Claridge on Alan P

[doddisalegend]

I know he's a skate but I think he has hit the nail on the head with his summing up of AP at Southampton. In effect could be doing a little better but should get his 18 months. Seems to be what a lot on here including myself have said.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/8533781.stm

[John B]

I know he's a skate but I think he has hit the nail on the head with his summing up of AP at Southampton. In effect could be doing a little better but should get his 18 months. Seems to be what a lot on here including myself have said.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/8533781.stm

 

Yes I agree

 

So thats that

[Window Cleaner]

Yes I agree

 

So thats that

 

 

 

I'm not at all sure that he will get 18 months, should do perhaps but I think NC will cut the losses if we don't get better results against bad sides.

We shall have to see.To me AP needs another 12 or 13 wins to be sure of his future here.

[doddisalegend]

I think 18 months is fair. To be honest I'm not sure we're having so many bad results win at home and draw away and you get your magic two points a game. Problem is we drew so many home games early on. Next year I don't expect us to draw so many home games, so the away draws we're getting this year would be o.k. (although winning is better naturally). I think our run of home games is important now. If we can show that St Mary's will/is becoming a fortress it bodes well for next season.

Edited 25 February, 2010 by doddisalegend

[PaulSaint]

I really hope Harry Redknapp gets 18 months?

[VectisSaint]

I really hope Harry Redknapp gets 18 months?

Hoping Arry gets a lot more than 18 months, and Mandic and Storrie Teller as well.

What has AP done to warrant getting 18 months? Didn't even know he had been arrested.

[sammysaint]

AP is doing a good job if we finish within 10 points of 6th and we win the jpt he will keep his job.

[Window Cleaner]

AP is doing a good job if we finish within 10 points of 6th and we win the jpt he will keep his job.

 

I really doubt that to be honest. AP has been allowed to spend quite a lot of money (and a whole lot for our division) with just 1 proviso...make the play-offs this season, it's well documented. If we don't do that he will as likely as not be

dismissed.Whether that's the right attitude or the wrong attitude I just couldn't say, it's probably what will happen.

[Kevo7]

Why are we talking about him keeping his job? Its ridiculous. We need a bit of stability, surely we've learned that? Otherwise we'll end up like QPR

[Window Cleaner]

Why are we talking about him keeping his job? Its ridiculous. We need a bit of stability, surely we've learned that? Otherwise we'll end up like QPR

 

 

there's good stability and bad stability.If the manager hasn't achieved the goals set out for him and for which he has obtained funds then it's just as likely that he won't get a second chance. Our top management want results,AP hasn't provided them consistently enough and may well pay the price.He has done no better than many other "lesser" managers with more money and in theory better players. I really don't know how the ambitious owner and his CEO will take that.

[Badger]

I think we'll need a very good run this season for him to keep his job. If we finish where we are now he'll most likely be gone.

I realise this is your view of what might happen rather than what you necessarily want but it begs the question to be replaced with who,or what ?

 

I think we'd struggle to find a manager with AP's decent track record who still seems capable of doing a good job (rather than a washed up former name looking for another pay day eg of the Burley ilk).

 

If we go down the sacking after a season route again,ending up with a Curbishley for example (who fits my criteria for the Burley ilk by the way) then we deserve a few seasons of non-achievement and no progress.

 

Why are we talking about him keeping his job? Its ridiculous. We need a bit of stability, surely we've learned that? Otherwise we'll end up like QPR

 

So,blindingly obvious is'nt it ?Yet some seem to have forgotten how well Rupert's revolving door served us.

[eelpie]

I'm not at all sure that he will get 18 months, should do perhaps but I think NC will cut the losses if we don't get better results against bad sides.

We shall have to see.To me AP needs another 12 or 13 wins to be sure of his future here.

 

Another OTT.

