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I think it will happen. Yes on paper our team looks like one of the best, but we also need to show this on the pitch.

 

I think from next season AP will know he best 11, and we will see.

 

Of course if he does not deliver next season then questions will have to be asked, and the 5 year plan looking very doubtful!

 

Winning the league would be fantastic even if league 1!!

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Thedelldays

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I think it will happen. Yes on paper our team looks like one of the best, but we also need to show this on the pitch.

 

I think from next season AP will know he best 11, and we will see.

 

Of course if he does not deliver next season then questions will have to be asked, and the 5 year plan looking very doubtful!

 

Winning the league would be fantastic even if league 1!!

you dont think that there will be more players in and out..?

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See my post in the other thread - for all the talk from the club about aiming for play-offs, I do not believe for a second that Pardew is demanding it from his players.

Next season will be a different story however. If we are not in the CCC by the start of the 11/12 season then Pardew SHOULD leave IMO.

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you dont think that there will be more players in and out..?

 

I think we will keep the squad together, and I really do not believe that we need anymore players if all the current lot our fit. We will have to see if any want away.

 

I have been impressed with the good vibe from new players, who also see the long term, and I think I can see this too. There is so much good around the club at the moment on and off the field.

 

I just feel the players we have are still here now after a minus 10 start, so I cannot see any reason to jump ship when we start on an even playing field.

 

What do you think will happen close season?

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What do you think will happen close season?

we will lose Lallana and there will be all sorts of speculation about Lambert and Morgan...whether they go or not, who knows..

 

Perry

Jadi

Wotton

Connolly

Thomas

waigo

 

will all move on (as well as shed loads others) and Pards will want to replace the numbers like he did when mellis went....we will then bring in another £2m pounds worth of players and we will again, not know who are best 11 is at the start of the season...and yep, the word gelling will be thrown around like a rag doll as an excuse..

 

we should go up next year, probably as 2nd place in the league...

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there will definately be some movement, AP was chasing a couple of CM's in january and i wouldn't be surprised if he continued to try and sign them in the off season because i believe we are definately 1 CM short, as for players leaving i could see a couple of fringe players leaving but nothing major.

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we will lose Lallana and there will be all sorts of speculation about Lambert and Morgan...whether they go or not, who knows..

 

Perry

Jadi

Wotton

Connolly

Thomas

waigo

 

will all move on (as well as shed loads others) and Pards will want to replace the numbers like he did when mellis went....we will then bring in another £2m pounds worth of players and we will again, not know who are best 11 is at the start of the season...and yep, the word gelling will be thrown around like a rag doll as an excuse..

 

we should go up next year, probably as 2nd place in the league...

 

thats a depressing thought if we lose those 3, 23 goals short and 2 of our best 3 midfielders...great!!!;)

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we will lose Lallana and there will be all sorts of speculation about Lambert and Morgan...whether they go or not, who knows..

 

Perry

Jadi

Wotton

Connolly

Thomas

waigo

 

will all move on (as well as shed loads others) and Pards will want to replace the numbers like he did when mellis went....we will then bring in another £2m pounds worth of players and we will again, not know who are best 11 is at the start of the season...and yep, the word gelling will be thrown around like a rag doll as an excuse..

 

we should go up next year, probably as 2nd place in the league...

 

I really do not think there will be that much movement at the end of the season, but of course no one can tell. I think Lallana will stay for another season and I cannot see Lambert and Morgan moving on.

 

I think Perry, Wotton, and Connolly can do a bit part job for us in league 1.

 

I think if Waigo picks up a bit he will stay, but we will see on that one.

 

That leaves Thomas.....

 

I hope that the main core of the team stay together, and that is the job of the manager. If he did not see the players in his plans for next season he should have shifted them out.

 

There cannot be an excuses for next season!!

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I think Alan Pardew will be judged on the next 3 months by Cortese. As a result of the expenditure, if these players under Pardew aren't demonstrating the kind of play and results that will win the league next season it is my opinion that there will be a change.

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I think Alan Pardew will be judged on the next 3 months by Cortese. As a result of the expenditure, if these players under Pardew aren't demonstrating the kind of play and results that will win the league next season it is my opinion that there will be a change.

