Arizona Posted 17 January, 2010 Share Posted 17 January, 2010 It's in the title, so don't moan that you haven't been warned. I know it's been done before, but it just struck me that he might be the kind of player we need in midfield alongside Morgan. I know opinion on Prutts is divided on here, but we could do with a hard working, no nonsense box to box midfielder in that mould. Not a great passer, but we've always looked better for having him in the team IMO. At the very least, surely he's a better option than Wotton if we're defending a lead and need to beef up the midfield. *Please no "the past is the past FFS!" type comments, it's a hypothetical question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 17 January, 2010 Share Posted 17 January, 2010 yes why not. does he play much for leeds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 17 January, 2010 Share Posted 17 January, 2010 It's in the title, so don't moan that you haven't been warned. I know it's been done before, but it just struck me that he might be the kind of player we need in midfield alongside Morgan. I know opinion on Prutts is divided on here, but we could do with a hard working, no nonsense box to box midfielder in that mould. Not a great passer, but we've always looked better for having him in the team IMO. At the very least, surely he's a better option than Wotton if we're defending a lead and need to beef up the midfield. *Please no "the past is the past FFS!" type comments, it's a hypothetical question. No, we need to set our sights higher. We need proper footballers that tackle, pass and attack not bit players that can only sit or pass or tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 17 January, 2010 Share Posted 17 January, 2010 If we sign another midfielder it has to be a ten goal a season midfielder who wants to get into the box at every possible chance. We need a player in the Lampard / Gerrard mould to compliment Schneiderlin. I thought Hammond was that player but he seems to be spending far more time in our own half and doesn't ever seem to arrive late in the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 17 January, 2010 Share Posted 17 January, 2010 Was wondering when you'd correct the spelling in the title, Arizona. Whilst I agree we should perhaps be aiming higher, I don't see no reason why getting Prutton on a short-term deal would be a bad bit of business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 17 January, 2010 Share Posted 17 January, 2010 I'd prefer Robbie Savage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 17 January, 2010 Share Posted 17 January, 2010 I'd have Prutton back as he would give us some bite in midfield, is a box-to-box midfielder and does actually provide a goal threat - he can also play on the right or in the middle. Bit like Hammond really! What we are lacking is a defensive/holding midfielder player who can pass the ball as well! That would allow Hammond and/or Morgan to get forward and into the box - hopefully scoring some goals. Morgan is a playmaker but he's not yet quite up to playing the defensive midfielder role - give him time though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 17 January, 2010 Share Posted 17 January, 2010 I'd have Prutton back as he would give us some bite in midfield, is a box-to-box midfielder and does actually provide a goal threat - he can also play on the right or in the middle. Bit like Hammond really! What we are lacking is a defensive/holding midfielder player who can pass the ball as well! That would allow Hammond and/or Morgan to get forward and into the box - hopefully scoring some goals. Morgan is a playmaker but he's not yet quite up to playing the defensive midfielder role - give him time though The last thing we need is to make our midfield even more defensive. We are supposed to be one of the best teams in the league and yesterday after Hammond went off we had the most defensive midfield out possible, it was ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilsburydoughboy Posted 17 January, 2010 Share Posted 17 January, 2010 Its about time we had a religious look a like in our team again.Bring him back i miss seeing him float across the puddles at Chandlers Ford Waitrose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rational Rich Posted 17 January, 2010 Share Posted 17 January, 2010 Yes yes yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 17 January, 2010 Share Posted 17 January, 2010 I'd have Prutton back as he would give us some bite in midfield, is a box-to-box midfielder and does actually provide a goal threat - he can also play on the right or in the middle. Bit like Hammond really! What we are lacking is a defensive/holding midfielder player who can pass the ball as well! That would allow Hammond and/or Morgan to get forward and into the box - hopefully scoring some goals. Morgan is a playmaker but he's not yet quite up to playing the defensive midfielder role - give him time though What we have are bit part midfielders that can only do part of the job. What we need is two driving, footballing, hard tackling, goal scoring midfielders. What we don't need are players that can only do one thing, either sitting, tackling or passing and no attacking threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 17 January, 2010 Share Posted 17 January, 2010 What we have are bit part midfielders that can only do part of the job. What we need is two driving, footballing, hard tackling, goal scoring midfielders. What we don't need are players that can only do one thing, either sitting, tackling or passing and no attacking threat. Do you know any that want to play in the 3rd division? