Thedelldays Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 Why the hell not...we could make a decent challenge IMO.. sod this "consolidate" lets aim as high as we can..IMO we could well have a good shout for the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 Is this the follow up to your 'Wotte will keep us up' thread of last year TDD..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 26 July, 2009 Is this the follow up to your 'Wotte will keep us up' thread of last year TDD..? no...not too sure what that has to do with it..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 We should indeed be aiming high, but we need the capability to back our ambitions up. I'd hate another repeat of last season with some people predicting our youth team would get automatically promoted. We need at least 6 players to be thinking about being near the top of this league. Ideally I'd want 10, but I appreciate we are pressed for time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewell Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 Pardew said the target has to be mid table by Christmas. I then expect us to strengthen in January and make a massive push for the play offs. Anything less will be a failed season for me. Pardew is a winner and I do not expect him to settle for consolidation and mid table obscurity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint dyer Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 i agree 100% if we get another 4 or 5 players in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 26 July, 2009 Pardew is a winner and I do not expect him to settle for consolidation and mid table obscurity. agree with this.. I hope and like to think we could and should be sat nicely in midtable by xmas and a player or two added in jan...who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 no...not too sure what that has to do with it..? Just thinking that it could come back to bite you on the arse later on in the season. TBH though, if we can get off to a flyer (bucking the trend there - I know), then there is no reason why we shouldn't aim high for the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 i say we just win as many games we can until xmas and then see where we are. Im sure this is what AP has been saying to the players. If we're 10th-12th at the end of January then yes we can start thinking about Play offs but there's every chance we could still be down around 18th. lets just enjoy the ride and get behind the team whatever position they are in! COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andover pedro Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 Has Stern John signed a new contract i notice he was offered one and he started yesterday fingers crossed he has signed. Mate of mine saw plenty of him at Bristol City last year and was dissapointed that he has gone as he felt he brought others into the game and was always enthusiastic unlike some they have had there before. Up the Saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 I think we need to set ourselves small challenges all season. First 5 games to get into positive points, 12 or so to get out of the bottom 4, 20ish to get to mid-table. If we manage to achieve that, then we can look at a further 10 games for top 10 and push in the final period to get into the play-offs and even automatic if that is still an option. The most important thing is to get out of the bottom 4 in the least amount of games because that gives us the platform from which to push on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 I think we need to set ourselves small challenges all season. First 5 games to get into positive points, 12 or so to get out of the bottom 4, 20ish to get to mid-table. If we manage to achieve that, then we can look at a further 10 games for top 10 and push in the final period to get into the play-offs and even automatic if that is still an option. The most important thing is to get out of the bottom 4 in the least amount of games because that gives us the platform from which to push on. I reckon this more or less exactly what AP is aiming for. Sounds like a good plan to me anyway:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewell Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 I think we need to set ourselves small challenges all season. First 5 games to get into positive points, 12 or so to get out of the bottom 4, 20ish to get to mid-table. If we manage to achieve that, then we can look at a further 10 games for top 10 and push in the final period to get into the play-offs and even automatic if that is still an option. The most important thing is to get out of the bottom 4 in the least amount of games because that gives us the platform from which to push on. This attitude makes perfect sense and is one I fully agree with. Pardon the cliché but let's take one game at a time and aim for -7 after Millwall at home on the 8th! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin C Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 As long as we don't put too much pressure on us and don't get on the teams back if we don't make the play offs this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Bizzle Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 Dulldays you are a boring spammer, stop starting **** and pointless threads in the main forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latheal Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 To be honest, I have no idea of the quality of this league. The fact that Leeds are still her 3 years later makes me think its not as easy as some have mentioned. There are some big clubs above us with a 10 point head start and there's not enough time for Pardew to get enough quality in before the end of the Transfer window (and buy this I mean buying players, not the Bosman's). Obviously I'd love it if we stormed up the league, I think its going to be a lot tougher than people are giving it credit for. Looking at the fixtue list does not give us a clue about the quality of our opposition. Most people had Doncaster being relegated last season from the Championship, mainly