saintbletch Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 ..as part of European restructuring plan. Just been announced on Sky News. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Ouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 All I've seen is that Genk is closing. The Transit plant is a shadow of its former self nowadays anyway. Chassis cab only, single shift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Home of the transit completes its move to Turkey then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Home of the transit completes its move to Turkey then. I wouldn't buy one of those then. They'd be clapped out by the time they were driven here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Sad news for Southampton.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 On top of B&Q and Skandia as well - been a cr4ppy October for the city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 sad news indeed if true,my heart goes out to all the people who work there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Wonder if they've been funded by the EU to move and kill off British jobs, like Twinings tea were in Andover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 end of an era Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Windmill Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 B&Q (Kingfisher) are outsourcing to India. I escaped just in time. It annoys me so much that companies give their work to other countries and then wonder why no one has any money to spend in their shops!! All the money being made by companies in this country is just flowing straight out into people working abroad. They're not better or cheaper either (see RBS/Natwest IT **** up) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 B&Q (Kingfisher) are outsourcing to India. I escaped just in time. It annoys me so much that companies give their work to other countries and then wonder why no one has any money to spend in their shops!! All the money being made by companies in this country is just flowing straight out into people working abroad. They're not better or cheaper either (see RBS/Natwest IT **** up) Too bleeding right.....as someone who is fighting that battle at the moment all companies want is cheap...they don't give a stuff about quality...we had the head of the UK for our customer chat to us last week that came out loud and clear. When the sh1t hits the fan at his company next year and they have no-one to fix it but an Indian with a script to follow....and 5 times the number of workers previously doing the task as the UK had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Wonder if they've been funded by the EU to move and kill off British jobs, like Twinings tea were in Andover. A good question...can anyone answer this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 A good question...can anyone answer this? I can't answer this cos I don't know. But I do know, because it's been on the news today, that Peugeot are seeking French government funding to keep themselves going and questions are being asked as to whether the EU will allow state intervention. So it would seem odd that the EU would fund a move to Turkey whilst, at the same time, query state funding to a French car manufacturer. It seems that a lot of European car companies are experiencing difficulties and looking to their governments to help. I also heard that both Southampton MPs are looking for this government to intervene in the Ford case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 I can't answer this cos I don't know. But I do know, because it's been on the news today, that Peugeot are seeking French government funding to keep themselves going and questions are being asked as to whether the EU will allow state intervention. So it would seem odd that the EU would fund a move to Turkey whilst, at the same time, query state funding to a French car manufacturer. It seems that a lot of European car companies are experiencing difficulties and looking to their governments to help. I also heard that both Southampton MPs are looking for this government to intervene in the Ford case. It's not Peugeot per se, it's the PSA bank. Government funding to a manufacturer would not be allowed under EU rules. o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Bad news, plus British Gas earlier in the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 My uncle has worked there for decades. Gutted for him and anyone else losing their jobs, but the pattern of events is depressingly, nothing new. Manufacturing jobs moved to more cost-effective countries for a better bottom line. Though Henry Ford was vehemently anti-union, he did pay his employees very well. I wonder what he'd have made of all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Trouble is it is not just the Ford factory going is it, it will be all the Satellite factories that supply all the sub components, so the loss of 500 jobs will actually be closer to 2000 jobs not all in this area though but I previously worked for a sub supplier that worked soley for fords, can not see them making a profit if they have to ship to Turkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 On top of B&Q and Skandia as well - been a cr4ppy October for the city Terrible news. Is there actually any large company left in Southampton? I missed both of these stories, did B&Q move to segensworth with Ageas moving in? Whats the story with Skandia? They have a couple of huge offices. how many going? The city is going to be on its knees pretty soon. What can anyone do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Trouble is it is not just the Ford factory going is it, it will be all the Satellite factories that supply all the sub components, so the loss of 500 jobs will actually be closer to 2000 jobs not all in this area though but I previously worked for a sub supplier that worked soley for fords, can not see them making a profit if they have to ship to Turkey. I know that hit brum hard when the car plants closed down there, but are components for the Transit made locally? 