modern matron Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Form since 28th December - Home - Played 6, won 5, drawn 1, lost 0, scored 16 conceded 2, 16 points Away - Played 9, won 5, drawn 2, lost 2, scored 20 conceded 10 17 points pretty good eh? I think that this shows how ell we have been performing over a long period, and bodes well for the run in! I presume this will silence the Adkins doubters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 but we are rubbish and adkins needs to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Performances are still under par. Mother Theresa should be able to get this side playing just a tad more attractively and with more dominance. We should still gain promotion however. Fingers crossed. Not that we should rely on crossing our fingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Disagee Performances have become more consistent as NA has built a team to win games rather than be attractive and lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 (edited) Disagee Performances have become more consistent as NA has built a team to win games rather than be attractive and lose. Oh well,that makes it alright then. Shame he can't combine winning and attractive football. I thought that was the case for his appointment,fast fluid football with width.Exciting English manager that we should be lucky to have. Or is it cunningly disguised as hoofball. He should be done under trades discription. Edited 13 March, 2011 by saint lard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Oh well,that makes it alright then. Well yes, it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Yeah, it does. And we are still pretty attractive when we need to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 He's right you know. It does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Form since 28th December - Home - Played 6, won 5, drawn 1, lost 0, scored 16 conceded 2, 16 points Away - Played 9, won 5, drawn 2, lost 2, scored 20 conceded 10 17 points pretty good eh? I think that this shows how ell we have been performing over a long period, and bodes well for the run in! I presume this will silence the Adkins doubters? wrong! Only today - .... inconsistancy,underperformance and relying on hope that we go up, instead of paving the way with the squad we have at our disposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 There's no doubt Adkins is doing a good job. His predecesessor did a shocking one. The bloke before that also did a good job. If it were not for the Wilkins debacle, we could easily be top, or at least within a point or two of Brighton. Cortese has cost me a significant sum of money! Thankfully, I should get my stake back as I backed us each way, but really with our resources we should have won this league in a hack canter. If only Brighton would slip up we still might nick it, but that could just be my wallet talking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 I do think the club shot themselves in the foot slightly by banging on about a passing game. I just want us promoted though, not bothered how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 I do think the club shot themselves in the foot slightly by banging on about a passing game. I just want us promoted though, not bothered how. I agree. Goals count, passing doesn't. Once we get into the Premiership and start challenging for the top six, then we can start worrying about how we play!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 33 points from 15 games is pretty good. But not jaw-droppingly amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 My goodness,what low expectations we have. Things better change if/when we reach the CCC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsaint Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 frankly mosy of us just want promotion by any honest means. And we DO play some attractive football. both the first two goals against Yeovil were well worth waiting for, even if some of the other stuff was ordinary. Keep up the current results and we will be happy enough come May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 My goodness,what low expectations we have. Things better change if/when we reach the CCC. If you're referring to the 'passing game', who would you like to be a fan of tonight, Arsenal or United?? I'll take Fergie any day, much as I love watching Arsenal in full flow... There is only one team in the world who play passing football every game and still win trophy after trophy, and we're a few years off needing to compete with them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Oh well,that makes it alright then. Shame he can't combine winning and attractive football. I thought that was the case for his appointment,fast fluid football with width.Exciting English manager that we should be lucky to have. Or is it cunningly disguised as hoofball. He should be done under trades discription.Do you have sex with fish per chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkins Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 I do think the club shot themselves in the foot slightly by banging on about a passing game. I just want us promoted though, not bothered how. Interesting that you believe we have shot ourselves in the foot by declaring we want to play a passing game but what are your opinions of Brighton this season? They above all else want to play a passing game. Poyet openly admits that is the first thing in his mind and if players don't bring the ball down and pass it they will be out. He even takes all flak for mistakes that come from trying to pass the ball, and unless the ball is a 50/50 one he wants his players to attempt to bring it down. But our talk of a passing game is a hindrance? Personally, I'd argue that like Brighton