Minsk Posted 1 December, 2009 Share Posted 1 December, 2009 I noticed Nick G hadn't posted this up yet, so thought I would help him out : WON Wycombe 1-0 Lambert WON Northampton 3-2 Waigo, Lallana, Hammond WON Hartlepool 3-1 Lallana (2) Lambert Drew Norwich 2-2 Lallana Connolly LOST Brighton 3-1 Lambert WON Charlton 2-1 Thomas, Lambert WON Bristol Rover 3-2 Connolly (2) Antonio Drew Orient 2-2 Lambert (2) WON MK 3-1 Lambert, Connolly, Hammond WON Oldham 3-1 Lambert, Connolly, Hammond WON Southend 3-1 Lallana (2) Trottman WON Torquay (pens) 2-2 Wiago (2) WON Gillingham 4-1 Lambert, Lallana (2), Waigo P.S. Yes, we drew the Torquay game over the 90 minutes but we won it on pens. A win is a win, no matter how it comes!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan17 Posted 1 December, 2009 Share Posted 1 December, 2009 lol - been waiting for this FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 December, 2009 Share Posted 1 December, 2009 10 wins in 13 games - not bad at all! (and only 1 defeat) that's probably top 2 form in any normal season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 1 December, 2009 Share Posted 1 December, 2009 I was surprised it wasn't here but thought would wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 1 December, 2009 Share Posted 1 December, 2009 Cut and paste time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 1 December, 2009 Share Posted 1 December, 2009 bit worried the goals have dried up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocco boxo Posted 1 December, 2009 Share Posted 1 December, 2009 We were bad tonight and still won that means more to me than any stat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 December, 2009 Share Posted 1 December, 2009 bit worried the goals have dried up .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 1 December, 2009 Share Posted 1 December, 2009 We get the message, FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Will Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 We get the message, FFS. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Any negative posts on the forum regarding the team should be directed here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 bit worried the goals have dried up Scored enough tonight didn't we Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 I noticed Nick G hadn't posted this up yet, so thought I would help him out : WON Wycombe 1-0 Lambert WON Northampton 3-2 Waigo, Lallana, Hammond WON Hartlepool 3-1 Lallana (2) Lambert Drew Norwich 2-2 Lallana Connolly LOST Brighton 3-1 Lambert WON Charlton 2-1 Thomas, Lambert WON Bristol Rover 3-2 Connolly (2) Antonio Drew Orient 2-2 Lambert (2) WON MK 3-1 Lambert, Connolly, Hammond WON Oldham 3-1 Lambert, Connolly, Hammond WON Southend 3-1 Lallana (2) Trottman WON Torquay (pens) 2-2 Wiago (2) WON Gillingham 4-1 Lambert, Lallana (2), Waigo P.S. Yes, we drew the Torquay game over the 90 minutes but we won it on pens. A win is a win, no matter how it comes!!!!!!!!! Delldays will have a different view on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Any negative posts on the forum regarding the team should be directed here. Many of the people posting on this thread called anyone who suggested we should e producing this form, negative not so long ago Great Reading all the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Delldays will have a different view on this How I was claiming we should be producing this form or work towards it. I wa laughed at an called unrealsitic for doing so now we are hitting this form I want us to get better...or am I being unrealistic again..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Delldays will have a different view on this If You're talking about the draw, it's a draw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Any negative posts on the forum regarding the team should be directed here. Many of the people posting on this thread called anyone who suggested we should e producing this form, negative not so long ago Great Reading all the same Quite right TDD. Fan that thinks we should be aiming to finish in the play-offs because we have the squad capable of doing so = characterised as a "negative moaner". Fan that drones on about how we should only aim to finish just above the relegation places, we shouldn't expect any better than that and we are not a bigger club than Yeovil = positive, realistic fan. You couldn't make it up. I think this must be the only football forum where making out your team are much more rubbish than they are and aiming pathetically low is seen as the "positive/realistic" viewpoint. Now we are clear of the relegation zone, do all those super positive/realistic fans now think we are going to hover around 19th for the rest of the season? Do you all think Pardew is that useless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Quite right TDD. Fan that thinks we should be aiming to finish in the play-offs because we have the squad capable of doing so = characterised as a "negative moaner". Fan that drones on about how we should only aim to finish just above the relegation places, we shouldn't expect any better than that and we are not a bigger club than Yeovil = positive, realistic fan. You couldn't make it up. I think this must be the only football