500 is still a lot of people and if they are not spendign that effects shops and trades so will have an effect. Reduced activity at the docks for starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redondo Saint Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Truly a shame for the workforce, suppliers and support services. I think Follands (GE Hamble) is maybe the last of the big manufacturing firms left in Southampton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightysaints Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Great, we pay into the EEC who then pay turkey a regeneration grant who then invite fords on the cheap. We have indirectly laid off our workforce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 What exactly have B&Q done? They only built a new office about 3 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 What exactly have B&Q done? They only built a new office about 3 years ago. according to echo they moved into a new office in 2011 which was right next door to the old one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 according to echo they moved into a new office in 2011 which was right next door to the old one. Yeah, the big new place behind C Ford Asda Mental if they are now moving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PES Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Terrible news. Is there actually any large company left in Southampton? I missed both of these stories, did B&Q move to segensworth with Ageas moving in? Whats the story with Skandia? They have a couple of huge offices. how many going? The city is going to be on its knees pretty soon. What can anyone do? As an engineer it's always sad to see jobs like this go, never worked at Fords but did tour it once. An iconic factory building viewed everyday from the M27, apart from the obvious human cost, it will be very sad to see another south coast institution go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 What exactly have B&Q done? They only built a new office about 3 years ago. A couple of hundred jobs gone from the head office. The new office consolidated several others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Terrible news. Is there actually any large company left in Southampton? I missed both of these stories, did B&Q move to segensworth with Ageas moving in? Whats the story with Skandia? They have a couple of huge offices. how many going? The city is going to be on its knees pretty soon. What can anyone do? Skandia have shed a couple of hundred, although I suspect more will go eventually. The parent company seems to be on a crash course of rationalisation and debt paydown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 (edited) On top of B&Q and Skandia as well - been a cr4ppy October for the city Edit - answered. The British Gas place closed, how many jobs was that? 800? Edited 24 October, 2012 by Jonnyboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 Skandia have shed a couple of hundred, although I suspect more will go eventually. The parent company seems to be on a crash course of rationalisation and debt paydown. how many currently work for them in Soton? Anyone know how many work at the huge Carnival office? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essruu Posted 24 October, 2012 Share Posted 24 October, 2012 how many currently work for them in Soton? Anyone know how many work at the huge Carnival office? 1100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 25 October, 2012 Share Posted 25 October, 2012 Headline news story on BBC this morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 25 October, 2012 Share Posted 25 October, 2012 News on its possible closure, will/will not be announced till after the company/union meeting has happened at at 10am. But I believe it would be a gradual 2 year close down. Sad day indeed If it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 25 October, 2012 Share Posted 25 October, 2012 1100. is that Skandia or Carnival? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 25 October, 2012 Share Posted 25 October, 2012 (edited) Whats the deal with Skandia? are they vacating that big building in the city centre or just downsizing work force? They've just signed a new 20 yr lease. Edited 25 October, 2012 by Hatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 25 October, 2012 Share Posted 25 October, 2012 is that Skandia or Carnival? Carnival The company consolidated in the new building about 3-4 years ago Prior to that their workforce was spread around other locations, Queens Keep, Mountbatten House, Town Quay, Docks etc Understand that Soton City Council had to pull out all the stops to get them to build on the West Quay site. They were very clsoe to building a new facility at Whiteley as this suited their top man David Dingle who, I think lives in Sussex and unfortunately follows some team who have serious debts, not far from here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 25 October, 2012 Share Posted 25 October, 2012 Carnival The company consolidated in the new building about 3-4 years ago Prior to that their workforce was spread around other locations, Queens Keep, Mountbatten House, Town Quay, Docks etc Understand that Soton City Council had to pull out all the stops to get them to build on the West Quay site. They were very clsoe to building a new facility at Whiteley as this suited their top man David Dingle who, I think lives in Sussex and unfortunately follows some team who have serious debts, not far from here.yes he a big fan of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 25 October, 2012 Share Posted 25 October, 2012 Looks like it's been confirmed. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/10006351.Ford_announce_closure_of_Transit_factory/ (Also, the proof reader for that article (or even a spellchecker!) has done a terrible job...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 25 October, 2012 Share Posted 25 October, 2012 Looks like it's been confirmed. