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david in sweden

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Meeting Terry Paine tomorrow evening. If you want me to ask him anything please let me know.

 

OK ......ask him

Who was the best (toughest) defender he played against ?

 

1) in the football league

 

2) in internationals U23 or Full caps.

 

3) which was his (own) favourite match he played in. (any level).

 

david in sweden david.cross@comhem.se

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OK ......ask him

Who was the best (toughest) defender he played against ?

 

1) in the football league

 

2) in internationals U23 or Full caps.

 

3) which was his (own) favourite match he played in. (any level).

 

david in sweden david.cross@comhem.se

 

1) Could be Ray Wilson as he was the best LB around in Paine's era

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Yes.

 

Did Ron Matthews really pull Terry down by his left ear for a penalty when we beat Derby 6-4 and we were down to 9 men, or was Terry just conning the ref (again)?

 

I was at that game but dont recall the incident but remember Huxford was in goal

 

What happened?

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I was at that game but dont recall the incident but remember Huxford was in goal

 

What happened?

 

EVERYTHING happened in that game. Played on April 1st 1964.

In short...Knapp couldn't play. Mike Hennigan was reserve CH.

0-1, 1-1, 2-1, 2-2, 2-3, 3-3 at HT.

Goalie Tony Godfrey off at HT with concussion. Huxford in goal for second half. (now down to 10 men )

Hennigan injured and off field after 50 mins. Saints down to 9 men (with NO SUBs. in those days.)

 

Derby players were queueing up to make new attacks.

Estimated ball possession: Saints 20 Derby 80

 

Huxford played like a windmill in goal with two full backs permanently stood on the goal line. Lost count of the Derby corners.

2nd half goals came from break aways ..and we seemed to score every time.4-3, 4-4, 5-4, 6-4

 

Paine 3 (2 pens.), Chivers 2 Sydenham 1 Final score 6-4.

One of the most action-packed games I've ever seen.

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Just tell him us lot here in Dubai really enjoy watching him on DST in the pubs as we can't get it here.

 

And then ask him IF they are planning to show any L1 (or the JPT) games this season down there as nobody else here is and at least we can then trundle off for some beers to watch the games and see him!

 

Would save me & EoA a lot of googling through the arabic schedules (we have over 1,000 FTA channels down here and nothing on)

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Meeting Terry Paine tomorrow evening. If you want me to ask him anything please let me know.

 

Thanks for the offer JM, not ask, but pass on info. Can you please tell Terry about Big Ron's wife Chris passing. Ron and Terry were teammates and the making of each other for many years and expect Terry would want to know.

 

Thanks TT

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Thanks for the offer JM, not ask, but pass on info. Can you please tell Terry about Big Ron's wife Chris passing. Ron and Terry were teammates and the making of each other for many years and expect Terry would want to know.

 

Thanks TT

 

Was just coming to the thread as the thought had occurred to me also.

 

I'm a bit stumped now, tbh. Tell you what, ask him which boot manufacturer was his favourite back then, and what does he think of blades..?

 

I've got a feeling I'd know his response to the last point.

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Just tell him us lot here in Dubai really enjoy watching him on DST in the pubs as we can't get it here.

 

And then ask him IF they are planning to show any L1 (or the JPT) games this season down there as nobody else here is and at least we can then trundle off for some beers to watch the games and see him!

 

Would save me & EoA a lot of googling through the arabic schedules (we have over 1,000 FTA channels down here and nothing on)

Yes, bl00dy annoying, isn't it, when we know that SkySports is showing Saints live, and we get some or other Portuguese game on DSTV instead. It happened a lot when we were in the CCC. There's no chance in L1.

 

On the upside, when we get back to the Prem, DSTV show around 7 of the 10 PL games each weekend live, and the others are shown in full, but delayed. Roll on the Premier League!

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EVERYTHING happened in that game. Played on April 1st 1964.

In short...Knapp couldn't play. Mike Hennigan was reserve CH.

0-1, 1-1, 2-1, 2-2, 2-3, 3-3 at HT.

Goalie Tony Godfrey off at HT with concussion. Huxford in goal for second half. (now down to 10 men )

Hennigan injured and off field after 50 mins. Saints down to 9 men (with NO SUBs. in those days.)

 

Derby players were queueing up to make new attacks.

Estimated ball possession: Saints 20 Derby 80

 

Huxford played like a windmill in goal with two full backs permanently stood on the goal line. Lost count of the Derby corners.

2nd half goals came from break aways ..and we seemed to score every time.4-3, 4-4, 5-4, 6-4

 

Paine 3 (2 pens.), Chivers 2 Sydenham 1 Final score 6-4.

One of the most action-packed games I've ever seen.

 

Thank you I remembered the game OK as I was at the Archers Road end where Huxford was in goal.