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 17 January, 2010 Share Posted 17 January, 2010 If we sign another midfielder it has to be a ten goal a season midfielder who wants to get into the box at every possible chance. We need a player in the Lampard / Gerrard mould to compliment Schneiderlin. I thought Hammond was that player but he seems to be spending far more time in our own half and doesn't ever seem to arrive late in the box. This is what I understood Hammond was, and he started brightly. As for Prutton, what does he offer that Hammond doesn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 17 January, 2010 Share Posted 17 January, 2010 what a bizarre thread - are you related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 17 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 17 January, 2010 What we have are bit part midfielders that can only do part of the job. What we need is two driving, footballing, hard tackling, goal scoring midfielders. What we don't need are players that can only do one thing, either sitting, tackling or passing and no attacking threat. I can't remember us ever having a player like that, let alone in the 3rd division. Even in the Prem our midfielders rarely got more than 4 goals a season. Anders and Oakley didn't tackle, Telfer couldn't pass, CMFG rarely scored, Fernandes made crop circles etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 17 January, 2010 Share Posted 17 January, 2010 No. He's not very good. Wouldn't even entertain the thought. Took us far too long to get rid of him first time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 17 January, 2010 Share Posted 17 January, 2010 I would have him back but as no more than a squad player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 17 January, 2010 Share Posted 17 January, 2010 Prutton's gonna get you.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 17 January, 2010 Share Posted 17 January, 2010 This is what I understood Hammond was, and he started brightly. As for Prutton, what does he offer that Hammond doesn't? Even after he first signed he never really got into the box, he's basically Simon Gillett but about a foot taller, just like Scheniderlin there isn't a goal threat from open play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 17 January, 2010 Share Posted 17 January, 2010 Do you know any that want to play in the 3rd division? I've seen plenty of players that I think are better than we've got in all positions but not playing in the same team. As for playing in this division, playing in a winning team for more money in front of big crowds works wonders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 17 January, 2010 Share Posted 17 January, 2010 I can't remember us ever having a player like that, let alone in the 3rd division. Even in the Prem our midfielders rarely got more than 4 goals a season. Anders and Oakley didn't tackle, Telfer couldn't pass, CMFG rarely scored, Fernandes made crop circles etc. Correct and now is the time to put that right. (Wotton, Schneiderlin, Hammond, Gillett are all one trick ponies) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 17 January, 2010 Share Posted 17 January, 2010 I've seen plenty of players that I think are better than we've got in all positions but not playing in the same team. As for playing in this division, playing in a winning team for more money in front of big crowds works wonders. Ok but sticking with midfielders, which ones? The only opposition midfielder that's stood out for me this season (and this is probably me being one eyed where Saints are concerned) is Hoolahan. I think Lallana could play his role so who else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 17 January, 2010 Share Posted 17 January, 2010 Ok but sticking with midfielders, which ones? The only opposition midfielder that's stood out for me this season (and this is probably me being one eyed where Saints are concerned) is Hoolahan. I think Lallana could play his role so who else? Hoolahan is a standout. I don't think Lallana is anywhere in the same class as Hoolahan when it comes to passing and laying on goals. I've seen plenty of players that I thought were all rounders but I never bothered to remember who they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowds Posted 17 January, 2010 Share Posted 17 January, 2010 I'd **** off sneiderlin and bring in quashie, danns and or stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 17 January, 2010 Share Posted 17 January, 2010 I'd **** off sneiderlin and bring in quashie, danns and or stock Utter rubbish! Quashie is a complete waste of space. His attitude stank when he was with us. Danns is a different player altogether & Stock could compliment Morgan. Morgan is one of best players & is probably the best passer we have. Back to Prutton. I was gutted when he left - And Oakley because the replacements we had were a lot worse, but from what I hear from a few Leeds supporting clients he is their best paid player on £12k per week & he does not earn anywhere near it. So No - I wouldnt want him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowds Posted 17 January, 2010 Share Posted 17 January, 2010 Utter rubbish? How Many assists does sneiderlin have, how many goals? He'll even shots on target would do me. If he develops into a good player he'll **** off. We need players to perform here and now. I know what positions they play quashie s the sort of payer we need in there some to get 5-10 goals a year and double that in assists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 17 January, 2010 Share Posted 17 January, 2010 That's the sort of player we need yes, Quashie isn't that sort of player he's not going to get 5-10 goals and 10-20 assists a season, not a chance. If we stuck Lallana alongside Schneiderlin he might be able to do that job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 17 January, 2010 Share Posted 17 