because of their name. The likes of Swindon, Bristol Rovers, Tranmere, Brighton, Oldham are not going to be easy games - when you add in the teams you would expect to be at the top (Norwich, Leeds, MK Dons, Millwall, S****horpe and Charlton) I would be amazed if we made the play-offs. Without the -10, yes, with it, its a hell of a challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 /\ S****horpe are in the CCC next season Anyway, yes we should definatly be aiming for the play offs this season imo. Leeds did it with minus 15 so why can't we? On paper we already have 1 of the best starting XI's in this league so with a couple more signings we should be aiming for the top. It will be a hard league to get out of but saying Leeds are still there after 3 years doesn't add up to much when you consider that Leicester, Sheff Wed, Nottm Forest & Man City all came straight back up within atleast 2 years. If we were to still be in league 1 in 3 seasons i think we'd all be extremley dissapointed to say the least! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 I think we need to set ourselves small challenges all season. First 5 games to get into positive points, 12 or so to get out of the bottom 4, 20ish to get to mid-table. If we manage to achieve that, then we can look at a further 10 games for top 10 and push in the final period to get into the play-offs and even automatic if that is still an option. The most important thing is to get out of the bottom 4 in the least amount of games because that gives us the platform from which to push on. You will be upsetting DD.......he dosen't like it when posters don't agree with his version of the future. For the record, that sounds like a good plan..... for Dulldays....I'd love it if we went up as Champions, but I'll leave it to AP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 AP has already said that "top 2 is the target" I however would prefer us to consolidate and if we stay up by 1 point I will be delighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 You will be upsetting DD.......he dosen't like it when posters don't agree with his version of the future. For the record, that sounds like a good plan..... for Dulldays....I'd love it if we went up as Champions, but I'll leave it to AP. why the name calling? if you cant offer anything positive to the thread, then go post on the muppet show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 I fully expect automatic promotion IF we keep SJ and GR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfredKo Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 Yes, absolutely. Leciester City is the role model we should learn from. They got Steven Howard, Dickov and Oakley. However they are the only proven players that they had last season, the rest were all unproven youngsters at that time. We have much more reconized proven players(Stern John, Kelvin Davis, Perry, Murty, Rasiak, etc) and our youngsters should be better than them(Lallana, Mills, L James, Mclaggan, Schnderlin) plus those league1/championship journey men(Harding, Thomas, Lee Holmes) We must be looking at winning every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildgoose Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 AP has already said that "top 2 is the target" I however would prefer us to consolidate and if we stay up by 1 point I will be delighted. Really? Are you saying you would prefer to consolidate even if the playoffs or top two can be done? Your posts usually make me smile with your sense of humour but you've got me confused on this one..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latheal Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 /\ S****horpe are in the CCC next season Anyway, yes we should definatly be aiming for the play offs this season imo. Leeds did it with minus 15 so why can't we? On paper we already have 1 of the best starting XI's in this league so with a couple more signings we should be aiming for the top. It will be a hard league to get out of but saying Leeds are still there after 3 years doesn't add up to much when you consider that Leicester, Sheff Wed, Nottm Forest & Man City all came straight back up within atleast 2 years. If we were to still be in league 1 in 3 seasons i think we'd all be extremley dissapointed to say the least! Told yea I didn't know much about League 1 re S****horpe. Point is, none of those teams you mentioned had -10. If Leicester had last season, they wouldn't have gone up automatically as the league finished. Leeds did start on a minus, and they are still there. I think 2 years is realistic and should be more than achievable but I just think the play offs this year are completely out of reach. If we do, Pardew deserves a massive bonus after inheriting a team that have looked so out of depth for the last two years, short on confidence and quality (at least in the middle of the park) and with no fight within them. First 5 games will show us how its going to be, and with Millwall first game and one of the better teams in this league, we'll have a much better idea how we are faring after it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 Really? Are you saying you would prefer to consolidate even if the playoffs or top two can be done? Your posts usually make me smile with your sense of humour but you've got me confused on this one..... Earlier in the week I was called nasty/hurtful names as I said that I expected us to compete for promotion this season. A number of posters namely John B and Gingeletiss are fortunate that there opinions mirror 99% of the SFC fan base - I now only post there opinions as they have made me realise that mine are useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torsaint Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 Be interesting to know how many times in last, say, 30 years we have exceeded 1.5 points a game. At 1.5 we would end up with 69 -10 = 59 points. Sounds about it to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 We should definitely being aiming for it - and I don't think it is an unreasonable aspiration bearing in mind Leeds made it to the Play-offs on -15 points. However, if it pans out that we don't look like getting there this term, we shouldn't start jumping up and down demanding changes be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 I look forward to the following : 1) Goals going in at my end of the stadium (Chapel end) ! 