Player Training Session

[Block 5]

Just thought I'd share the experience with you all......

 

We got to Staplewood just after 10am.

The session started with a warm up and then the usual routines that we've all seen pre-match a thousand times.

There was a fair bit of banter between the players, Neil 'Trots' Trottman was singled out for some stick because he kept running in the wrong direction.

It was all good natured and was indicative of a pretty good sense of camaraderie between the players.

I started to take some pictures but was soon told to stop by the security guard who was lurking around, keeping an eye on us. I'm not sure why we couldn't take pictures of the session; an official club photographer was taking pics and filming.

 

After 20 minutes or so, the squad split into 2 groups; Wally Downes took the defenders off whilst AP took the attackers off to the main pitch.

The sponsors were given a choice and I chose to watch AP.

 

AP started working on the edge of the box, with players receiving the ball, taking a touch and then shooting. All bog standard stuff. David Connolly looked particularly impressive and was without doubt the most accurate finisher.

 

AP then moved on to crosses, with Papa & Michail Antonio putting the crosses in from the right and Lee Holmes and Joseph Mills crossing from the left. Morgan and Mellis were receiving as were Lambert and Connolly.

Everyone swapped round a bit, Dan Harding was putting balls in too.

Jacob Mellis looked good and had some lovely touches but his shooting was tragic, with just about every ball hit sky high. At one point AP had a pop at Mellis. Antonio looked pretty useful.

 

It was all standard stuff. After 30 minutes the rest of the squad joined us on the main pitch and a game was organised against the youth team.

The first team was KD, Harding, Jaidi, Trots, Lloydie, Wotton sat in front of the back 4 with Morgan and Mellis ahead of him, Connolly was wide left and Papa wide right, with Lambert up front.

AP kept blowing the whistle and analysing the play. He was pointing out where he wanted players for each situation.

There was a fair bit of work done with our forwards pressuring defenders, with a lot of focus on Papa getting into their left back and putting him under pressure.

AP was very organised and communicative and knew exactly what he wanted. I was pretty impressed to be honest. He kept calling Ben Reeves 'Rod Stewart' which made me chuckle (Reeves has a bit of a dodgy haircut).

 

Now I have always been a critic of Paul Wotton but I think he has improved a hell of a lot under AP. He was very vocal today, with plenty of words for the players around him. He seems to suit the defensive midfielder role, and looked very comfortable just in front of the centre backs.

Communication was good all round, it's surprising what you don't hear at SMS. The noise of the crowd drowns out the players, and I always assumed they were fairly quiet: no way!

Papa still seems to have a language problem. I swear he didn't understand a word AP said to him. When they needed a message to get through, Jaidi would talk to him in French.

 

After today I assume that AP will play 4-5-1 on Saturday, with RL up front. Connolly played wide left and didn't get a look in at all. He looked lost. I would much rather see him play up front in a 4-4-2 with Lambert. Those two will score some goals together. I reckon he will start on the bench on Saturday.......

 

......But that depends on the injuries. There were two noticeable absentees from training. Adam Lallana and Dean Hammond. Both were there but didn't train at all. I'm not sure what's up with Ads, but Hammond has a very slight hamstring, so was being rested.

 

There were no goals in the match.

Afterwards there was some free kick practise for Mills, Holmes, Mellis, Harding and Antonio. Harding was the pick of the bunch.

 

We then all went to the dome. We saw the players' lounge. All rather nice. However I would have liked to have seen a 40 inch TV on the wall, a PS3 and a copy of FIFA 10.

Instead there was a ping pong table, a 32 inch TV, a cheapo XBOX 360 and a copy of FIFA 07: Gash!

 

We had sarnies, crisps and coffee in the computer room; this was obviously where AP would discuss match tactics. A large interactive white board and plenty of PCs dotted around.

There was a white board with the following legend written on it: "No one is blamed, we are all accountable".

 

The players started to trickle in and chat to their sponsors. I had to shoot off and meet the wife at the Mayflower at that point (besides, Gillett wasn't around for hugs and cuddles).

 

Zigsdad stayed around (was that you with the pony tail mate?) so I'm sure he will give you a full account of himself and how he got on with the players.

 

That's all I can remember for now, if anything else occurs to me I will post it in this thread.

 

Finally, I want to thank Steve Grant and all the admins for getting this together, and for all the other fans who chipped in.

I think this is a great idea and we should do it every season. Maybe we could sponsor more players if we have a bit more time.

Although next time when we vote, can we vote for players who might actually play!!!!!

