Plumstead_Saint Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 God he is one annoying pr*tt - just watched Patterson's tackle replay and called it 2 footed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 i just wrote something similar in the match thread....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yate Saint Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 He was right about us having no fight though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumstead_Saint Posted 4 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 4 January, 2009 He was right about us having no fight though. Yes...but I think my blind grandmother could have sussed that out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Yes...but I think my blind grandmother could have sussed that out Does she have a Saints kit and her own boots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 God he is one annoying pr*tt - just watched Patterson's tackle replay and called it 2 footed? Does it matter? He was in the air with his studs up when he hit the manure player. It was a red card, end of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo86 Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Does it matter? He was in the air with his studs up when he hit the manure player. It was a red card, end of. Fact, you cannot make those kinds of tackles anymore its as simple as that. Although he's young Patterson knows the rules! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Does it matter? He was in the air with his studs up when he hit the manure player. It was a red card, end of. Tis true unfortunately, shame the referee forgot the rule where if you foul during a goal scoring opportunity and you're the last man you get a red. Or have I just made that up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Tis true unfortunately, shame the referee forgot the rule where if you foul during a goal scoring opportunity and you're the last man you get a red. Or have I just made that up? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 I am not saying that it wasn't a one footed studs showing tackle, what he did do was connect with the ball before glancing off Vidic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 I am not saying that it wasn't a one footed studs showing tackle, what he did do was connect with the ball before glancing off Vidic. didnt taylor do the same before he snapped eduardos legs in half last year..? that could have been a real threat if vidic had his leg planted on the ground... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Tis true unfortunately, shame the referee forgot the rule where if you foul during a goal scoring opportunity and you're the last man you get a red. Or have I just made that up? DMG didn't go down quickly enough because of that it seemed that there were two other defenders covering (which they weren't when the foul was initially made). Also, he missed the offside for the first goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExSt Peter Saint Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 It was a horrendous challenge 2-footed or not. You would have been livid if it was against a Saints player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 It was a horrendous challenge 2-footed or not. You would have been livid if it was against a Saints player. Was it really that bad??? From over in the Itchen it looked fairly innocuous and didn't think much of it, particularly when the Man Yoo players didn't protest much. I was rather peeved that he looked to be getting a yellow!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 I didnt think it was even a foul, let alone a red card. Yes his studs were up, but there was no intention there, the ball wa sthere to be won, and to be fair to him, he got the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulstersaint Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 God he is one annoying pr*tt - just watched Patterson's tackle replay and called it 2 footed? Perhaps he meant that Paterson's two feet were off the ground - which they were, hence a straight red under current rules. Sir Alex was right; if Paterson had received a yellow for an early challence (on Evans, I think) it might have calmed him down and avoided the later recl#kess two foot studs up red on Vilic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 It was right beneath me and it was a yellow card at the worst. One footed, studs showing, reckless? - maybe. Reckless with excessive force? - not in a month of Sundays. And it was played through the ball first and his foot then glanced off. I didn't see any contact with the United player but that might have been on the other side of the ball from me. It was a very harsh decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 It was right beneath me and it was a yellow card at the worst. One footed, studs showing, reckless? - maybe. Reckless with excessive force? - not in a month of Sundays. And it was played through the ball first and his foot then glanced off. I didn't see any contact with the United player but that might have been on the other side of the ball from me. It was a very harsh decision. As much as I hate to say it when I watched it on the replay I realised there was no other decision than a red card. The lad was in full flight when he caught Vidic, had he had his foot planted his career would probably be over tonight. I don't for one second believe Matt meant any harm whatsoever and was making a genuine attempt for the ball but it was an extremely reckless challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Was it really that bad??? From over in the Itchen it looked fairly innocuous and didn't think much of it, particularly when the Man Yoo players didn't protest much. I was rather peeved that he