Pushed, pulled and Saddened

[Liquidshokk]

My head is in a funny place right now. One minute we are going down a path filled with negativity over the way the club Is going (due to decisions made), the next we are involved In a media war over poxy photographs. Now we have been catapulted into mourning over the loss of our owner.

 

Thought it would be good for people to share where their heads are right now with regards to saints..,

 

Personally I still feel a bit numb and that my emotions have taken a battering over the last couple of weeks. Stupid really when you consider it all evolves around "watching some guys kick a football about". I struggle to feel such emotion in my day to day life generally.

 

Standing outside the stadium today brought it all together for me and made the events of the last couple of weeks seem totally irrelevant. I now feel saddened, anxious about the future and exhausted after a crazy couple of weeks...

 

Where's your head at?

[Colinjb]

I was feeling overwhelmingly positive. All the disputes over minutae didn't bother me but this does.

 

I fear for our future, regardless of the brief assurances given during the sad announcements I do. I pray that Markus' legacy will be a positive one and that his time was not just brief promise.

[Winchester_Saint]

Still shocked but mostly saddened. The uncertainty over the future of our club will not go away until this whole sad jigsaw is pieced together.

[Arizona]

Kind of gotten over the shock, now it's mainly just sadness and trying to make sense of it all. Every now and then I wonder about what it means for Saints long term, but just can't get my head around it. My brain is starting to fill with questions. Who will take control? What are their plans? Will they sell up? Will they carry on? If so, will they have the same vision of Markus? Will it be worse/better or different?

[Liquidshokk]

Kind of gotten over the shock, now it's mainly just sadness and trying to make sense of it all. Every now and then I wonder about what it means for Saints long term, but just can't get my head around it. My brain is starting to fill with questions. Who will take control? What are their plans? Will they sell up? Will they carry on? If so, will they have the same vision of Markus? Will it be worse/better or different?

 

I'm asking myself those questions too. I woke up this morning and for the first time In my life I genuinely had to think for a second whether it was a bad dream or not. I mean, to go through the lows and following highs of last year, get some stability, squabble because the media is bored and then this..it's insane and I can't quite believe it's happened.

 

Never felt so all over the place about someone elses business....

[Whitey Grandad]

I'm not sure what to think or feel. I lost my business partner to cancer at 64, my wife lost her sister at 54. When you get to my age, and Markus was only a year older than me, you become more and more accustomed to sudden losses and having to adapt to them. The world will keep on turning, the sun will still rise tomorrow, and yet somehow everything seems to have lost some of it's colour, some of it's hopefulness. They say that nobody's indispensable, but I can't really believe that about Markus. With hard work and fortitude we shall rise again but as the Greeks used to say "the gods laugh at those who make plans".

[hypochondriac]

If I'm honest it hasn't affected me as much as others. I'm sad sure for his family but my main concern is SFC and I'm more concerned about its long term future. I hope something can be sorted out next week.

[Saint Fan CaM]

Despite my passion for Saints, I find it quite strange that I have been so moved by the events of the last two days. Watching and listening to the tributes from others who like me never knew Markus but somehow felt a very special bond with him, was quite difficult to be honest. And I am not sure how I'm going to react at the next home game - it's going to be extremely emotional. It's absolutely clear that Markus felt a deep affinity with Saints supporters, acquired over a relatively short period of time and for me this accentuates in a way how much he took us to his heart pretty much unconditionally.

 

When you really think about how uncomplicated this wonderful man was in his investment in Saints, the things that really matter in life seem to be so much clearer. Markus was a highly intelligent and responsible man and I feel certain that he will have ensured that his legacy will live on with us for as long as we allow it. One thing is absolutely crystal clear to me now - the supporters of this great club must pull together and roar the team onto success after success in the name and memory of Markus. Anything less would be a complete and utter disgrace in my view.

[70's Mike]

If I'm honest it hasn't affected me as much as others. I'm sad sure for his family but my main concern is SFC and I'm more concerned about its long term future. I hope something can be sorted out next week.