[PaulSaint]

If they get hold of a copy of FIFA 05 (about a quid in CEX) then they can be Saints in the Prem?

[Kevtherev]

Just thought I'd share the experience with you all......

 

We got to Staplewood just after 10am.

The session started with a warm up and then the usual routines that we've all seen pre-match a thousand times.

There was a fair bit of banter between the players, Neil 'Trots' Trottman was singled out for some stick because he kept running in the wrong direction.

It was all good natured and was indicative of a pretty good sense of camaraderie between the players.

I started to take some pictures but was soon told to stop by the security guard who was lurking around, keeping an eye on us. I'm not sure why we couldn't take pictures of the session; an official club photographer was taking pics and filming.

 

After 20 minutes or so, the squad split into 2 groups; Wally Downes took the defenders off whilst AP took the attackers off to the main pitch.

The sponsors were given a choice and I chose to watch AP.

 

AP started working on the edge of the box, with players receiving the ball, taking a touch and then shooting. All bog standard stuff. David Connolly looked particularly impressive and was without doubt the most accurate finisher.

 

AP then moved on to crosses, with Papa & Michail Antonio putting the crosses in from the right and Lee Holmes and Joseph Mills crossing from the left. Morgan and Mellis were receiving as were Lambert and Connolly.

Everyone swapped round a bit, Dan Harding was putting balls in too.

Jacob Mellis looked good and had some lovely touches but his shooting was tragic, with just about every ball hit sky high. At one point AP had a pop at Mellis. Antonio looked pretty useful.

 

It was all standard stuff. After 30 minutes the rest of the squad joined us on the main pitch and a game was organised against the youth team.

The first team was KD, Harding, Jaidi, Trots, Lloydie, Wotton sat in front of the back 4 with Morgan and Mellis ahead of him, Connolly was wide left and Papa wide right, with Lambert up front.

AP kept blowing the whistle and analysing the play. He was pointing out where he wanted players for each situation.

There was a fair bit of work done with our forwards pressuring defenders, with a lot of focus on Papa getting into their left back and putting him under pressure.

AP was very organised and communicative and knew exactly what he wanted. I was pretty impressed to be honest. He kept calling Ben Reeves 'Rod Stewart' which made me chuckle (Reeves has a bit of a dodgy haircut).

 

Now I have always been a critic of Paul Wotton but I think he has improved a hell of a lot under AP. He was very vocal today, with plenty of words for the players around him. He seems to suit the defensive midfielder role, and looked very comfortable just in front of the centre backs.

Communication was good all round, it's surprising what you don't hear at SMS. The noise of the crowd drowns out the players, and I always assumed they were fairly quiet: no way!

Papa still seems to have a language problem. I swear he didn't understand a word AP said to him. When they needed a message to get through, Jaidi would talk to him in French.

 

After today I assume that AP will play 4-5-1 on Saturday, with RL up front. Connolly played wide left and didn't get a look in at all. He looked lost. I would much rather see him play up front in a 4-4-2 with Lambert. Those two will score some goals together. I reckon he will start on the bench on Saturday.......

 

......But that depends on the injuries. There were two noticeable absentees from training. Adam Lallana and Dean Hammond. Both were there but didn't train at all. I'm not sure what's up with Ads, but Hammond has a very slight hamstring, so was being rested.

 

There were no goals in the match.

Afterwards there was some free kick practise for Mills, Holmes, Mellis, Harding and Antonio. Harding was the pick of the bunch.

 

We then all went to the dome. We saw the players' lounge. All rather nice. However I would have liked to have seen a 40 inch TV on the wall, a PS3 and a copy of FIFA 10.

Instead there was a ping pong table, a 32 inch TV, a cheapo XBOX 360 and a copy of FIFA 07: Gash!

 

We had sarnies, crisps and coffee in the computer room; this was obviously where AP would discuss match tactics. A large interactive white board and plenty of PCs dotted around.

There was a white board with the following legend written on it: "No one is blamed, we are all accountable".

 

The players started to trickle in and chat to their sponsors. I had to shoot off and meet the wife at the Mayflower at that point (besides, Gillett wasn't around for hugs and cuddles).

 

Zigsdad stayed around (was that you with the pony tail mate?) so I'm sure he will give you a full account of himself and how he got on with the players.

 

That's all I can remember for now, if anything else occurs to me I will post it in this thread.

 

Finally, I want to thank Steve Grant and all the admins for getting this together, and for all the other fans who chipped in.

I think this is a great idea and we should do it every season. Maybe we could sponsor more players if we have a bit more time.