AP has been dealing with different weaknesses as the season has developed. We are still reaping the disadvantage of an almost total team rebuild. Yes we are not yet resolving how to cope with stubborn teams on plough fields, and perhaps we should be studying and learning how the likes of Leeds and Naarwich deal with them. People forget how tiring it is playing on a bog. You try running on a soggy ploughed field for ninety minutes. It is easy to say that they are pros and that is their job, but undoubtedly the match at City on Saturday three days earlier affected stamina. Before demanding the 18 months chop see how AP's team learns to address similar challenges. He has others.

 

Ever since Ashkam disposed of Allen Ball fifteen years ago we have gone downhill because of a never ending succession of managers, and squad changes. Haven't you learned anything?

[AndyNorthernSaints]

Why are we talking about him keeping his job? Its ridiculous. We need a bit of stability, surely we've learned that? Otherwise we'll end up like QPR

 

Some fans don't like to see a manager in place for a whole season( not happened at Saints for a while). They would probably only be happy if we had a different manager every month :-(

[Window Cleaner]

Another OTT.

AP has been dealing with different weaknesses as the season has developed. We are still reaping the disadvantage of an almost total team rebuild. Yes we are not yet resolving how to cope with stubborn teams on plough fields, and perhaps we should be studying and learning how the likes of Leeds and Naarwich deal with them. People forget how tiring it is playing on a bog. You try running on a soggy ploughed field for ninety minutes. It is easy to say that they are pros and that is their job, but undoubtedly the match at City on Saturday three days earlier affected stamina. Before demanding the 18 months chop see how AP's team learns to address similar challenges. He has others.

 

Ever since Ashkam disposed of Allen Ball fifteen years ago we have gone downhill because of a never ending succession of managers, and squad changes. Haven't you learned anything?

 

OTT?

 

It's not how I see it or how you see it ,it's about how the Chairman sees it and as I say I'm not sure that he will give AP 18 months because that will put us into the middle of next season.The fans do not decide on the manager's tenure, the chairman does in consultation with the owner. If their objectives aren't being met then they will act accordingly ie Hughes at Man C.

[Under Weststand]

That seems like a very fair assessment by Claridge, and about right to. I for 1 don't want to see him go. but with NC's comments the other day, I think AP needs to get the team performing week in week out, not this stuttering form were in at the moment.

[rolosfc]

All this talk of will Pardew be given 18 months is ridiculous IMO. Yes he has spent money but most of his signings have/hopefully will pay off. We desperately need stability at this club, the lack of this has been our downfall in the last 10 years. Give him his 18 months at least, JPT final win and a late push to get relatively close to the play offs will set us up fantastically for next season.

 

COYR

[SaintRichmond]

I think 18 months is fair. To be honest I'm not sure we're having so many bad results win at home and draw away and you get your magic two points a game. Problem is we drew so many home games early on. Next year I don't expect us to draw so many home games, so the away draws we're getting this year would be o.k. (although winning is better naturally). I think our run of home games is important now. If we can show that St Mary's will/is becoming a fortress it bodes well for next season.

 

That may be so, but just look at the sides we lose points to

 

A great win at Norwich, who are TOP of the table, followed by a draw at Wycombe, who were virtually BOTTOM

 

THAT IS BAD

 

Pardew has NOT installed any STEEL into the team

 

A lot on here go on about it was too much to ask re Promotion THIS season

 

To that I say BO**OCKS, I don't think Leibherr/Cortese would agree with that, they wanted Promotion THIS season

 

Just go through our results this season. We have given away points to RUBBISH sides. and those RUBBISH results are going to cost us a Top Six finish

 

Pardew's Team has UNDERACHIEVED, you cannot deny that fact:cool:

[SaintRichmond]

All this talk of will Pardew be given 18 months is ridiculous IMO. Yes he has spent money but most of his signings have/hopefully will pay off. We desperately need stability at this club, the lack of this has been our downfall in the last 10 years. Give him his 18 months at least, JPT final win and a late push to get relatively close to the play offs will set us up fantastically for next season.