 

 

I meant the Paine Penalty incident mentioned in an earlier post

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Thanks for the offer JM, not ask, but pass on info. Can you please tell Terry about Big Ron's wife Chris passing. Ron and Terry were teammates and the making of each other for many years and expect Terry would want to know.

 

Thanks TT

 

 

Yes no problem mate.

 

Terry is about in southampton all week, various events etc, including receiving an honoary doctorate from solent uni. He is giving an open Q & A session at solent tonight, 5-6 with a signing session afterwards.

 

http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~1844738,00.html

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Just got back from meeting him. Answered lots of questions regarding world cup and south africas bid etc.

 

I asked him..

 

"Who was the best defender you played against in...

 

A) League - He answered: Ray Wilson

B) International" - He answered: Karl Schnellinger (West German Defender)

 

I then asked him what was his favourite match he played in, mentioned loads of games but the one for him that stuck in his mind was the England v Rest of World match in 1963 in which England won 2-1. He chose this game because of the sheer talent on the pitch, he was humbled almost to be on the same stage as these greats.

 

I asked him the "did Ron Matthews really pull you down by left ear for a pen when we beat derby 6-4 and down to 9 men?" He said he remembered the game well and said he was definitely fouled, wasnt sure it was his ear though ;-)

 

Then had a chat with him about boots and in particular players wearing blades. He said that he introduced a set of blades into SA football and doesnt blame the blades for knee injuries in the modern game but more the pace of it. Yes there are cases where blades havent helped but doesnt think its solely down to them.

 

I then asked him if he could have his time again now, what players would he most like to play alongside, he replied Crouch as he thought he could supply him with plenty of crosses and knock-downs and Rooney just for his flare and skill.

 

He then signed books and just chatted openly about saints, Lowe and the new set-up. How he was asked last season to give hs opinion to Lowe how he thought a game had gone and what could be done differently, he declined (got the impression Terry is more than pleased Lowe has gone)

 

He spoke about his tv work, no plans Phil to show L1 or JPT games. Is gutted they only get access to little packages of L1 games.

 

Sees the future at saints very rosey. Is pleased that stability is there, describes Cortese has a hard task master who doesnt like losing. Mentioned that Marcus will be good for the city as he has plans for investment etc.

 

All in all a top bloke, clearly passionate about football and saints. Is very excited with the world cup coming up and hopes it puts SA football on the map for years to come.

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Just got back from meeting him. Answered lots of questions regarding world cup and south africas bid etc.

 

I asked him..

 

"Who was the best defender you played against in...

 

A) League - He answered: Ray Wilson

B) International" - He answered: Karl Schnellinger (West German Defender)

 

I then asked him what was his favourite match he played in, mentioned loads of games but the one for him that stuck in his mind was the England v Rest of World match in 1963 in which England won 2-1. He chose this game because of the sheer talent on the pitch, he was humbled almost to be on the same stage as these greats.

 

I asked him the "did Ron Matthews really pull you down by left ear for a pen when we beat derby 6-4 and down to 9 men?" He said he remembered the game well and said he was definitely fouled, wasnt sure it was his ear though ;-)

 

Then had a chat with him about boots and in particular players wearing blades. He said that he introduced a set of blades into SA football and doesnt blame the blades for knee injuries in the modern game but more the pace of it. Yes there are cases where blades havent helped but doesnt think its solely down to them.

 

I then asked him if he could have his time again now, what players would he most like to play alongside, he replied Crouch as he thought he could supply him with plenty of crosses and knock-downs and Rooney just for his flare and skill.

 

He then signed books and just chatted openly about saints, Lowe and the new set-up. How he was asked last season to give hs opinion to Lowe how he thought a game had gone and what could be done differently, he declined (got the impression Terry is more than pleased Lowe has gone)

 

He spoke about his tv work, no plans Phil to show L1 or JPT games. Is gutted they only get access to little packages of L1 games.

 

Sees the future at saints very rosey. Is pleased that stability is there, describes Cortese has a hard task master who doesnt like losing. Mentioned that Marcus will be good for the city as he has plans for investment etc.

 

All in all a top bloke, clearly passionate about football and saints. Is very excited with the world cup coming up and hopes it puts SA football on the map for years to come.

 

Sounds like a special night JM, file it away in the happy place.

 

And thanks for asking the question, really appreciate that, and yes am gutted as well, it's such a long way to Justin's place from here and I think that "people in rural areas" back home have better internet service than we do down here...

 

(Did you get a line on any ticket sources for the England games in SAF BTW?) :eek:

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Just got back from meeting him. Answered lots of questions regarding world cup and south africas bid etc.

 

I asked him..

 

"Who was the best defender you played against in...

