Tac-tics Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 (edited) Just looking at who Norwich have signed, Saints really need to pull their socks up, sod the bosman market,theres plenty of targets who Saints should be signing up and missing out on. Grant Holt, Stephen Hughes,Simon Whaley,Rhoys Wiggins, Patrick Kisnorbo have all been signed by teams in our league. We are unbelieveabley weak, AP is wrong and should be snapping up players regardless if they have fee's, we need to hit the ground running, we're asking for big trouble.... edit: Pardew is'nt wrong, just concerned we have'nt been as strong in the market. Edited 24 July, 2009 by Tac-tics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Just looking at who Norwich have signed, Saints really need to pull their socks up, sod the bosman market,theres plenty of targets who Saints should be signing up and missing out on. Grant Holt, Stephen Hughes,Simon Whaley,Rhoys Wiggins, Patrick Kisnorbo have all been signed by teams in our league. We are unbelieveabley weak, AP is wrong and should be snapping up players regardless if they have fee's, we need to hit the ground running, we're asking for big trouble.... Whaley, Kisnorbo and Hughes were free. Wiggins was a 'nominal fee'. Don't blame AP for missing out on these targets, blame those morons at Pinnacle who killed our pre-season preparations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Just looking at who Norwich have signed, Saints really need to pull their socks up, sod the bosman market,theres plenty of targets who Saints should be signing up and missing out on. Grant Holt, Stephen Hughes,Simon Whaley,Rhoys Wiggins, Patrick Kisnorbo have all been signed by teams in our league. We are unbelieveabley weak, AP is wrong and should be snapping up players regardless if they have fee's, we need to hit the ground running, we're asking for big trouble.... doesn't take long does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthamSteve Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O_RLY Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Your wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 24 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Ok a bit harsh and maybe he is'nt wrong but there are players we NEED from other clubs who we should make a priority e,g Rickie Lambert a big goalscoring lump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 24 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Your wrong. Telling me this squad is strong enough then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Whaley, Kisnorbo and Hughes were free. Wiggins was a 'nominal fee'. Don't blame AP for missing out on these targets, blame those morons at Pinnacle who killed our pre-season preparations. My thoughts exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Ok a bit harsh and maybe he is'nt wrong but there are players we NEED from other clubs who we should make a priority e,g Rickie Lambert a big goalscoring lump I'd agree with Lambert if we weren't keeping stern. But as we have Stern (by the looks of it) then our priority must be a pacey striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Come on guys. Pardew isn't going to broadcast that he's got money to burn. Just like Harry often does, he says he's going for frees and loans and then pounces and spends big. We'd be a sitting target if we showed too much we're going to spend. We'll sign and sign big before the transfer window closes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 24 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 July, 2009 I'd agree with Lambert if we weren't keeping stern. But as we have Stern (by the looks of it) then our priority must be a pacey striker. Andy Bishop?Sodje in the conference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doughnutman Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Telling me this squad is strong enough then? Yes, as its holding the other 23 teams up!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waggy Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Calm down dear, calm down that isn't a real football club and this is an advert for esure... no sorry wrong company..... Norwich Union.. no Aviva....... and I'm not Michael Winner; anyway wtf CALM DOWN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Your wrong. O RLY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the scud Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Poor man AP has only been in job since Monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 (edited) Poor man AP has only been in job since Monday That long - we should have won the league by now! Edited 24 July, 2009 by Toadhall Saint Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 that long - we should have one the league by now! we should've signed Henry! We are in league one afterall:d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Andy Bishop?Sodje in the conference Can't say i've seen much of him tbh. Who's he with at the mo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 we should've signed Henry! We are in league one afterall:d What? We haven't, now I'm thinking Pardew out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 24 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 July, 2009 I am shocked no-one else thinks its worrying, eh what do I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 We'll sign and sign big before the transfer window closes. cheers for the inside info.... How big is 'big'? Ta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 cheers for the inside info.... How big is 'big'? Ta Burger King will sponsor us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 cheers for the inside info.... How big is 'big'? Ta Murty is quite big... On a serious note the lack of patience shown by many fans is truly scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 24 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Murty is quite big... On a serious note the lack of patience shown by many fans is truly scary. Let me put it to you. While I was doing my Uefa 'B' Licence there was a fair few coaches who would be recognised to a few on here. We also had a new League 2 manager come in and give us a lecturer, we also had 5 minutes with him. Being an ex-Saints(obvious?) player* I found a mutual ground to break the ice, we spoke about the Saints takeover and after and the fact he not slept since taking his new role,. due to agents ringing. His own opinion comming from another Manager is that Saints need to bring in quickly or they wont be ready, read from that what you will. I also appreciate that is his opinion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Murty is quite big... On a serious note the