 

sort of where i am at, know he saved club etc and very sorry for his family, but really concerned of where this leaves SFC

[Only1Northam]

I'm not really sure, even today I am still shocked and feeling guilty about thinking what is going to happen to my/our club. I'm deeply saddend by Markus's, "sudden" to us death. He is/was our saviour, without him SFC might not even exist anymore. For that I believe he is going to be a legend in all our hearts. And for one of the first times everybody seems to be united in mourning, though let's face it, nobody really knew him as a person. It's hit me, but it hasn't if that makes sense, still in shock, somehow feel that we as fans havn't shown the gratitude that we should have when we had the chance....maybe. Would've, should've, could've... I know nothing can be changed but as it stands I feel guilty about thinking about my club as well as Markus, when let's face it, his family and friends are the ones that are suffering more than us, no matter what some us might think.

[John B]

sort of where i am at' date=' know he saved club etc and very sorry for his family, but really concerned of where this leaves SFC[/quote']

 

Me too it must be very sad for his family but as I do not know ML I do not have feelings for him but realise that by buying the club the future for SFC was ensured although if he had not bought it I always felt somebody else would have.

 

Being old and crusty I do not like rich people buying football clubs because I feel football clubs really belong to the fans myself being a Saints Fan for almost fifty years.

 

I did not think that the club ML had bought was my club anymore but a means for making money with no installment plans booking fees and charging for photos parking fees etc but perhaps I was wrong and these things are required.

 

I am posting this on Holiday in Italy as I have followed SFC from all over the world and I dont really care if the club is in League 1 or the Premier League as after every match I will try and find out the result.

 

The future is probably going to be OK because we have great fans a good stadium and a reasonable team but only time will tell

[Only1Northam]

I think the future will be ok, this is still our club no matter bout installment plans, booking fees or charging for photos. In my opinion, the pair of them are/were trying for our club to be self-sufficient, planning for the futere, no matter what might happen in the future. I think a lot of clubs will follow, we're debt-free, and we could not have asked for an owner with more passion for SFC, let's make him proud

[notnowcato]

I'm not sure what to think or feel. I lost my business partner to cancer at 64, my wife lost her sister at 54. When you get to my age, and Markus was only a year older than me, you become more and more accustomed to sudden losses and having to adapt to them. The world will keep on turning, the sun will still rise tomorrow, and yet somehow everything seems to have lost some of it's colour, some of it's hopefulness. They say that nobody's indispensable, but I can't really believe that about Markus. With hard work and fortitude we shall rise again but as the Greeks used to say "the gods laugh at those who make plans".

 

Very succinctly put Whitey. The Greeks had a point, as does Colonel Sanders when it comes to counting your chickens.

 

The little insights we had into Markus as a person, thinking specifically of seeing him on the big Wembley screen taking pictures with his camera of his team, showed the type of man he was. There are enough crooks in this game ( and this is not directed as those down the road ;-) ) and when you lose a good person in any sphere it is always a shame.

 

Now is the the time to grieve but to also celebrate Markus, we can deal with the future after Orient take a right hammering from us. How apt that Mr Hearn, not necessarily a chairman fit to lace Markus's shoes, will be there to witness it.

[NickG]

to me it keeps it in perspective, and shows why you should enjoy the positives while we have them - and indeed look for them. It changes, it always will, please enjoy the good times.

[Barfy]

I think I'd echo a lot of what has been said in this thread already. Obviously I never knew him, but when he decided he wanted to be a part of Southampton FC and in such an important way he immediately elevated himself to a position alongside those on the much discussed banner at the top of this page. Therefore his passing is more than just a footnote... Yes I do feel a sense of sadness as I would at the death of a friend or maybe distant relative...

 

However I'm also a realist, without Markus there may not be SFC as we know it. Now we are back in a position of uncertainty (albeit more secure than previously). The rumours and hearsay will spread until announcements are made, and the only hope is that these sad events will galvanise the team, staff and fans of the club and that we can at least begin to push towards the objectives that he laid the foundations for regardless of any contingency plans that had been put in place.

