NickG Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 not to duplicate rumours etc but here is your easy to find update on who our new manager will be! Not sure bookies track record on this? http://www.skybet.com/betting/football/manager-specials/t10002896.html Paul Hart favourite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 Can't really believe that Tommy Widdrington isn't listed on there. Might be worth a punt as his odds will be high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spadge47 Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 i dont often post on here as you can see PLEASE NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 Adkins is a decent shout. Hart is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodfc Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 Why isnt Eriksson on our list. He went to league 2 Notts Co because of their supposed riches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick1976.4.38 Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 paul hart instead of pardew,unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLove Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 As I stated on other thread The official Saints twitter has stated in response to the Paul Hart rumor "Com On You don't believe that, Surely?! Agents at work!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 31 August, 2010 Author Share Posted 31 August, 2010 As of 2.15 for those who can't access Hart -evens Brown/Shearer both 3/1 Zola 4/1 Howe 7/1 Dowie 9/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 Why is Ron Atkinson no longer working? He was quite successful, and had a lot of contacts. I wouldn't be too disappointed to see him in the dugout come matchday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjk Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 There will be rioting in the streets if its Hart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 What odds would you get for Ruud Gullit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Keith Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 There will be rioting in the streets if its Hart. there wont be, because we will have all gone home and forgotten about the club that used to be Southampton. last person to leave please turn off the lights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 Have the club twitter not dismissed the 'Hart rumours'??? I must admit, I don't quite understand how twitter works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 31 August, 2010 Author Share Posted 31 August, 2010 yes on rumour thread. still foavourite tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 yes on rumour thread. still foavourite tho I see, and how reliable is the official twitter. I mean, who writes it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 There will be rioting in the streets if its Hart. Hate to disagree with you, but I think a lot of people would be very unhappy to see Hart as manager. Can't really see fans lining the streets for him. Now O'Neill, on the other hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 Why is Ron Atkinson no longer working? He was quite successful, and had a lot of contacts. I wouldn't be too disappointed to see him in the dugout come matchday. Not sure he would get on with Puncheon, Jaidi and Gully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 Not sure he would get on with Puncheon, Jaidi and Gully. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 looks like a collection of random names to inspire fools to part with their money, same as the Villa list really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 looks like a collection of random names to inspire fools to part with their money, same as the Villa list really. I'm a complete numpty when it comes to the old betting game, but if I put money on every name, would I make a profit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 31 August, 2010 Author Share Posted 31 August, 2010 in the world? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 in the world? No. Oh no, my sides appear to have split! What do you take me for, some kind of west country thicky? What about just the northern hemisphere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 I'm a complete numpty when it comes to the old betting game, but if I put money on every name, would I make a profit? well if you calculated the amount to put on each needed to break even in any event I guess you could have a flutter without actually losing anything cos that's what the bookies do in reverse..if you catch my drift...Of course if a long shot wins it makes it easier to make a profit, odds are calculated on bets received rather than probability so you just have to work out the reverse action.I know 2 professional gamblers, they are both ex maths professors but they're more into short odds card games and very complex roulette strategy but they live well, far better than most of us who stayed close to the academic way of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokingFun Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 Odds are not usually a great indicator in these markets. I have seen loads of these betting markets where odds-on favourites never end up anywhere near the club they are supposed to be nailed on for. Surely, it is one thing for Cortese to sack Pardew when most thought he was doing a decent enough job, but to appoint someone like Paul Hart has to be sheer lunacy not because he has links with Portsmouth but simply because he does not have the right credentials for the job if Cortese is looking for someone as a long term appointment that could succeed in each division as we go up the leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 Hart has hardened to 4/5, mmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 well if you calculated the amount to put on each needed to break even in any event I guess you could have a flutter without actually losing anything cos that's what the bookies do in reverse..if you catch my drift...Of course if a long shot wins it makes it easier to make a profit, odds are calculated on bets received rather than probability so you just have to work out the reverse action.I know 2 professional gamblers, they are both ex maths professors but they're more into short odds card games and very complex roulette strategy but they live well, far better than most of us who stayed close to the academic way of life. No, sorry, you lost me after "well if you...." Thanks for the effort though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 Odds For Manager ....... Never heard of him but if