fans I know, we are better against better teams. Therefore against terrible football teams we are going to have to be patient and take results and goals however they may come. We try and play our football and ensure that the quality comes through in the end. Against better teams our performances will get better because naturally it becomes an open game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Well yes, it does. Yeah, it does. And we are still pretty attractive when we need to be. frankly mosy of us just want promotion by any honest means. And we DO play some attractive football. both the first two goals against Yeovil were well worth waiting for, even if some of the other stuff was ordinary. Keep up the current results and we will be happy enough come May. So we played some good stuff against Yeovil. Well,the two goals anyway. Barring that, we have been ordinary. Hardly revolutionary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Adkins is doing well, there is obviously room for improvement but anyone who doubts he is doing a bad job needs to look at the state of Charlton and Sheff Weds - now there is two sh!t managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Do you have sex with fish per chance? Nah.....but you argued your point very well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 not sure why you are pretending to be Alpine, he's not the sharpest tool in the box to model yourself on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 So we played some good stuff against Yeovil. Well,the two goals anyway. Barring that, we have been ordinary. Hardly revolutionary. 9 points out of a possible 9. Bournemouth - haven't been beaten at home since the start of December, and we won 3-1 there. Colchester - hadn't been beaten at home since November, and we go there and win 2-0. Yeovil - not a great game, but 3 points , 3 goals and job done. All that's needed at this stage of the season. But those 2 away results are stand out for me - terrific results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Nah.....but you argued your point very well Oooooh, a clever response, I'm sorry for thinking you must be anti-southampton, where on earth could I have picked up that opinion???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsaint Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 funny game football. I mean, with our players and resources we should be tearing up league 1, and playing football like Arsenal. Thats it,, we need to try to play the arsenal way. if only we could have beat barca, and then ....OH. If NA gets us promoted, he has done his job, if not, he's failed. All WE can do is give him and the team 100% backing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 We are not playing as well, but I just think the set up is different. We are hard to beat and on a good run. I have been saying that we are off form and winning, but I now think this is the way we are shaped to play, and if it continues we will go up. I just hope we do not give Bournemouth the chance to pay us back for the 3 defeats this season, by getting them in the playoffs!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 13 March, 2011 Author Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Oh well,that makes it alright then. Shame he can't combine winning and attractive football. I thought that was the case for his appointment,fast fluid football with width.Exciting English manager that we should be lucky to have. Or is it cunningly disguised as hoofball. He should be done under trades discription. Sorry you are being very unfair - 36 goal in 15 games speaks for itself. The important thing is results and promotion.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 not sure why you are pretending to be Alpine, he's not the sharpest tool in the box to model yourself on! I am certainly not modelling myself on anyone. My opinoins alone are the ones i am vocalising. I can handle being in the minority. I have been resolute in my thoughts and nothing but consistant. However much you may disagree with them,i am entitled to make them known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Oooooh, a clever response, I'm sorry for thinking you must be anti-southampton, where on earth could I have picked up that opinion???? I can assure you i am Saints through and through,from my days in the family centre at the Dell till this very moment. I am just someone with a differing opinion,does that then not make me a saints supporter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Not a dig lard, since i don't know you from Adam, but do you go to games? My personal thoughts would be that we're not playing as good football as we did under Pardew, and we have a tendency to only play for periods of games with a lot of crap in the middle. BUT We're winning more consistently than we have been and picking up results in the difficult away games that we weren't last season. I am however a little worried by the amount we drift in and out of games at times, i hope that's just the result of having such a bitty string of games and this will change when we're more games (and with key players fit). Still think we've got enough to do it, but it's going to be very, very tight in the run in and i wouldn't be surprised to see it go to the last game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsaint Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 I am certainly not modelling myself on anyone. My opinoins alone are the ones i am vocalising. I can handle being in the minority. I have been resolute in my thoughts and nothing but consistant. However much you may disagree with them,i am entitled to make them known. well, you deserve credit for being a Saint in gosport anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Sorry you are being very