 

Oh to be a Southampton fan... you never seem to be more than a few steps away from a kick in the nuts!

[alpine_saint]

I am very sad that the man who saved our club will not see his plans and wishes come to fruition.

 

I am not worried about the clubs future, the message is clear that the Liebherr family will carry on with Markus's wishes.

 

I hope that the management and team pull their thumbs out of their arses after another mediocre start to a season and fulfill Markus's dream.

 

WIFM.

[BadgerBadger]

I do not fear for our future, whatever happens we're in a good position - the mission is too make us into a viable business where revenue is directly linked to the running of the business instead of the current situation in football of debt or benefactors to make clubs successfull. Hence all the recent unpopular changes.

 

Looks like the investment is already in place and with NC working to make it a going concern and the general move of football needing to sort out it's finances means we're in a good place at the right time.

 

Just a crying shame Markus will not be around to see the fruits of his investment - hopefully he saw enough in his short time and confidence in NC to make it a reality.

[St_Tel49]

If I'm honest it hasn't affected me as much as others. I'm sad sure for his family but my main concern is SFC and I'm more concerned about its long term future. I hope something can be sorted out next week.

To be honest, the future of the club is the last thing that I am concerned about. I am quite prepared to take the initial statement at face value. I can see no reason not to - unless you are some kind of conspiracy theorist.

[Dellman]

He gave us new life and we gave him a day he hugely enjoyed at Wembley, so it's not all gloom; also I am confident his family will want a sort of memorial for him and it will be our club, and his grandchildren will come over sometimes and love it!

[lordswoodsaints]

I have always that Supporting saints is like a p isshead trying to make his way home from the pub......1 step forward,2 back and a couple sideways,he always makes it home but it takes a few setbacks before he does.

This is one of them sideways steps.

 

This is very sad news and it could possibly put a dent in a decent push for promotion,but behind the selfish thoughts of 'what happens to the club now' a man has died and a family has lost a loved one.

[Barry the Badger]

somehow feel that we as fans havn't shown the gratitude that we should have when we had the chance....maybe. Would've, should've, could've....

 

To be fair, he had a massive crowd singing 'One Marcus Liebherr' at Wembley stadium, and cheering his every appearance on the big screens. I'm pretty sure he was aware that we held him in high regard.

[NickG]

To be fair, he had a massive crowd singing 'One Marcus Liebherr' at Wembley stadium, and cheering his every appearance on the big screens. I'm pretty sure he was aware that we held him in high regard.

 

fans expect too much and moan too much imho.

[hypochondriac]

To be honest, the future of the club is the last thing that I am concerned about. I am quite prepared to take the initial statement at face value. I can see no reason not to - unless you are some kind of conspiracy theorist.

 

But I doubt there will be as much enthusiasm as the guy who bought us in the first place. Also it may be much harder to sanction spending in the future. SFC is surely worse off by his passing, even if only because his wishes may not be carried out exactly as he would want it.

[Dan Johnson]

Being privy to a handful of inside information I can say I’m saddened but not concerned. I am led to believe that we weren’t going to be spending a great deal of money in this transfer window because of the previous £8 Million investment in the first team last season, from a “Southampton Fan” perspective Markus’ sad death doesn’t really change the position of the club and its strength within the division. We will continue to look at free transfers (players like Vassal & Benjani) and put faith in some very good young players as was the plan for this season. I also believe, and this is purely speculation on my part, nothing more, that Cortese will almost take a “Proxy ownership” of the club, working on behalf of the beneficiary to for fill Markus’ wish of Premier League football, and then will look in to selling the club.

 

I think we can all make up our own minds about Cortese, and why I am absolutely positive that he does rub a few people up the wrong way, having a strong and focused leader at the helm during this difficult time will only further strengthen our position. I can only see Markus’ death as further motivation for success in that sense.