Although next time when we vote, can we vote for players who might actually play!!!!!

 

Thanks for the run down.

 

Paul Ince

[Nexstar]

Cheers for the write-up, hopefully Hammond will be OK by Saturday, slightly worried about Lallana but would very much like to see Connolly given a start.

[Block 5]

Thanks for the run down.

 

Paul Ince

 

Like Ince would read this forum in the hope of getting the inside track.....?

[Block 5]

Cheers for the write-up, hopefully Hammond will be OK by Saturday, slightly worried about Lallana but would very much like to see Connolly given a start.

 

I really want to see 4-4-2 with RL & DC.

[S-Clarke]

Thanks for that, interesting.

 

Wouldn't worry about Hammond and Lallana - AP mentioned on saints player that adam was rested as he had a slight knock on his ankle, but will be available on Saturday.

 

He said there were no other problems...so i think we can assume hammond was just rested as a precaution

[RonManager]

...and do you have to quote the whole 50 pages for a snappy one liner reply? There's only so much virtual space around you know.

[SaintDonkey]

I really want to see 4-4-2 with RL & DC.

 

If AL is injured we might see it

[smithy]

Cheers, interesting read.

[Saint Charlie]

Excellent read, would be good to hear Zigsdads account.

[VectisSaint]

After today I assume that AP will play 4-5-1 on Saturday, with RL up front.

I really think we must avoid using initials for Ricky, I nearly crapped myself when I read that :confused:

[Jonnyboy]

Just thought I'd share the experience with you all......

 

We got to Staplewood just after 10am.

The session started with a warm up and then the usual routines that we've all seen pre-match a thousand times.

There was a fair bit of banter between the players, Neil 'Trots' Trottman was singled out for some stick because he kept running in the wrong direction.

It was all good natured and was indicative of a pretty good sense of camaraderie between the players.

I started to take some pictures but was soon told to stop by the security guard who was lurking around, keeping an eye on us. I'm not sure why we couldn't take pictures of the session; an official club photographer was taking pics and filming.

 

After 20 minutes or so, the squad split into 2 groups; Wally Downes took the defenders off whilst AP took the attackers off to the main pitch.

The sponsors were given a choice and I chose to watch AP.

 

AP started working on the edge of the box, with players receiving the ball, taking a touch and then shooting. All bog standard stuff. David Connolly looked particularly impressive and was without doubt the most accurate finisher.

 

AP then moved on to crosses, with Papa & Michail Antonio putting the crosses in from the right and Lee Holmes and Joseph Mills crossing from the left. Morgan and Mellis were receiving as were Lambert and Connolly.

Everyone swapped round a bit, Dan Harding was putting balls in too.

Jacob Mellis looked good and had some lovely touches but his shooting was tragic, with just about every ball hit sky high. At one point AP had a pop at Mellis. Antonio looked pretty useful.

 

It was all standard stuff. After 30 minutes the rest of the squad joined us on the main pitch and a game was organised against the youth team.

The first team was KD, Harding, Jaidi, Trots, Lloydie, Wotton sat in front of the back 4 with Morgan and Mellis ahead of him, Connolly was wide left and Papa wide right, with Lambert up front.

AP kept blowing the whistle and analysing the play. He was pointing out where he wanted players for each situation.

There was a fair bit of work done with our forwards pressuring defenders, with a lot of focus on Papa getting into their left back and putting him under pressure.

AP was very organised and communicative and knew exactly what he wanted. I was pretty impressed to be honest. He kept calling Ben Reeves 'Rod Stewart' which made me chuckle (Reeves has a bit of a dodgy haircut).

 

Now I have always been a critic of Paul Wotton but I think he has improved a hell of a lot under AP. He was very vocal today, with plenty of words for the players around him. He seems to suit the defensive midfielder role, and looked very comfortable just in front of the centre backs.

Communication was good all round, it's surprising what you don't hear at SMS. The noise of the crowd drowns out the players, and I always assumed they were fairly quiet: no way!

Papa still seems to have a language problem. I swear he didn't understand a word AP said to him. When they needed a message to get through, Jaidi would talk to him in French.

 

After today I assume that AP will play 4-5-1 on Saturday, with RL up front. Connolly played wide left and didn't get a look in at all. He looked lost. I would much rather see him play up front in a 4-4-2 with Lambert. Those two will score some goals together. I reckon he will start on the bench on Saturday.......

