Thedelldays Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 on solent...direct from Nicola Cortese via adam blackmoore Reed works with the academy at the training ground... there we go. put that one to bed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 good news in nicola we trust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 And like the way they caught Adam out for saying Adkins name - lol NC makes ANOTHER simnple clear clarification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 Exactly what most of us knew, there was just a few idiots who enjoy adding 2+2, getting 5 and then using it as a stick to beat Cortese with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 September, 2010 Author Share Posted 11 September, 2010 And like the way they caught Adam out for saying Adkins name - lol NC makes ANOTHER simnple clear clarification yeah..got caught right out on that one by mentioning Adkins...then tried to backtrack..hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 The number of rumours on here about Cortese and then being proven wrong must be into triple figures now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 The number of rumours on here about Cortese and then being proven wrong must be into triple figures now! Oh don't worry there will be plenty more areas to moan at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 The title "director or football" varies so much between clubs that it doesn't always mean the same thing. Les Reed's job at Saints is to oversee The Academy, Scouting, Sports Medicine and Equipment Procurement. To some that would be the role of a director of football even though Reed doesn't have it as a job title nor involvement with the first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 on solent...direct from Nicola Cortese via adam blackmoore Reed works with the academy at the training ground... there we go. put that one to bed Just "has" and "will have" or "had" as well ? Curious if this is a new development, or something agreed as a T & C with the new guy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 Exactly what most of us knew, there was just a few idiots who enjoy adding 2+2, getting 5 and then using it as a stick to beat Cortese with. Unfortunately they make up the largest percentage of this forums user base. They'll be here shortly to twist those words or claim they are an outright lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 oops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 The number of rumours on here about Cortese and then being proven wrong must be into triple figures now! Yep, our fan base has really shown its true colours. Even I was tempted to the Darkside yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 September, 2010 Author Share Posted 11 September, 2010 Just "has" and "will have" or "had" as well ? Curious if this is a new development, or something agreed as a T & C with the new guy... basically...reed has not...never had and will not have any involvement in the first team..he came here and still does run staplewood/academy.. this little stick to beat NC is now broken.....on to the next one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 That fits with what I was told. Pardew decided tactics and picked the first team without interference from Reed. No different than any other DoF or Sporting Director. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 Just "has" and "will have" or "had" as well ? Curious if this is a new development, or something agreed as a T & C with the new guy... Has not, does not and will not have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 Has not, does not and will not have. So the business about NC and Reed interfering with Pardew, and that being the source of Pardews "attitude" is all bullsh*t then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 It's a welcome clarification and it confirms the situation defined originally, before legend overtook fact. As I understood it, the required reporting structure holds the player development/academy side in balance with - not subordinate to - first team affairs, and there will be a committee approach to the transfer area. Against that backdrop, there is a desire to develop a "Southampton style" - which is a combined and cooperative effort involving all player contact staff, youth and senior. Beyond that, as Ron said, first team selection and tactics are the purview of the first team manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 So Reed wasn't involved in the 4 man committee? And if he will have no involvement with the 1st team what was all that stuff about Pardew's sacking and the need to have a united approach or whatever he said? It made it sound like that it was not working, now he is saying that there will be no unified approach??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 September, 2010 Author Share Posted 11 September, 2010 So Reed wasn't involved in the 4 man committee? And if he will have no involvement with the 1st team what was all that stuff about Pardew's sacking and the need to have a united approach or whatever he said? It made it sound like that it was not working, now he is saying that there will be no unified approach??? i think it was said that reed does not..will not and never had any involvement with the first team... make of that what you will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 So Reed wasn't involved in the 4 man committee? And if he will have no involvement with the 1st team what was all that stuff about Pardew's sacking and the need to have a united approach or whatever he said? It made it sound like that it was not working, now he is saying that there will be no unified approach??? Gives more credence to the rumours that Pardew was only training with his first team squad and a couple of others, and refusing to let anyone else train