 

COYR

 

 

Question. How many of the current Team will want to have another season in DIVISION ONE .... ie the THIRD level of UK Football ???:cool:

[Arizona]

Can't believe people are talking about getting rid of Pardew at the end of the season. He barely had a preseason to prepare himself and was still building his squad until about a month ago. Look at the team that drew with Millwall on the opening day.

 

Davis, Murty, Thomas, Perry, Harding, James, Lallana, Wotton, Schneiderlin, Saganowski, Paterson, Gillett, Gobern, Thomson.

 

Of those 14 players used, only 5 played against Wycombe and 2 of them came on as subs.

[Horley CTFC Saint]

Some fans don't like to see a manager in place for a whole season( not happened at Saints for a while). They would probably only be happy if we had a different manager every month :-(

Thats a good idea the club could hold a monthly raffle with the winner getting to manage the team for a month - could be a nice little earner given the number of people on here that reckon they could do a better job - £5 quid a throw should bring in enough to pay the players wages on a monthly basis

[Saint_clark]

I really doubt that to be honest. AP has been allowed to spend quite a lot of money (and a whole lot for our division) with just 1 proviso...make the play-offs this season, it's well documented. If we don't do that he will as likely as not be

dismissed.Whether that's the right attitude or the wrong attitude I just couldn't say, it's probably what will happen.

 

Sorry, but that is rubbish. Cortese made one comment about how league results should be better (we ALL agree on that) and all of a sudden Pardew has to make the play-offs or he's gone?

[rick1976.4.38]

can i just say did alex ferguson get utd where they are in 18 months,no.get off aps back,lets have some stability at saints and support him,i for one am 100% behind ap.onwards and upwards,coyr

[BadgerBadger]

Good article and pretty much sums up the views on here taking if you even out the polarised views.

 

I agree that AP should be given time but I think he will be given the boot if we're in a similar postiion this time next year and I wouldn't be complaining too much. I really want him to succeed though as I'm after a bit of stability.

[SaintRichmond]

can i just say did alex ferguson get utd where they are in 18 months,no.get off aps back,lets have some stability at saints and support him,i for one am 100% behind ap.onwards and upwards,coyr

 

 

OK. The squad we NOW have SHOULD get Promotion NEXT season

 

but only IF the players STAY

 

I cannot see many of the current First Team wanting another season in Div 1

 

If, as I suspect, there is an exodus of players that do not want another season in Div 1, then that will knock down all that Pardew has built up ..... and, as Manager, it will be HIS fault that HIS side failed this season

 

Nothing is ever going to convince me that Cortese wanted nothing less than Promotion THIS season

 

WHY does everybody think that the players will want another season to rot in Division 1

 

we will still have to play Krap Teams, on Krap ploughed fields, and most likely with the same end result

 

I know Pardew came in late, but, be honest, he has had a pretty good Team for quite a while now, yet we have dropped STUPID points far far too often:cool:

[John B]

Can't believe people are talking about getting rid of Pardew at the end of the season. He barely had a preseason to prepare himself and was still building his squad until about a month ago. Look at the team that drew with Millwall on the opening day.

 

Davis, Murty, Thomas, Perry, Harding, James, Lallana, Wotton, Schneiderlin, Saganowski, Paterson, Gillett, Gobern, Thomson.

 

Of those 14 players used, only 5 played against Wycombe and 2 of them came on as subs.

 

Although I agree with you Pardew should be given a chance I am not sure that he is the man to lead us to the Premier League

 

So far 6/10 because with the Squad we have results should be better

Edited 25 February, 2010 by John B

[krissyboy31]

I really hope Harry Redknapp gets 18 months?

 

I'd rather he got 18 years. Now that's a contract he really has earned for himself!

