Deppo Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Can we use this thread for our weekly scapegoating? Mods, can we make this a sticky please? Who are we waving our pitchforks at this week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 I reckon people have every right to be p*ssed at the players for losing a 2-goal lead. Twice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Forte has to go, he had long enough to prove himself. Missed a complete sitter from right in front of goal to add to it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 5 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Exactly. Bloody players. But we could at least single one out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jim Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 lowe out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 5 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 5 February, 2011 One vote for Forte. As you say, he's had enough time to prove himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 5 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 5 February, 2011 What about Guly? We haven't scapegoated him for a few weeks. When was the last time he scored? Ages. He's got to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 What about Guly? We haven't scapegoated him for a few weeks. When was the last time he scored? Ages. He's got to go. I'll call the Taxi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 oNE VOTE FOR THE VERY POORLY TRAINED BALL BOYS/GIRLZZ.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfredKo Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Seabourne. Just don't like him and I am a fan of Jaidi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 5 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 5 February, 2011 This is getting a bit difficult to manage now. We can't blame ALL the players. There must be just one that we can agree is at fault for everything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Seabourne. Just don't like him and I am a fan of Jaidi. I think Jaidi would have been slaughtered by Mackail-Smith tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 I didn't see Steve Baker contribute a thing today. and Puckett was pretty anonymous as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Mackail-Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 This is getting a bit difficult to manage now. We can't blame ALL the players. There must be just one that we can agree is at fault for everything? It used to be Frank Saul. http://www.canveyisland.org/page_id__742.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Lallana for me.......if he hadnt got himself injured !!! Come on Adam, pull yourself together ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 5 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 5 February, 2011 I didn't see Steve Baker contribute a thing today. and Puckett was pretty anonymous as well. I don't know who Puckett is, but Baker retired years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 5 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 5 February, 2011 I see that Saints have a textline for the Man of the Match. I wonder if they'd be interested in running a Scapegoat of the Match textline too? Perhaps SaintsWeb could sponsor it? Is this something we could do, Boj? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 I reckon people have every right to be p*ssed at the players for losing a 2-goal lead. Twice... As you have already stated that you didn't follow the game, your opinion is really not of any great value. If you had watched the game you would have witnessed one of the most exciting and entertaining matches you would ever be privileged to see and you would also have seen that every player on both sides gave it everything. We weathered a terrific storm from them in the first 10 minutes and then completely outplayed the team with the best home record in the division who score an average 3 goals in every game at London Road, and if you had watched or even listened to the game you would have witnessed the terrific attacking force that Peterboro have, only wish we had 1 or 2 of theirs. But no instead you sit there with no knowledge of the game today and snipe and sneer as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 5 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 5 February, 2011 As you have already stated that you didn't follow the game, your opinion is really not of any great value. If you had watched the game you would have witnessed one of the most exciting and entertaining matches you would ever be privileged to see and you would also have seen that every player on both sides gave it everything. We weathered a terrific storm from them in the first 10 minutes and then completely outplayed the team with the best home record in the division who score an average 3 goals in every game at London Road, and if you had watched or even listened to the game you would have witnessed the terrific attacking force that Peterboro have, only wish we had 1 or 2 of theirs. But no instead you sit there with no knowledge of the game today and snipe and sneer as usual. This is all very nice, but it doesn't really help us with deciding who is to blame for the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Seabourne. Just don't like him and I am a fan of Jaidi. Jaidi would have been a complete liability today against the pace they had. Seaborne (note spelling) made 1 mistake as far as I could see, but I would agree that we need another CB, and was very surprsied we didn't strengthen in that area during the window. Jaidi is fine against L1 quality players, Posh have players up front who will be in the PL soon, if not next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Their Groundsman...... He prepared that wicket so the ball seemed to always spin in their favour.... Poor show.