with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 So the business about NC and Reed interfering with Pardew, and that being the source of Pardews "attitude" is all bullsh*t then ? How do we know that? Just because of a press release? Hmmmm So Pardew was lying when he said that he received a text fromNC querying his use of Guly for 5 mins? Curiouser and curiouser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 How do we know that? Just because of a press release? Hmmmm So Pardew was lying when he said that he received a text fromNC querying his use of Guly for 5 mins? Curiouser and curiouser. but actually, have we ever heard pardew say he received that text? if we're honest that is all based on complete and utter rumour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 How do we know that? Just because of a press release? Hmmmm So Pardew was lying when he said that he received a text fromNC querying his use of Guly for 5 mins? Curiouser and curiouser. Show me where Pardew has talked about a text? It is all rumours, which seem to have taken you in. it is more curious why so many Saints fans believe every rumour no matter what as the gospel truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 but actually, have we ever heard pardew say he received that text? if we're honest that is all based on complete and utter rumour. So what if its not ? NC didnt text him and tell him to put Goolie on, even in the rumour. He asked why Goolie didnt come on earlier. My understanding is that Goolie improved in the next game, so maybe NC was right. Maybe this is even more evidence of Pardews "attitude" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 So the business about NC and Reed interfering with Pardew, and that being the source of Pardews "attitude" is all bullsh*t then ? Unless Cortese is a liar, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guan 2.0 Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 on solent...direct from Nicola Cortese via adam blackmoore Reed works with the academy at the training ground... there we go. put that one to bed Is it available on listen again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 Is it available on listen again? It'll be on iplayer in a few hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrimd Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 Unless Cortese is a liar, yes. We surely have to make some assumptions that he is not in fact 5 years old and does not tell lies. Nothing he has done so far, whether you agree with or not, indicates he is a liar liar pants on fire so perhaps we should take it as true, maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 Good news. As I've said, I don't think he's qualified to have any input into first team matters, but he is well qualified to develop the Academy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 We surely have to make some assumptions that he is not in fact 5 years old and does not tell lies. Nothing he has done so far, whether you agree with or not, indicates he is a liar liar pants on fire so perhaps we should take it as true, maybe? I agree entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 How do we know that? Just because of a press release? Hmmmm So Pardew was lying when he said that he received a text fromNC querying his use of Guly for 5 mins? Curiouser and curiouser. As others have asked, please point me to where Pardew has ever mentioned this text. As far as I'm aware the ONLY mention of it was from a journo who has ALWAYS slagged off Saints. AND, even there was such a text, how do we know in what context this 5 minutes was mentioned? It could have been NC wanting to learn a managers thinking in such a situation, or that as we were well in control of the match that maybe 10 mins would have been more useful for the new guy, or that another player (a tired Rickie, for example) could have benefitted from 10-15 mins rest at the end of a match we were in so much control of. Most certainly, the text COULD have begun, 'Well done. What a fantstic result! As an aside......' Neither you, nor I, nor any of the others who are so quick to try and beat NC with any vague rumour, know the truth about this. I await your 'pointing me to where Pardew stated the above' or 'your retraction of this statement' with total disbelief that either will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 How do we know that? Just because of a press release? Hmmmm So Pardew was lying when he said that he received a text fromNC querying his use of Guly for 5 mins? Curiouser and curiouser. Oh dear... We have it clarified and STILL, they can't help themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 Oh dear... We have it clarified and STILL, they can't help themselves. It is indeed bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 accept he had no involvement in First Team affairs directly BUT did he have major involvement with players in first team squad and signings because i cannot get my head round why we did not replace Papa and Antionio. They were so instrumental in our successes last season to not replace them was and is a massive mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 September, 2010 Author Share Posted 11 September, 2010 accept he had no involvement in First Team affairs directly BUT did he have major involvement with players in first team squad and signings because i cannot get my head round why we did not replace Papa and Antionio. They were so instrumental in our successes last season to not replace them was and is a massive mistake no...he has no involvement....that is what has been said.. why is that so hard for people to accept...