[doddisalegend]

That may be so, but just look at the sides we lose points to

 

A great win at Norwich, who are TOP of the table, followed by a draw at Wycombe, who were virtually BOTTOM

THAT IS BAD

 

Pardew has NOT installed any STEEL into the team

 

A lot on here go on about it was too much to ask re Promotion THIS season

 

To that I say BO**OCKS, I don't think Leibherr/Cortese would agree with that, they wanted Promotion THIS season

 

Just go through our results this season. We have given away points to RUBBISH sides. and those RUBBISH results are going to cost us a Top Six finish

 

Pardew's Team has UNDERACHIEVED, you cannot deny that fact:cool:

 

But we've taken four points of both them. We would all like to win every match but no team does that. Win at home draw away and we are close to the top of the table. We haven't done that this season, mostly becuase our early home form let us down (to many draws, not losses but draws) I'm not worried becuase I know why we where drawing a lot at home. Now we are winning our home games getting draws away is not the end of the world.

 

Also I believe it was possibly (it's not as you say well documented the messages have changed as the season has gone on) the play offs this season rather than promotion which would have meant a top two finish which would be very difficult with -10 pts.

[eelpie]

I suspect the same people who want to change a manager every 18 months or so if we are not in sight of the Premiership/Chamionship are the same who expect the manager to live locally. (Remember the chorus of disapproval because GB didn't live near Southampton when he first came here?)

[AndyNorthernSaints]

Thats a good idea the club could hold a monthly raffle with the winner getting to manage the team for a month - could be a nice little earner given the number of people on here that reckon they could do a better job - £5 quid a throw should bring in enough to pay the players wages on a monthly basis

 

Good idea. Glasgow Saint has already stated he can do a better job than Pardew so he can have the first go. Might have to attend a game though? We can then all call for his head after 45 minutes of his first game if Saints are not winning 4-0 against a side wih no money or any right to be on the same pitch as Saints :-)

[Window Cleaner]

But we've taken four points of both them. We would all like to win every match but no team does that. Win at home draw away and we are close to the top of the table. We haven't done that this season, mostly becuase our early home form let us down (to many draws, not losses but draws) I'm not worried becuase I know why we where drawing a lot at home. Now we are winning our home games getting draws away is not the end of the world.

 

Also I believe it was possibly (it's not as you say well documented the messages have changed as the season has gone on) the play offs this season rather than promotion which would have meant a top two finish which would be very difficult with -10 pts.

 

 

 

lets get this straight. Our results are OK, but they are only on a par with those of Swindon who have a team made out of odds and ends from here and there. We have spent a lot of money to obtain similar results as teams who have spent absolutely sweet fanny adams. It's not the results in themselves which will put Pardew's tenure into question but the means deployed to obtain them. If we had a striker from Poole Town and not 2 blokes who cost about 1.2 million £ our results would be absolutely spot on.

It's the fact that we can't get better results than Swindon and Huddersfield that is all important. I have absolutely no idea how it will turn out, I hope we get a run of wins but I can see NC blowing AP away because of too little costing too much.

[St Landrew]

I thought Claridgge's assessment of AP was a fair one.

[Saint_clark]

 

Nothing is ever going to convince me that Cortese wanted nothing less than Promotion THIS season - How about the five year plan they announced at the start of the season?

 

WHY does everybody think that the players will want another season to rot in Division 1 - Because every single one of them signed when it looked unlikely we would get promoted. Without fail. They all knew that another season in League One was a possibility.

 

 

 

There ya go.

[SaintRichmond]

But we've taken four points of both them. We would all like to win every match but no team does that. Win at home draw away and we are close to the top of the table. We haven't done that this season, mostly becuase our early home form let us down (to many draws, not losses but draws) I'm not worried becuase I know why we where drawing a lot at home. Now we are winning our home games getting draws away is not the end of the world.

 

Also I believe it was possibly (it's not as you say well documented the messages have changed as the season has gone on) the play offs this season rather than promotion which would have meant a top two finish which would be very difficult with -10 pts.

 

I agree, our early season form let us down

 

But I do not class

Brentford (A)

Exeter (A)

Wycombe (A)

 

as "early"season, but we dropped points against them, and I consider those Teams as beatable with the squad Pardew had

 

That is just six dropped point. There are others if you care to look

[The Angel Gabriel]

There ya go.

