shurlock Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 I thought we were being linked with Chester from Hull? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 Well I've been told the Sharp transfer is a done deal as well, source is tenous I guess - friend of someone who works at the training ground. They were also correct on Chappy being out for another four weeks. Could of course be wrong but thought I'd pass it on. FWIW I'd have preferred Maynard but I really think Sharp has something to offer as well and that it would be a good deal for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 No way should we sit with what we have...how can we? Barnard out for months, Connolly just come back from ages out, Guly the enigma...did we learn nothing from the Doncaster game? We will never have a better chance of promotion..sitting on your hands is not an option.read my post again. I said sit tight with what we have with a loan. i.e. don't spend £3-5m on a player that is not good enough for the Premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 Well I've been told the Sharp transfer is a done deal as wellwe seemed to be so close last time that it feels like it has be us that is buying him. The Adkins link is so strong, he can't go anywhere else can he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFHP Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 Just recycle the same threads from the summer but hope the outcome is different and we actually sign one of them. I doubt it myself. I was right last summer and I will be right again. You were wrong about finishing 17th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 (edited) I have to say I'm not that excited by the thought if signing Sharp or Maynard to be honest. Neither grab me nor look value for money. The championship seems to have a lack of really outstanding strikers and we are just on one of those periods when you overspend on almost everyone. The right time to look abroad if you ask me, or sit tight with what we have plus a loan and buy in the summer. Promotion this season is there to be taken and ours to lose. I very much doubt we could get a January loan of a better goalscorer than Sharp and a foreign player will likely take time to acclimatise. Clearly its possible to get promoted without any additions, but getting Sharp in will make it more likely - and if he cant cut it in the premiership we could easily sell him again for £3m. Edited 26 December, 2011 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardc Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 do you mean McClean? yep that will be the one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 we seemed to be so close last time that it feels like it has be us that is buying him. The Adkins link is so strong, he can't go anywhere else can he? TBF I have no inside info on why it fell down in the summer but there does seem to be extenuating circumstances. I agree though that the fact we were so open about the bid, and Adkins links to the player makes it an easy link this January but also believable as well. Personally I think it's a good move - Sharp will help our ball retention up front for a start. People can praise Guly as much as they like but I think an orthodox striker would be a bit cuter at keeping the ball and giving Lambert a bit more of a chance (and I'm not knocking Guly). Of course the other thing is that Sharp can score from half chances. We're still making chances but we need to put more away and from what I've seen Sharp could do that. Could he cut it in the prem? Who knows but I wouldn't rule it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggers Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 Really need a source for stuff like this. I'm related to one of his best mates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 Really need a source for stuff like this. I'm related to one of his best mates. Oh why didnt you say in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 I'm related to one of his best mates. Wow what a big family you have. First James Beatties brother in law and now related to one of Billy Sharp's best mates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggers Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 go figure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 Helloooo Sheffield united ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 and if he cant cut it in the premiership we could easily sell him again for £3m.maybe that's what Sheffield United thought when they spent over £2m on him, only for him to under perform and get only half back. He's not a bad player, I just wonder if we could get better for £3m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 maybe that's what Sheffield United thought when they spent over £2m on him, only for him to under perform and get only half back. He's not a bad player, I just wonder if we could get better for £3m. probably not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickyhale Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 People expecting us to sign either Maynard or Sharp will end up very disappointed. For sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 probably notwould you get Matt Phillips for £3m? How about DJ Cambell or Charlie Austin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 would you get Matt Phillips for £3m? How about DJ Cambell or Charlie Austin? you can't just pick anyone up for £3m.......what if they are not for sale sharp and maynard are (it seems) and the players available they would be good bets for us I'm sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 For sure Is that a guess or do you know for certain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 Is that a guess or