January, 2010 would ****ing love him back. Show morgan how to tackle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 17 January, 2010 Share Posted 17 January, 2010 Yes, i would have prutton back. But isn't the more important question: "has Hammond stopped playing like he did at Colchester through a simple drop in form or has pardew changed the way he naturally plays? Perhaps pardew has told him to hold back to try and help reinforce our defensive cover? Who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntingdon Posted 17 January, 2010 Share Posted 17 January, 2010 David Prutton is in the top 10 of overrated players to have ever played for Saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 17 January, 2010 Share Posted 17 January, 2010 I would have him back tomorrow, in fact I would drive all the way to Leeds to pick him up. THis is a dirty horrible **** league and we are crying out for a dirty horrible **** player to stand up in the middle and stick his boot in, break up play, and break the odd bone. Wotton should be that player but for whatever reason just isn't doing it. Prutts would fit in beautifully, with the added advantage that he is far more mobile than Wotton, and may even score a goal or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperm_john Posted 17 January, 2010 Share Posted 17 January, 2010 one word, No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 18 January, 2010 Share Posted 18 January, 2010 Was wondering when you'd correct the spelling in the title, Arizona. Whilst I agree we should perhaps be aiming higher, I don't see no reason why getting Prutton on a short-term deal would be a bad bit of business. Surely you've got that the wrong way around!? It's Morgan who was supposed to be the ball playing playmaker with goals in him. Hammond is a holding midfielder who happens to get forward when he can AND score goals too. Easily the better player. As for Prutton - I always liked him. Why? Because he played for the shirt and gave his all - he loved Saints and disliked what was happening to the club. I actually used to like listening to his radio show too. He played at the highest level (albeit briefly) and is good enough for L1 or CCC at least. Would he be right for the team now? No, because that's not the type of player we need. Stock is and if we're serious about a challenge for the play-offs we need to get someone in of that ability into midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 18 January, 2010 Share Posted 18 January, 2010 would ****ing love him back. Show morgan how to tackle and get sent off :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 18 January, 2010 Share Posted 18 January, 2010 David Prutton is in the top 10 of overrated players to have ever played for Saints but who can forget his legendary performance against Liverpool!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 18 January, 2010 Share Posted 18 January, 2010 but who can forget his legendary performance against Liverpool!!!!!!!!!! Although on the downside had he done the easy bit and actually scored in the open goal at WBA we may well have stayed in the prem, that season at least:smt021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 18 January, 2010 Share Posted 18 January, 2010 Although on the downside had he done the easy bit and actually scored in the open goal at WBA we may well have stayed in the prem, that season at least:smt021 yes sadly i was there to witness that too :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O_RLY Posted 18 January, 2010 Share Posted 18 January, 2010 one word yes. He was inconsistant, but when we beat liverpool 2-0 in the prem I remember Prutton and Crouch were awesome, and he can't have lost all of that ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 18 January, 2010 Share Posted 18 January, 2010 Good player 5 years ago. Not sure he would add anything to the team now though. For that reason I'm out!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 18 January, 2010 Share Posted 18 January, 2010 It's entirely sentimental reasons for me, but I would like him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 18 January, 2010 Share Posted 18 January, 2010 I wonder if all the people that think Prutton (at club in same league, not getting a game at all) should come back, would also reject coming back Kenwyne Jones (PL starter, wanted by 'big 4' club - but crap according to Saints fans), Ricardo Fuller (PL starter, crap according to Saints fans), Brett Ormerod (CCC starter, just ran around a bit according to Saints fans), Jason Euell (CCC starter, crap according to Saints fans).. etc etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st alex Posted 18 January, 2010 Share Posted 18 January, 2010 Its about time we had a religious look a like in our team again.Bring him back i miss seeing him float across the puddles at Chandlers Ford Waitrose. Hadn't realised he's gone for the Jesus look these days, until I googled him. He looks even more like Jesus than Jesus (Ostlund) did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 18 January, 2010 Share Posted 18 January, 2010 It's in the title, so don't moan that you haven't been warned. I know it's been done before, but it just struck me that he might be the kind of player we need in midfield alongside Morgan. I know opinion on Prutts is divided on here, but we could do with a hard working, no nonsense box to box midfielder in that mould. Not a great passer, but we've always looked better for having him in the team IMO. At the very least, surely he's a better option than Wotton if we're defending a lead and need to beef up the midfield. *Please no "the past is the past FFS!" type comments, it's a hypothetical question. I actually watched that infamous game when he was sent off. Having lost a