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/10006351.Ford_announce_closure_of_Transit_factory/ (Also, the proof reader for that article (or even a spellchecker!) has done a terrible job...) All these recent job losses in the area are bound to have a significant knock-on effect on the local economy. Very sad news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 25 October, 2012 Share Posted 25 October, 2012 Carnival The company consolidated in the new building about 3-4 years ago Prior to that their workforce was spread around other locations, Queens Keep, Mountbatten House, Town Quay, Docks etc Understand that Soton City Council had to pull out all the stops to get them to build on the West Quay site. They were very clsoe to building a new facility at Whiteley as this suited their top man David Dingle who, I think lives in Sussex and unfortunately follows some team who have serious debts, not far from here. pat on back to council then. Not too many other big firms left in this neck of the woods. I notice Raymarine built a similar size office at Cosham a year or so ago, and COOP have a big office at the IBM site there too. Soton needs to do more, but with no money that's not going to be easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Posted 25 October, 2012 Share Posted 25 October, 2012 Great, we pay into the EEC who then pay turkey a regeneration grant who then invite fords on the cheap. We have indirectly laid off our workforce That's what happened in the north east and Andover with twinings. Effectively British taxpayers partly paid for the move over to Poland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 25 October, 2012 Share Posted 25 October, 2012 Carnival The company consolidated in the new building about 3-4 years ago Prior to that their workforce was spread around other locations, Queens Keep, Mountbatten House, Town Quay, Docks etc Understand that Soton City Council had to pull out all the stops to get them to build on the West Quay site. They were very clsoe to building a new facility at Whiteley as this suited their top man David Dingle who, I think lives in Sussex and unfortunately follows some team who have serious debts, not far from here. Incorrect (in a way) P&O Cruises were based in Town Quay and Terminus Terrace (Richmond House) Cunard were based in Mountbatten House and Seabourn in Queens Keep, each were separate entities until The Carnival Corporation bought the lot and had the new building built, and David Dingle has jack to do with it, try Carol Marlow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 25 October, 2012 Share Posted 25 October, 2012 pat on back to council then. Not too many other big firms left in this neck of the woods. I notice Raymarine built a similar size office at Cosham a year or so ago, and COOP have a big office at the IBM site there too. Soton needs to do more, but with no money that's not going to be easy. Southern Co-operative only actually occupy one floor of the old North Harbour building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 25 October, 2012 Share Posted 25 October, 2012 Whats the deal with Skandia? are they vacating that big building in the city centre or just downsizing work force? They've just signed a new 20 yr lease. Downsizing. They have reorganised the company (again). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 25 October, 2012 Share Posted 25 October, 2012 Incorrect (in a way) P&O Cruises were based in Town Quay and Terminus Terrace (Richmond House) Cunard were based in Mountbatten House and Seabourn in Queens Keep, each were separate entities until The Carnival Corporation bought the lot and had the new building built, and David Dingle has jack to do with it, try Carol Marlow! Correct P & O/Princess Cruises was based in Richmond House (not Queens Keep as I incorrectly said) Cunard was based in Mountbatten House Subject to confirmation Seaborn I am pretty sure were also in Mountbatten House but stand to be corrected on that Part of P&O (Storesd purchasing, I think)and Swan Hellenic prior to their sell off to Lord Sterling were based at Town Quay Some of the Ops team had offices above the Mayflower Cruise Terminal Incorrect David Dingle is definately Head Honcho He is Managing Director and CEO of Carnival UK so he definately had the final word on the office build!! His No 2 is newly appointed Gerard Tempest (ex Premier Inns) who is Chief Commercial Officer of Carnival UK Reporting to him are: Carol Marlow (btw a graduate of Soton Uni) who is MD of P& O Cruises Peter Shanks President and MD of Cunard Line Nigel Esdale Sales Director Carnival UK Both Carol Marlow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 25 October, 2012 Share Posted 25 October, 2012 Correct P & O/Princess Cruises was based in Richmond House (not Queens Keep as I incorrectly said) Cunard was based in Mountbatten House Subject to confirmation Seaborn I am pretty sure were also in Mountbatten House but stand to be corrected on that Part of P&O (Storesd purchasing, I think)and Swan Hellenic prior to their sell off to Lord Sterling were based at Town Quay Some of the Ops team had offices above the Mayflower Cruise Terminal Incorrect David Dingle is definately Head Honcho He is Managing Director and CEO of Carnival UK so he definately had the final word on the office build!! His No 2 is newly appointed Gerard Tempest (ex Premier Inns) who is Chief Commercial Officer of Carnival UK Reporting to him are: Carol Marlow (btw a graduate of Soton Uni) who is MD of P& O Cruises Peter Shanks President and MD of Cunard Line Nigel Esdale Sales Director Carnival UK Both Carol Marlow Basically correct but it was Cunard/Seabourn and Corporate ship building that moved to Town Quay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 25 October, 2012 Share Posted 25 October, 2012 STC Pirelli Fords AC Delcos Mullards Vospers BAT had a connection with them all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 25 October, 2012 Share Posted 25 October, 2012 Southern Co-operative only actually occupy one floor of the old North Harbour building. Yeah Southern Co-OP, still a decent company. The more of those the better. North Harbour seemed like a thriving place when I was last down there. Is that still the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 25 October, 2012 Share Posted 25 October, 2012 STC Pirelli Fords AC Delcos Mullards Vospers BAT had a connection with them all Pirelli (Eastleigh) Harris (Bacon factory, Eastleigh) British Rail Engineering (Eastleigh works) T.K. Fielder (Chandlers Ford - almost gone) Rover Group (Oxford) Ford GKN Automotive (Eastleigh) We're a right couple of jinxes between us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 25 October, 2012 Share Posted 25 October, 2012 Great, we pay into the EEC who then pay turkey a regeneration grant who then invite fords on the cheap. We have indirectly laid off our workforce Aren't you just assuming that the EU are involved - I've not seen it mentioned in any reports. Given that Turkey isn't even in the EU it would seem unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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