 

......But that depends on the injuries. There were two noticeable absentees from training. Adam Lallana and Dean Hammond. Both were there but didn't train at all. I'm not sure what's up with Ads, but Hammond has a very slight hamstring, so was being rested.

 

There were no goals in the match.

Afterwards there was some free kick practise for Mills, Holmes, Mellis, Harding and Antonio. Harding was the pick of the bunch.

 

We then all went to the dome. We saw the players' lounge. All rather nice. However I would have liked to have seen a 40 inch TV on the wall, a PS3 and a copy of FIFA 10.

Instead there was a ping pong table, a 32 inch TV, a cheapo XBOX 360 and a copy of FIFA 07: Gash!

 

We had sarnies, crisps and coffee in the computer room; this was obviously where AP would discuss match tactics. A large interactive white board and plenty of PCs dotted around.

There was a white board with the following legend written on it: "No one is blamed, we are all accountable".

 

The players started to trickle in and chat to their sponsors. I had to shoot off and meet the wife at the Mayflower at that point (besides, Gillett wasn't around for hugs and cuddles).

 

Zigsdad stayed around (was that you with the pony tail mate?) so I'm sure he will give you a full account of himself and how he got on with the players.

 

That's all I can remember for now, if anything else occurs to me I will post it in this thread.

 

Finally, I want to thank Steve Grant and all the admins for getting this together, and for all the other fans who chipped in.

I think this is a great idea and we should do it every season. Maybe we could sponsor more players if we have a bit more time.

Although next time when we vote, can we vote for players who might actually play!!!!!

 

Really interresting, hope you are not paul ince in disguise...

[Genk]

Interesting that Lambert didn't have a few free-kicks seeing as he takes the majority for us.

[BigShadow]

Really interresting, hope you are not paul ince in disguise...

 

I'm sure Paul Ince is very grateful for this report and insight as to how Saints might line up on Saturday.

[Saint Charlie]

Ince only has to look at our last few games to see how we will line up.

[red&white56]

Great report - thanks for taking time to write it up for us !

[saintbletch]

I really want to see 4-4-2 with RL & DC.

 

I too would love to see that formation BUT can we really change a formation that has got has scoring freely and winning games on the bounce?

 

There is so much that is contingent on the 4-5-1 formation. For example Wotton seems to be re-born but would I have him in CM in a 4? I don't know. Morgan again is playing well with Wotton behind him but move that to a 4 and I'm not so sure he's strong enough.

 

Injuries might force AP's hand I guess

 

Thanks for a really interesting read.

[zigsdad]

Excellent read, would be good to hear Zigsdads account.

 

Hi everyone,

 

I posted a quick account yesterday on the train on the way home (see the prize-winners thread), but crashed out early when I got home. Rearranging everything (including shifting my most important lecture on the MSc Neuroscience course! - sorry students, but I just have to take the day off...) took some doing, but it was well worth it.

 

I live up in South London (Denmark Hill/Camberwell) and can't normally make mid-week matches, so explaining to my Dad why I was arriving on a Tuesday evening for no apparent reason was fun.... We've been season ticket holders for many years (since moving to the Bench Seats under the West Stand back in about 1980 when I got too old for the family centre), but recently he's had a run of bad luck with two hip replacements (including one which went wrong) so it was great to be able treat him to something that was so special to both of us.

 

Block5's post gives a great account of the day (was that you that came over for a chat?), but I'll add my thoughts. They'll be less technical - just in case the MK Dons spies are watching :-), but will give you a more personal account of the day.

 

I'd been out to Staplewood a few times to see the Youth team, but turning up and giving our names to the guy on the gate - including a long pause for effect while he found them - was all quite different. We got there early and could watch all the other sponsors turn up, mostly in big fancy cars as you might expect. By about 10.15 a few players began to trot over and we all gathered next to the field that was set out with those silhouettes of players, poles etc (but no cones). Most of the sponsors were standing there with silly grins like it was Christmas morning (I know I was!) - and that was just the adults, with a few kids too. One the players all turned up they went for a quick jog round the field and I got told off for taking pictures - not allowed until we went inside the dome....

 

For the first set of exercises the players were split into four groups of about 6 and did various routines run byNick Harvey (fitness coach) in which they dodged between poles and in between each other, mostly without any collisions - the exception being Neil Trotman who fell over at least once. It was great to hear all the banter going on between all the players and they seemed very much 'together' with lots of nick names used and **** takes going on to start with. As the pace of the session got quicker (which it did with several sprints and a lot of quick stepping through squares on the ground) there was obviously less breath to spare, but they all seemed to be having fun at the same time. Players who stood out a) as putting that bit more effort in included Paul Wotton, who seemed deadly serious about it all; or b) Saganovski who seemed to be drifting through the sesssion and not really part of it (just like in a match...?).