decision about a foul ..he attacked a linesman verbally and the ref. physically... and had to be restrained by his team-mates. It resulted in a 10 match ban, when we were struggling and sorely needed his presence in the side. IMHO that ban was more of a small factor in our eventual relegation than many on here care to admit. On his day, a talented player, but has serious problems if he can't control his temper over losing a decision - nice guy maybe - but no thanks ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 18 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 18 January, 2010 I actually watched that infamous game when he was sent off. Having lost a decision about a foul ..he attacked a linesman verbally and the ref. physically... and had to be restrained by his team-mates. It resulted in a 10 match ban, when we were struggling and sorely needed his presence in the side. IMHO that ban was more of a small factor in our eventual relegation than many on here care to admit. On his day, a talented player, but has serious problems if he can't control his temper over losing a decision - nice guy maybe - but no thanks ! 10 matches was ridiculous. He got sent off initially for 2 yellow cards, so that's a 1 match ban. As I understand it shouting abuse at officials is also a booking. Pushing the ref (please don't call it a physical attack, that's just absurd) I'm not sure what the punishment is. Normally if players shove each other it's not even a booking. So we've got: 2 yellows - 1 match ban Shouting at the lino - worth another yellow, maybe a 1 match ban pushing the ref - Lets just suppose it was violent conduct, red card 3 match ban. There really was no case for anything more than a 5 match ban, max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 18 January, 2010 Share Posted 18 January, 2010 10 matches was ridiculous. He got sent off initially for 2 yellow cards, so that's a 1 match ban. As I understand it shouting abuse at officials is also a booking. Pushing the ref (please don't call it a physical attack, that's just absurd) I'm not sure what the punishment is. Normally if players shove each other it's not even a booking. So we've got: 2 yellows - 1 match ban Shouting at the lino - worth another yellow, maybe a 1 match ban pushing the ref - Lets just suppose it was violent conduct, red card 3 match ban. There really was no case for anything more than a 5 match ban, max. Maybe you didn't watch the same match as I did? He shouted at the lino and ran over to him and then pushed the ref in the chest when confronted by him. He had to be restrained by several other players and after the red card, had to be led from the pitch (I think)... by a Saints official). Pushing and shoving may have been "OK " between two players but you can't assault match officials. I totally agree that 10 matches was totally out of order, but I think the ref. must have made a bad report about him, and the FA committee looked more closely at his disciplinary record and threw the book at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 18 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 18 January, 2010 Maybe you didn't watch the same match as I did? He shouted at the lino and ran over to him and then pushed the ref in the chest when confronted by him. He had to be restrained by several other players and after the red card, had to be led from the pitch (I think)... by a Saints official). Pushing and shoving may have been "OK " between two players but you can't assault match officials. I totally agree that 10 matches was totally out of order, but I think the ref. must have made a bad report about him, and the FA committee looked more closely at his disciplinary record and threw the book at him. No, i saw exactly the same match you did. He ran over to the lino and shouted at him. That's a booking during the match and seeing as he'd already been sent off, probably worth a 1 match ban. Shoving the ref. It's not like Prutts went for him with the deliberate intention of attacking him. He stood in his way whilst Prutton was running towards the lino and he tried to push him out the way. As I said, it it's been a player it wouldn't even have been a booking. Even if you were going to go OTT and call it violent conduct, that's still only another 3 match ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT Posted 18 January, 2010 Share Posted 18 January, 2010 he was crap the first time ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 18 January, 2010 Share Posted 18 January, 2010 I have to disagree with the comments that a 10 game ban was over the top. Prutton crossed a very clear line that day. I was relieved it was only a 10 match ban - it could have been a lot worse considering Di canio got 11 match ban for his efforts. I know violent conduct comes with a 3 match ban, but all penalties should be, and by the looks of it are, doubled if directed at match officials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 18 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 18 January, 2010 I have to disagree with the comments that a 10 game ban was over the top. Prutton crossed a very clear line that day. I was relieved it was only a 10 match ban - it could have been a lot worse considering Di canio got 11 match ban for his efforts. I know violent conduct comes with a 3 match ban, but all penalties should be, and by the looks of it are, doubled if directed at match officials. Well in that case you'd be doubling nothing for the push on the ref. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rory Posted 18 January, 2010 Share Posted 18 January, 2010 Semi annual? As in you annually get semis over only ever talking about Saints post-2002? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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