 

I quite agree. People are taking this building business to far and using it as an excuse for Pardew. What do people think will happen if we only win one of the first five next season?

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Play offs are a good bet next season.

 

I think a few teams will surprise us next year. Huddersfield are building a good squad (inexperienced manager ... he'll learn) and Brentford have got cash to splash in the close season thanks to Matthew Benham. And i've got a feeling Charlton are still going to be around. Can't see any of the championship bottom 3 causing us problems next year i they come down.

 

I'm hoping Notts County come up. That's one ground i've never been to. Mushy peas and mint sauce!!!

 

Happy days will return soon :)

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to be fair there won't be the 10 point deduction and the team will have a year of playing together. however they have played for 6 months and should be able to beat the likes of exeter...but thats football!!

 

So should Leeds be able to beat Exeter but they didn't. Yes, that is football. C'mon.. We are second in the Form Table behind Norwich during a spell when we have completely changed the back four AND we have played 2 more away games than home whereas others sitting in the top 6 have played more at home or at least the same. If we keep up current form we will get another 42 points. Playoffs if that happens.

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I think Alan Pardew will be judged on the next 3 months by Cortese. As a result of the expenditure, if these players under Pardew aren't demonstrating the kind of play and results that will win the league next season it is my opinion that there will be a change.

 

I don't believe for a second that success comes from trying shuffling the players around until you find your best 11, which is bandied about here. AP hasn't got a conviction about what type of football he wants to play, and another three months isn't going to change that.

 

I sincerely hope that before we shuffle AP out of and XX into the managerial chair, NC makes reality of the prospective sporting director to make some decisions about what football this club is to play, and then appoint a manager who fits that bill. If not we are continously taking pot luck at the future like we have done for years. This is not a decision that can be taken by the temporary manager (they are all temporary).

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Play offs are a good bet next season.

 

I think a few teams will surprise us next year. Huddersfield are building a good squad (inexperienced manager ... he'll learn) and Brentford have got cash to splash in the close season thanks to Matthew Benham. And i've got a feeling Charlton are still going to be around. Can't see any of the championship bottom 3 causing us problems next year i they come down.

 

I'm hoping Notts County come up. That's one ground i've never been to. Mushy peas and mint sauce!!!

 

Happy days will return soon :)

 

TBH I reckon Saints would bottle it in the play offs. So we really need to aim for the top two.

 

Charlton if they're still here will be in administration and have -10 so that puts them out of the question imho. I fancy Huddersfield for play off promotion this season, Swindon will be ones to watch next season.

 

That leaves the sides who come down, I reckon it will be Peterborough and Plymouth. Not sure on a 3rd but these are two who I can't see being promotion contenders.

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St Lightjaw

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Because you don't proof read. HTH ;)

 

 

 

I do! But the interweb gods curse me! (plus my f key is sticky .... ooh err!!!)

 

Anyway, for my fellow saints fans who want to make a bit of money next season (I don't make a bad living from it), take the emotion away (which is hard to do ..... COYR!!), and look at which clubs invest well. I'm not talking about transfer fees, but look at the wage budgets and who the managers are of each club and who they have brought in (loans/frees).

 

Bookies know the horses ... they think they know football, but like most pundits, they look at ££££ spent in transfer fees. Some are getting wiser to it, but lower leagues is our bread and butter :)

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Well ignoring the minus ten for a minute i'm pretty sure we will gain the same amount of points as the teams in the playoffs.

 

So how it can be quite so difficult to imagine we could go from a team who scores enough points to get a playoff place one season to a team that gets automatic promotion the following season is pretty beyond me.

 

Then of course we have all the usual stuff like having a decent settled pre season, further strengthening of the squad, a set of players gelling, etc, etc. which of course is discussed to death and often dismissed by some on here who can't wring any pleasure from their lives.

 

I refuse to be dragged down into negativity over this season off the back of some poor form. We're 90 minutes away from a trip to Wembley come Tuesday night and have a real humdinger in the visit of Pompey next week. Fantastic stuff! A playoff finish would have been pretty amazing but i'm not that impatient. And we'll do it in true style next season which as you say would be one hell of a way to celebrate our 125 years in existence.