 

While this was going on Dean Wilkins came over to talk to us all and explain what the sessions were about and how the rest of the day would play out. When they split into defensive coaching (with Wally Downs - who is clearly quite a character!) on one of the outer fields - we headed over to the main pitch to watch the forwards. I'd have probably chosen that anyway, but my Dad needed somewhere to sit by then as his hip was giving him grief....

 

The biggest impression of the forwards training session was that Alan Pardew really is the man in charge. While other tasks were obviously farmed out to different coaches, he clearly is 'the man'. As described in more detail by Block5, the players ran through various drills - mostly fast balls into the box and finishing past Bart - who it had to be said did a pretty good job of getting in the way of some very hard shots. Connolly's finishing really stood out, Rickie and Papa also put lots away - with Papa being surprisingly good in the air. Michael Antonio also stood at as being very good. Pards was constantly talking in a voice that boomed out across the pitch, offering advice, praising and telling off players who'd ****ed up badly. There were a couple of very funny apologies for bad language to the sponsors, but again there was a great sense of togetherness and working towards a common goal of winning on Saturday.

 

Clearly the scouting has improved as there were several specific strategies that were being tried out with many references to how the Dons play and ways to counter them. These included both weakness they might have that could be attacked or particular pattens of play that they use which could be predicted and intercepted. These were then practiced several times when the whole first team got back together to practice against the youth team. Several of the strategies that they'd worked on earlier were tried out, with Pardew frequently using a whistle to stop play so that they could go back and try again.

 

The whole session was all very focussed and 'professional', but there were several funny quips from Wally Downs, including one 'tres bien, Papa' which had everyone laughing. All in all a relaxed happy atmosphere, but clearly a lot of concentrated work going on with Saturday in mind. It will be very interesting to see if they remember them or are allowed by the Dons to use them.

 

I have to run out to take my two youngest kids to school right now, but I'll send a second report later about when we moved inside to the dome and got to meet the players...

[fareham saint phil]

Cheers to both main posters in this, thanks for the effort and they are good reads its always good to get fans views on training and behind the scenes

[rooney]

Cheers to both main posters in this, thanks for the effort and they are good reads its always good to get fans views on training and behind the scenes

 

I would agree

[Soggy Bottom]

Just thought I'd share the experience with you all......

 

We got to Staplewood just after 10am.

The session started with a warm up and then the usual routines that we've all seen pre-match a thousand times.

There was a fair bit of banter between the players, Neil 'Trots' Trottman was singled out for some stick because he kept running in the wrong direction.

It was all good natured and was indicative of a pretty good sense of camaraderie between the players.

I started to take some pictures but was soon told to stop by the security guard who was lurking around, keeping an eye on us. I'm not sure why we couldn't take pictures of the session; an official club photographer was taking pics and filming.

 

After 20 minutes or so, the squad split into 2 groups; Wally Downes took the defenders off whilst AP took the attackers off to the main pitch.

The sponsors were given a choice and I chose to watch AP.

 

AP started working on the edge of the box, with players receiving the ball, taking a touch and then shooting. All bog standard stuff. David Connolly looked particularly impressive and was without doubt the most accurate finisher.

 

AP then moved on to crosses, with Papa & Michail Antonio putting the crosses in from the right and Lee Holmes and Joseph Mills crossing from the left. Morgan and Mellis were receiving as were Lambert and Connolly.

Everyone swapped round a bit, Dan Harding was putting balls in too.

Jacob Mellis looked good and had some lovely touches but his shooting was tragic, with just about every ball hit sky high. At one point AP had a pop at Mellis. Antonio looked pretty useful.

 

It was all standard stuff. After 30 minutes the rest of the squad joined us on the main pitch and a game was organised against the youth team.

The first team was KD, Harding, Jaidi, Trots, Lloydie, Wotton sat in front of the back 4 with Morgan and Mellis ahead of him, Connolly was wide left and Papa wide right, with Lambert up front.

AP kept blowing the whistle and analysing the play. He was pointing out where he wanted players for each situation.

There was a fair bit of work done with our forwards pressuring defenders, with a lot of focus on Papa getting into their left back and putting him under pressure.

AP was very organised and communicative and knew exactly what he wanted. I was pretty impressed to be honest. He kept calling Ben Reeves 'Rod Stewart' which made me chuckle (Reeves has a bit of a dodgy haircut).