lack of patience shown by many fans is truly scary. Too true, God knows what will happen if we lose the first couple of games ? Some people seem to think that you can wave a magic wand and everything will be wonderful, I'm not sure if it's naiveity or just plain thick ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 24 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Am I really being to harsh in WANTING and EXPECTING a club like ours should be winning and off to a good start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 These things take time. As much as we love our club, Pardew has a hard sell with prospective players. Any players keen to take the "sub-zero challenge" will hopefully be worth the wait. And yes, Pinnacle were complete and utter wasters. Tony Lynam has about as much chance of being taken seriously in the future as Frank Spencer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 I am shocked no-one else thinks its worrying, eh what do I know It is worrying that we have a losing mentality and need an influx of experienced players to get rid of it. I like the sound of Alan Pardew, as he is emphasising the winning element all the time. He knows he has a tough test tomorrow, but it seems as he is talking of trying to win, that for once we will be giving it a go. I suspect this week he has been trying to motivate the players and get what he has, organised and stepping up to the plate. It seems next week could be moving week in the player market Tomorrow's team as selected will give us a reasonable clue to his thinking on which players are giving it a go and those that may well be on their way. It will also give us a clue on his preferred formation and how he sees it being played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Murty is quite big... On a serious note the lack of patience shown by many fans is truly scary. Lack of patience? On here? Some of us have been waiting nearly 3 years for this moment. Yours patience-wearing-a-bit-thin-ly, Trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Am I really being to harsh in WANTING and EXPECTING a club like ours should be winning and off to a good start? Absolutely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Am I really being to harsh in WANTING and EXPECTING a club like ours should be winning and off to a good start? I understand your concerns but I am sure AP does as well. What he tells us and what he is doing in the background are probably very different and I am sure he is making moves to strengthen the side. If us mortal fans realise that the team is weak I am damn sure he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 He has only been in the job since SUNDAY - give him a chance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Let me put it to you... While I was doing my Uefa 'B' Licence.. Oh please god no, not another one. Perhaps you and derry can swap stories about the virues of 4-4-2 on another forum....I have a 5 metre swiming badge, does that count? Everyone wants instance success and you and I are no different. The last 4 years or so have been enough to test anyones patience but it's only fair we give AP a chance. I'm also a little worried that he doesn't have his support staff in place and nor do we have the team / squad as yet but let's see how things stand in 14 days time. I'm sure there will be a lot of activity in the coming few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Originally Posted by S-Clarke Whaley, Kisnorbo and Hughes were free. Wiggins was a 'nominal fee'. Don't blame AP for missing out on these targets, blame those morons at Pinnacle who killed our pre-season preparations. My thoughts exactly. We could have even kept hold of DMG! But we are still the luckiest barstewards on the planet. We will just have to be patient and support the club as best we all can, but don't be surprised if we do struggle. If we keep ploughing money through the gates, it's not going to discourage Markus from adding to it. Originally Posted by Tac-tics I am shocked no-one else thinks its worrying, eh what do I know :wink: We all know the strength of our current squad, but just happy to have one. If it takes longer, it takes longer but at least we have some hope for the future now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullumsull Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 'Real life' football is not like football manager... a lot has changed at the club over the summer so it understandably takes a few days for AP to assess things. Let's hope there are no signings for signings sake before the window shuts. We need players, true, but we don't need any more St'Juste signings to show 'intent' we need players that can do the job, hopefully for more than half a season! First let the poor guy pick up backroom staff to help him in training etc. Then if AP is here really for long term he will have to get himself settled in the area and keep his family happy as well Cautiously optimistic for the season myself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 ...... what do I know.... I think you have hit the nail on the head here. I trust AP over TT any day. Its not getting half dozen players in the first few days, its getting the RIGHT half dozen players in. I think he knows what he is doing, so just give him another week or so, eh? Plus the "panic panic buy buy buy" attitude tends to spend too much money on the wrong players. Let's just think a bit about what we need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Oh please god no, not another one. Perhaps you and derry can swap stories about the virues of 4-4-2 on another forum....I have a 5 metre swiming badge, does that count? Everyone wants instance success and you and I are no different. The last 4 years or so have been enough to test anyones patience but it's only fair we give AP a chance. I'm also a little worried that he doesn't have his support staff in place and nor do we have the team / squad as yet but let's see how things stand in 14 days time. I'm sure there will be a lot of activity in the coming few days. The fact anybody has taken and passed formal courses only helps with the understanding. It wasn't until I did it that I realised how much I didn't understand and how much more there was to learn. The courses are all about learning, demonstration and teaching. If you have the basic football skills you could give it a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Reality check for whom exactly? We all know its a weak team and we all know that we have lost loads of time waiting for a takeover while the other clubs got their houses in order. Anybody who doesn't realise that will have had their head up their arses for three months. So who