Smirking_Saint Posted 2 April, 2011 Share Posted 2 April, 2011 Thoughts ?? IMO Adkins has more about him, he perhaps does not talk as good a game as Pardew did however has never had whispers about him in quiet corners either. Also the main difference for me was that for all the good Pardew brings to football clubs he has been a serial underachiever, mainly getting teams to fail at the final hurdle. IMO Adkins won't let us crumble in the crunch time of this season, and IMO we will achieve good things under him as when we move up into the NPC we should be able to play the football he wants due to less teams sitting back and less grounds being more like the veracity then a football pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 2 April, 2011 Share Posted 2 April, 2011 can of worms.....opened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latter day saint Posted 2 April, 2011 Share Posted 2 April, 2011 blimey, there's a couple of posters i thought would jump on this thread like a peado in a kids bouncy castle. plenty of time yet i suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 2 April, 2011 Share Posted 2 April, 2011 blimey, there's a couple of posters i thought would jump on this thread like a peado in a kids bouncy castle. plenty of time yet i suppose. No point really. You get the same people insisting that Adkins is better whilst shouting down those who dare to suggest that Pardew was a lot better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 2 April, 2011 Share Posted 2 April, 2011 Gets a bit boring. Pardew isn't as likeable, smug C, IMO. Most non-saints fans I know don't like pardew either. I didn't trust him. Kind of think he had the Newcastle job last summer, it would explain his lack of effort. Adkins deserves success more. Hes more down to earth, more intelligent and infinitely more likeable. You earn success. No one just deserves it. Why does he deserve it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niemi14 Posted 2 April, 2011 Share Posted 2 April, 2011 People say Pardew talks a better game ... I think Pardew delivers more on the pitch, Adkins loves to talk in quips and anecdotes. I think he IS likeable and must be given credit for the job he did at S****horpe. However, there was nowhere near the same level of pressure at Glandford Park as there is at St Mary's and I don't think Adkins is the man to deliver the success we crave. Sacking Pardew will prove to be a mistake. Being likeable does not make for a successful manager, just look at Ferguson, Wenger, Capello. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 2 April, 2011 Share Posted 2 April, 2011 Adkins knows how to deliver from set-pieces and knows how to change a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 2 April, 2011 Share Posted 2 April, 2011 Pardew is sort of a cup manager in my eyes great at getting a short run of results JPT, I was gutted when he was sacked after 4-0 win at start of season But in nutty nige we trust Adkins is possibly a league manager doesn't get too up or down over 1 game but looks at bigger picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 2 April, 2011 Share Posted 2 April, 2011 think Nigel is the better manager for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 2 April, 2011 Share Posted 2 April, 2011 People say Pardew talks a better game ... I think Pardew delivers more on the pitch, Adkins loves to talk in quips and anecdotes. I think he IS likeable and must be given credit for the job he did at S****horpe. However, there was nowhere near the same level of pressure at Glandford Park as there is at St Mary's and I don't think Adkins is the man to deliver the success we crave. Sacking Pardew will prove to be a mistake. Being likeable does not make for a successful manager, just look at Ferguson, Wenger, Capello. How so? Nobody can tell where we might have been this season had Pardew remained. Furthermore, there have been some likeable managers who have achieved great success, such as Matt Busby and Bobby Robson and personally I would describe Wenger as likeable. Each is judged on their achievements not their personalities. Getting Scun thorpe to the position they held on the limited resources available to him is the equal or better to anything that Pardew achieved IMO. The success we crave begins with promotion out of this division and Adkins is doing a decent enough job of that. If he succeeds, then he can only be judged on how he does at the next level and then the Premiership if he gets us there. Pardew has been up there and his record is not brilliant at that level. Adkins is so far an unknown quantity at Premiership level, so it is not really possible to assess how he might do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 2 April, 2011 Share Posted 2 April, 2011 Is this thread going to be repeated EVERY week?? Pardew has gone. Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 2 April, 2011 Share Posted 2 April, 2011 Does it matter? Martin O'neil is better than both them........................... Personally I find Nigel rather irratating but as long as were winning I don't really care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 3 April, 2011 Share Posted 3 April, 2011 Does it matter? Martin O'neil is better than both them........................... Hmmmmmm bet his garden is looking very nice at the moment...........................Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 3 April, 2011 Share Posted 3 April, 2011 I never fell for AP, One dimensional and not a clue what to do when it isn't going his way or when it comes to playing away to Wycombe. I always think back to Swindon away last season, 3,500 saints jumping up and down chanting "SUB, SUB, SUB, SUB, SUB..." on 70 minutes because it was so blatantly not working, his first change came on 80 minutes and was far too late in the game to have any impact. I gave him the benefit of the doubt as it was within 3 weeks of him being in charge, but he never did show any sign of having a plan b. Adkins yesterday saw that it wasn't working well enough, made the change and we turned round a 0-2 defecit. There is no chance we would have done that under AP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghq Posted 3 April, 2011 Share Posted 3 April, 2011 As yet I've not seen Saints play under Adkins. Going along at the moment with good results, so can't complain and hope, as we all do, that it continues. However, I have reservations about the manner of some of the wins and will hold off until 2nd place is confirmed and are championship bound. I hate to think what this place will be like if we stagger in the run in and blow it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 3 April, 2011 Share Posted 3 April, 2011 I never fell for AP, One dimensional and not a clue what to do when it isn't going his way or when it comes to playing away to Wycombe. I always think back to Swindon away last season, 3,500 saints jumping up and down chanting "SUB, SUB, SUB, SUB, SUB..." on 70 minutes because it was so blatantly not working, his first change came on 80 minutes and was far too late in the game to have any impact. I gave him the benefit of the doubt as it was within 3 weeks of him being in charge, but he never did show any sign of having a plan b. Adkins yesterday saw that it wasn't working well enough, made the change and we turned round a 0-2 defecit. There is no chance we would have done that under AP. I was also at the game, do you not remember the absolute dross that was on the bench that day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so22saint Posted 3 April, 2011 Share Posted 3 April, 2011 Can somebody start a Branfoot vs Nicholl thread please. Or Hoddle vs Gray - that ought to get a few posters out and about. Maybe Wigley vs Strachan - there's so much to compare there. How about Lowe vs Wilde chairman thread. FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 3 April, 2011 Share Posted 3 April, 2011 I was also at the game, do you not remember the absolute dross that was on the bench that day? Aye, and on the pitch. Patterson, James, Mellis, Thomas etc... We were dire though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draino76 Posted 3 April, 2011 Share Posted 3 April, 2011 What about Adkins vs Nichol? That would be a good fred. Or Cortese vs Askam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan56 Posted 3 April, 2011 Share Posted 3 April, 2011 Great shame that he (and others before him) don't know how to defend set pieces!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 3 April, 2011 Share Posted 3 April, 2011 Great shame that he (and others before him) don't know how to defend set pieces!! That's wrong - we are much tighter at (as well as dangerous from) setpieces under NA though credit probably has to go to Andy Crosby. Yesterday was a blip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 3 April, 2011 Share Posted 3 April, 2011 I prefer Adkins. Much more likeable, more personality and we're more organised as a team now than we were under Pardew - the number of goals we've scored from set-pieces is testimony to that. I think our future is bright under NA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 3 April, 2011 Share Posted 3 April, 2011 I don't care either way as long as we get promoted this season. If Cortese prefers Adkins over Pardew & that gives us more chance of the manager being allowed to sign the right players the Adkins being here can only be positive. Not yet seen Adkins team play, but from what I have seen on the TV would a fair comment be that Pardew potentially sets his side up better from the off but Adkins is the more flexible and likely/able to change if its not working? ie Pardew wouldn't have got us back from 2 down yesterday but may not have been 2 down in the first place? Anyway it's all irrelevent as Nigel's our man & Pardew is history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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