do you know for certain? No one knows anything for sure, other than NA and NC, so it's probably a guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 Would love to see us sign Sharp - I think he is exactly what we need. If we pushed Guly wide right and then had Lambo and Sharp up top we'd be pretty formidable I think. Sharp is a great finisher and would put away some of the chances Guly has fluffed over the past few weeks. He would also hopefully be a damn sight more reliable in away games. Of the names mentioned I think Sharp is the most likely, but knowing the new Saints way - we'll end up with some Italian we haven't heard of who will still turn out to be good even though everyone on here will get through the roof when he signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 Sure = free from doubt as to the reliability, character, action, etc., of something: to be sure of one's data. confident, as of something expected: sure of success. convinced, fully persuaded, or positive: to be sure of a person's guilt. assured or certain beyond question: a sure victory. worthy of confidence; reliable; stable: a sure messenger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 There is a player at Chelsea who they are looking to loan out in the 2nd half of the season. He's young, powerful, pacey....Romelu lukaku Worth a quick loan offer for a few months? I can't see many premiership teams giving him lots of games, and what better way for him to adjust to English football than to come a few miles down the Motorway to top of the table Southampton... Stoke tried to sign him at the back end of August, but they were told 'no' because he'd already played for 2 clubs during that transfer window (then they went out and brought Jerome anyway). AFAIK he's free to be loaned out after January, and I doubt Chelsea see much benefit in him going abroad when they'd probably prefer him to adjust to english football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 Lukaku would be fantastic - I don't think we'd get him though. If it were possible I'd like to see Kenwyne back as well - despite the negative comments on here I thought he was brilliant in our playoff season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itchen_block4 Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 I have to say I'm not that excited by the thought if signing Sharp or Maynard to be honest. Neither grab me nor look value for money. The championship seems to have a lack of really outstanding strikers and we are just on one of those periods when you overspend on almost everyone. The right time to look abroad if you ask me, or sit tight with what we have plus a loan and buy in the summer. The outstanding Championship striker already plays for us. Most of the strikers that come close play for teams in the promotion race as well and wouldn't sign for us. Of the rest, there's Jutkiewicz, Sharp, Maynard, Sordell and Jay Rod. Rhodes from L1 too. I'm sure that any one of those could do a job. We're not in the PL yet and if one of those can get us there (which I think they can) it will be money well spent. All of those are good players with enough dimensions to their game to adapt to the PL in the right setup. Let's imagine that we haven't found a suitable striker from abroad yet, who do you suggest bringing in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 you can't just pick anyone up for £3m.......what if they are not for sale sharp and maynard are (it seems) and the players available they would be good bets for us I'm sure Good point, if they are the only two strikers available then so be it, but the championship is full of sides talking a good game but most in desperate financial strife, so £3m might twist a lot of chairman's arms. What makes you sure, by the way? Neither looked all that in the recent games against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 I wonder what Jay Rod is worth now? He's having a cracking season to be fair, think he's on 14 in all comps now. I think Burnley were interested in what we had to offer, but we weren't interested on what they then demanded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 Let's imagine that we haven't found a suitable striker from abroad yet, who do you suggest bringing in?DJ Cambell. Proven in the Premiership. Pace and finishing. QPR looking to spend might mean he surplus to requirements. As Delldays say availability is the most important thing, but Matt Phillips would kill two birds with one stone as he could play up front or out wide. Charlie Austin has impressed me whenever I've seen him. Not liked as a person, but he has ability and in our side would score goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 I wonder what Jay Rod is worth now? He's having a cracking season to be fair, think he's on 14 in all comps now. I think Burnley were interested in what we had to offer, but we weren't interested on what they then demanded. he scored five of them against lower league teams int he cup. He's on 9 in the league and he's their penalty taker. not stellar. If it weren't for his dodg shoulder, Austin would be the guy we should be looking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 I wonder what Jay Rod is worth now? He's having a cracking season to be fair, think he's on 14 in all comps now. I think Burnley were interested in what we had to offer, but we weren't interested on what they then demanded. Any idea what we actually offered for Jay-Rod? I can't remember what was legit, and what was "ITK" on here. Lukaku would be unbelievable, but gotta believe someone like Everton/Wigan/Bolton would get the march on us for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 actually looks like only 7 in the league including one penalty. Where