 

This really really should serve to unite the fan base now, from a personal point of view Markus’ death was sad, but even more so it opened my eyes to the fact that my own dad (who is only 4 years younger than Markus) may not have that long left , and that’s a thought that petrifies me. Some things are more important than football, but football is very much one of the biggest things me & my dad share, and when you think about it, the best thing about going to football is the enjoyment you share with those you love and those around you. Very few things in life can bring people together like football does, and football, Southampton Football club in particular, has and will continue to bring me and my dad together.

 

Markus’ death for me has made me realise what is important, forget about the politics, and let’s get back to enjoying the football with those we love. Let us saviour and appreciate every second of it. Life really is too short, winning the league this year for Markus will be a fitting tribute, and when god forbid I lose my own dad, it will be a moment in my life that I will be able to look back on with immense happiness as something we shared and something I will never ever forget, and I will remember, it was Markus that allowed that moment to happen because of his investment and what he has done for this club, he’ll hold a special place in my heart for doing that and I will never ever forget it, that’s the way to remember him and that, above all else, is what we should be aiming for.

 

COYR!

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

I am very sad that the man who saved our club will not see his plans and wishes come to fruition.

 

I am not worried about the clubs future, the message is clear that the Liebherr family will carry on with Markus's wishes.

 

I hope that the management and team pull their thumbs out of their arses after another mediocre start to a season and fulfill Markus's dream.

 

WIFM.

 

This is what has bothered me so much. I feel gutted for him.

[MorningtonCrescent]

@Dan Johnson - post of the week!

 

So much of what you say hits the nail on the head.

 

Live for what you have and remember what you've lost.

 

SFC will continue and we will be galvanised through the events of the last few days.

 

Thank you Markus, through you we can all still enjoy supporting the Saints and sharing that with the people we are close to.

[Mewsta]

@ Dan Johnson

[sadoldgit]

Hard to say. Still in shock as it was all so sudden. Didn't really get a handle on him as a man in the sort time he was here. He was obviously very happy to be here and his beaming smile at Wembley will be a lasting memory of that day and of what the club meant to him.

 

As for the future, very worried. His family will not have his vision and passion for us I doubt and although they are saying the right things the foot will definately come off the pedal to some extent. He is also left us with the legacy of Nicola Cortese. Whether this guy has been acting with the owners blessing to date we will not know, but if Markus was putting the brakes on to some extent, who knows what is in store for us now.

 

Very sad news for his friends and family, dreadful news for SFC.

[Smirking_Saint]

Kind of gotten over the shock, now it's mainly just sadness and trying to make sense of it all. Every now and then I wonder about what it means for Saints long term, but just can't get my head around it. My brain is starting to fill with questions. Who will take control? What are their plans? Will they sell up? Will they carry on? If so, will they have the same vision of Markus? Will it be worse/better or different?

 

This

[MarkSFC]

I lost my dad in his 60's and although it wasn't sudden those memories are heightened because of Markus's untimely departure.

 

I am empathetic for his family and close friends and hope that Saints fans shoe them immediately and over the coming months and years how much we value his intervention in the clubs history.

 

We may still of existed without him but he ensured that we steadied the ship and put in measures to fly again. This is what I will forever be grateful for. Whatever his motives he wanted success and put his money where his mouth was.

 

I think you can't be a Saints fan right now without thinking about the future, but the fact that this wad adressed in the club statement I take this to 100% mean that in essence nothing will really change. For that to be mentioned shows a distinct appreciation of how the fanbase will think/ is thinking and speaks volumes for the family and the executive.

 

I think we owe it to the Leibherr family to back them wholeheartedly in numbers and verbal support for as ling as they support our club.

[sadoldgit]

I read Dan's post after writing my own. Now I am more worried. If Cortese thinks last year's investment was the one to get us promoted I can see why he was p*ssed off when it didn't happen. And if the plan is to get us to the Premiership in 5 years and sell, what happens to us if we don't get there? If I were Pardew I would be looking out for a new job - there will be even less margin for error now and if we are looking to bring in freebies that will limit our options.

 

Markus's sad and untimely passing has just made a tough season even tougher.