forum where making out your team are much more rubbish than they are and aiming pathetically low is seen as the "positive/realistic" viewpoint. Now we are clear of the relegation zone, do all those super positive/realistic fans now think we are going to hover around 19th for the rest of the season? Do you all think Pardew is that useless? You could make it up. People set targets in the way they wish. If they wish to aim high only to disappoint then so be it. If they wish to aim low and be happy, that is their choice too. If they want to be realistic considering this team was hastily put together with no pre-season, expect a slow start and then improvement then that too is up to them. If you wish to continue this pishing contest then, that too, is your choice. FWIW my target was within 10 points off the play offs, I thought that was "realistic". It may be I underestimated how quickly AP would get us in the winning groove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Quite right TDD. Fan that thinks we should be aiming to finish in the play-offs because we have the squad capable of doing so = characterised as a "negative moaner". Fan that drones on about how we should only aim to finish just above the relegation places, we shouldn't expect any better than that and we are not a bigger club than Yeovil = positive, realistic fan. You couldn't make it up. I think this must be the only football forum where making out your team are much more rubbish than they are and aiming pathetically low is seen as the "positive/realistic" viewpoint. Now we are clear of the relegation zone, do all those super positive/realistic fans now think we are going to hover around 19th for the rest of the season? Do you all think Pardew is that useless? Check out this thread: http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=18300 There are still people on there saying that our priority is staying up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 bit worried the goals have dried up Hence the need to be able to keep clean sheets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 How I was claiming we should be producing this form or work towards it. I wa laughed at an called unrealsitic for doing so now we are hitting this form I want us to get better...or am I being unrealistic again..? saintwarwick was referring to the fact that the OP said the draw with Torquay should be called a win. Personally I'd rather this thread list the last eleven games and the embarrassing display against Torquay be cast from history. But that might be called 'spin'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 League form for last 10 games. Team P Pts F A GD Leeds 10 23 21 5 16 Norwich 10 23 24 8 16 Colchester 10 19 16 9 7 Southampton 10 18 24 16 8 Walsall 10 17 17 12 5 Huddersfield 10 16 20 8 12 Millwall 10 16 17 9 8 Charlton 10 16 16 13 3 Swindon 10 16 14 11 3 Yeovil 10 16 11 10 1 Hartlepool 10 15 15 13 2 Exeter 10 13 15 16 -1 Leyton Orient 10 13 8 15 -7 Carlisle 10 12 16 17 -1 Southend 10 12 10 13 -3 Oldham 10 12 8 11 -3 Milton Keynes Dons 10 12 13 18 -5 Gillingham 10 11 9 15 -6 Tranmere 10 10 8 17 -9 Bristol Rvs 10 10 15 25 -10 Brentford 10 9 10 15 -5 Brighton 10 9 13 19 -6 Wycombe 10 9 10 17 -7 Stockport 10 5 5 20 -15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 We are Man City of L1! The last 13 games is a minimum expected return! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Oviously it was a worry that it took so long to get out of the bottom zone but the last 13 matches do not lie. What is more encouraging is that we are winning games we we are not playing brilliantly, something all the top teams can do becaus no one plays brilliantly every week. Pardew is doing well. Yes, still room for improvement but again, the same can be said for most teams. Mind you, the moaners will be out in force again once we lose a match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 How I was claiming we should be producing this form or work towards it. I wa laughed at an called unrealsitic for doing so now we are hitting this form I want us to get better...or am I being unrealistic again..? As jam pointed out I was referring to the Torquay result hence my highlighting the part in question As for being unrealistic, no your not neither am I but I've always been a glass half full type person so at least my expectations are being met more often now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 If You're talking about the draw, it's a draw So what day is the replay then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Fan that thinks we should be aiming to finish in the play-offs because we have the squad capable of doing so = characterised as a "negative moaner". Fan that drones on about how we should only aim to finish just above the relegation places, we shouldn't expect any better than that and we are not a bigger club than Yeovil = positive, realistic fan. Bloody hell you can't half polarize things. I hope it's done for effect but please aknowledge the middle ground that most of us live in. Fan that thinks we HAVE to finish in the play off places and is looking for any opportunity to slag off the players and the amanger when we get a poor result are caharacterised as "negative moaner" for a good reason. That's what they are, just look at any