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Maybe I'm being too relaxed after the past few years, but compared to what we've had in recent years this isn't poor form we're showing!

 

I know we're not doing as well as we would like away from home, but I really think we need to get a little perspective on it all. I really believe that we will win promotion next season (I think it's a bit beyond us this season), and that Pardew will be the man to guide us back to the Championship.

 

I wasn't at Exeter, but from what I've read regarding the match, the second half, the pitch etc etc, this is the kind of game that in previous seasons we'd have completely thrown away and came away from with a loss rather than holding on to the point. That in itself is positive progress in my view.

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have we..?

 

No, we haven't ever been top of the form table for an extended period.

 

We're having a good season because of the cup runs, if we had lost that shootout to Torquay and Bristol Rover beat us in the cup we would all be calling for Pardews head imo.

 

He needs to sort things out, we've got enough quality in the squad to get out of the league now it's up to the management.

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No, we haven't ever been top of the form table for an extended period.

 

We're having a good season because of the cup runs, if we had lost that shootout to Torquay and Bristol Rover beat us in the cup we would all be calling for Pardews head imo.

 

He needs to sort things out, we've got enough quality in the squad to get out of the league now it's up to the management.

 

Like you say, it's up to management. But management has already shown not to have any conviction of how this team should play football. And if AP isn't too sure, how could we expect any confidence from the players? The 11 who are sent out to do battle needs to be certain about how that battle is to be fought, i.e. they need a shape to play within to become a 'team' and not just 11 individuals.

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how sweet would that be in our 125th year celebration

 

however, cant see it with the current form over this season

I am amazed some are saying it will happen...??

 

Lol - we will be red hot favourites to win the league at a canter next season, and quite rightly.

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I wasn't at Exeter, but from what I've read regarding the match, the second half, the pitch etc etc, this is the kind of game that in previous seasons we'd have completely thrown away and came away from with a loss rather than holding on to the point. That in itself is positive progress in my view.

 

100% correct.

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I wasn't at Exeter, but from what I've read regarding the match, the second half, the pitch etc etc, this is the kind of game that in previous seasons we'd have completely thrown away and came away from with a loss rather than holding on to the point. That in itself is positive progress in my view.

 

 

But don`t let that get in the way of a good moan about how ****e we are

and our manager can`t cut it.:rolleyes:

 

There are NO EXCUSES for the fact we are not winning every game easily because we have spent a lot of cash, because football is an exact science and our chairman demands instant success.

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how sweet would that be in our 125th year celebration

 

however, cant see it with the current form over this season

I am amazed some are saying it will happen...??

 

You are assuming far too much

 

For a start, NEXT season, if we are still in DIVISION ONE, How many of the current players will still be with us

 

I have said before, and I'll say again, a lot of the current squad WILL NOT want another season in what is after all, the THIRD Division of English Football

 

We have players that are of CCC standard, and they will want to go back there IMHO:cool:

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You are assuming far too much

 

For a start, NEXT season, if we are still in DIVISION ONE, How many of the current players will still be with us

 

I have said before, and I'll say again, a lot of the current squad WILL NOT want another season in what is after all, the THIRD Division of English Football

 

We have players that are of CCC standard, and they will want to go back there IMHO:cool:

 

I'd say we only have maybe 3 or 4 who are CCC standard. Lambert, Lallana, Davis and Fonte.

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Maybe I'm being too relaxed after the past few years, but compared to what we've had in recent years this isn't poor form we're showing!

 

I know we're not doing as well as we would like away from home, but I really think we need to get a little perspective on it all. I really believe that we will win promotion next season (I think it's a bit beyond us this season), and that Pardew will be the man to guide us back to the Championship.

 

I wasn't at Exeter, but from what I've read regarding the match, the second half, the pitch etc etc, this is the kind of game that in previous seasons we'd have completely thrown away and came away from with a loss rather than holding on to the point. That in itself is positive progress in my view.