[stevegrant]

I am very sad that the man who saved our club will not see his plans and wishes come to fruition.

This.

 

I'm not unduly concerned about the long-term future of the club, with no debt to any banks and the Guardian suggesting that the money Markus invested initially to repay those debts has been converted to equity, even if the Liebherr dynasty decided they wanted to walk away, the club is still in a fantastic position financially.

 

I genuinely believe that we wouldn't require someone with masses of cash at their disposal, because the fanbase and assets we have ensure that the club will be self-sufficient.

 

As for the rows, reports and rumours that have been circulating in recent months, they're entirely irrelevant at this time.

[sadoldgit]

As you say Steve, the financial problems as they were are now behind us so we are in a better position to go forward. I just hope that the person/people who take us forward can supply the same vison and energy to our cause.

[NickG]

I think we all hoped that Markus was going to keep giving us a financial boost and an advantage to take us up and up.

 

However, we all feel our rightful place is much higher and we survived a long time in the premiership without any outside boost.

 

We are now debt free, with a good stadium, good fan base etc - so even without the advantage of continual financial boosts from a benefactor we are better off than many teams and should be looking upwards.

[Bailey]

I lost my dad in his 60's and although it wasn't sudden those memories are heightened because of Markus's untimely departure.

 

I am empathetic for his family and close friends and hope that Saints fans show them immediately and over the coming months and years how much we value his intervention in the clubs history.

 

We may still of existed without him but he ensured that we steadied the ship and put in measures to fly again. This is what I will forever be grateful for. Whatever his motives he wanted success and put his money where his mouth was.

 

I think you can't be a Saints fan right now without thinking about the future, but the fact that this was addressed in the club statement I take this to 100% mean that in essence nothing will really change. For that to be mentioned shows a distinct appreciation of how the fanbase will think/ is thinking and speaks volumes for the family and the executive.

 

I think we owe it to the Leibherr family to back them wholeheartedly in numbers and verbal support for as ling as they support our club.

 

You've hit the nail on the head for me. Top post, brilliantly worded.

[Tom28]

Love the group therapy.

[Spudders]

Despite my passion for Saints, I find it quite strange that I have been so moved by the events of the last two days. Watching and listening to the tributes from others who like me never knew Markus but somehow felt a very special bond with him, was quite difficult to be honest. And I am not sure how I'm going to react at the next home game - it's going to be extremely emotional.

 

This sums up exactly how a feel.

 

I am 36 years old and I have never before in my life felt sad at the passing of someone I had never met and didn't really know, I just don't get it? It doesn’t seem logical to me, yet I do feel real sadness.

 

But why do I feel sadness on this occasion???? Is it because we let football become an integral part of our lives and emotions? Even if that were the case I can't imagine I'd feel like this if it had been anyone else in the club? Or is it just because it's a reminder of how fragile our lives are? I've been doing a lot of reflecting anyway recently about life and death, who knows, I can’t explain it.

 

Next Saturday worries me too, I need to man-up before then, but I fear that won't be the case.

[Scudamore]

This sums up exactly how a feel.

 

I am 36 years old and I have never before in my life felt sad at the passing of someone I had never met and didn't really know, I just don't get it? It doesn’t seem logical to me, yet I do feel real sadness.

 

But why do I feel sadness on this occasion???? Is it because we let football become an integral part of our lives and emotions? Even if that were the case I can't imagine I'd feel like this if it had been anyone else in the club? Or is it just because it's a reminder of how fragile our lives are? I've been doing a lot of reflecting anyway recently about life and death, who knows, I can’t explain it.

 

Next Saturday worries me too, I need to man-up before then, but I fear that won't be the case.

 

Now perhaps you can understand how Daily Mail readers felt when Princess Diana, Queen of Hearts died?

[Spudders]

Now perhaps you can understand how Daily Mail readers felt when Princess Diana, Queen of Hearts died?

 

Hummmmm, well maybe you'd think I'd be a bit more empathetic, but I'm not really sure what their connection was with her?