did you get 14 goals from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 actually he has 12 goals and only 7 are in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itchen_block4 Posted 27 December, 2011 Share Posted 27 December, 2011 DJ Cambell. Proven in the Premiership. Pace and finishing. QPR looking to spend might mean he surplus to requirements. As Delldays say availability is the most important thing, but Matt Phillips would kill two birds with one stone as he could play up front or out wide. Charlie Austin has impressed me whenever I've seen him. Not liked as a person, but he has ability and in our side would score goals. I'm surprised to learn that DJ Campbell is 30 He must have been older than I thought he was when he came from the non-league. He wouldn't fit with our plan of building for the future. Austin is no better than those others mentioned. I personally don't really like him as a player either. Too much like Rasiak for my liking - always in the right place for a ball in the box, but not a team player. I'd take Sharp or Maynard over either of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 December, 2011 Share Posted 27 December, 2011 actually he has 12 goals and only 7 are in the league. Didn't he get a fourtrick in the League Cup or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 December, 2011 Share Posted 27 December, 2011 If it were possible I'd like to see Kenwyne back as well - despite the negative comments on here I thought he was brilliant in our playoff season. He went on strike and refused to play for Saints until he was sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 December, 2011 Share Posted 27 December, 2011 He went on strike and refused to play for Saints until he was sold. Tevez should give him royalties for patenting the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 27 December, 2011 Share Posted 27 December, 2011 Austin is no better than those others mentioned. I personally don't really like him as a player either. Too much like Rasiak for my liking - always in the right place for a ball in the box, but not a team player. I'd take Sharp or Maynard over either of those. I used to think that, but listening to reports on 5live after a few Burnley matches, I have heard comments as to how hardworking the bloke is for the team and compliments paid to his 'link up play' etc. Personally I'm not sure about the other two either due to injury record (Sharp) and whether Maynard despite his pace,would fit into our team ethic and style of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 27 December, 2011 Share Posted 27 December, 2011 Good point, if they are the only two strikers available then so be it, but the championship is full of sides talking a good game but most in desperate financial strife, so £3m might twist a lot of chairman's arms. What makes you sure, by the way? Neither looked all that in the recent games against us. Maynard has been crap all season according to Brizzle fans but Sharp has been very solid in a poor Donnie side. Now that they're just starting to pick up form and should easily finish outside the relegation places I'm not sure they'd be too willing to sell him and rock the boat though they are in financial trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 27 December, 2011 Share Posted 27 December, 2011 A question regarding Sharp, if any have seen him play or know, what is his style of play, and what does he bring to the team ? He clearly has a good scoring record, but I don't think he has blistering pace, so does he also offer some aggression up front (as Barnard might), or guile (as Connolly) ? Or is he just an out and out scorer as someone described Austin above, "right place, right time" ? which in itself is a pretty good skill to have. Before anyone answers, I accept he is currently available for selection whereas LB is not, and it will probably be only another five matches before DC also runs out of steam. So not intended merely as comparison with these two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 December, 2011 Share Posted 27 December, 2011 I used to think that, but listening to reports on 5live after a few Burnley matches, I have heard comments as to how hardworking the bloke is for the team and compliments paid to his 'link up play' etc. Personally I'm not sure about the other two either due to injury record (Sharp) and whether Maynard despite his pace,would fit into our team ethic and style of play. A lot of decent modern footballers are just what there manager wants them to be. Players don't decide tactics and game plans, they comply with the wishes of the manager and coaching staff.Most decent players have a lot in their respective lockers but you don't always see all of it in any given match.You only have to look at Lambert to know that,he has the ability to do virtually anything he's asked, it's up to the manager to ask the right questions of his players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South City Si Posted 27 December, 2011 Share Posted 27 December, 2011 The question for me is has Sharp got much pace? As that is for me what we are really missing. Guly's idleness shows if he hangs around enough he'll get goals, what we need is someone when we move forward quickly we don't have to wait for ages til the rest of the team catch up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 December, 2011 Share Posted 27 December, 2011 (edited) Maynard has been crap all season according to Brizzle fans but Sharp has been very solid in a poor Donnie side. Now that they're just starting to pick up form and should easily finish outside the relegation places I'm not sure they'd be too willing to sell him and rock the boat though they are in financial trouble. Donny aren't