he's better than Pardew and the crazy list of potntial bosses then he gets my vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 still would you sack Pardew to appoint Hart?.....not me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 31 August, 2010 Share Posted 31 August, 2010 Yeah but he explained that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 1 September, 2010 Author Share Posted 1 September, 2010 As of 2.15 for those who can't access Hart -evens Brown/Shearer both 3/1 Zola 4/1 Howe 7/1 Dowie 9/1 now Hart 4/5 Brown 3/1 Shearer 5/1 Zola 6/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 now Hart 4/5 Brown 3/1 Shearer 5/1 Zola 6/1 they are skybet odds, for same 4 , Victor Chandler offer Hart 5/2 Brown 5/1 SHearer 7/1 Zola 7/2 http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/southampton-specials/next-permanent-manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tttdcs Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 Southgate at 22/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 Southgate at 22/1 He could eat an apple through a letterbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 i have had a bet on both sven and martin o neil i think cortese will bring out some heavy firepower this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 My money is on Brown. He is the only one who has said that he wants the job, not sure who and when he said it, but was on here yesterday. He will be our man. I do not like the bloke but think he could do a good job for us, and that is all that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 (edited) My money is on Brown. He is the only one who has said that he wants the job, not sure who and when he said it, but was on here yesterday. He will be our man. I do not like the bloke but think he could do a good job for us, and that is all that matters. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/southampton/7974725/Phil-Brown-eager-to-replace-Alan-Pardew-as-Southampton-manager.html Also someone has posted on the Echo comments that he is ITK and Brown is a 'certainty'. I'd just like to take this opportunity to say that no-one from the club has approached me yet in connection with the vacant managerial position. Marvellous. Edited 1 September, 2010 by RonManager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 Southgate at 22/1 Which race and who is the jockey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 they are skybet odds, for same 4 , Victor Chandler offer Hart 5/2 Brown 5/1 SHearer 7/1 Zola 7/2 http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/southampton-specials/next-permanent-manager That's really weird. That would almost suggest that following a story being run on their sports news service about a particular manager, Sky have taken more money in bets on that manager than other bookies, wouldn't it? What a strange coincidence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 Oh FFS. It's not Paul Hart. If Sky are so sure it will be him from their 'sources' why are they still offering odds on him on SKYbet? Think about it! Sky make a rank outsider the favourite by dropping a rumour from 'sources', make that person the favourite on their own betting site to add a little bit of authority to the rumour, and then sit back and watch punters throw their money away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthamSteve Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 Oh FFS. It's not Paul Hart. If Sky are so sure it will be him from their 'sources' why are they still offering odds on him on SKYbet? Think about it! Sky make a rank outsider the favourite by dropping a rumour from 'sources', make that person the favourite on their own betting site to add a little bit of authority to the rumour, and then sit back and watch punters throw their money away! .... yep. Phil Brown looks more than likely for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkiesaint Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 That's really weird. That would almost suggest that following a story being run on their sports news service about a particular manager, Sky have taken more money in bets on that manager than other bookies, wouldn't it? What a strange coincidence! That's good spot Benji, and a good reason to take it with a pinch of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 Oh FFS. It's not Paul Hart. If Sky are so sure it will be him from their 'sources' why are they still offering odds on him on SKYbet? Think about it! Sky make a rank outsider the favourite by dropping a rumour from 'sources', make that person the favourite on their own betting site to add a little bit of authority to the rumour, and then sit back and watch punters throw their money away! Is that legal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthamSteve Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 Is that legal? Yes essentially. They're free to do what they want, they can cover their backsides by saying that the odds are based on strong rumours and calculated risk. SSN is a media outlet so they have no reason not to shorten their odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 Jeff Kenna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 Is that legal? They've covered themselves on the reporting front by saying it's from an unnamed source, so nothing to go on there. And the odds on him with Skybet probably came down naturally with people betting, so nothing to go on there. Sky are a bookmaker, so unless they're reporting something solid, sourced properly and verifiable, I take no notice whatsoever, as they have a lot to gain from unsubstantiated rumours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 1 September, 2010 Author Share Posted 1 September, 2010 As of 2.15 for those who can't access Hart -evens Brown/Shearer both 3/1 Zola 4/1 Howe 7/1 Dowie 9/1 now Hart 4/5 Brown 3/1 Shearer 5/1 Zola 6/1 now Howe 2/3 Zola 4/1 Brown 4/1 Hart 5/1 MON 14/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 Sorry if already covered, but when solent said that 30 working managers have applied, what exactly does 'working' mean? Are they saying that all 30 applicants are currently employed, or that all 30 are recognised managers/coaches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 Howe is 8/11 now!! Looking like we have a clear fav, with the next one being Brown, who I still think will get the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 September, 2010 Share Posted 1 September, 2010 Oh no, Glen Hoddle is now priced at 22's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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