For a lot of us (certainly for me), Southampton is a massive part of our lives. I have no wife, I have no children, without wishing to sound a bit of a saddo, football fills a part of my life that would otherwise be empty. The last few years supporting saints have been awful, like a marriage on the rocks maybe? But Markus buying the club gave that relationship I have with Saints a new lease of life so I feel a massive connection with him and am forever thankful.

I can’t really answer why people felt a connection with Princess Diana as I personally didn’t have any interest in her.

[Scudamore]

Hummmmm, well maybe you'd think I'd be a bit more empathetic, but I'm not really sure what their connection was with her?

For a lot of us (certainly for me), Southampton is a massive part of our lives. I have no wife, I have no children, without wishing to sound a bit of a saddo, football fills a part of my life that would otherwise be empty. The last few years supporting saints have been awful, like a marriage on the rocks maybe? But Markus buying the club gave that relationship I have with Saints a new lease of life so I feel a massive connection with him and am forever thankful.

I can’t really answer why people felt a connection with Princess Diana as I personally didn’t have any interest in her.

She was a queen of hearts ffs. Show some respect.

[Liquidshokk]

Hummmmm, well maybe you'd think I'd be a bit more empathetic, but I'm not really sure what their connection was with her?

For a lot of us (certainly for me), Southampton is a massive part of our lives. I have no wife, I have no children, without wishing to sound a bit of a saddo, football fills a part of my life that would otherwise be empty. The last few years supporting saints have been awful, like a marriage on the rocks maybe? But Markus buying the club gave that relationship I have with Saints a new lease of life so I feel a massive connection with him and am forever thankful.

 

I agree, I'm in exactly the same position as you in life...(sad isnt it as I'm 27 ffs) but it definately gives me sometHing to love and follow with passion. Markus was part of that thing that filled the void and now a small hole has reappeared...

 

Deep.

 

WIFM

[Spudders]

She was a queen of hearts ffs. Show some respect.

 

cheers Scudamore you've just cheered me up!

[ladysaint]

I called a close friend of mine when I heard about Markus, I was in floods of tears and he really didnt understand why I was crying, he wasnt my partner, my Dad, a member of my family and I had never met the big man but he was a part of my family, my football family and someone I greatly respected for what he had done for the club and more importantly the way he conducted himself, he seemed very ordinary, very approachable and always smiling. I will always hold the image of him with his mobile phone or camera (not sure what it was) at Wembley taking photos of the team who were standing in front of him. I still cant hold back the tears, just reading the dedications on the OS sets me off again, think I will taking a black bin bag full of tissues with me next Saturday.

[miserableoldgit]

Being privy to a handful of inside information I can say I’m saddened but not concerned. I am led to believe that we weren’t going to be spending a great deal of money in this transfer window because of the previous £8 Million investment in the first team last season, from a “Southampton Fan” perspective Markus’ sad death doesn’t really change the position of the club and its strength within the division. We will continue to look at free transfers (players like Vassal & Benjani) and put faith in some very good young players as was the plan for this season. I also believe, and this is purely speculation on my part, nothing more, that Cortese will almost take a “Proxy ownership” of the club, working on behalf of the beneficiary to for fill Markus’ wish of Premier League football, and then will look in to selling the club.

 

I think we can all make up our own minds about Cortese, and why I am absolutely positive that he does rub a few people up the wrong way, having a strong and focused leader at the helm during this difficult time will only further strengthen our position. I can only see Markus’ death as further motivation for success in that sense.

 

This really really should serve to unite the fan base now, from a personal point of view Markus’ death was sad, but even more so it opened my eyes to the fact that my own dad (who is only 4 years younger than Markus) may not have that long left , and that’s a thought that petrifies me. Some things are more important than football, but football is very much one of the biggest things me & my dad share, and when you think about it, the best thing about going to football is the enjoyment you share with those you love and those around you. Very few things in life can bring people together like football does, and football, Southampton Football club in particular, has and will continue to bring me and my dad together.