looked to be getting a yellow!!!!! Afraid it was Um. It was right in front of me and as soon as it happened I thought he's gonna be off. You cannot go in like that with studs raised. It was a definite red unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 As much as I hate to say it when I watched it on the replay I realised there was no other decision than a red card. The lad was in full flight when he caught Vidic, had he had his foot planted his career would probably be over tonight. I don't for one second believe Matt meant any harm whatsoever and was making a genuine attempt for the ball but it was an extremely reckless challenge. I agree that it was a lunge, but viewed in real time and not slow-motion I don't think that there was enough momentum in his motion to carry through and do any serious harm to the other player, and there was a ball between them that Patterson certainly got to first. Studs showing, one footed, slightly reckless at the time I considered it a yellow at worst. Maybe it looked worse in slow-motion? I'll have another look at it tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Afraid it was Um. It was right in front of me and as soon as it happened I thought he's gonna be off. You cannot go in like that with studs raised. It was a definite red unfortunately. Fair do's then. From where we were it just looked like he slid in, as attackers try to do when they're closing down the player, and just clipped him a bit late. I was surprised as there didn't seem to be any uproar from the Man Yoo players and also it was the first time in ages that our own players got animated and in the ref's face when the red card was shown. Probaby should be filed under the over exuberant as opposed to the reckless tackles file then??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 I agree that it was a lunge, but viewed in real time and not slow-motion I don't think that there was enough momentum in his motion to carry through and do any serious harm to the other player, and there was a ball between them that Patterson certainly got to first. Studs showing, one footed, slightly reckless at the time I considered it a yellow at worst. Maybe it looked worse in slow-motion? I'll have another look at it tonight. if vidic did that to paterson..you would have wanted a red...aftr seeing it again..you would have probably want to sue him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Was it really that bad??? From over in the Itchen it looked fairly innocuous and didn't think much of it, particularly when the Man Yoo players didn't protest much. I was rather peeved that he looked to be getting a yellow!!!!! Yes UP it was a red, no question about it. Yes he got the ball first (thankfully). I don't think it was a malicious nasty challenge but a red it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mower Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Stuff Mcmanaman, Steve Claridge is a bigger ****!! Was anybody listening to 5 Live on Friday evening? Claridge completely slated the Dell, claiming the ground had no charm and anybody who remembers the place fondly (including Saints fans) are fooling themselves. Despite being a skate w@nker, I've tolerated Claridges pathetic "punditory" on 5 Live for too long. Complete brainless ***t in my opinion. Nothing decent to offer yet the BBC keep squandering my licence fee on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 if vidic did that to paterson..you would have wanted a red...aftr seeing it again..you would have probably want to sue him With Riley in charge I would only expect a yellow for Vidic but I stand by my assertion that there was not enough momentum in his challenge to do any serious damage, and Vidic had a clear view of what was coming so it was not as dangerous as a tackle from behind or from the side. Nobody in our part of the stand thought that it warranted a red card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 Stuff Mcmanaman, Steve Claridge is a bigger ****!! Was anybody listening to 5 Live on Friday evening? Claridge completely slated the Dell, claiming the ground had no charm and anybody who remembers the place fondly (including Saints fans) are fooling themselves. Despite being a skate w@nker, I've tolerated Claridges pathetic "punditory" on 5 Live for too long. Complete brainless ***t in my opinion. Nothing decent to offer yet the BBC keep squandering my licence fee on him. WTF? I listened to Steve Claridge on Five Live and he waxed lyrical about Saints and the Dell - about how professional the club was, how they "knew how to treat you". He was full of praise for Saints, as he always is, despite what some people think. I have no idea who or what you were listening to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mower Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 WTF? I listened to Steve Claridge on Five Live and he waxed lyrical about Saints and the Dell - about how professional the club was, how they "knew how to treat you". He was full of praise for Saints, as he always is, despite what some people think. I have no idea who or what you were listening to. WTF: I heard Claridge go back on what he'd originally said, but believe it or not he did slate the Dell and claimed that Saints fans who'd prefer the Dell to SMS have false memories of those times. Just because you didn't hear it, it doesn't mean it wasn't said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintstr1 Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 I Really didn't rate Mike Riley today , !st goal offside , 2nd not a penalty but the one thing he got right was that Pattersons challenge was a RED card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Codger Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 I guess I'm alone in thinking he went for the ball, he