 

But if some of those players are playing well and attract offers from Championship or Prem, they are likely to accept. That'll bugger up plans for next season. If this happens, the answer should not be to sack AP. I think NC is sensible enough to realise that.

[Saint_clark]

I agree, our early season form let us down

 

But I do not class

Brentford (A)

Exeter (A)

Wycombe (A)

 

as "early"season, but we dropped points against them, and I consider those Teams as beatable with the squad Pardew had

 

That is just six dropped point. There are others if you care to look

 

He said the early HOME form let us down. He also said win your home games and draw your away games and you will be near the top, which is correct.

[Saint_clark]

But if some of those players are playing well and attract offers from Championship or Prem, they are likely to accept. That'll bugger up plans for next season. If this happens, the answer should not be to sack AP. I think NC is sensible enough to realise that.

 

We don't have to sell them though. I don't believe any of the players we have are unprofessional enough to do a Kenwyne.

[Clifford Nelson]

I don't know if there was anybody with football knowledge present when AP was interviewed, and if it wasn't, then maybe the right questions weren't asked, and maybe there wasn't time either. We need to remember the comparative panic at the time to get a manager in and a team out to play the first game. From the poor start we have done very well.

 

But NC seems to be a quick and astute learner, and he is now maybe starting to ask the questions which weren't on his mind before. If the answers aren't palatable then he is not likely to hang on another six months or a year for a very simple reason: If a manager is the wrong choice then another six months or a year is not going to make a difference.

 

I sincerely hope that we are not going to appoint and discard as before, until we have firmly established what we want. If AP is what we want in the long term he is likely to stay, if not, then I hope not too much time is wasted. Time is only a good thing if what you are using it for is the right thing to start with.

[SaintRichmond]

Nothing is ever going to convince me that Cortese wanted nothing less than Promotion THIS season - How about the five year plan they announced at the start of the season?

 

WHY does everybody think that the players will want another season to rot in Division 1 - Because every single one of them signed when it looked unlikely we would get promoted. Without fail. They all knew that another season in League One was a possibility

 

There ya go.

 

 

The Five Year Plan ???? Three scenario's

1) It can happen as planned

2) It can happen BEFORE the Five years, ie ahead of Plan

3) It can happen AFTER the Five years, ie behind Plan

 

(In ANY Industry, Plans rarely run to schedule)

 

Asregards Players staying for another Div 1 season

It is light years ago that Contracts are worth anything other than lighting a fire with

 

Therefore, it does NOT mean that the players WILL stick around for another season in Division 1 IMHO

[up and away]

Originally Posted by Window Cleaner

I'm not at all sure that he will get 18 months, should do perhaps but I think NC will cut the losses if we don't get better results against bad sides.

We shall have to see.To me AP needs another 12 or 13 wins to be sure of his future here.

Another OTT.

AP has been dealing with different weaknesses as the season has developed. We are still reaping the disadvantage of an almost total team rebuild. Yes we are not yet resolving how to cope with stubborn teams on plough fields, and perhaps we should be studying and learning how the likes of Leeds and Naarwich deal with them. People forget how tiring it is playing on a bog. You try running on a soggy ploughed field for ninety minutes. It is easy to say that they are pros and that is their job, but undoubtedly the match at City on Saturday three days earlier affected stamina. Before demanding the 18 months chop see how AP's team learns to address similar challenges. He has others.

 

Ever since Ashkam disposed of Allen Ball fifteen years ago we have gone downhill because of a never ending succession of managers, and squad changes. Haven't you learned anything?

 

What an absolutely dumb post. If Pardew cannot demonstrate being able to overcome the minnows of this league, you believe that Cortese should plough on into next season without that point being addressed? When you consider that Lambert inherited a far worse position at Norwich with even less time, it just makes a total mockery of your argument. Then to factor in the massive resources we have applied to the problem, makes ManC frugal in proportion. You have so many teams in this league without a pot to **** in, our financial advantage is totally staggering, allowing us to go to nigh on any competitor in this league and buy their best player.