 

Markus’ death for me has made me realise what is important, forget about the politics, and let’s get back to enjoying the football with those we love. Let us saviour and appreciate every second of it. Life really is too short, winning the league this year for Markus will be a fitting tribute, and when god forbid I lose my own dad, it will be a moment in my life that I will be able to look back on with immense happiness as something we shared and something I will never ever forget, and I will remember, it was Markus that allowed that moment to happen because of his investment and what he has done for this club, he’ll hold a special place in my heart for doing that and I will never ever forget it, that’s the way to remember him and that, above all else, is what we should be aiming for.

 

COYR!

One of the best posts that I have ever read on here. I am just a year younger than Markus and I have attended Saints matches with my daughter for many years. She is married with two children but even when her husband had an ST, she still sat with me because that`s what it always is to her - her and I going together - our time. I can relate to everything you say in this post.

[hypochondriac]

I called a close friend of mine when I heard about Markus, I was in floods of tears and he really didnt understand why I was crying, he wasnt my partner, my Dad, a member of my family and I had never met the big man but he was a part of my family, my football family and someone I greatly respected for what he had done for the club and more importantly the way he conducted himself, he seemed very ordinary, very approachable and always smiling. I will always hold the image of him with his mobile phone or camera (not sure what it was) at Wembley taking photos of the team who were standing in front of him. I still cant hold back the tears, just reading the dedications on the OS sets me off again, think I will taking a black bin bag full of tissues with me next Saturday.

 

Sorry but to me that is just bizarre. Odd how differently people act in certain situations

[Spudders]

I agree, I'm in exactly the same position as you in life...sad isnt it.........

 

I like people watching and I do find myself looking around at football crowds and thinking that their must be a high percentage of us singletons in the same position :lol:

 

To be honest, the more time I spend with my married mates and their kids, the less bothered I am that I am not in the same position as them. Most of them are skint, constantly moan and are never allowed out.

 

I can go out when I want and spend my money on what I want… so it’s not all bad!!!

[Liquidshokk]

I like people watching and I do find myself looking around at football crowds and thinking that their must be a high percentage of us singletons in the same position :lol:

 

To be honest, the more time I spend with my married mates and their kids, the less bothered I am that I am not in the same position as them. Most of them are skint, constantly moan and are never allowed out.

 

I can go out when I want and spend my money on what I want… so it’s not all bad!!!

 

Here here my friend!!!!!! Was a little strange going to the stadium on my own for a while but I'm used to it now. None of my friends are into Saints like I am so they would just laugh if I asked them to get a season ticket with me.

 

Know exactly what you mean about mates in relationships. They dont exactly advertise the benefits of being in a relationship very well!!!

 

Heres to singledom and looking like a saddo at the stadium on your own

 

Maybe the recent events just dont affect people who have relationships and stuff going on in their lives as much, as they maybe don't focus on the club so religiously....

[Barry the Badger]

Sorry but to me that is just bizarre. Odd how differently people act in certain situations

 

Sorry Hypo, I know you are not that cut up about Markus and that you're just putting your opinion across, but I really don't think theres a need for you to do it over and over. All you're acheiving now (intentionally or not) is to somewhat belittle peoples emotions on this matter.

[Liquidshokk]

Sorry Hypo, I know you are not that cut up about Markus and that you're just putting your opinion across, but I really don't think theres a need for you to do it over and over. All you're acheiving now (intentionally or not) is to somewhat belittle peoples emotions on this matter.

 

Think he's just putting a brave face on :-D some people have a problem letting their emotions show. Fair play to everyone on this forum who have shown they really have a heart; Surprised by some of the level headed kind words said by some posters on here who would normally be less likeable :-)

[West End Saint]

Top post I go with my Dad who is in his late 60's my Brother & Nephew and we enjoy every minute of our time at footy watching Saints live for today and never put a limit on how much fun you should have.

 

I am truly gratefull to Marcus if we are put on sale today what a legacy he has left no debt well run and going in the right direction he has secured the future for this and future generations of Saints fans we are very lucky to have had him as our owner. What a shame he wont be here to see his dream achieved.