moved on – not heard from him since. And so Deppo is banned, banned for life, never, ever to return – and who is the loser here. I am, and all those others here who support him. I come to read certain threads, certain opinion, and yes, certain sarcasm too. I come to be entertained by the ‘crowd’ that is in tonight – hopefully Deppo, Turkish, Benjii, TDD and the rest of the crowd will be there. Because if they are there, then the forum experience will be interesting, appealing, aggressive, dangerous and worthwhile. At the risk of offending anyone – I will sign off with what I believe could've been a Deppoism. Murderers and rapists don’t get locked up for life – why should Deppo?

Normally a woman on an organ would probably appeal somewhat - but jesus, how bad was she.... and she was in the final...!! Total bollux.

We are all amateurs here - you only have to read this thread to come to that conclusion.

To be honest, long term is the only way to build and sustain a football club these days unless of course you get the sugar daddy of all daddies...! Look at Manure, they didn't become great over night - took a lot of time and investment, remember 'boring, boring Arsenal', never thought I'd enjoy watching them...! Problem is though - that everybody wants success right now. It all depends how long an owner is willing to wait and how much they are willing to 'invest' - we have 3 years to get to the premiership - will be interesting to see what happens if we don't make it. But at least our 5 year plan has some realism about it, will your new owners have similar expectations, or will they want it now? As for the 6 points - thats not greed - that's just realistic.

Just googled Antonav's name, and he is described as a business genius (only young as well, 35ish???) in one article and a money launderer in another (although it also states that he was cleared of the latter accusations) - so you'll probably find it's somewhere in between I guess. Most successful business people probably have a few skelatons here and there - so could go either way. As for personal wealth, one article quoted 200m which is hardly mind blowing in football terms, but better than an owner who wants to keep his wallet firmly in his pocket. I think that you had better hope that he sees this as a long term project, because with your current infrastructure it is very difficult to see how the business is going to show a profit, either short or medium term. Strange quote on twitter saying that the new owners would not be making any announcement for a couple of weeks yet - perhaps they are looking to make sweeping changes to the management, staff and ground. Either way, whatever happens, I would just like to thank you for the 6 points.

Have to say that I agree with some of the points you raise, a couple of serious questions for you: Are you now happy with your new owners, do you know anything of their background? What level of investment, if any, do you think they will be bringing to the club? Thanks.

I think you are missing the point - we can sit here and take the **** all we want, but come next season if we don't have the bragging rights it will mean nothing. Real rivalry is played out by the players on the pitch not by a bunch of chest beating cyborwarriers on a message board.