picking up form really,they keep losing, they beat us in their cup final it's true but they lost again yesterday and are still next to bottom.They've lost Fortune back to wherever he came from and without him there's nothing to provide Sharp with the ammunition he needs. Edited 27 December, 2011 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Jim Posted 27 December, 2011 Share Posted 27 December, 2011 There is a player at Chelsea who they are looking to loan out in the 2nd half of the season. He's young, powerful, pacey....Romelu lukaku Worth a quick loan offer for a few months? I can't see many premiership teams giving him lots of games, and what better way for him to adjust to English football than to come a few miles down the Motorway to top of the table Southampton... Stoke tried to sign him at the back end of August, but they were told 'no' because he'd already played for 2 clubs during that transfer window (then they went out and brought Jerome anyway). AFAIK he's free to be loaned out after January, and I doubt Chelsea see much benefit in him going abroad when they'd probably prefer him to adjust to english football. OK who's just been on Wiki? - it says: Personal information Full name Romelu Benjamin Lukaku Date of birth 13 May 1993 (age 18)[1] Place of birth Antwerp, Belgium Height 1.91 m (6 ft 3 in)[2] Playing position Striker Club information Current club Chelsea Number 18 Youth career 1999–2003 Rupel Boom 2003–2006 Lierse 2006–2009 Anderlecht Senior career* Years Team Apps† (Gls)† 2009–2011 Anderlecht 73 (33) 2011– Chelsea 3 (0) 2012- Southampton (loan) 0 (0) National team‡ 2008– Belgium U21 5 (2) 2010– Belgium 13 (2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itchen_block4 Posted 27 December, 2011 Share Posted 27 December, 2011 A question regarding Sharp, if any have seen him play or know, what is his style of play, and what does he bring to the team ? He clearly has a good scoring record, but I don't think he has blistering pace, so does he also offer some aggression up front (as Barnard might), or guile (as Connolly) ? Or is he just an out and out scorer as someone described Austin above, "right place, right time" ? which in itself is a pretty good skill to have. Before anyone answers, I accept he is currently available for selection whereas LB is not, and it will probably be only another five matches before DC also runs out of steam. So not intended merely as comparison with these two[/sZE] He works very hard and finishes his chances. Not the quickest, but he often finds space behind defences. He's basically an upgrade on Barnard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patred44 Posted 27 December, 2011 Share Posted 27 December, 2011 up here Ipswich fans firmly believe Sharp will be signing for us the local is reporting that ITFC are not pursuing him now http://www.greenun24.co.uk/ipswich-town/billy_sharp_out_of_town_s_price_range_claims_jewell_1_1162184 I was told by someone at Ipswich (some of you know my connections with that club) "We might as well just all pack up and give you lot the Championship title" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 27 December, 2011 Share Posted 27 December, 2011 (edited) A question regarding Sharp, if any have seen him play or know, what is his style of play, and what does he bring to the team ? He clearly has a good scoring record, but I don't think he has blistering pace, so does he also offer some aggression up front (as Barnard might), or guile (as Connolly) ? Or is he just an out and out scorer as someone described Austin above, "right place, right time" ? which in itself is a pretty good skill to have. right time and place seems to be his main attribute, with some decent finishing. He doesn't have any great pace, but he's er, sharp. If we create chances he'll take them, but will he help us create more chances? Edited 27 December, 2011 by Chez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 December, 2011 Share Posted 27 December, 2011 up here Ipswich fans firmly believe Sharp will be signing for us the local is reporting that ITFC are not pursuing him now http://www.greenun24.co.uk/ipswich-town/billy_sharp_out_of_town_s_price_range_claims_jewell_1_1162184 I was told by someone at Ipswich (some of you know my connections with that club) "We might as well just all pack up and give you lot the Championship title" Can't say I'm overfussed whether we sign Sharp or not really, don't think he'll add a great deal that we don't already have,lacks dynamism for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 27 December, 2011 Share Posted 27 December, 2011 He works very hard and finishes his chances. Not the quickest, but he often finds space behind defences. He's basically an upgrade on Barnard. That's pretty accurate actually. He literally would be a very similar move in the sense of snapping up one of the divisions best strikers. (3m doesn't really compare to the 250k we got Barney for, though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 27 December, 2011 Share Posted 27 December, 2011 Nice article on him.... http://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/rovers/paul_goodwin_s_verdict_sharp_s_january_dilemma_will_make_or_break_rovers_season_1_4086547 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 27 December, 2011 Share Posted 27 December, 2011 right time and place seems to be his main attribute, with some decent finishing. He doesn't have any great pace, but he's er, sharp. If we create chances he'll take them, but will he help us create more chances? Chez. By a long chalk you consistently provide the most objective and insightful analyisis of players and games on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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