match reaction thread and they're easy to spot. Even when we've won it's all about the negative and slagging off players. Fan who thinks we could just make the play offs with a little bit of luck and will back the team to the hilt while we're on course to do so, but won't turn on them if we falter a bit (a la Norwich and Leyton draws), but will rightly criticise the team after a mare like Brighton. That's a positive realistic fan, and encompasses most of the people on this board. Fan who thinks we're not a bigger club than Yeovil and should be aiming to just avoid relegation? No idea, can't say I've met one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Reasons why the playoffs may not happen!! Drew Millwall LOST Huddersfield LOST Swindon Drew Brentford Drew Stockport Drew Colchester Drew Charlton Drew Carlisle LOST Bristol Rovers LOST BHA Drew Norwich Drew LO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draino76 Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Looking forward to the last 14 games Fred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Quite right TDD. Fan that thinks we should be aiming to finish in the play-offs because we have the squad capable of doing so = characterised as a "negative moaner". Fan that drones on about how we should only aim to finish just above the relegation places, we shouldn't expect any better than that and we are not a bigger club than Yeovil = positive, realistic fan. You couldn't make it up. I think this must be the only football forum where making out your team are much more rubbish than they are and aiming pathetically low is seen as the "positive/realistic" viewpoint. Now we are clear of the relegation zone, do all those super positive/realistic fans now think we are going to hover around 19th for the rest of the season? Do you all think Pardew is that useless? Bloody hell you can't half polarize things. I hope it's done for effect but please aknowledge the middle ground that most of us live in. Fan that thinks we HAVE to finish in the play off places and is looking for any opportunity to slag off the players and the amanger when we get a poor result are caharacterised as "negative moaner" for a good reason. That's what they are, just look at any match reaction thread and they're easy to spot. Even when we've won it's all about the negative and slagging off players. Fan who thinks we could just make the play offs with a little bit of luck and will back the team to the hilt while we're on course to do so, but won't turn on them if we falter a bit (a la Norwich and Leyton draws), but will rightly criticise the team after a mare like Brighton. That's a positive realistic fan, and encompasses most of the people on this board. Fan who thinks we're not a bigger club than Yeovil and should be aiming to just avoid relegation? No idea, can't say I've met one! Thank God there's someone on here with a bit of sense, and reality. Good post, I agree entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 (edited) Fan who thinks we're not a bigger club than Yeovil and should be aiming to just avoid relegation? No idea, can't say I've met one! Me neither, but they contribute to this forum. Just before we played them there were fans going apoplectic about the very idea anyone dared say Saints were a bigger club than Yeovil - it was terribly "arrogant" to think so, apparently. And as someone has already linked to on this thread, there are still people who think fifth from bottom would be some kind of triumph. And yes, of course I overstate for effect on this forum - that's the point, to generate a bit of debate, but the kernal of truth is there. In the main, the forum contributors who overstate how awful we are and how we can only dream of finishing eighteenth as seen as oh-so-wise sages when anyone saying we can and should finish top ten bare-minimum are cast as "unrealistic" lunatics. It is madness and we will see who the real "realists" are come May. I'll wage it won't be the "positive" relegation flirters. Edited 2 December, 2009 by CB Fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Reasons why the playoffs may not happen!! Drew Millwall LOST Huddersfield LOST Swindon Drew Brentford Drew Stockport Drew Colchester Drew Charlton Drew Carlisle LOST Bristol Rovers LOST BHA Drew Norwich Drew LO That is not what the OP has done at all. You have plucked all the games we have drawn/lost and clumped them together. They weren't all in one run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 That is not what the OP has done at all. You have plucked all the games we have drawn/lost and clumped them together. They weren't all in one run. :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 :confused: You really are quite an oddball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 (edited) Did not beat Torquay.....drew. Losing to Brighton was awful and only 1 CS in last 13.... Edited 2 December, 2009 by saint_stevo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Did not beat Yeovil.....drew. Losing to Brighton was awful and only 1 CS in last 13.... We did beat Yeovil, 2-0. 2 Lambo pens. Brighton was a blip, as shown by the way we've responded since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Did not beat Torquay.....drew. Losing to Brighton was awful and only 1 CS in last 13.... This is shocking news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Reason why the playoffs may not happen!! 