SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 Of financialy well off clubs!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 means fuk all in league 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtonesfc Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 means fuk all in league 1 Means we`re top in league 1! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintjersey Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 Aren't we meant to be about seventh in the whole of England? Would really like to know where we stand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 Unless he is going to put all his personal wealth into the club then I dont think it matters does it. I suppose as for rich owners we must be 5th or 6th at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted by Jules in another thread: 1. Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed al Nahyan (Manchester City) 15 billion 2. Lakshmi Mittal and family (QPR) 12.5 billion 3. Roman Abramovich (Chelsea) 7 billion 4. Joe Lewis (Tottenham Hotspur) 2.5 billion 5. Bernie and Slavica Ecclestone (Queen's Park Rangers) 2.4 billion 6. Stanley Kroenke (Arsenal) 2.24 billion 7. Alisher Usmanov (Arsenal) 1.5 billion =8. Lord Grantchester and the Moores family (Everton) 1.2 billion =8. Dermot Desmond (Celtic) 1.2 billion =10. Lord Ashcroft (Watford) 1.1 billion =10. Malcolm Glazer and family (Manchester United) 1.1 billion I found it here http://www.shanghaidaily.com/sp/arti...cle_387235.htm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 8 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 8 July, 2009 Well papers/pundits seem to gage this on an owners personal wealth, not what they put in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPY Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 So we'd be 5th (ish). Ich liebe die Schweiz, Ich liebe Markus, Ich liebe das Rot und Weiss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 Posted by Jules in another thread: those figures would be £ right? or $? Let's remember that many of the figures re our owner's wealth are often in euros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 those figures would be £ right? or $? Let's remember that many of the figures re our owner's wealth are often in euros They are in £'s, and we now officially have the 4th Richest Owner in British Football (can't believe I am even typing this) with a personal wealth of £2.7 Billion!!! YeeeeeHaaaaaa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 So we'd be 5th (ish). Ich liebe die Schweiz, Ich liebe Markus, Ich liebe das Rot und Weiss. I thought Mittal owned most of QPR. He is or was richer than any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 How many owners do QPR have? Are they really 2nd and 5th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 They are in £'s, and we now officially have the 4th Richest Owner in British Football (can't believe I am even typing this) with a personal wealth of £2.7 Billion!!! YeeeeeHaaaaaa! gulp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eire Saint Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 So it's: 1. Man City (15 billion) 2. QPR (14.9 billion) 3. Chelsea (7 billion) 4. Arsenal (3.74 billion) 5. Saints (2.7 billion) That sounds good to me! Does this mean we'll be able to hold onto our academy players from now on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 How many owners do QPR have? Are they really 2nd and 5th? Oh Christ, you're right. Them and Arsenal are on twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickfinks Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 So it's: 1. Man City (15 billion) 2. QPR (14.9 billion) 3. Chelsea (7 billion) 4. Arsenal (3.74 billion) 5. Saints (2.7 billion) That sounds good to me! Does this mean we'll be able to hold onto our academy players from now on? You would hope so wouldnt you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 it does not matter if we are top if we dont see a penny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 So it's: 1. Man City (15 billion) 2. QPR (14.9 billion) 3. Chelsea (7 billion) 4. Arsenal (3.74 billion) 5. Saints (2.7 billion) That sounds good to me! Does this mean we'll be able to hold onto our academy players from now on? It still hasn't quite sunk in hahaha, this is great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 it does not matter if we are top if we dont see a penny Don't be such a bucket of cold water. Relax, let everyone have their afternoon/evening of fun. After all, we have had what seems like years of misery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasiak-9- Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 Don't be such a bucket of cold water. Relax, let everyone have their afternoon/evening of fun. After all, we have had what seems like years of misery. meh that applies to basically every single club that has a sugar-daddy take it over I mean by that rationale you may as well **** on the signing of a great new player by simply saying that he might not play all that well in the end. The £30 million debt is gone - and whilst this guys in charge we're highly unlikely to fall into financial problems again and have money to burn on players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasiak-9- Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 meh that applies to basically every single club that has a sugar-daddy take it over I mean by that rationale you may as well **** on the signing of a great new player by simply saying that he might not play all that well in the end. The £30 million debt is gone - and whilst this guys in charge we're highly unlikely to fall into financial problems again and have money to burn on players. sorry i meant to quote the delldays ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncoboy Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 Where ever we are The best thing is hopefully we have a long term future safe from administration and are no longer a joke team. We can work our way back over time and not have to sell ever decent player we have to fund debt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 2. Lakshmi Mittal and family (QPR) 12.5 billion Add £2b for Bernie and £200m for Flav although Bernies divorce might have cost him something. In reality, having rich owners only means security, not having a rich club and splashing out on multi million pound transfers every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 According to this, we are 4th!