 

Pardew has definitely underperformed, finding ourselves with the same problem still present today. I find Pardew very frustrating, done some very good things but keeps repeating similar errors, that only a reset with a cricket bat appears a viable solution. I fully accept that Pardew could still be the man, but unless he can clearly demonstate that before the season end, it would be smart to get rid of him then. By your own logic you believe the manager should be given sufficient time to prepare his own team, but you are prepared to wreck that by extending Pardews disappointing tenure.

[SaintRichmond]

He said the early HOME form let us down. He also said win your home games and draw your away games and you will be near the top, which is correct.

 

I know what he said ..... he was referring to our early form when we did not have the Players Pardew has now drafted in

 

My point was, that with those players that Pardew has since drafted in, we are STILL dropping points against teams we SHOULD be beating,

 

IF we had picked up those "extra" points from the three matches I mentioned, that would have gone a long way to negating the poor early season form mentioned

[doddisalegend]

I agree, our early season form let us down

 

But I do not class

Brentford (A)

Exeter (A)

Wycombe (A)

 

as "early"season, but we dropped points against them, and I consider those Teams as beatable with the squad Pardew had

 

That is just six dropped point. There are others if you care to look

 

Yes we dropped points but we

beat exeter at home = 4 points

beat Wycombe at home = 4 points

Brentford have to play us at home could be another four points

 

and thats all we need to do. Our problem this season is those teams we let of the hook early on like Colchester at home, or Milwall at home, or Brighton at home or Bristol Rovers at home.

 

There is a difference between wanting and thinking we should beat them and having to beat them. None of the teams in this division will roll over becuase our squad cost more Exeter have beaten Leeds, Wycombe have beaten Millwall (twice) Brentford have held Leeds, Charlton and Norwich at home I believe.

[RonManager]

we've played brentford home an away - 2 points.

[doddisalegend]

we've played brentford home an away - 2 points.

 

You're right so long ago I forgot, but just goes to prove my point to many draws early on has ****ed us. We are not actually losing many matches we just nedd to turn those draws into wins, at home I really excpect us to win now against anybody, away from home not so much.

[SaintRichmond]

What an absolutely dumb post. If Pardew cannot demonstrate being able to overcome the minnows of this league, you believe that Cortese should plough on into next season without that point being addressed? When you consider that Lambert inherited a far worse position at Norwich with even less time, it just makes a total mockery of your argument. Then to factor in the massive resources we have applied to the problem, makes ManC frugal in proportion. You have so many teams in this league without a pot to **** in, our financial advantage is totally staggering, allowing us to go to nigh on any competitor in this league and buy their best player.

 

Pardew has definitely underperformed, finding ourselves with the same problem still present today. I find Pardew very frustrating, done some very good things but keeps repeating similar errors, that only a reset with a cricket bat appears a viable solution. I fully accept that Pardew could still be the man, but unless he can clearly demonstate that before the season end, it would be smart to get rid of him then. By your own logic you believe the manager should be given sufficient time to prepare his own team, but you are prepared to wreck that by extending Pardews disappointing tenure.

 

Best point of all

 

Lambert at Norwich..... hammered them in the first match when Colchester Boss, then "turned" Norwich around PDQ

 

Oh yes, and Colchester aren't doing too bad are they, with all the MASSIVE rebuilding funds they had at their disposal

 

With what Pardew has, we SHOULD be much closer to the Top Six than we are

 

Cortese recognised that fact, and it is about time that many on here realised it as well

 

Leibherr/Cortese has allowed Pardew to build a Team to get us out of Div 1

but the Team Pardew built is FAILING TO DELIVER

 

It is no use saying that (on paper) we have a Team capable of doing well in the CCC, we have to get out of Div 1 first, playing on grounds no better than a Sunday morning pitch, but THAT is what is is like in Div 1:cool:

[CB Fry]

lets get this straight. Our results are OK, but they are only on a par with those of Swindon who have a team made out of odds and ends from here and there. We have spent a lot of money to obtain similar results as teams who have spent absolutely sweet fanny adams. It's not the results in themselves which will put Pardew's tenure into question but the means deployed to obtain them. If we had a striker from Poole Town and not 2 blokes who cost about 1.2 million £ our results would be absolutely spot on.