 

A) League - He answered: Ray Wilson

B) International" - He answered: Karl Schnellinger (West German Defender)

 

I then asked him what was his favourite match he played in, mentioned loads of games but the one for him that stuck in his mind was the England v Rest of World match in 1963 in which England won 2-1. He chose this game because of the sheer talent on the pitch, he was humbled almost to be on the same stage as these greats.

 

I asked him the "did Ron Matthews really pull you down by left ear for a pen when we beat derby 6-4 and down to 9 men?" He said he remembered the game well and said he was definitely fouled, wasnt sure it was his ear though ;-)

 

Then had a chat with him about boots and in particular players wearing blades. He said that he introduced a set of blades into SA football and doesnt blame the blades for knee injuries in the modern game but more the pace of it. Yes there are cases where blades havent helped but doesnt think its solely down to them.

 

I then asked him if he could have his time again now, what players would he most like to play alongside, he replied Crouch as he thought he could supply him with plenty of crosses and knock-downs and Rooney just for his flare and skill.

 

He then signed books and just chatted openly about saints, Lowe and the new set-up. How he was asked last season to give hs opinion to Lowe how he thought a game had gone and what could be done differently, he declined (got the impression Terry is more than pleased Lowe has gone)

 

He spoke about his tv work, no plans Phil to show L1 or JPT games. Is gutted they only get access to little packages of L1 games.

 

Sees the future at saints very rosey. Is pleased that stability is there, describes Cortese has a hard task master who doesnt like losing. Mentioned that Marcus will be good for the city as he has plans for investment etc.

 

All in all a top bloke, clearly passionate about football and saints. Is very excited with the world cup coming up and hopes it puts SA football on the map for years to come.

 

Great job JM. Very informative - thanks. Did you tell him about Chris Davies? Did he have any message for Ron?

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Oh you were at it too?! I asked about how he managed to stay so injury free. The guy is a true gent & has alot of interesting things to say. Sorry for the sheer amount of ****s on my course especially the guy at the back who sounds like a ****, looks like a **** and is a ****.

 

yes i was the one who asked him about the best defenders he came up against.

 

lol i did notice the odd idiot, especially when he walked in, the guys behind me were laughing at how old he was and the way he walked!!

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Sounds like a special night JM, file it away in the happy place.

 

And thanks for asking the question, really appreciate that, and yes am gutted as well, it's such a long way to Justin's place from here and I think that "people in rural areas" back home have better internet service than we do down here...

 

(Did you get a line on any ticket sources for the England games in SAF BTW?) :eek:

 

He did speak of where he "heard" England were going to be based, but i cant remember where it was!! Somewhere with high altitude.I will find out where it was. As for tickets he was saying that its all FIFA, they com in and do everything, from advertising to media. He mentioned how all the local sponsorship boards at grounds had to be pulled down and FIFAs choices put in place, describing it as "loaning the country to fifa"

 

certainly will keep it in the special memory place. Also have some signed books (Constant Paine and Dell Diamond) which I will be giving to a charity raffle (details to follow). 2 of the 4 books I have signed David Bull (the author) donated them once he knew it would go to charity. Nice bloke and will be at the Rovers game Friday :-)

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He chose this game because of the sheer talent on the pitch, he was humbled almost to be on the same stage as these greats..

 

He scored the winner in that one I think.

 

He never did get a look in when Ray Wilson played against him

 

I still think he was the best all round footballer to play for Southampton in the last fifty years.

 

He could score goals make goals and play on the wing or in central midfield

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The 1969 Saints team featuring TP (which I watched many times) are celebrated in my new novel about the 1969 Isle of Wight Festival. There's an extract at http://iow69.wordpress.com/extract/ which I hope will amuse people.

 

Indeed - hard to imagine the likes of Big Jake and TP featuring in a book on the Isle of Wight pop festival but you have managed it!

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Just met Terry Paine at his book signing at Waterstones, I've gotta say that its the first time I have spoke to him, he was one of the gods on the pitch when I first started watching Saints. What a quality bloke, he took time to speak to everyone and answered every question even though there was a long queue. The book is also good value :-)

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Hats off to JustMike for the terrific write up on his meeting with Terry. Really interesting report and answers. Must say saintsmike25, if he's a real gent then he's changed from way back when he'd ask me to wash his car in return for an autograph. Age matures use all I guess and Terry remains one of the all time greats of football.

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Hats off to JustMike for the terrific write up on his meeting with Terry. Really interesting report and answers. Must say saintsmike25, if he's a real gent then he's changed from way back when he'd ask me to wash his car in return for an autograph. Age matures use all I guess and Terry remains one of the all time greats of football.

 

Thanks ART, it was a very good evening. The guy was on top form, had time for everyone. I was especially greatful to him for letting me sit down with him and ask the rest of the questions i had for him. He was more than happy to turn each of them into a full on conversation rather than just a Q & A session

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