 

Quite right. Also 2 defeats in 26 games, when in the last two seasons we've been losing the majority of our games. I'd say shaking off that losing habit is definitely a sign of progress

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which is probably more than abour 21 teams in league 1

 

The point is, our squad isn't going to leave en mass to play in a higher League. Lallana maybe, but the other three all signed for us in League 1 knowing we had the 10 point deduction this season. Can't see why they'd jump ship now.

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The dyanimics of League One will change so much during the course of this season and the close-season so it's hard to say whether we will be front-runners for L1 next season.

 

Not only will relegated Championship clubs look to strengthen and adjust their squads for an immediate rebound back to the 2nd tier but existing clubs will also do the same - including ourselves.

 

With that in mind, this seasonal turnaround of staff will also effect ourselves. Will we be able to keep Lallana? Schneiderlein? Lambert? I wish I knew the answer to this question, but sadly I do not. I'd like to think the aforementioned players will feel a sense of loyalty and a feeling that they are at a club on the up... but players get itchy feet, just as we are getting itchy and irritated because we haven't progressed as quickly as we'd have hoped.

 

However, it is a necessity that we are among the favourites next season to return to the Championship, irrespective of the squad possibly losing one or two of our most coveted players.

 

It's not a case of whether we will be any more - it's a case we HAVE to be, or face losing ground and immersing ourselves in a rut.

 

I trust ML and NC will not be contented with just another middling year in the backwaters of English football. If we don't sneak in this year we must be among the leaders next year. We must.

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I think we won't go up this season, but with Leeds Norwich and Charlton all going up, we can spend some more money in the summer to ensure we are the best team in this league next year then without the -10 point start we should win the league.

 

i don't think charlton will go up tbh, they'll just drift away as the season goes on and lose out in the playoff semis . - What the future holds for them after that, god knows. I don't think they'll be much of a force in this league next year.

 

I don't think we need to spend much more money in the summer though, as long as we keep the core of this team together - maybe put a decent bid in for a central midfielder, and get another striker on loan but that'll be it for me.

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We do need to get some really ugly players in though. Look at Leeds, they've got ugly players in abundence - shaven headed, tattooed, ugly thugs. We've got too many pretty boy players with way too much hair and no tattoos and who like to play proper football but unfortunately these are not the type of players needed to get out of this division. You need the ugly ones to grind out those last minute 1-0's away from home. Leeds have won a lot of games this season with very late goals.

The football can come back in the CCC.

 

Ugliness, shaven heads and tattoos is what we need.;)

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i don't think charlton will go up tbh, they'll just drift away as the season goes on and lose out in the playoff semis . - What the future holds for them after that, god knows. I don't think they'll be much of a force in this league next year.

 

I don't think we need to spend much more money in the summer though, as long as we keep the core of this team together - maybe put a decent bid in for a central midfielder, and get another striker on loan but that'll be it for me.

 

i hope your right and charlton don't go up, we can make a move for shelvey and persuade him to come here!

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i don't think charlton will go up tbh, they'll just drift away as the season goes on and lose out in the playoff semis . - What the future holds for them after that, god knows. I don't think they'll be much of a force in this league next year.

 

 

How are they a force this season?

 

Same team that was relegated, players that dont want to be there, off field and boardroom unrest, spent no money, danger of admin ect ect (sound familiar)

 

If they do finish in the top 6 then Phil Parkinson is a candidate for manager of the year.

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I think the recession and the fact most ccc sides are broke will play into our favour for next season.look at how depressed the transfer market was in January.Very few ccc will come knocking for our players they will be looking to pick up frees

 

Most sides will not be able to afford Lambert,Lallana,Schneiderlin etc and we dont need to sell.We might be able to pick up a few more frees like Jaidi,Connelly etc from premiership and ccc sides.We will be a highly attractive side to join in the summer outside the prem as we will be favourites by a country mile to win this league next season with the resources we have got.

 

If we were to lose a couple of players we now have the resources to buy decent replacements.I do think there will be another 4/5 decent additions to our squad in the summer with all the deadwood or certainly most of it moved on.We will add more players to ensure we have a core squad capable of destroying this division like AP said he wanted to.

 

Currently proven by the Exeter game we still have more rebuilding to do imho to ensure we finish top 2 next season,ML & NC will not be taking any chances of not succeeding next season

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