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 5 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 5 February, 2011 So who do you blame, VectisSaint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 This is all very nice, but it doesn't really help us with deciding who is to blame for the result. OK, OK, you're right, in that case I blame Telfer, Delap and Jimmy Melia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Still Mackail-Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Still Mackail-Smith. Agree - if he'd signed for us we'd have won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 5 February, 2011 Author Share Posted 5 February, 2011 One nomination for Davis. Thanks, adriansfc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 As you have already stated that you didn't follow the game, your opinion is really not of any great value. If you had watched the game you would have witnessed one of the most exciting and entertaining matches you would ever be privileged to see and you would also have seen that every player on both sides gave it everything. We weathered a terrific storm from them in the first 10 minutes and then completely outplayed the team with the best home record in the division who score an average 3 goals in every game at London Road, and if you had watched or even listened to the game you would have witnessed the terrific attacking force that Peterboro have, only wish we had 1 or 2 of theirs. But no instead you sit there with no knowledge of the game today and snipe and sneer as usual. You know what ? I couldnt give a f**k what you think of my opinion. You can gush as much as you want over the sporting spectacle, the fact is that on a critical round of matches we slipped back against the competing teams for promotion, having led the match by 2 goals twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxosponge Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Can we use this thread for our weekly scapegoating? Mods, can we make this a sticky please? And can we have a poll as well please. I blame Chaplow because he didn't shut that **** Fregusson up for good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 I reckon people have every right to be p*ssed at the players for losing a 2-goal lead. Twice... I reckon people have every right to be pleased with the players for gaining a 2-goal lead. Twice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torrent Of Abuse Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 I blame Darren Ferguson... and Sir Alex Ferguson... and Duncan Ferguson, Barry Ferguson and Sheila Ferguson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torrent Of Abuse Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 And N'Guessan and Ndlovu and N'Sync. Rubbish, Rubbish, Rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torrent Of Abuse Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Perhaps the scapegoat could he determined by some kind of rota? Alphabetical order? What player's first up on the rota? Chaplow? No, Barnard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Do prado was bloomin awfull today hardly completed a pass gave the ball away constantly and his tackling was horrendous i say blame him! blame him! blame him! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 5 February, 2011 Share Posted 5 February, 2011 Hammond. He makes me so mad with his below outstanding performances that I want to self harm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 6 February, 2011 Share Posted 6 February, 2011 Fonte please. It's annoyed me that the pronunciation of his name has come into question, this has clearly unsettled the squad. What a ***** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 6 February, 2011 Share Posted 6 February, 2011 I'm putting Seabourne on the block. Totally owned by Mackail-Smith and would get murdered in the Championship. Lovely give away straight from the second half kick off too. Out of his depth today. Totally to blame for our defeat. That last bit might be a bit harsh. But we're scapegoating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 6 February, 2011 Share Posted 6 February, 2011 Using the massive and in depth knowledge that I have gleaned on the game I blame the Solent Commentator (was it Adam or Chris?. He went into screaming high pitched excitement mode FAR too early in the match and completely ran out of adjectives and energy well before the end. If they cannot supply Commentators with the ability to keep their heads and remain descriptive what should we expect? The modern game is all about Pace and Energy Levels. Running out of steam so early in the game is just not professional. Some may point to the Stop Watch incident, others may argue that it was the Hospitality Table and the Sandwiches, I just think the team weren't mentally prepared for a game like this. They clearly had their tactics wrong and apart from one brief flatulent remark about having great wind they failed to let us understand that it was blowing a gale out there. Rickie comes a close second for running out of steam (Solent words) when clean through and failing to give us another almost safe 2 goal cushion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 6 February, 2011 Share Posted 6 February, 2011 I must admit I blame the commentator as well, he was too bloody excited!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torrent Of Abuse Posted 6 February, 2011 Share Posted 6 February, 2011 I blame Radio Solent and internet radio streaming for forbidding me from listening to the commentary on an Internet stream (due to some licensing regulations and nonsense). I also blame the Internet video streaming that I could get for being so stuttery that I started to feel I was in a time zone all my own - instead of merely being in Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 6 February, 2011 Share Posted 6 February, 2011 I would like to blame Lambert. If he had hit his first Pen as hard as his second, their players would have been scared. IMO of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 6 February, 2011 Share Posted 6 February, 2011 You know what ? I couldnt give a f**k what you think of my opinion. You can gush as much as you want over the sporting spectacle, the fact is that on a critical round of matches we slipped back against the competing teams for promotion, having led the match by 2 goals twice. That as it may be, but Vectis is bang on the money with his comment. Some games go like that - it was one of those games. 