 

Now I have always been a critic of Paul Wotton but I think he has improved a hell of a lot under AP. He was very vocal today, with plenty of words for the players around him. He seems to suit the defensive midfielder role, and looked very comfortable just in front of the centre backs.

Communication was good all round, it's surprising what you don't hear at SMS. The noise of the crowd drowns out the players, and I always assumed they were fairly quiet: no way!

Papa still seems to have a language problem. I swear he didn't understand a word AP said to him. When they needed a message to get through, Jaidi would talk to him in French.

 

After today I assume that AP will play 4-5-1 on Saturday, with RL up front. Connolly played wide left and didn't get a look in at all. He looked lost. I would much rather see him play up front in a 4-4-2 with Lambert. Those two will score some goals together. I reckon he will start on the bench on Saturday.......

 

......But that depends on the injuries. There were two noticeable absentees from training. Adam Lallana and Dean Hammond. Both were there but didn't train at all. I'm not sure what's up with Ads, but Hammond has a very slight hamstring, so was being rested.

 

There were no goals in the match.

Afterwards there was some free kick practise for Mills, Holmes, Mellis, Harding and Antonio. Harding was the pick of the bunch.

 

We then all went to the dome. We saw the players' lounge. All rather nice. However I would have liked to have seen a 40 inch TV on the wall, a PS3 and a copy of FIFA 10.

Instead there was a ping pong table, a 32 inch TV, a cheapo XBOX 360 and a copy of FIFA 07: Gash!

 

We had sarnies, crisps and coffee in the computer room; this was obviously where AP would discuss match tactics. A large interactive white board and plenty of PCs dotted around.

There was a white board with the following legend written on it: "No one is blamed, we are all accountable".

 

The players started to trickle in and chat to their sponsors. I had to shoot off and meet the wife at the Mayflower at that point (besides, Gillett wasn't around for hugs and cuddles).

 

Zigsdad stayed around (was that you with the pony tail mate?) so I'm sure he will give you a full account of himself and how he got on with the players.

 

That's all I can remember for now, if anything else occurs to me I will post it in this thread.

 

Finally, I want to thank Steve Grant and all the admins for getting this together, and for all the other fans who chipped in.

I think this is a great idea and we should do it every season. Maybe we could sponsor more players if we have a bit more time.

Although next time when we vote, can we vote for players who might actually play!!!!!

 

 

Frankly I can't believe you have written that tosh, 360 is much better platform than PS3

[KK the 2nd]

Like Ince would read this forum in the hope of getting the inside track.....?

He could do a lot worse ...

 

Interesting read. Thanks guys.

[saintds]

Fascinating reads so thanks to you both. Sounds like a happy camp to me and long may it continue.

[dellboypete]

Hi everyone,

 

I posted a quick account yesterday on the train on the way home (see the prize-winners thread), but crashed out early when I got home. Rearranging everything (including shifting my most important lecture on the MSc Neuroscience course! - sorry students, but I just have to take the day off...) took some doing, but it was well worth it.

 

 

Hmmmm...excellent read zd - but what worries me is, why didn't you take the opportunity to use rupert lowe as a subject for experiments with your postgrad students??

 

You could have changed the destiny of SFC and saved us all the agony of the past few years :smt103

[saintjay77]

Frankly I can't believe you have written that tosh, 360 is much better platform than PS3

 

If this was facebook I would click the Like button to this post.

[zigsdad]

Zigsdad stayed around (was that you with the pony tail mate?) so I'm sure he will give you a full account of himself and how he got on with the players.

 

Yes, that was me - I tend to stand out in a crowd...

 

So far the day had been a very interesting insight in how the team is being prepared for Saturday, but moving into the dome was the best bit of all when we got to meet the players. Now, I regularly stand up and give invited talks in front of big audiences at scientific conferences, talk to the media (live TV too) etc, BUT getting to meet (and even talk with!) the players took me right back to being a star-struck 10 year-old waiting in the Dell car park to get autographs from the likes of my hero Nick Holmes and Micky Channon... :-) As it turned out though there was no reason to be nervous, with all of them turning out to be surprising 'normal' - especially Graeme Murty who is a great guy and very much down to earth, but more of that later...

 

The outside training session had finished with some of the midfielders practicing shooting from the edge of the 'D' with pardew also taking part. The aim of the game was to score more than Bart saved, but it turned out that he won every time. In 3 rounds of shots they even failed to score more than once or twice and AP apologised for the lack of quality!