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 Let`s hope this Wilkins mush has very little more to do with the first team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 Let`s hope this Wilkins mush has very little more to do with the first team... tbf he's a good coach and our success last season was also down to him in parts. but he's out of his depth as the full time manager at a club this size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 accept he had no involvement in First Team affairs directly BUT did he have major involvement with players in first team squad and signings because i cannot get my head round why we did not replace Papa and Antionio. They were so instrumental in our successes last season to not replace them was and is a massive mistake Really ? Didnt see you sticking up for me on here when I got abuse for pointing it out throughout the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 Oh dear... We have it clarified and STILL, they can't help themselves. It is nice that you believe everything that people tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 It is nice that you believe everything that people tell you. Far less paranoid than believing what suits your agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 September, 2010 Author Share Posted 11 September, 2010 It is nice that you believe everything that people tell you. ok..lets assume everything the club says is a lie... may as well give up now..eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 As others have asked, please point me to where Pardew has ever mentioned this text. As far as I'm aware the ONLY mention of it was from a journo who has ALWAYS slagged off Saints. AND, even there was such a text, how do we know in what context this 5 minutes was mentioned? It could have been NC wanting to learn a managers thinking in such a situation, or that as we were well in control of the match that maybe 10 mins would have been more useful for the new guy, or that another player (a tired Rickie, for example) could have benefitted from 10-15 mins rest at the end of a match we were in so much control of. Most certainly, the text COULD have begun, 'Well done. What a fantstic result! As an aside......' Neither you, nor I, nor any of the others who are so quick to try and beat NC with any vague rumour, know the truth about this. I await your 'pointing me to where Pardew stated the above' or 'your retraction of this statement' with total disbelief that either will happen. So it is okay to believe one bit of gossip is not true and another is? AP has been beaten with all kinds of rumour, are you going to defend him in the same way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Strover Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 Pardew was sacked from the club for non-football related matters. This has been confirmed to me today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 As others have asked, please point me to where Pardew has ever mentioned this text. As far as I'm aware the ONLY mention of it was from a journo who has ALWAYS slagged off Saints. AND, even there was such a text, how do we know in what context this 5 minutes was mentioned? It could have been NC wanting to learn a managers thinking in such a situation, or that as we were well in control of the match that maybe 10 mins would have been more useful for the new guy, or that another player (a tired Rickie, for example) could have benefitted from 10-15 mins rest at the end of a match we were in so much control of. Most certainly, the text COULD have begun, 'Well done. What a fantstic result! As an aside......' Neither you, nor I, nor any of the others who are so quick to try and beat NC with any vague rumour, know the truth about this. I await your 'pointing me to where Pardew stated the above' or 'your retraction of this statement' with total disbelief that either will happen. Actually your version of the text is probably right. As we all know, his praise of Pardew after the cup win was so fulsome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 So what if its not ? NC didnt text him and tell him to put Goolie on, even in the rumour. He asked why Goolie didnt come on earlier. My understanding is that Goolie improved in the next game, so maybe NC was right. Maybe this is even more evidence of Pardews "attitude" Your volte farce is gobsmcking. NC is OK to interfere in first team affairs?????? UNFECKINGBELIEVABLE. I have heard it all now. Really, good job I have a belly because I haven't laughed this much since I acquired one... Out of interest, are all Chaimen extended the same courtesy, including our previous one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 given how bad we have been this season perhaps LR shuld have been involved! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 ok..lets assume everything the club says is a lie... may as well give up now..eh Or lets assume everything we are told is the truth...on the other hand, we could remain about skepital about offical statements from anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 September, 2010 Author Share Posted 11 September, 2010 Or lets assume everything we are told is the truth...on the other hand, we could remain about skepital about offical statements from anyone. glad to see you are giving NC the magical "3 YEARS" TO GET IT RIGHT.. jolly nice of you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 Your volte farce is gobsmcking. NC is OK to interfere in first team affairs?????? UNFECKINGBELIEVABLE. I have heard it all now. Really, good job I have a belly because I haven't laughed this much since I acquired one... Out of interest, are all Chaimen extended the same courtesy, including our previous one? How did he interfere ? By asking a question (allegedly) ? BURN HIM... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 11 September, 2010 Share Posted 11 September, 2010 glad to see you are giving NC the magical "3 YEARS" TO GET IT RIGHT.. jolly nice of you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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