unfair - 36 goal in 15 games speaks for itself. The important thing is results and promotion.... Very true. But are you not just a little disappointed in the manner we are getting these results. And no i don't expect us to play champagne/Arsenal like football,but by christ we have a sqaud capable of playing far better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 (edited) Not a dig lard, since i don't know you from Adam, but do you go to games? My personal thoughts would be that we're not playing as good football as we did under Pardew, and we have a tendency to only play for periods of games with a lot of crap in the middle. BUT We're winning more consistently than we have been and picking up results in the difficult away games that we weren't last season. I am however a little worried by the amount we drift in and out of games at times, i hope that's just the result of having such a bitty string of games and this will change when we're more games (and with key players fit). Still think we've got enough to do it, but it's going to be very, very tight in the run in and i wouldn't be surprised to see it go to the last game. I don't go to as many nowadays due to work and being a single dad. But i have seen games this season and been and felt i have been left a little shortchanged due to the rhetoric spouted by Adkins and also what was rammed down my throat about how good he was. Couple that with the sqaud we have we are not as convincing as results would have us/others believe. I don't think we are playing aswell as we did under Pardew,at best we are mediocre,which is not good enough. Adkins is at the helm of a very capable squad,yet we are underperforming. The results are carrying him,yet the playing style is no different to what we have seen before,in fact i would go as far as to say it is very poor. He is not getting the best out of what is at his disposal,whereas it seems others are overachieving which in turn is making us even more mediocre. Is it not in the managers remit to make the players exel and go beyond there natural talent,if so Adkins is failing where others are exelling. Edited 13 March, 2011 by saint lard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Very true. But are you not just a little disappointed in the manner we are getting these results. And no i don't expect us to play champagne/Arsenal like football,but by christ we have a sqaud capable of playing far better. define playing better or are you another one who expects the opposition to roll over and let us play pretty football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 We do to other 3rd division outfits what Man Utd did to us in the FA Cup a few weeks ago - play only moderately well for long periods - give the opposition a chance - but ultimately beat them with that little bit of extra class we possess. Even yesterday despite a convincing final scoreline you couldn't really claim in all honesty we were the better team in the 1st half could you ? And that inconsistency is (as I see it) the story of our season. We are a good team that fully deserves its top 6 place, but one that remains rather less than the sum of its parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 well, you deserve credit for being a Saint in gosport anyway! It's not been easy i can tell you. Try raising a little'un as a saint down here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Did someone mention Mother Theresa & Dominace in the same post? That brought to mind Dominant Nun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alejam Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 33 points from 15 games is pretty good. But not jaw-droppingly amazing. Not jaw-droppingly amazing..Really?? That equates to over 100 points in a season form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 I am certainly not modelling myself on anyone. My opinoins alone are the ones i am vocalising. I can handle being in the minority. I have been resolute in my thoughts and nothing but consistant. However much you may disagree with them,i am entitled to make them known. unfortunately that falls down as you don't seem to know what consistant means! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 I am certainly not modelling myself on anyone. My opinoins alone are the ones i am vocalising. I can handle being in the minority. I have been resolute in my thoughts and nothing but consistant. However much you may disagree with them,i am entitled to make them known. alpine saint made that EXACT post last week. Word for word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 define playing better or are you another one who expects the opposition to roll over and let us play pretty football Ok i will try... Last season both individually and collectively we played with confidence and a swagger. When we took to the field i thought we were unbeatable and the players gave that out as a sense of matter of fact. Players appear to be playing within themsleves,scared to show what the can do. It seems that the reigns have been pulled in and self expression is no longer allowed. We seem nervous,that can be echoed in the fans both on here on matchdays and at St Marys. Whereas a shortwhile back gung ho and the 'we will win' was the order of the day. I have backed us to win in every game on the prediction league,maybe foolishly,if you look at how many are more cautious with their prdictions it is really surprising. Something is pulling us back,my conclusion it is Adkins. Harding,Lambert,Fonte and others are a shadow of themselves. All imo.and i do not expect anyone to agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 alpine saint made that EXACT post last week. Word for word. I must be as predictable as yourself in that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 yeah forgot about