 

Wandering inside the dome was very interesting, having read several accounts of what its like had me prepared, but nevertheless it was fun to actually see it all. I managed to lose the rest of the party and sneak a quick peak at the indoor pitch, which is very impressive. The new players all trot out the cliche about Saints 'premier league facilities' in the 3rd division, but its undoubtedly true that the set-up at Staplewood is great.

 

We all went upstairs and walked through the players lounge (nice, but Block5 is right the TV is cr*p) to reach a smaller room with bunch of (cr*ppy) PC's down one wall (with a solitary iMac :-)) and comfy chairs for screening video/DVDs of games. We got some OK sandwiches plus tea/coffee and the chance to mingle for a while with the other sponsors. Despite my earlier misgivings about the flash cars, everyone I talked to was great. Real Saints fans through and through, and mostly all excited to be there with a few kids who had either bunked of school or were already on half term.

 

Gradually the players started to drift in one-by-one, having been told who their sponsor was by one of the club liaison people. With Graeme Murty obviously not having been involved in the main training session (he was doing some stretching excercises with some of the youth team players, but is mostly on hist strict rehab routine), I wasn't sure if he would turn up, but like most of the players he did and was very happy to have a long chat of 20+ minutes. Indeed, pretty much the whole squad turned up, with only a very few exceptions (Paul Wotton, Jacob Mellis, and Michall Antonio). I don't know whether or not their sponsors weren't there, but they were the only ones I didn't have a chance to say 'Hi' to .

 

I'd brought a new shirt especially to get it signed and strategically positioned myself by the door to catch the players as they came in. I managed to get over 20 players to sign and have a quick chat with. All of them were dressed very casually (so in my normal scriffy jeans I didn't feel out of place :-)), with one exception. Several of his team mates had told Papa that a suit was compulsory and he had duly obliged wearing a very sharp outfit :-). As with during the training session it was very clear that there's a great spirit between the players with plenty of p*ss taking going on. All of them were very happy to chat for a while, Adam to say he would be fine for Saturday, Rickie Lambert to say how much he's enjoying his time here etc. I had a longer chat with Alan Pardew who comes across exactly as he does in interviews, direct, honest and interested in what you say. He comes from the same area of South London that I live in and knew exactly where I was working (at King's on Denmark Hill) and he was keen to hear what I'd made of the training session & hoped that the players would remember the tactics for Saturday :-)

 

Of course, the longest chat was with Graeme Murty who was very happy to talk about his injury (thought it was really bad to start with AND got hit on the head by the gas & air cylinder when he was carried off!) and rehab routine (lots of strengthening exercises and he still had another session in the pool that afternoon), but also about moving clubs (very happy here and didn't have to move home) and what day-to-day life as a footballer is like. He's also very interested in the training side of the game too and is doing his badges. He comes across as a real leader (ideal captain material when he's fit?) and would be a good idea for the club to keep him on in some capacity when he retires.

 

It's clear that Morgan, Jaidi and Papa hang out together a lot, and as we drove away the last thing we saw was the three of them talking in the car park next to a giant SUV type wagon, but they did manage to wave us off :-).

 

I then had to get back to London in time for the school and nursery run. My two youngest boys (3 and nearly 7) are also big Saints fans and were very excited to hear about the day and see the signed shirt. Even my long suffering wife (a long term Saints widow) and oldest son (a die hard Stokie boy - he was born there...) feigned interest in what had been a wonderful day before I crashed out early.

 

I know that it meant a lot to me and my dad and I'd like thank everyone for making it happen. Although I've rarely posted, the Saints Web (in all its previous forms) and Saints List have kept me going through the years, especially when I lived over in Munich and then in San Francisco.

 

I hope that someone else reading this will be as lucky to get picked next year as it really was a wonderful experience. Now I really should get back to work... :-)

[Thedelldays]

zigsdad...did you surprise your dad..how happy was he..?

[JamiSaint]

Thanks all for taking the time to let us know - really interesting reads.