5 wins, 2 draws and a defeat in the last 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 6 February, 2011 Share Posted 6 February, 2011 I blame the 'boro chairman for not accepting our offer for MS. And I blame Alpine for his inability to watch any game, even on a dodgy stream, and his sheer miserable attitude which must rub off on the players.. Oh, and can I blame myself for my team's defeat today. Our goalkeeper injured herself in training and they've put me in goal: on the basis that I'm not your average Italian dwarf and regarded as the mad Englishwoman. Sod, first time and against the league leaders too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 6 February, 2011 Share Posted 6 February, 2011 I'd also like to blame Mackail-Smith, who was a bloody nightmare for Seaborne, and the ref, in particular, running around like a loon shoving people off the ball. Also, probably 3 of the penalties were dubious too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 6 February, 2011 Share Posted 6 February, 2011 I don't blame any players. I blame poor substitutions. Actually, I blame Lee Todd. We let our standards slip to an unacceptable level after he was signed. It's been downhill ever since. Todays players think they're better than they are because they look at him and think 'if he was a premier league player then I should be playing for Barcelona'. This over confidence is costing us points. So, it's down to Lee Todd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 6 February, 2011 Share Posted 6 February, 2011 I'd also like to blame Mackail-Smith, who was a bloody nightmare for Seaborne, and the ref, in particular, running around like a loon shoving people off the ball. Also, probably 3 of the penalties were dubious too. I'd go with 3 dubious penalties. Chaplows was shaky but at least the player gave him a half hearted shove. Their first seemed to me to be a case of their player prodding the ball past Seaborne and then running into him. How does that work? The equaliser was mental. The ref had no real view - the lino did and didn't give it. The way I look at it we would have won that game 4-3 if the ref hadn't have been looking to even things up. The scapegoat thread wouldn't exist, we'd all be happy (well, except Alpine) and there would be nobody slitting their wrists hysterically - some of the comments on the reaction thread last night were frankly embarrassing...so many screaming drama queens on here. Take a look at it again in the cold light of day....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 6 February, 2011 Share Posted 6 February, 2011 Deppo, why do you have to be such a Rupert? It's not about scapegoats. Fact is, Kelvin is seriously showing flaws in his game and it is costing us. Dan Seabourne is good enough. He loses track of his men, isn't strong enough, has next to no awareness and I find my heart in my mouth everytime he is put under pressure. Dan Harding, although great coming forward and links up superbly with Lallana down the left, he is beaten FAR too often and that second goal last night he just watched Whelpdale get in front of him then pointed the finger at everyone else. Yes, there were others at fault, but he made no effort for the cause there. Fact is, we have some major flaws as it stands. It's not scapegoats, it's honesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 6 February, 2011 Share Posted 6 February, 2011 I'd go with 3 dubious penalties. Chaplows was shaky but at least the player gave him a half hearted shove. Their first seemed to me to be a case of their player prodding the ball past Seaborne and then running into him. How does that work? The equaliser was mental. The ref had no real view - the lino did and didn't give it. The way I look at it we would have won that game 4-3 if the ref hadn't have been looking to even things up. The scapegoat thread wouldn't exist, we'd all be happy (well, except Alpine) and there would be nobody slitting their wrists hysterically - some of the comments on the reaction thread last night were frankly embarrassing...so many screaming drama queens on here. Take a look at it again in the cold light of day....... Are you joking? He knocked the ball past Seabourne who in turn comited defensive suicide by sticking his trailing foot out behind him. The most stupid thing he could of done and it just confirmed that he is a liability. To prove the gulf in difference between Fonte and Seabourne, look at how Fonte dealt with pretty much everything CMS put at him, then look at the times Seabourne come up against and was totally out of his depth. Aaron Martin surely, SURELY has to be considered ahead of Seabourne now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 6 February, 2011 Share Posted 6 February, 2011 Chamberlain blatently.Gave away penalty in injury time.Should have sold him on in window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 6 February, 2011 Share Posted 6 February, 2011 You know what ? I couldnt give a f**k what you think of my opinion. You can gush as much as you want over the sporting spectacle, the fact is that on a critical round of matches we slipped back against the competing teams for promotion, having led the match by 2 goals twice. You know what Alpine, I couldn't give a **** about your opinion either because it is worthless, as has been demonstrated time after time after time. You occassionally get things right (and on some things such as Pardew I always agreed with you) but that is purely down to the law of averages. You demonstrate remorselessly you do not have the slightest knowledge of football and you have even less knowledge about Saints, and yet you pass judgement on a match you openly admit you know nothing about. Your approcah to suporting Saints (if you do) has nothing to do with reality, it is based purely on looking at statistics and trying to draw conclusions from an incomplete set of facts, thankfully football is not like that, it is a game, it is a set of sporting contests between human beings with all of their weaknesses and strengths, that is what makes it interesting, not whether on paper we should win a game when we are 2 goals to the good. Did you watch Arsenal v Newcastle yesterday? I wonder if there is an equivalent to Alpine who supports the Arse, I guess there probably is, probably several, they must be slittling their wrists today, how would you cope with letting a 4 goal lead slip? I suspect you would suggest sacking the manager, that would be a great idea, sack the best coach in the world (OK, maybe 1 of top 3). **** happens, and in football, if there were no games like yesterday the game would be not worth watching. The feeling that the general public would have taken from yesterday was, great game, contested by 2 very good footballing teams, try watching it then you might understand (but I doubt it). That is not gushing, that is just pure fact. I am as disappointed as anyone that we ended up only getting 1 point, but it doesn't matter, it doesn't mean we will not get promoted. Your endless moaning and negativity take away much of the pleasure people on this board get from watching and supporting Saints. You need to understand football, and the first thing you need to wake up to is that each match is contested by 2 teams. Jeez some people... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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