It's the fact that we can't get better results than Swindon and Huddersfield that is all important. I have absolutely no idea how it will turn out, I hope we get a run of wins but I can see NC blowing AP away because of too little costing too much.

 

 

You're ****ing in the dark with comments like that.

 

Some folks on this forum, regardless of what you say, and the evidence available still make out that we are the hardest done by club in British football and we don't stand a chance against the likes of Swindon because they had a pre season and we didn't.

 

I doubt Swindon fans (or Millwall fans, or Huddersfield fans)would agree that they have more going for them than SFC at the moment. But the deluded on here will always make out the others have it so much easier than us.

 

We barely deserve the money ML has given us, because financually we've blown every club out of the water and still the loons on here talk about "I'm happy just to stay up, it's unrealistic to expect anything more".

 

What was the point, Marcus, what was the point? Should have just played the kids and a few L2 freebies like Swindon.

 

Then people might have something to "woe is us" about.

[derry]

I don't know if there was anybody with football knowledge present when AP was interviewed, and if it wasn't, then maybe the right questions weren't asked, and maybe there wasn't time either. We need to remember the comparative panic at the time to get a manager in and a team out to play the first game. From the poor start we have done very well.

 

But NC seems to be a quick and astute learner, and he is now maybe starting to ask the questions which weren't on his mind before. If the answers aren't palatable then he is not likely to hang on another six months or a year for a very simple reason: If a manager is the wrong choice then another six months or a year is not going to make a difference.

 

I sincerely hope that we are not going to appoint and discard as before, until we have firmly established what we want. If AP is what we want in the long term he is likely to stay, if not, then I hope not too much time is wasted. Time is only a good thing if what you are using it for is the right thing to start with.

 

This my view also. Well put.

[Saint_clark]

You're ****ing in the dark with comments like that.

 

Some folks on this forum, regardless of what you say, and the evidence available still make out that we are the hardest done by club in British football and we don't stand a chance against the likes of Swindon because they had a pre season and we didn't.

 

I doubt Swindon fans (or Millwall fans, or Huddersfield fans)would agree that they have more going for them than SFC at the moment. But the deluded on here will always make out the others have it so much easier than us.

 

We barely deserve the money ML has given us, because financually we've blown every club out of the water and still the loons on here talk about "I'm happy just to stay up, it's unrealistic to expect anything more".

 

What was the point, Marcus, what was the point? Should have just played the kids and a few L2 freebies like Swindon.

 

Then people might have something to "woe is us" about.

 

Take a look on footballforums.net, all fans of other clubs think that Pardew is doing a good job under the circumstances and that we are the ones to watch for the title next season.

[Graffito]

"They are through to the Johnstone's Paint Trophy final and you might be surprised how much that means to their fans." I find this a tad patronising. Claridges true colours showing perhaps.

[CB Fry]

Take a look on footballforums.net, all fans of other clubs think that Pardew is doing a good job under the circumstances and that we are the ones to watch for the title next season.

 

 

Whoopee. We should be the ones to watch for storming in the play offs this season, just like Leeds did with a 15 point penalty and nothing like the funds we spent. Nothing like it.

[Graffito]

OTT?

 

It's not how I see it or how you see it ,it's about how the Chairman sees it and as I say I'm not sure that he will give AP 18 months because that will put us into the middle of next season.The fans do not decide on the manager's tenure, the chairman does in consultation with the owner. If their objectives aren't being met then they will act accordingly ie Hughes at Man C.

 

Good example of why knee jerk reactions often backfire. They replaced him with Mancini who has a worse record.