[Charlie Wayman]

Great stuff Block 5. Thanks for the insight. You should be reporting games for the Echo, much more info than we get from Adam Leitch

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

Frankly I can't believe you have written that tosh, 360 is much better platform than PS3

 

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[Wes Tender]

Zigsdad, thanks very much for taking the trouble to post such a detailed and interesting summary of your visit. I was delighted to note that the cameraderie and spirit in the camp was so relaxed and easy going. I noted that Papa appears to have been the victim of a prank by his mates, them telling him that a suit was compulsory whereas all the others turned up in casual gear. I wonder how much of this sort of practical joking was present before, or whether it has been turned up a notch or two by Wally Downes, credited with being the instigator of the original crazy gang at Wimbledon. In any event, the end result appears to be a very happy bunch of players getting on well together. As many have been captains in other teams and others having played either as top scorers or at a higher level, there would be scope for a big-time Charlie attitude from them, but apparently there is little or no evidence of this. Also good to hear that Murty is such a nice outgoing guy, as a post on another thread surprised me when it claimed that he was an arrogant sod. Frankly I had doubted it and am happy that it appears to be without foundation.

 

It is certainly encouraging to have such spirit and unity in the camp, as it is beginning to translate into results and will be important later when players like Trotman and Papa come to decide whether they would like to stay when their loan spells end.

[Jez]

Great read, thats the sorta thing this forum is all about.

Cheers both of you, made my lunchtime much more interesting.

[LeGod7]

(but no cones).

 

We havent been allowed to use cones since Dennis "cones" Rofe was sacked.

[Hamilton Saint]

Thanks a lot to both posters for their detailed accounts.

[zigsdad]

zigsdad...did you surprise your dad..how happy was he..?

 

I think he twigged that something was up, but he played along with it :-)

 

He's not a very outgoing person, but was clearly very chuffed that I took him along. We don't always see eye to eye about many things, but Saints is one big thing we have in common. Since he's been (and my Mum has also been) through some tough times health-wise recently it was a real treat for him.

 

So all together it made the day more special. Not only did I get to see training and meet the players, but he got a lot from it too :-)

[Redondo Saint]

Very interesting.

 

What's with the 'no cameras' thing?

[Saint Charlie]

Brilliant account Zigsdad. We have our club back.

[Liquidshokk]

Sorry if I'm a bit out of the loop but how did this come about? How does someone go about getting a chance to spend a day like this there???

 

Sounds Ace. Thanks for the report and roll on tomorrow....

[brianoneils slidingtackle]

Thanks for the information. Sounds very positive for tacking the spirit out to competitive matches.

[ottery st mary]

Much appreciated. Both gave me a very interesting and informative read..Cheers.

 

COYRS

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[RonManager]

Sorry if I'm a bit out of the loop but how did this come about? How does someone go about getting a chance to spend a day like this there???

 

Sounds Ace. Thanks for the report and roll on tomorrow....

 

See the Player Sponsorship sticky thread.

[rooney]

Much appreciated you two.A very good and interesting read for those who can never get to these sessions.

[VectisSaint]

Very interesting.

 

What's with the 'no cameras' thing?

He went to Sheff Utd

[dronskisaint]

Great to read - thanks for taking the time & for growing the good feeling that I've had still further.

[red&white56]

Great reports - just like the reports from the matches - these are things which keep me going during the week. Thanks to the forum for setting this up!

[Psycrow]

Hi everyone,

 

I posted a quick account yesterday on the train on the way home (see the prize-winners thread), but crashed out early when I got home. Rearranging everything (including shifting my most important lecture on the MSc Neuroscience course! - sorry students, but I just have to take the day off...) took some doing, but it was well worth it.

 

 

Can you give us a list of student names? you know... for future reference... last thing I want is a Neurodoc who's lecturing puts Saints in front of the most important lecture of his year

 

Seriously though. Greats reads from Zigsdad and Block5. Thanks very much. Training reports used to be a regular thing a few years back and I loved reading them, but they've all too rare recently and the detail you both went into was fascinating. Its very much appreciated.

[Hamilton Saint]

Very interesting.

 

What's with the 'no cameras' thing?

 

 

Probably because the club and/or the player's agent want exclusive control of good quality photographic images of the players (for commercial reasons).

 

[Note that the club had its own photographer at the training session.]

[Upton72]

Thanks to both of you for a fascinating insight into what happens outside of match day.

Good to hear that AP is the "man". A good friend of mine is a WHU supporter who wrote to AP when he left and received a handwritten reply.

Not surprising that Morgan, Jaidi & Papa stick together as they share a common language.

Ziysdad; interesting to read that eldest son is a Stokeite, so is my No2 son. He was born up there and lives near by.

[Block 5]

Great stuff Block 5. Thanks for the insight. You should be reporting games for the Echo, much more info than we get from Adam Leitch

 

Thanks mate.

If anyone from the Echo is reading (and we all know where you get your stories from, so that's a given) I would just like to say that I am available for freelance work, weddings, bar mitzvahs etc.