the amazing home games against oldham last season..and the fantastic away days to colchester,, tranmere etc yep, we were unbeatable last season...finishing a heady 7th place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Ok i will try... Last season both individually and collectively we played with confidence and a swagger. When we took to the field i thought we were unbeatable and the players gave that out as a sense of matter of fact. Players appear to be playing within themsleves,scared to show what the can do. It seems that the reigns have been pulled in and self expression is no longer allowed. We seem nervous,that can be echoed in the fans both on here on matchdays and at St Marys. Whereas a shortwhile back gung ho and the 'we will win' was the order of the day. I have backed us to win in every game on the prediction league,maybe foolishly,if you look at how many are more cautious with their prdictions it is really surprising. Something is pulling us back,my conclusion it is Adkins. Harding,Lambert,Fonte and others are a shadow of themselves. All imo.and i do not expect anyone to agree. I do understand your point, but there is one massive problem that had been addressed this year. While at our peak under Pardew we were magnificent... but also... we were utterly predictable and much, much easier play defensively against. We would just have kept attacking in swathes... gentle play in midfield played to the wings or using Rickie as a focal point. It was unplayable if other teams came to attack, but if they parked the bus... we were stuck. This year we havn't reached the same highs but we have been far, far more effective. We have had more then one plan. (4-4-2 and 4-3-3 being used at times) Neither plan has been as attractive but we have had more then one trick to rely on... and that has made us far more difficult to play against as the opposing managers have not known what to expect. Harding has not been a shadow, he has just needed to be more defensively sharp and thus cannot contribute as much going forward. Equally more pressure is on Fonte. Lambert is now playing a differing role... needing to support as well as being a focal point. He is supplying just as much as he is scoring. It's been more frustrating to watch us this year... but if it ends in promotion it will be more then worth the sacrifice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Your glass is certainly half empty. Why not look at it the other way... in your opinion we're not playing well, our key players aren't at their best and our football isn't as attractive as it could be, yet we're still winning games, scoring well, maintaining a good points-per-game average, defending well, rising up the league and we are still a very good shout for automatic promotion. All that, despite things being as bad as you see them. Surely that should make you happy? Just think about how we could be doing if things were as good as you expect them to be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 yeah forgot about the amazing home games against oldham last season..and the fantastic away days to colchester,, tranmere etc yep, we were unbeatable last season...finishing a heady 7th place Look at what he came into. It was a shell of a football club in comparison to what Adkins has . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Look at what he came into. It was a shell of a football club in comparison to what Adkins has . behave...we had millions to spend....a fuking bucket load more than other managers.. to take 10 games to get the first win in division 3..was criminal and what bearing did that have come xams onwards last season..with such poor games and dropping of form from the top 6..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Your glass is certainly half empty. Why not look at it the other way... in your opinion we're not playing well, our key players aren't at their best and our football isn't as attractive as it could be, yet we're still winning games, scoring well, maintaining a good points-per-game average, defending well, rising up the league and we are still a very good shout for automatic promotion. All that, despite things being as bad as you see them. Surely that should make you happy? Just think about how we could be doing if things were as good as you expect them to be! Yeah,just think eh,iron out those things and all would be rosey. But i fear the Status Quo will remain. Que the Quo jokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 [/b] Yeah,just think eh,iron out those things and all would be rosey. But i fear the Status Quo will remain. Que the Quo jokes. Which games do you think we should have gotten better results at, since the start of this year (the time on which this thread is based)? (edit) Also, give me some examples of English teams who do meet your expectations for consistency, results and the level of performance you expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 13 March, 2011 Share Posted 13 March, 2011 Interesting that you believe we have shot ourselves in the foot by declaring we want to play a passing game but what are your opinions of Brighton this season? They above all else want to play a passing game. Poyet openly admits that is the first thing in his mind and if players don't bring the ball down and pass it they will be out. He even takes all flak for mistakes that come from trying to pass the ball, and unless the ball is a 50/50 one he wants his players to attempt to bring it down. But our talk of a passing game is a hindrance? . I just meant that it raised expectations greatly, they mightve been better off keeping schtum and perhaps then some fans wouldn't expect the team to be playing the arsenal way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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