2) Winning home games ! 3) The wife not saying "I told you they would lose" ! If those 3 things come to pass then we might just make the play-offs ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 I've said it before on previous threads and I'll say it again. 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 IMO if we can take on and not drop many points against the top third and win a good proportion of the rest, then we could wipe out the ten points over the season and be in the mix at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 We can do it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 I've said it before on previous threads and I'll say it again. 1st If yesterdays performance wasn't a flash in the pan and with some quality additions to provide strength in depth, then promotion suddenly doesn't look out of the question. I am amazed that this team can play football like they did yesterday, I didn't think they had it in them. Usually confidence is built over a longer period than a week with the boss mainly on the phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildgoose Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 Earlier in the week I was called nasty/hurtful names as I said that I expected us to compete for promotion this season. A number of posters namely John B and Gingeletiss are fortunate that there opinions mirror 99% of the SFC fan base - I now only post there opinions as they have made me realise that mine are useless. Oh I see, you were being ironic.......well, I think you should just carry on being yourself! I wait for the little interjections, they brighten up the forum! Don't let 'em get to ya! Everyone's opinion counts...... By the way I originally come from the Bournemouth/Poole area myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildgoose Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 This attitude makes perfect sense and is one I fully agree with. Pardon the cliché but let's take one game at a time and aim for -7 after Millwall at home on the 8th! Yep +1 We'll see, but I'm more hopeful than I've been for a very very long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 I think the play-offs are a realistic ambition for this season - it will be tight, but do-able. Why shouldn't we? We have the basis of a good squad, a top manager and cash in the bank if we need to bolster the ranks in January Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 I can't see us making the play-offs unless we get enough points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 I can't see us making the play-offs unless we get enough points. Yeah that could be a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latheal Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 I can't see us making the play-offs unless we get enough points. That's the best comment today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildgoose Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 I can't see us making the play-offs unless we get enough points. Haha. That's profound! Thanks :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 I'll get £20 if we reach the play offs! Let's do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 26 July, 2009 I can't see us making the play-offs unless we get enough points. hit the nail on the head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vince Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 I'll get £20 if we reach the play offs! Let's do it! I was talking to a Boro supporter in my local last night and told him I thought we'd be good value for a play off place. He then said he thought we'd go up automatically. When I said I couldn't see that happening, he then offered me a £20 bet that we'd go up in the auto spots. I took it - that's the kind of bet I'd be delighted to lose and pay out on!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 I don't see any reason why getting at least 3 more wins and a draw more than the 7th placed team is unachievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowds Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 I can't see us making the play-offs unless we get enough points. your iq is below 100 isnt it.... i cant see me winning the lottery unless my numbers come up.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 your iq is below 100 isnt it.... i cant see me winning the lottery unless my numbers come up.... Yeah, that could be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 1 win and this sort of madness pops up. Currently, we are not good enough for the play-offs starting on -10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 I can't see us making the play-offs unless we get enough points. your iq is below 100 isnt it.... i cant see me winning the lottery unless my numbers come up....I think you've made it quite clear who the one with the low IQ is LMFAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 I think you've made it quite clear who the one with the low IQ is LMFAO I very nearly bit at that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 With the current squad, I can't see us getting near the top six. With a few additions, I'd say it's a possibility. I know we beat Hearts 3-0, but lets not get too ahead of ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 Be interesting to know how many times in last, say, 30 years we have exceeded 1.5 points a game. At 1.5 we would end up with 69 -10 = 59 points. Sounds about it to me. In the last 30 years we have not been down in div 3. I am hoping for an AP miracle but not expecting it. If we start reasonably well as has been said by so many of us then there is no reason why we shouldn't be going for a minimum of top 6. Doesn't mean we will necessatily get it but no harm trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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