10 point deduction imposed by the Football League for going into administration I've corrected it for you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 I have faith we will make the playoffs. Even if we don't i feel that we will be heading in the right direction for next year. I am not negative however my minimum expectation for this season would be to re build a team ready to march towards the CCC next season, imo we have done that, bar perhaps a few more signings. A fantastic finish for me would be playoffs, and as i have said before, it is not beyond the realms of impossibility at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Did not beat Torquay.....drew. Losing to Brighton was awful and only 1 CS in last 13.... Won 10, Drew 2 and lost 1 and you are still finding negatives, you couldn't make it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Won 10, Drew 2 and lost 1 and you are still finding negatives, you couldn't make it up. Your sentence is made up! as we have Won 9, Drew 3 and lost 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Will Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 The argument that we didn't beat Torquay is lame. Did we, or did we not get into the next round after that game? Yes we did is the answer, so we won the game. Cup games aren't always 90 minutes long. It doesn't matter that it took more than 90 minutes. We won, we progressed. If England get to the World Cup final next year and win on penalties, are you going to say we didn't win the World Cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 The argument that we didn't beat Torquay is lame. Did we, or did we not get into the next round after that game? Yes we did is the answer, so we won the game. Cup games aren't always 90 minutes long. It doesn't matter that it took more than 90 minutes. We won, we progressed. If England get to the World Cup final next year and win on penalties, are you going to say we didn't win the World Cup? Who is the question for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Will Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Anyone who thinks we didn't beat Torquay to be honest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 The argument that we didn't beat Torquay is lame. Did we, or did we not get into the next round after that game? Yes we did is the answer, so we won the game. Cup games aren't always 90 minutes long. It doesn't matter that it took more than 90 minutes. We won, we progressed. If England get to the World Cup final next year and win on penalties, are you going to say we didn't win the World Cup? As has been said on here many many times: We DREW the Game but WON the Cup Tie. Its not rocket science is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Anyone who thinks we didn't beat Torquay to be honest! Let me answer with a question. Little Jonny placed a £5 bet on Saints to WIN. Did the bookies pay out after the Torquay 'win'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Will Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 As has been said on here many many times: We DREW the Game but WON the Cup Tie. Its not rocket science is it. The "tie" is the game though. A cup game has to be decided, you cannot draw, whether over 1 or 2 legs - the game has to be decided. It's not a league game...just because a league game is 90 minutes, doesn't mean the 90 minutes of a cup tie are all that matters. We progressed, Torquay didn't. Therefore we won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 The "tie" is the game though. A cup game has to be decided, you cannot draw, whether over 1 or 2 legs - the game has to be decided. It's not a league game...just because a league game is 90 minutes, doesn't mean the 90 minutes of a cup tie are all that matters. We progressed, Torquay didn't. Therefore we won. No it isnt. The game is 90 mins (plus added time) of open play. The tie was decided on penalties as the game was drawn. Saints won the cup tie on penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Will Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 Let me answer with a question. Little Jonny placed a £5 bet on Saints to WIN. Did the bookies pay out after the Torquay 'win'? and Mr Bookmaker will make every rule and condition up he can to avoid paying out. That's his job, to make money. Did we, or did we not go through to the next round?! It's not a case of, ok then, it was a draw but we'll let Southamptom through I suppose cuz they scored more penalties. The game had to be decided that night, and we won that night. WE WON. If Federer wins in a tie break, he wins. If Tiger wins in a playoff, he wins. If an NFL team wins in overtime, they win. A win is a win is a win. If one team progresses while the other team doesn't, they win. That's how it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Will Posted 2 December, 2009 Share Posted 2 December, 2009 No it isnt. The game is 90 mins (plus added time) of open play. The tie was decided on penalties as the game was drawn. Saints won the cup tie on penalties. No, a league game is over 90 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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