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/2009/01/07/football-rich-list-roman-abramovich-knocked-off-top-spot-by-manchester-city-owner-115875-21021465/ Rich List Top 20 1 Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan (Man City) £15billion 2 Lakshmi Mittal and family (QPR) £12.5bn 3 Roman Abramovich (Chelsea) £7bn 4 Joe Lewis (Tottenham) £2.5bn 5 Bernie and Slavica Ecclestone (QPR) £2.4bn 6 Stanley Kroenke (Arsenal) £2.245bn 7 Alisher Usmanov (Arsenal) £1.5bn 8= Lord Grantchester & the Moores Family (Everton) £1.2bn 8= Dermot Desmond (Celtic) £1.2bn 10= Lord Ashcroft (Watford) £1.1bn 10= Malcolm Glazer and family (Man Utd) £1.1bn 12 Simon Keswick (Cheltenham) £966m 13 Trevor Hemmings (Preston) £900m 14 Mike Ashley (Newcastle) £800m 15 Randy Lerner (Aston Villa) £750m 16 Tom Hicks (Liverpool) £700m 17 The Walker Family (Blackburn) £660m 18 Mohammed Al Fayed (Fulham) £650m 19 Sir David Murray (Rangers) £600m 20 Steve Morgan (Wolves) £400m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 When you look at that list and see who has supposed less wealth than Markus Liebherr it sends a shiver up my spine. I am afraid i might wake up from this euphoria and suddenly realise we are still in the midst of the nightmare that we have had to put up with these last few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 We are now the 5th richest club in England. Time to get those £20 notes out to wave at the away fans as we storm up the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 I keep thinking this is Saints this doesn't happen! I'm really worried its April 1st or something like I'm going to wake up and its all a dream! But deep down I know its real! **** me I'm happy as a pig in ****! COYRAWM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whizzpop Posted 8 July, 2009 Share Posted 8 July, 2009 When you look at the rich table, im amazed to see Watford and Cheltenham in there...perhaps this tells us that you can have rich owners and they may just sit back and keep the club stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY Saint Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Erm, perhaps I've had a couple of ****tails too many this evening but I doubt he'd be offering the entire 2.7 billion to us... we're not exactly a profitable club at this stage... I'll be happy if we're merely stable and can hold onto our players for a couple of years, get back into the CC at worst and build from there. Fecking delighted that one of the strongest links I have to home are still going to be alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Bloody marvellous isn't it? I don't know if he will throw cash at the club (he sounds like he'll take a methodical, patient approach), but he clearly moves us away from a "sell to survive" scenario. And...we're in League One FFS....I mean what's the average owner in League One worth? (at a total guess, £2.5m?....that's 0.1% of what Liebherr's worth....put another way, I think Liebherr is worth about 20-30 times all the other League One clubs combined!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny c Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 When you look at the rich table, im amazed to see Watford and Cheltenham in there...perhaps this tells us that you can have rich owners and they may just sit back and keep the club stable. Or not that stable in Watfords case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 all depends if his wealth is all tied up in assets doesnt it? not sure how they calculate it and doubt whether he has 2.5bn in cash in an account somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 We're joint 4th with Spurs according to todays echo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Swiss businessmen in general are renowned for being careful, methodical and sensible, if sometimes a little dour and lacking in creativity. Highly successful ones add those last two traits, but generally, assessing risks carefully and making good decisions at the right time with detailed long term planning, so I don't think we'll see a 50mil transfer budget this year! We will not have come out of admin "totally" debt free as some of the debts such as the Football Debts will be carried forward and will be paid from the newco (As part of the structure and FL rulings etc). That of course would have been factored into the whole plan and budget work so the nett result is that thge BUSINESS of being a football club is not threatened by huge interest payments unlike Arsenal (The Stadium) Man U & Liverpool (The leveraged finances) - Thank heavens. What I would expect to see is that we are now a massive opportunity, we aren't simply a "rich man's toy", we have the potential to become a strong and sustainable business, we do not need billions, we just need the RIGHT amount of money at the RIGHT times. To have made SO much money Markus has a proven track record in successful decision making. I think we are in for a long and exciting ride, but I really do not expect to see us suddenly start paying PL level wages and transfer fees for League1 numpties. We can make a profit for him and we can make a capital profit for him and we CAN climb back up the League with the right leadership in place. Wisdom, and a proven track record - to me that is by FAR the most valuable asset he can bring to us now. The money just helps to know that WHEN we need to invest to get to "The Next Level" it will be there, unlike 2003.... (and of course to help ensure MVP's such as KD stayed!) Oh happy days, time to do some work for a change! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Good job someone estimated his personal fortune at €3b then. Is there anybody confident of where that figure has come from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Good job someone estimated his personal fortune at €3b then. Is there anybody confident of where that figure has come from. My job involves knowing how much wealthy people are worth - and Ive no idea! Very little information is available about ML. I imagine the £2.5bn is probably made up / wild guesstimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Surely his personal wealth has f-all to do with the clubs net worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 The really important thing is that we can now generate substantial income that all goes to the club, rather than debt, mortgage, and interest payments and massively inflated wages. This new ownership is generating a confidence and pride that should lead to large crowds and increased season ticket sales. Success will breed success and at last we can compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkins Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Where is the evidence that is he a billionaire btw? And worth 2.5billion? Obviously his Mali Group has made some decent turn over but has anyone got some facts about this? Apart from the reports which all seemed to have copied each other, can we actually prove he's a billionaire? His family is rich and I cant imagine he sold his shares back to them on the cheap but I'd like to see some actual proof of his worth if possible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 9 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Markus gave back his company shares, and from what i'm told still retains a family share in Liebherr-International AG. SFC was paid for from his own personel wealth, and not from any of his company funds! You dont do that unless you have some serious money behind you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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