is getting the reality check that you are kindly providing for us? We have some dark times ahead (in the immediate future) and may conceivably be stuck on minus points longer than we would like - but I for one am confident we can get to mid table safety this season so that we can make a strong push next season. Anything more than that (i.e play-offs) would be a minor miracle given where the team is at present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Pinnacle's empty posturing lost us 5+ vital weeks - can you imagine how much further ahead of the game we would be had Pardew and Markus Liebherr had been in charge since May? Pinnacle and those that backed them have got off lightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Am I really being to harsh in WANTING and EXPECTING a club like ours should be winning and off to a good start? Has the season started already? PS - well done for starting the first "REALITY CHECK WE'RE RUBBISH" thread of the new regime. Plenty more where that came from I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire Saint Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 The fact anybody has taken and passed formal courses only helps with the understanding. It wasn't until I did it that I realised how much I didn't understand and how much more there was to learn. The courses are all about learning, demonstration and teaching. If you have the basic football skills you could give it a go. Here, here. It is a fact known only to a few posters on here that I am a referee who is currently working at CCC level. I have tried to keep this out of the public arena because of the grief that we referee's get. However, it is about time that people understood that my qualification in refereeing has given me an insight into the game that most posters will not have. I understand where Derry and Tic-Tacs are coming from. I want it to be on record that I am well prepared to help AP out with any coaching. Maybe getting some of the youngsters to understand some of the rules and that kind of stuff. I can show the young uns how to take a throw on properly and that sort of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Let me put it to you. While I was doing my Uefa 'B' Licence there was a fair few coaches who would be recognised to a few on here. We also had a new League 2 manager come in and give us a lecturer, we also had 5 minutes with him. Being an ex-Saints(obvious?) player* I found a mutual ground to break the ice, we spoke about the Saints takeover and after and the fact he not slept since taking his new role,. due to agents ringing. His own opinion comming from another Manager is that Saints need to bring in quickly or they wont be ready, read from that what you will. I also appreciate that is his opinion! What part of the Uefa B course talked about a new manager buying as many players as humanly possible in his first week in the job, otherwise the subsequent season is a write off? "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing" and you are dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Reality check for whom exactly? We all know its a weak team and we all know that we have lost loads of time waiting for a takeover while the other clubs got their houses in order. Anybody who doesn't realise that will have had their head up their arses for three months. So who is getting the reality check that you are kindly providing for us? We have some dark times ahead (in the immediate future) and may conceivably be stuck on minus points longer than we would like - but I for one am confident we can get to mid table safety this season so that we can make a strong push next season. Anything more than that (i.e play-offs) would be a minor miracle given where the team is at present. EXACTLY! - The guy has only been in the job for a week - initially he probably just wants to see what quality he has in what positions and then he will start bringing in new faces. .... some people on here are absolutely unbelievable! (I will leave it for KP Turner to correct grammer and spelling!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Here, here. I want it to be on record that I am well prepared to help AP out with any coaching. Maybe getting some of the youngsters to understand some of the rules and that kind of stuff. I can show the young uns how to take a throw on properly and that sort of thing. If you can only teach them how to take corners and get to the byeline before crossing, you will be made in heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Am I really being to harsh in WANTING and EXPECTING a club like ours should be winning and off to a good start? Not at all....but I think you may have jumped the gun a little. Lets see if the situation is no better 2 weeks from today - then you may have a point but AP has had one week, there are two more before the season starts.......more to the point lets see what the squad looks like when the transfer window closes on 31 August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 ^^agrees/w everyone above that said give the guy a chance!! wtf? he should have signed a full squad by now in, what, 6 days??? f*cksake, he needs to assess who's here and what he needs to get in, theres no point him diving headfirst into the transfer market like an american survivalist panic-buying before the bomb hits. ps- Pardew out;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 EXACTLY! - The guy has only been in the job for a week - initially he probably just wants to see what quality he has in what positions and then he will start bringing in new faces. .... some people on here are absolutely unbelievable! (I will leave it for KP Turner to correct grammer and spelling!) Not too bad OoohTerry. Did your missus key it in for you under dictation? :-) I take it I am on my own tomorrow - i.e. you are off to Lords? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Those who stay calm when everybody else is panicking. They are the real leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Those who stay calm when everybody else is panicking. They are the real leaders. Who's panicking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 24 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 July, 2009 FFS the same typical posters. I believe the new regime and AP are the right guys, singing from the same hym sheet and have impressed me with they have said, all I am saying is I think we should be acting different regarding the transfer market, I was just earmarking my view and if anyone shared it. Personally I think AP will get it right, just not this season, we'll see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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