won the ball and it should never even have been a free kick ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southamptonfclegend Posted 4 January, 2009 Share Posted 4 January, 2009 I guess I'm alone in thinking he went for the ball, he won the ball and it should never even have been a free kick ... i agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 5 January, 2009 Share Posted 5 January, 2009 I thought macca summed it up brilliantly. It was a sending off blatently, we were awful and blythe will give blackburn a much better game. Ashamed to be a saints fan, no passion nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumstead_Saint Posted 5 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 5 January, 2009 I thought macca summed it up brilliantly. You must be a bit thick then mate - he clearly described it as a 2 footed tackle, going in with both feet. Try watching the replays and you will see that was a lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 5 January, 2009 Share Posted 5 January, 2009 Haven't seen the incident yet but having been sent off a few times myself...if he challenged for the ball with his studs showing he was asking for a red, you just can't do that anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSaint75 Posted 5 January, 2009 Share Posted 5 January, 2009 I thought it could have been a red from the Itchen, jumping in from 4" away studs up is a red......but due to making contact with the ball and only slight contact with the player it could have got a yellow Ref's do not care if a game finishes with 22 players at full time and I don't think any fan wants to see an uneven contest, as Fergie said if he was dealt with properly early on that challenge may not have happened! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 5 January, 2009 Share Posted 5 January, 2009 Having watched the game on Setanta, where they replayed it a million times, i can assure anybody it was a straight red. There is no ambiguity, no grey areas, no room for interpretation of the rules etc etc...... It was a red card offence. This doesn't however mean riley isn't a ***t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 5 January, 2009 Share Posted 5 January, 2009 Does it matter? He was in the air with his studs up when he hit the manure player. It was a red card, end of. It was one footed, studs up and dangerous. Inexperience will send us down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 5 January, 2009 Share Posted 5 January, 2009 Having watched the game on Setanta, where they replayed it a million times, i can assure anybody it was a straight red. There is no ambiguity, no grey areas, no room for interpretation of the rules etc etc...... It was a red card offence. This doesn't however mean riley isn't a ***t It looks far worse on television in slo-mo than it did when I saw it yesterday live and in real-time. I've watched it again and I stand by my original opinion that it was a yellow card at worst. Patterson turned his foot and lower leg away at the last moment and his lunge ended at the moment he made contact with Vidic after clearly playing the ball first. It was 'reckless' but not 'reckless with excessive force'. I agree with you about Riley and he clearly needs to get his eyes tested if he thought that he saw McGoldrick hit the ball with this arm and not the back of his shoulder and head. Ask yourself these questions: Would Vidic have been sent off if the roles were reversed? - probably not. Would Patterson have been sent of if it hadn't been Riley? - possibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 5 January, 2009 Share Posted 5 January, 2009 I didnt think it was even a foul, let alone a red card. Yes his studs were up, but there was no intention there, the ball wa sthere to be won, and to be fair to him, he got the ball. You gotta be joking. That would have caused a riot in most sunday pub league football, where terrible tackles are the norm. Patterson may have done it in a second of over-exuberance, but that isn't the point - it was a really bad challenge and deserved red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draino76 Posted 5 January, 2009 Share Posted 5 January, 2009 I have watched it 3 times and still cannot see how it was a foul. Riley ruined the game for everybody right then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 5 January, 2009 Share Posted 5 January, 2009 Why cant refs use the yellow card give the kid a proper hairdryer style rant & explain that any other real foul will result in a 2nd yellow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 5 January, 2009 Share Posted 5 January, 2009 Why cant refs use the yellow card give the kid a proper hairdryer style rant & explain that any other real foul will result in a 2nd yellow called assesors in the stands, the biggest factor in ruining the modern game, refs cannot apply common sense anymore because they will be marked badly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 5 January, 2009 Share Posted 5 January, 2009 called assesors in the stands' date=' the biggest factor in ruining the modern game, refs cannot apply common sense anymore because they will be marked badly[/quote'] how is it ruining the modern game..it was a fecking nasty challenge... the handball was a poor decision..not the red... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 5 January, 2009 Share Posted 5 January, 2009 how is it ruining the modern game..it was a fecking nasty challenge... the handball was a poor decision..not the red... agreed about that challenge but i was talking about the game in this country in general, yellow cards are handed out like confetti and players end up getting sent of for 2 petty fouls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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